Originally by: Eternal Error

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It's pretty stupid to say... just bout anything on a social networking site; like arvald said more and more people are checking them. But, since it is a fish n chips shop.... it doesn't really matter.

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Originally by: Tishlin Veredici

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CONCORD is like the UN. Their entire job is to do nothing until its too late.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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saying i hated the place and it was a shithole
My boss then somehow found this and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

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Originally by: Akita T

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Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Happened here at HP too. Someone posted a blog on his myspace about hating this place and a mole, I guess you could say, provided the link to management. Angry employee went bye bye.

We also found the myspace page for another employee, a rather quiet one, and his page left us scared which led us to think that maybe companies should start viewing social networking sights so you don't end up with some psycho working for you.

On the point though not only does it give the business a bad rep but it also demoralizes fellow employees which should only be left to managers to do that. One bad attitude can create many bad attitudes which decreases productivity which can in turn decrease sales so to keep revenue up you have to pull a few weeds and keep the garden clean.

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Happened here at HP too. Someone posted a blog on his myspace about hating this place and a mole, I guess you could say, provided the link to management. Angry employee went bye bye.

We also found the myspace page for another employee, a rather quiet one, and his page left us scared which led us to think that maybe companies should start viewing social networking sights so you don't end up with some psycho working for you.

On the point though not only does it give the business a bad rep but it also demoralizes fellow employees which should only be left to managers to do that. One bad attitude can create many bad attitudes which decreases productivity which can in turn decrease sales so to keep revenue up you have to pull a few weeds and keep the garden clean.

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How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?

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Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 20:36:04

Originally by: 7shining7one7

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he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?

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Let's just say I used to run my bussiness, and I have plenty of RL friends who run their own bussinesses.
Would any of my employees or my friend's employees ever said anything even remotely equivalent to "that place sucks, it's a shithole" anywhere even remotely public using any form of traceable indentification, they'd be fired INSTANTLY, and they should be praying that all that will happen to them is JUST to get fired.
So, no, he gets absolutely zero sympathy, unless that place REALLY was a shithole (compared to similar establishments in the area, that is, not compared to whatever high standards he might have in his head), and even then, he only gets the "let this be a lesson to you on when and where to open your big mouth" kind of sympathy.

If it REALLY was such a shithole, he would have better quit his job before he got fired.
If he gets even remotely angry for getting fired, then it wasn't really that big of a shithole, now was it ?
Or maybe he's just incapable of finding any work somewhere better ? I don't know... and I really couldn't care less.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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How very national socialist of you. Have you ever considered what people not of the same mind possibly could bring to a workplace if they weren't whipped into conformity?

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Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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well maybe that's why you _used_ to run a business

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Quote:

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daium you got some attitude.. especially in a thread started about a guy that just lost his job

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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well maybe that's why you _used_ to run a business

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Maybe I just retired, how about that for a change ?
Or how about the fact nobody who ever worked for me ever got a reason to SAY it would be a shithole ?
Or what about the fact I actually TOLD one of my first employers that the place is a shithole (of course NOT using the word "shithole" for starters), but I also explained to him why exactly that is and what I would do to improve it, and instead of getting fired I got promoted ? Then eventually quite myself because it never got better and started my own thing ?

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daium you got some attitude.. especially in a thread started about a guy that just lost his job

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And I'm supposed to do what ?
Pat him on the back, tell him that he did absolutely nothing wrong, and confort him ?
In other words, I should be lying through my teeth, or shut my mouth instead ?
No thanks. Not my style.

He got fired from a (self-confessed) shitty job in a (publically stated) shitty place due to his (arguably shitty) unwatched mouth.
Why should I offer him any comfort for that ?

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.

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Teamplayer? Are you not a capitalist? There's no team, only me, me and me.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Being a team player and being a dragger are 2 different things I'm afraid.

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Teamplayer? Are you not a capitalist? There's no team, only me, me and me.

