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Solomon XI Hoist The Colors.	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:55:00 - [31] Yeah. I shouldn't never have taken it into the situation to begin with. None the less, I did. Lol. My PvP ships were a few systems away. Dumb move on my part. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO)
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors.	Posted - 2008.08.13 23:56:00 - [32] Originally by: amarrly Edited by: amarrly on 13/08/2008 23:54:26 So you say the basilisk got aggro repping the raven, what happened to the basilisk , he just carry on blinking, or was this in hi sec? and if he did aggro, why did'nt concord pop him. and if it was'nt in hi sec and your feeling revengeful why did'nt you carry on killing the gila then work on the raven with your domi back up? Or what is the rules with logistics in hi sec now, last time i used them you did'nt get aggro at all. Gila pilot got into Raven. I engaged Raven. Basilisk begins to remote rep said Raven. I engage Basilisk because he becomes blinky red to me. And this was ALL in high-sec. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO)
SkyFlyer	Posted - 2008.08.14 01:42:00 - [33] HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SIR ARE FAIL!!!!! (coudnt resist that)
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.14 01:44:00 - [34] Now that's creativity, that is one guy who deserves his loot. A-War Recruiting
Yelan Zhou Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2008.08.14 01:54:00 - [35] Ia m sorry for your loss. That said Gila and Basilisk vs Megathron sounds like from a Gozilla Movie O.o War. War never changes.
doctorstupid2 The Accursed	Posted - 2008.08.14 01:57:00 - [36] Originally by: Cpt Branko Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/08/2008 23:53:27 Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/08/2008 23:52:39 Never ever take your mission fit BS to try to fight a suicide gank. What you should've done is grab that Heavy Neutron Blaster II fit trimarked fully gank mega with, say, double webs, and then show the Gila pilot (if the other guys aren't on grid, if they are just don't engage) how it feels to die in 15s before your backup arrives :) Could be funny if done right ;) Otherwise, no exploit there, just very cleverly done. Alternatively, you could/should kept the Gila AND Raven locked. As far as I can recall, you cannot board ships which are locked. Medium guns you say? Brilliant. Abusive \| Deadspace \| Deadspace2
Scurvy Rickett	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:08:00 - [37] Originally by: Gruxella edit: you can continue to shoot the gila after he ejects... This.
Stinky McPoopyPants Minmatar corporation 1518849429	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:21:00 - [38] Originally by: Scurvy Rickett Originally by: Gruxella edit: you can continue to shoot the gila after he ejects... This. that.
Dura'Lorth	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:43:00 - [39] Edited by: Dura''Lorth on 14/08/2008 02:45:07 Concord doesnt attack you if your shooting an empty ship. Do you not understand this? is it that hard for you to grasp the simplest of concepts? They eject, you blow up the empty ships. You got spanked, and just proved to the world how big of a noob you are. Also medium guns on a navy Mega, you deserved to lose it. ================================================== You cant spell risk with out isk.
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors.	Posted - 2008.08.14 02:54:00 - [40] Originally by: Dura'Lorth Edited by: Dura''Lorth on 14/08/2008 02:45:07 Concord doesnt attack you if your shooting an empty ship. Do you not understand this? is it that hard for you to grasp the simplest of concepts? They eject, you blow up the empty ships. You got spanked, and just proved to the world how big of a noob you are. Also medium guns on a navy Mega, you deserved to lose it. Medium guns, you say? 425MM Tech-II, nub. Also, you post with an alt. Post with your main before you speak. I got rolled because I mis-calculated and didn't expect it. Like I said, I've never seen that trick before. I also didn't know that if you shoot an empty ship, you don't get Concordoken'd. Like I said, it was new to me. So please, shut the hell up... and die in a fire... because you sir, fail to grasp what my original post was about. I was a n00b in the respect that I've never seen NOR used this trick before. So please. Just... die. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO)
Kavu Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.14 03:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Solomon XI Edited by: Solomon XI on 14/08/2008 03:03:06 Edited by: Solomon XI on 14/08/2008 02:59:25 Originally by: Dura'Lorth Edited by: Dura''Lorth on 14/08/2008 02:45:07 Concord doesnt attack you if your shooting an empty ship. Do you not understand this? is it that hard for you to grasp the simplest of concepts? They eject, you blow up the empty ships. You got spanked, and just proved to the world how big of a noob you are. Also medium guns on a navy Mega, you deserved to lose it. Medium guns, you say? 425MM Tech-II, nub. Also, you post with an alt. Post with your main before you speak. I got rolled because I mis-calculated and didn't expect it. I'm not sad I lost the ship. I lost it because of something I did. Oh well. We move on. I was wondering if this was an EXPLOIT or not. That was the purpose of this topic. Like I said, I've never seen that trick before. I also didn't know that if you shoot an empty ship, you don't get Concordoken'd. Like I said, it was new to me. So please, shut the hell up... and die in a fire... because you sir, fail to grasp what my original post was about. I was a n00b in the respect that I've never seen NOR used this trick before. So please. Just... die. Word of advice: Read the ORIGINAL post before you speak because you sir just proved to the world how big of an idiot you actually are. I pity you but I pity your mother more. (ingame)
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.14 03:54:00 - [42] BTW, this thread is worthless without pics of said girl.
