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Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:24:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40
Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.
My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Heres the climax
I work in a fish and chip shop.
Is this ******ed or what?
If you're getting sacked, **** it, name and shame them....and then contact these guys and **** them again!
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Voltain
BEER Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Conwright
I know martin and aside from the fact he is scottish, he is actually a really nice guy who gets along with everybody.
Oh dear, forget my last post. There are no food standards in Scotland.
Deep fried Mars bars, say no more.
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Cosy
Gallente
Porandor
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Posted - 2008.08.12 11:31:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 11/08/2008 19:57:40
Ok so basicaly im getting fired from my work because i posted a comment on someone else's social networking page saying i hated the place and it was a shithole.
My boss then somehow found this (dont ****ing ask i think someone gave him a link) and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Heres the climax
I work in a fish and chip shop.
Is this ******ed or what?
plz give us the name or the link and lets make a little google bomb
we can make several wordpress blog about that and crosslink them and after that send to your ex-boss a link :D
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
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Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:09:00 -
[94]
My father was fired for updating his resume on Monster.com.
Was a shit job anyway.
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Delvardious Kaesos
Caldari
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:33:00 -
[95]
It's a freakin fish and chips store. Those jobs come and go like bad issues of crabs. Being fired from that job isn't a big deal, however I would look at the lesson learned here which is don't flap your gums about how bad your job is, especially if you have people from your work who can read them. The only thing I'd worry about is what your next employer says when he asks you why you got fired.
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Zephyr Rengate
dearg doom
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:33:00 -
[96]
Learn from these forums, people dont smack there alliance members on there mains.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:44:00 -
[97]
Quote:
Whatever happened work and a persons personal life being kept seperate?
This.
It's where the internets is a dodgy area, as it blurs the line.
A comment on someone elses page on a social networking site is the equivalent of giving a friend your opinion on where you work. This I would consider your private life, it's out of work time, as long as you don't bring that attitude into work with you.
That's one of the flaws of employers checking these sites to my mind, is that it doesn't take into account that no one is one person - everyone has roles and behaves differently to varying degrees in different circumstances. Judging that person based on their interwebs persona - which most people use as a role to let off steam - seems like a bad idea to me. Unless it's criminal, there's really nothing to suggest that anything on that page (and I mean in general) would make them any more or less of a good worker.
Further, I'd say there's a small minority of people who are actually happy with their jobs so it's inevitable that in someones private life/off-work hours some negative comments are going to be made.
However - as much as it is used and resembles your private life - or some kind of virtual projection of a private mental space - it is public. Which is where the other side of the arguement comes in. And as much as I think it gives a very flawed perception of a person to judge them (or their words) on a blog/social networking page, I can see why employers would - particularly as they may feel your work role is being who you think they want you to be, which tells them nothing about you as a person.
So you have an element of your private life entering the public domain. And based on what the OP said - I can understand him saying it, but I can also understand why his boss would want to fire him on the basis of it. Though in one sense I see it as none of the employers business - on the other hand, it's exactly his business.
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:50:00 -
[98]
Shouldn't you all be working right now? 
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:53:00 -
[99]
I'm looking for a job.
...On these forums >.> <.<
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.12 12:56:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
I'm looking for a job.
...On these forums >.> <.<
What are you, a professional online stalker? 
Originally by: Spaztick
You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.12 13:10:00 -
[101]
yes 
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Martin Mckenna
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.08.12 13:20:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 12/08/2008 00:51:36
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
saying i hated the place and it was a shithole
My boss then somehow found this and apparently hes going to fire me becuase im giving the company bad press on the internet
Would you have said that to one of the customers, said that on the local TV station or printed that in the local newspaper, you think it would have been any different ?
Lesson : KNOW what consequences your statements WILL have.
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late-edit from a much later post
Eventually all we talked about in this thread is mere theorycrafting, and I might be completely wrong in this PARTICULAR case.
I'd like to see the OP's input on this, not of his acquaintaces.
The bottom line comes to this however : if you, as en employee of a company, make a public statement (even if at the time you may NOT realize it's a public statement) calling your company (no matter how large or small) a (quote) "shithole", and that public statement is seen (no matter how or why) by one of your bosses, recognizing you... would you be surprised if you got fired ?
The OP seems to be surprised, for some strange reason.
Well considering this is a private page that only her friends can visit then its kinda diffrant than going on national TV and saying it.
What happened was someones show what i wrote to a manager. TBH i was leaving september 1st so its just a way to get out faster in my eyes
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.12 13:58:00 -
[103]
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Does the employer know for a fact its the actual person said to having said that who said it? Are they the internets secret police now all of a sudden?
Given the number of people who use their real name, or something close enough, on social networking sites, I'd say this is not important.
And if you work at a unique business with only one location and a limited number of employees, you don't even have to use your real name for it be a problem.
So if I only find out where you work then some cleverly placed slander should get you fired?
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.12 15:13:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Cosy
plz give us the name or the link and lets make a little google bomb
we can make several wordpress blog about that and crosslink them and after that send to your ex-boss a link :D
Yeah, that'll help his future job searching.
Originally by: Martin
Well considering this is a private page that only her friends can visit then its kinda diffrant than going on national TV and saying it.
What part of social networking site do we not get? It sounds to me like he made it public to anyone which is how the boss got a hold of it. And if it was private then he doesn't have very good friends.