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And that mentality would get you knocked off my list.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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Originally by: Akita T

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Or what about the fact I actually TOLD one of my first employers that the place is a shithole (of course NOT using the word "shithole" for starters), but I also explained to him why exactly that is and what I would do to improve it, and instead of getting fired I got promoted ?

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ahahahahaahahaha... ahahaha.. the irony is strong in this one!

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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as much as i disagree with dietrich at times, i'm going to agree with him on this one. allthough, there is a very fine line between being a teamplayer and a self righteous manipulative persecutor, maybe even for your own amusement.. and sometimes the line gets a little blurry at times for some.

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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hehe you don't get it the irony i take it, let me spell it out for you then..
1. you get promoted on the basis of your boss accepting constructive critisism..
2. then you quit the job and make your own business where you turn into a nasi employeer who runs it with meglomaniacal tendencies.
3. fast forward, this post, this guy looses his job.. because he in a private venue probably in good humor or whatever, said where he worked was a shithole.. he didn't say it to his employer he said it to a friend, had he wanted to talk to his employeer about it he would probably also say well this is how we can do it better..

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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as much as i disagree with dietrich at times, i'm going to agree with him on this one. allthough, there is a very fine line between being a teamplayer and a self righteous manipulative persecutor, maybe even for your own amusement.. and sometimes the line gets a little blurry at times for some.

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Doesn't being self-righteous and manipulative suggest a boss on a power trip more than a team player? Last time I checked, being a team player involved getting along with other people, and that doesn't sound like a good way to do it.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Doesn't being self-righteous and manipulative suggest a boss on a power trip more than a team player? Last time I checked, being a team player involved getting along with other people, and that doesn't sound like a good way to do it.

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Self righteousness and manipulative can come in employee form too, ESPECIALLY employee form that want's to move up in the chain and doesn't have an issue with crushing a few ants along the way.

We also don't know many factors of the OP being fired. Was the manager horrible? Fellow Employees? Did he not like his position? Or maybe he's a habitual offender and this was the straw on the camels back? Were there conflicts (well I'm thinking that's a big duh)? All we have is a single piece to a very big puzzle.

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Doesn't being self-righteous and manipulative suggest a boss on a power trip more than a team player? Last time I checked, being a team player involved getting along with other people, and that doesn't sound like a good way to do it.

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Self righteousness and manipulative can come in employee form too, ESPECIALLY employee form that want's to move up in the chain and doesn't have an issue with crushing a few ants along the way.

We also don't know many factors of the OP being fired. Was the manager horrible? Fellow Employees? Did he not like his position? Or maybe he's a habitual offender and this was the straw on the camels back? Were there conflicts (well I'm thinking that's a big duh)? All we have is a single piece to a very big puzzle.

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yeah that's what i was referring to dietrich.

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Weird...maybe I've just been insulated from this in Software Development, but I've never been in a situation where a tactic like that could really work. Then again, the CTO of the company keeps good records of everyone's activities so if someone wanted to lie/manipulate him in order to advance his own agenda he'd have to hack into the CTO's computer and hack the server/network/activity logs. If he's willing to do that, then damn, nothing's going to stop him from taking my job.

The biggest problem I've experience working in a software development team is the "cowboy coder," mentality where people don't want to share responsibility just because coding on their own is easier. It usually bites them in the arse pretty quickly though.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Tarminic

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Weird...maybe I've just been insulated from this in Software Development, but I've never been in a situation where a tactic like that could really work. Then again, the CTO of the company keeps good records of everyone's activities so if someone wanted to lie/manipulate him in order to advance his own agenda he'd have to hack into the CTO's computer and hack the server/network/activity logs. If he's willing to do that, then damn, nothing's going to stop him from taking my job.

The biggest problem I've experience working in a software development team is the "cowboy coder," mentality where people don't want to share responsibility just because coding on their own is easier. It usually bites them in the arse pretty quickly though.