Kavu Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.14 03:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Eternal Error BTW, this thread is worthless without pics of said girl. be careful what you ask for...
Xzar Fyrarr Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.08.14 04:14:00 - [44] Originally by: SkyFlyer HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SIR ARE FAIL!!!!! (coudnt resist that) From the depths of the thread graveyard. dOOd joor face!11!11!1oneoneonenone (couldn't resist)
Kavu Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.14 04:17:00 - [45] Edited by: Kavu on 14/08/2008 04:17:30 Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr Originally by: SkyFlyer HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SIR ARE FAIL!!!!! (coudnt resist that) From the depths of the thread graveyard. dOOd joor face!11!11!1oneoneonenone (couldn't resist) that actually doesnt even make sense
Eleventy 1	Posted - 2008.08.14 04:31:00 - [46] Edited by: Eleventy 1 on 14/08/2008 04:31:51 Originally by: Kavu Edited by: Kavu on 14/08/2008 04:17:30 Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr Originally by: SkyFlyer HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SIR ARE FAIL!!!!! (coudnt resist that) From the depths of the thread graveyard. dOOd joor face!11!11!1oneoneonenone (couldn't resist) that actually doesnt even make sense Over a year ago - skyflyer made a post. The 1st reply was 'Dude, your face'. It was funny.
Kavu Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.14 04:32:00 - [47] Originally by: Eleventy 1 Originally by: Kavu Edited by: Kavu on 13/08/2008 22:33:33 just target the empty ships then no one can get into them.... you cant board a targeted ship, call up 2 friends and blam you got a free gila and raven If you're so damn smart can you PLEASE figure out a way to turn off my blob module?!!? It only activates when you're in my gang... Originally by: Kavu Edited by: Kavu on 14/08/2008 04:17:30 Originally by: Xzar Fyrarr Originally by: SkyFlyer HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U SIR ARE FAIL!!!!! (coudnt resist that) From the depths of the thread graveyard. dOOd joor face!11!11!1oneoneonenone (couldn't resist) that actually doesnt even make sense Over a year ago - skyflyer made a post. The 1st reply was 'Dude, your face'. It was funny. right, still hardly appropriate for the situation, and far from the first post
Divad Ginleek Gallente Gateway Industries House of Mercury	Posted - 2008.08.14 05:06:00 - [48] I'm trying to wrap my head around how this is not an exploit. but i guess if can flipping 1 day old newbs in starter ships is legit. anything goes! welcome to eve, dont fly what you can't afford to lose, etc etc. Glad i read about that lock = no board trick though, I'll be looking for empty ships to lock and steal now =D. ::insert witty signature here::
Alchemos Gallente Middle School Comedy Club	Posted - 2008.08.14 05:53:00 - [49] If he had targeted the raven he would have been fine. He should have popped the gila (since he can, concord wont come) and then he should have just left while keeping raven targeted. I am sorry he is dumb
techzer0 Minmatar Mafia	Posted - 2008.08.14 06:54:00 - [50] Originally by: SurrenderMonkey That is pretty sweet, but I think it would be far more appropriate if the Gila (in this case) remained a legal target despite the fact that the pilot ejected. Yeah... how the heck do you lose aggro when someone ejects from a ship scramming you? lol The locking both ships and getting them free is an amazing idea I think I stole a rigged raven and some other crap from a gaurded offline pos before they remembered that trick ------------ CCP > Let's play the nerf a race game! Next up minmatar!

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.08.14 07:02:00 - [51] Regarding the "target the ships so they can't board"-tactic, afaik the original owner can always board the ship, targetted or not. Not sure if that applies to corp members as well, but from tests on SiSi I've always managed to board my own ship while targetted, even when others can't - as it's targetted. But either way it's a good tactic to target the ships to prevent the "switch trick". Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar?

Gruxella Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.14 07:10:00 - [52] Originally by: kublai Edited by: kublai on 14/08/2008 01:46:06 Now that's creativity, that is one guy who deserves his loot. PS. It's not an exploit or anywhere near it, you aggress the pilot not the ship, you should have sucked less mm'kay. According to my understanding of the EULA and various guide lines (and me being me i've had to aquaint myself quite a bit with it to avoid...more bans) this isn't even in a grey area, it's so legit you can eat off it. In fact, I bet several gm's are laughing at your petitions right now going "holy shit that is some wicked ass piracy man, we GOTTA try that during the lunch break!". The only gray area where it becomes an exploit is if someone (else) hops in the ship the victim is shooting. The victim will then get concorded. I've lost 2 or 3 battle haulers to this :( ---- VHI - We Haul Your Cargo For Free ---- We Miss you Red 7.