Originally by: Wendat
So if I only find out where you work then some cleverly placed slander should get you fired?
I would be able to prove that it wasn't me that wrote it. Furthermore, if we find where the message came from you could very well see this (can't find a decent example of that law)
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.08.12 16:36:00 -
[105]
This gets you fired also:
Video shows Burger King employee bathing in sink
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.12 16:53:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Ademaro Imre
This gets you fired also:
Video shows Burger King employee bathing in sink
That's one of the reasons why I don't dare touch fast food places. I've heard way too many horror stories locally to ever want to trust those places. Granted it can happen anywhere but the likelyhood of a fast food place is generally higher.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:11:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
That's one of the reasons why I don't dare touch fast food places. I've heard way too many horror stories locally to ever want to trust those places. Granted it can happen anywhere but the likelyhood of a fast food place is generally higher.
If you make it a point to **** on your food (just a little) everyday, you'll build up an immunity.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:28:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Cosy
plz give us the name or the link and lets make a little google bomb
we can make several wordpress blog about that and crosslink them and after that send to your ex-boss a link :D
Yeah, that'll help his future job searching.
Originally by: Martin
Well considering this is a private page that only her friends can visit then its kinda diffrant than going on national TV and saying it.
What part of social networking site do we not get? It sounds to me like he made it public to anyone which is how the boss got a hold of it. And if it was private then he doesn't have very good friends.
Originally by: Wendat
So if I only find out where you work then some cleverly placed slander should get you fired?
I would be able to prove that it wasn't me that wrote it. Furthermore, if we find where the message came from you could very well see this (can't find a decent example of that law)
You can't be sure your proof would fly with the employer though can you, being right doesn't always mean you win. Especially if neither truly are computer wizzes. Of course I'd be posting from a public location as to take no fallout myself.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.08.12 17:45:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
You can't be sure your proof would fly with the employer though can you, being right doesn't always mean you win. Especially if neither truly are computer wizzes. Of course I'd be posting from a public location as to take no fallout myself.
It may be possible that I wouldn't catch the culprit yes but I'm pretty sure I could prove that I wasn't several thousand miles away posting a comment when they perform a trace.
And even if my proof doesn't fly with management that's what the BBB is for. They love to bring people off of high horses.
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:06:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 11/08/2008 23:46:37
Originally by: 7shining7one7
stating some extreme case that nobody would obviously do, to justify stiffling peoples rights to be themselves and be a little disgruntled at times but still doing their job.. as you did earlier aswell.. and like when you did it earlier in this thread.. the extreme case wasn't even remotely related..
Ok, let's go your way then... who are you to stiffle employer's rights to pick who they allow to be their employees ?
If an employee is creating problems for the company (WHATEVER those problems might be), you, as the employer, have every right to terminate their employment.
Yes, it was an extreme case, just to show that no, your responsabilities as an employee do NOT end when your shift ends and you leave the premises.
Yes, as an employee, you might have every right to criticize your employer. Just don't expect to still have a job if you do it in a manner that might damage the company's reputation or bottom line (not that much of a difference there).
Don't expect to have teeth if you **** over a employee to a great degree...(well not this employee).
Theres a reason the a PHB is pretty well spread meme you know, also team player does not mean "bend over here it comes again!!!". Again when not being paid or at a company fuction the response "my boss is a lying lazy cretin who will stab you in back faster than speeding bullet" should not get you sacked if its the truth.
Yes I have seen some little shitheel manager try and enforce his managerial role out side of office hours, lets just say the lvl of hostlity he recevied brought him to heel pretty dam quick.
So lets turn it around then akita do you think that someone who mocks there direct boss during a interview should hired?
Or should someone who advises there direct boss "listen I don't like you and unless we are in within working hours do not approch me, do not talk to me" get sacked?
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:34:00 -
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LOL@ people bringing all kinds of crap into the whole discussion which has nothing to do with the OP.
It's very simple; if you mess up big time you get fired, if you don't like that don't mess up or be your own boss.
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Bosie
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:40:00 -
[112]
Constructive Dismissal, unless we are not getting the whole story...
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:55:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Akita T on 12/08/2008 21:59:28
Originally by: nahtoh
So lets turn it around then akita do you think that someone who mocks there direct boss during a interview should hired?
Of course, you are refering to what I said much earlier on about my first job.
However, I said "slightly ridiculed", not "mocked".
I merely pointed out the fact he tried to conduct the interview AS IF it was for a different position (i.e. electrical/electromechanical engineer rather than I.T./automation engineer), and after realizing his mistake (but not admiting to it) trying to make it sound like there was absolutely no difference between the two things and continuing to question me about it (after which, I could pick between showing incompetence myself in order to please him, or point out just how wrong he was by pointing out the exact differences, and why they would need me and not somebody of the "wrong" expertise - guess what I did, and why I was hired anyway).
Now, it wasn't my fault he actually realized just how wrong he was eventually, nor was it my fault that he stormed out soon after "on urgent bussiness", and it certainly wasn't MY fault some of the other interviewing members started laughing (barely audibly, but still) behind his back when he left.
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Jessica Hoothra
Caldari
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2008.08.13 05:01:00 -
[114]
Op gets sacked from a chip shop. His reputation takes a battering.
/me gets coat.
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