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Used to run rampant when I first started here. When I made management there were two of us per shift. My co-manager took every oppurtunity to try to stab me in the back and make himself look better but our crew was always on my side.
One of my employees was also a Word and Excel genius and would create spreadsheets and labels only to have a manager on the weekday day shift steal his ideas and claim them as her own in which I sent many complaints on that. That same day shift manager also tried to run my shift as well which I was not fond of.

So in all I've learned to watch my back but that also doesn't mean to trust no one. My crew as a whole was able to pump out more data with fewer people/hours than any other 2 shifts combined because we took teamplay to a whole other level.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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This is why I will never, NEVER get a myspace account.

Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept seperate? Its not like these individuals are posting the blogs while at work or talking about how bad the company is while on the clock.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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This is why I will never, NEVER get a myspace account.

Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept seperate? Its not like these individuals are posting the blogs while at work or talking about how bad the company is while on the clock.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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This is why I will never, NEVER get a myspace account.

Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept separate? Its not like these individuals are posting the blogs while at work or talking about how bad the company is while on the clock.

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Originally by: Ademaro Imre

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Edited by: Ademaro Imre on 11/08/2008 21:57:55

Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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An an employer, you wouldn't be getting fired. It would have been immediate.

Consider yourself lucky that your employer will not sue you for libel. I would have, if the social networking site involved any potential customer base, and in such posts you could be identified as an employee.

You got the better end of the deal. Be happy about it.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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So if someone complains that they had a bad day at work and mentions which company they work for their considered libel and thus may be terminated? If thats the case we would be all out of work as its a sure thing everyone of us has had a crap day at work one day and told their friend/spouce/family/insert third party label here about it.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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This is why I will never, NEVER get a myspace account.

Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept seperate? Its not like these individuals are posting the blogs while at work or talking about how bad the company is while on the clock.

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Well actually in the case that I know he did post it while at work. We used myspace in the building to socialize in between breaks.

Of course in the case I know of the guy was a repeat offender too that had to be spoken to on many occasions. He was also the manager for weekday swing so his attitude could greatly affect those working under him.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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So if someone complains that they had a bad day at work and mentions which company they work for their considered libel and thus may be terminated? If thats the case we would be all out of work as its a sure thing everyone of us has had a crap day at work one day and told their friend/spouce/family/insert third party label here about it.

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But did you post it on a giant billboard?

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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So if someone complains that they had a bad day at work and mentions which company they work for their considered libel and thus may be terminated? If thats the case we would be all out of work as its a sure thing everyone of us has had a crap day at work one day and told their friend/spouce/family/insert third party label here about it.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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In that instance I would agree with you, but if the individual is talking about his day while not on the property of the work place you cant expect them to keep quiet.

If its trade secrets its one thing but if its just talking about their day then come on, considering firing someone over them talking about there day is more damaging to the company than to the individual who may be terminated.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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You can even get a midget with a camera to sit on the floorboard.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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I just got off of work at mcdonalds and I swear I hate my manager. He only got to his position by sleeping with the the regional manager! God why cant people make up their minds over what they want on their @#$^% big mac!

If anything you would tell the poster to take a chill pill and the next day enjoy a big mac regardless if you read this on a bill board or community forum.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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In that instance I would agree with you, but if the individual is talking about his day while not on the property of the work place you cant expect them to keep quiet.

If its trade secrets its one thing but if its just talking about their day then come on, considering firing someone over them talking about there day is more damaging to the company than to the individual who may be terminated.

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But again we do not know how much was said or what prior events have transpired here.

We don't know if he was a good employee or bad. What is his attendance and attitude like at work?
We don't know if other events have taken place. Has he been talked to? Has he been written up? Or does he and his manager just not get along?

As a manager you have to make these kinds of calls and in small business's it can mean a huge difference in profit. Saying you had a bad day is one thing. Saying your job is shit and writing a blog about it is another. People will read it and say 'I don't want to go eat there'. That company now loses money (which in turn may eventually lead to being laid off anyways).

As a company your goal is to attract customers. As you gain more customers you make more profit. More profit allows you to expand.

As an employee your a part of that process. Your actions voice an opinion in the reaction of the customer. If you do poorly, so will your business.

I would also like to point out that the food industry is a fast, stressful, and high action business and not made for everyone.

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Im not saying I dont agree that its the employeers duty to do the things other people dont want to do, but honestly your power as an employeer stops at the property line of your buisness unless otherwise agreed to by a contract.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Im not saying I dont agree that its the employeers duty to do the things other people dont want to do, but honestly your power as an employeer stops at the property line of your buisness unless otherwise agreed to by a contract.

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So you're saying I could go on national TV and state my employer and his bussiness is a piece of crap and expect NOT to get fired ?

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: Jacob Mei

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Im not saying I dont agree that its the employeers duty to do the things other people dont want to do, but honestly your power as an employeer stops at the property line of your buisness unless otherwise agreed to by a contract.

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So you're saying I could go on national TV and state my employer and his bussiness is a piece of crap and expect NOT to get fired ?

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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stating some extreme case that nobody would obviously do, to justify stiffling peoples rights to be themselves and be a little disgruntled at times but still doing their job.. as you did earlier aswell.. and like when you did it earlier in this thread.. the extreme case wasn't even remotely related..

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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stating some extreme case that nobody would obviously do, to justify stiffling peoples rights to be themselves and be a little disgruntled at times but still doing their job.. as you did earlier aswell.. and like when you did it earlier in this thread.. the extreme case wasn't even remotely related..

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Ok, let's go your way then... who are you to stiffle employer's rights to pick who they allow to be their employees ?
If an employee is creating problems for the company (WHATEVER those problems might be), you, as the employer, have every right to terminate their employment.
Yes, it was an extreme case, just to show that no, your responsabilities as an employee do NOT end when your shift ends and you leave the premises.

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Originally by: Akita T

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You're assuming here that the OP never did anything else to bother their employer, and you assume that I don't assume he already did something else before.
Somebody who's posting "the place I work at is a shithole" on a social networking site IS NOT a happy and cooperative employee to begin with.
And from the tone of the OP, it doesn't even remotely sound he was joking about it, nor that he regrets making that comment (other than the fact it lead to his firing).
All of the above are already settled BEFORE I made the "he should have been fired" statement.
Also, note that I said "IF any of my employees or my friend's employees WOULD have said something like that, they would instantly get fired", since, obviously, I make the assumption (from personal experience) that their statement would have been intentionally slanderous, given the fact NONE of the said workplaces are even remotely deserving of the "shithole" apelative, and the fact they HAD to state that somewhere publically means they have no place in that job anymore.

Is that a bit clearer now ?

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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no i'm speaking in general...
and i respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you said, including your assumptions..
assumptions is the mother of all failures.. heard that before?

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 12/08/2008 00:07:12

Originally by: 7shining7one7

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no i'm speaking in general...
and i respectfully disagree with pretty much everything you said, including your assumptions..
assumptions is the mother of all failures.. heard that before?

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Oh, really ? And going by the OP's posting history, would you say he has been a model employee, highly intelligent and always curteous ?
One can be pretty spot-on with a lot of assumptions, and in this particular case, given the circumstances, without solid proof to the contrary, I have no reason to doubt any of those assumptions.

Plus, speaking in general is much worse than making assumptions.

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Originally by: pwnedgato

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What if someone is just a grumpy bastard who is never happy with anything? I know I end up loathing any job I am in for more than a few months, but that is because I get very bored with any kind of routine. (with very few exceptions)

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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your tools for rectifying a disagreement is based on the assumption that he is only out to slander, so you propose that rather to seek to remedy the situation and have one of those "hey what's up, hows it going, noticing that it seemed like you've been having a hard time, anything we can do for you, it don't matter what you said no harm no foult, let's just take it from here and see how we can work this out.. " conversations, you just want to fire someone on an assumption.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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your tools for rectifying a disagreement is based on the assumption that he is only out to slander, so you propose that rather to seek to remedy the situation and have one of those "hey what's up, hows it going, noticing that it seemed like you've been having a hard time, anything we can do for you, it don't matter what you said no harm no foult, let's just take it from here and see how we can work this out.. " conversations, you just want to fire someone on an assumption.

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It doesn't matter what possesed him to post that where he posted.
He didn't think of it as something that could be held against him, because, well, he didn't THINK at all. He just spewed his anger the first place he managed to, and you can bet this was not the only occasion he complained about his workplace.
Management thought of it as damaging enough. He got fired. Rightfully so.

Let me repeat that.
People who feel like they have the RIGHT to brand their workplace "a shithole" in a public place... they DON'T have the "right" to work there anymore.
It's that simple.

Now, the fact the OP doesn't recognize a social networking site as such "a public place", or the fact he THINKS he can say anything there without consequences... that's only is his own damned fault.

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Originally by: Akita T

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It doesn't matter what possesed him to post that where he posted.
He didn't think of it as something that could be held against him, because, well, he didn't THINK at all. He just spewed his anger the first place he managed to, and you can bet this was not the only occasion he complained about his workplace.
Management thought of it as damaging enough. He got fired. Rightfully so.

Let me repeat that.
People who feel like they have the RIGHT to brand their workplace "a shithole" in a public place... they DON'T have the "right" to work there anymore.
It's that simple.

Now, the fact the OP doesn't recognize a social networking site as such "a public place", or the fact he THINKS he can say anything there without consequences... that's only is his own damned fault.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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Originally by: Cecil Montague

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They should change that warning on entering low sec to:

"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Does the employer know for a fact its the actual person said to having said that who said it? Are they the internets secret police now all of a sudden?

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Does the employer know for a fact its the actual person said to having said that who said it? Are they the internets secret police now all of a sudden?

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 12/08/2008 00:17:33

Originally by: 7shining7one7

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your tools for rectifying a disagreement is based on the assumption that he is only out to slander, so you propose that rather to seek to remedy the situation and have one of those "hey what's up, hows it going, noticing that it seemed like you've been having a hard time, anything we can do for you, it don't matter what you said no harm no foult, let's just take it from here and see how we can work this out.. " conversations, you just want to fire someone on an assumption.

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It doesn't matter what possesed him to post that where he posted.
He didn't think of it as something that could be held against him, because, well, he didn't THINK at all. He just spewed his anger the first place he managed to, and you can bet this was not the only occasion he complained about his workplace.
Management thought of it as damaging enough. He got fired. Rightfully so.

Let me repeat that.
People who feel like they have the RIGHT to brand their workplace "a shithole" in a public place... they DON'T have the "right" to work there anymore.
It's that simple.

Now, the fact the OP doesn't recognize a social networking site as such "a public place", or the fact he THINKS he can say anything there without consequences... that's only is his own damned fault.

Originally by: Conwright

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I know martin and aside from the fact he is scottish, he is actually a really nice guy who gets along with everybody. Think before you post.

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You know, some people like to coddle their friends when they do something stupid, tell them it's allright and such.
I prefer to tell people they were morons when they were, even if they're good friends. No, cancel that, ESPECIALLY if they're good friends.
Some can't take it, too bad for them. I wouldn't want to be friends with them anyway.

In this particular case, HE acted in a stupid manner.
The way he posted it and what I can see posted in the recent past don't strike me as particularly bright either.
He might have a "dumb spell", he might have been high, he might have been angry as hell, who knows, many possible mitigating circumstances.
That still doesn't change the fact he did something dumb and he's now paying for it.

Or maybe, just maybe, if he is an "ok guy", the job there drove him to where he's now, and he's better off without it.
Either way... ah, whatever.

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Originally by: Cecil Montague

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They should change that warning on entering low sec to:

"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."

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Originally by: Conwright

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Originally by: Akita T

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You know, some people like to coddle their friends when they do something stupid, tell them it's allright and such.
I prefer to tell people they were morons when they were, even if they're good friends. No, cancel that, ESPECIALLY if they're good friends.
Some can't take it, too bad for them. I wouldn't want to be friends with them anyway.

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If that's your views on how you treat people, I'm guessing you don't have many friends.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: Conwright

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Originally by: Akita T

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You know, some people like to coddle their friends when they do something stupid, tell them it's allright and such.
I prefer to tell people they were morons when they were, even if they're good friends. No, cancel that, ESPECIALLY if they're good friends.
Some can't take it, too bad for them. I wouldn't want to be friends with them anyway.

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If that's your views on how you treat people, I'm guessing you don't have many friends.

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OR, maybe I have loads of friends who don't act stupid too often, and when they do, they can take the criticism knowing full well they did something stupid.
Or maybe it's just a local city/county/region thing. You know, prefering honesty rather than brown-nosing ?

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Originally by: Cecil Montague

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They should change that warning on entering low sec to:

"Go read Crime and Punishment for a few days then come back."

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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then why don't you accept the criticism of the people posting here to you right now? you were obviously wrong in all your assumptions.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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then why don't you accept the criticism of the people posting here to you right now? you were obviously wrong in all your assumptions.

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And what assumption or opinion would that be ?

That he's "an ok guy" told by somebody who knows him a bit better ?
He can still act stupid, and I covered that part.

That this was most likely not the first time he complained ?
Nobody even came close to disproving that.

That somebody who claims "my job is a shithole" should be allowed to keep their job ?
Not that either.

So, pray, do tell, what exactly was I "proven" wrong about ?

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Originally by: Akita T

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Eventually all we talked about in this thread is mere theorycrafting, and I might be completely wrong in this PARTICULAR case.
I'd like to see the OP's input on this, not of his acquaintaces.

The bottom line comes to this however : if you, as en employee of a company, make a public statement (even if at the time you may NOT realize it's a public statement) calling your company (no matter how large or small) a (quote) "shithole", and that public statement is seen (no matter how or why) by one of your bosses, recognizing you... would you be surprised if you got fired ?
The OP seems to be surprised, for some strange reason.

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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so i respectfully disagree with your viewpoints and so we have a wonderful disagreement here

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Originally by: Akita T

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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so i respectfully disagree with your viewpoints and so we have a wonderful disagreement here

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So, is it time to break out the peace pipe and dance naked around the fire yet ?

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Does the employer know for a fact its the actual person said to having said that who said it? Are they the internets secret police now all of a sudden?

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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari

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F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said

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Originally by: Chribba

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Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows

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Originally by: 7shining7one7

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Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 11/08/2008 20:28:31

Originally by: Akita T

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Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.

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ok akita first of, this wasn't a streamlined mega corporation, this was a fish and chip shop. so first off.. its ridiculous.. allright.. we got that straight so far.. now..

secondly the guy is an adult and i'm pretty sure he doesn't need people like you to pounce on him with your "i told you so", "learn your lesson" and.. "you are stupid for doing so insinuations.." especially in the circumstances this happened.. which.. were ridiculous.

obviously the guy wouldn't say it like that if he was interviewed cause then he would know his boss would definately fire him since he and many others would 100% hear about it, it's ok to be disgruntled sometimes to do otherwise is just throw everything into two different categories and then deny all other spectrums of human emotion.. but he didn't so you can't even compare that.. its ridiculous... he said it in what he thought was a private venue.. it's like you being drunk at a party and blurting out how much you f'ing hate your work sometimes, coming on the job the following monday having your boss fire you cause someone ratted you out..

furthermore.. he just lost his job, how about a bit of curteousy, or is that a foreign tongue to you?

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Originally by: George Petsch

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Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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Originally by: Conwright

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I know martin and aside from the fact he is scottish, he is actually a really nice guy who gets along with everybody.

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Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40


Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.

My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

Heres the climax

I work in a fish and chip shop.

Is this ******ed or what?

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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Any complaints can be directed towards our Music Director

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Quote:

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Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept seperate?

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Wow immy scored - Xorus

Originally by: Spaztick

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You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.

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Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest

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I'm looking for a job.

...On these forums >.> <.<

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Originally by: Spaztick

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You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 12/08/2008 00:51:36

Originally by: Martin Mckenna

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saying i hated the place and it was a shithole
My boss then somehow found this and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet

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Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.

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late-edit from a much later post


Eventually all we talked about in this thread is mere theorycrafting, and I might be completely wrong in this PARTICULAR case.
I'd like to see the OP's input on this, not of his acquaintaces.

The bottom line comes to this however : if you, as en employee of a company, make a public statement (even if at the time you may NOT realize it's a public statement) calling your company (no matter how large or small) a (quote) "shithole", and that public statement is seen (no matter how or why) by one of your bosses, recognizing you... would you be surprised if you got fired ?
The OP seems to be surprised, for some strange reason.

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Originally by: F'nog

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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Does the employer know for a fact its the actual person said to having said that who said it? Are they the internets secret police now all of a sudden?

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Given the number of people who use their real name, or something close enough, on social networking sites, I'd say this is not important.

And if you work at a unique business with only one location and a limited number of employees, you don't even have to use your real name for it be a problem.

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Originally by: Cosy

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plz give us the name or the link and lets make a little google bomb
we can make several wordpress blog about that and crosslink them and after that send to your ex-boss a link :D

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Originally by: Martin

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Well considering this is a private page that only her friends can visit then its kinda diffrant than going on national TV and saying it.

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Originally by: Wendat

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So if I only find out where you work then some cleverly placed slander should get you fired?

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Originally by: Ademaro Imre

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This gets you fired also:

Video shows Burger King employee bathing in sink

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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That's one of the reasons why I don't dare touch fast food places. I've heard way too many horror stories locally to ever want to trust those places. Granted it can happen anywhere but the likelyhood of a fast food place is generally higher.

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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich

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Originally by: Cosy

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plz give us the name or the link and lets make a little google bomb
we can make several wordpress blog about that and crosslink them and after that send to your ex-boss a link :D

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Yeah, that'll help his future job searching.

Originally by: Martin

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Well considering this is a private page that only her friends can visit then its kinda diffrant than going on national TV and saying it.

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What part of social networking site do we not get? It sounds to me like he made it public to anyone which is how the boss got a hold of it. And if it was private then he doesn't have very good friends.

Originally by: Wendat

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So if I only find out where you work then some cleverly placed slander should get you fired?

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I would be able to prove that it wasn't me that wrote it. Furthermore, if we find where the message came from you could very well see this (can't find a decent example of that law)

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Originally by: Wendat Huron

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You can't be sure your proof would fly with the employer though can you, being right doesn't always mean you win. Especially if neither truly are computer wizzes. Of course I'd be posting from a public location as to take no fallout myself.

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Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 23:46:37

Originally by: 7shining7one7

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stating some extreme case that nobody would obviously do, to justify stiffling peoples rights to be themselves and be a little disgruntled at times but still doing their job.. as you did earlier aswell.. and like when you did it earlier in this thread.. the extreme case wasn't even remotely related..

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Ok, let's go your way then... who are you to stiffle employer's rights to pick who they allow to be their employees ?
If an employee is creating problems for the company (WHATEVER those problems might be), you, as the employer, have every right to terminate their employment.
Yes, it was an extreme case, just to show that no, your responsabilities as an employee do NOT end when your shift ends and you leave the premises.

Yes, as an employee, you might have every right to criticize your employer. Just don't expect to still have a job if you do it in a manner that might damage the company's reputation or bottom line (not that much of a difference there).

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Originally by: nahtoh

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So lets turn it around then akita do you think that someone who mocks there direct boss during a interview should hired?

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