Horas Redwyne Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.14 07:43:00 - [53] First off you should never use a faction ship... but yeah you know that by now or you knew that the moment two more showed up ;) It is a simple loop hole because the system sees the gila pilot as a poor person who just lost his ship and is on the way to get a new one to get back at the aggressor. The sad thing is the system as such got used to its limits and kudos to attackers who thought out of the box and made it happen. But my guess is we could possibly see a fix to this loop hole soon as if there are more people using this. It is just funny how people fell about those wrecks and protecting them. Seems "greed" is just so predictable and you can always count on it :P
Dura'Lorth	Posted - 2008.08.14 07:55:00 - [54] Originally by: Solomon XI Edited by: Solomon XI on 14/08/2008 03:03:06 Edited by: Solomon XI on 14/08/2008 02:59:25 Originally by: Dura'Lorth Edited by: Dura''Lorth on 14/08/2008 02:45:07 Concord doesnt attack you if your shooting an empty ship. Do you not understand this? is it that hard for you to grasp the simplest of concepts? They eject, you blow up the empty ships. You got spanked, and just proved to the world how big of a noob you are. Also medium guns on a navy Mega, you deserved to lose it. Medium guns, you say? 425MM Tech-II, nub. Also, you post with an alt. Post with your main before you speak. I got rolled because I mis-calculated and didn't expect it. I'm not sad I lost the ship. I lost it because of something I did. Oh well. We move on. I was wondering if this was an EXPLOIT or not. That was the purpose of this topic. Like I said, I've never seen that trick before. I also didn't know that if you shoot an empty ship, you don't get Concordoken'd. Like I said, it was new to me. So please, shut the hell up... and die in a fire... because you sir, fail to grasp what my original post was about. I was a n00b in the respect that I've never seen NOR used this trick before. So please. Just... die. Word of advice: Read the ORIGINAL post before you speak because you sir just proved to the world how big of an idiot you actually are. I pity you but I pity your mother more. Check me up ingame, i may be in a starter corp but im hardly a noob. Check how long ive been around, this is my main now, he was a char on 2nd account that ive been training, and is currently sitting at 31 million sp. ================================================== You cant spell risk with out isk.
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors.	Posted - 2008.08.14 08:26:00 - [55] Originally by: Horas Redwyne First off you should never use a faction ship... but yeah you know that by now or you knew that the moment two more showed up ;) It is a simple loop hole because the system sees the gila pilot as a poor person who just lost his ship and is on the way to get a new one to get back at the aggressor. The sad thing is the system as such got used to its limits and kudos to attackers who thought out of the box and made it happen. But my guess is we could possibly see a fix to this loop hole soon as if there are more people using this. It is just funny how people fell about those wrecks and protecting them. Seems "greed" is just so predictable and you can always count on it :P Oh it wasn't exactly greed. What's mine is mine and nobody elses. Lol. Take what you can, give nothing back attitude I guess you could say. Anyhow yeah this was a beautiful gank. And yes I know the risks of flying a faction ship. I lost a CNR to a 20-raven suicide gank on a gate once. Lol. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO)
Horas Redwyne Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.08.14 08:34:00 - [56] Originally by: Solomon XI And yes I know the risks of flying a faction ship. I lost a CNR to a 20-raven suicide gank on a gate once. Lol. Thats why I sold my faction fitted Paladin. I did feel safer Ratting in 0.0 then flying that ship in high sec.
ImUrDestiny Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.08.14 08:38:00 - [57] Originally by: Solomon XI Originally by: Kahega Amielden His complaint is that he couldn't do anything while the switch was going on, as the aggression timer doesn't apply to pods. That might be a legitimate complaint, although I doubt it would change much since chances are his friends brought the battleship quite close to him to minimize downtime. Exactly. The timer also doesn't apply to ships that are un-piloted. So I couldn't do anything to defend myself for about 45 seconds. You could have stayed aligned and warped out when they switched. Instead you chose to just sit there in your mission fit navy mega and got owned.
Calvin Pax Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.14 09:23:00 - [58] One question doe: Were was your GF during this ?? Surely she¦s in the same corp as you and therefore she also could have engage the red flashy ships.
Solomon XI Hoist The Colors.	Posted - 2008.08.14 09:40:00 - [59] Originally by: ImUrDestiny You could have stayed aligned and warped out when they switched. Instead you chose to just sit there in your mission fit navy mega and got owned. Tried to. Was being bumped to oblivion. Originally by: Calvin Pax One question doe: Were was your GF during this ?? Surely she¦s in the same corp as you and therefore she also could have engage the red flashy ships. She was there. Both of our ships were in a mission fit. Lol. Her Domi got rolled as well. Was a night of epic fail on both our parts. Lol. ~Solo Hoist The Colors. (CEO)
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.08.14 10:18:00 - [60] This was deemed an exploit by a GM my friend told me about. He had communications with a GM. He was in a hauler, canflipped a battleship. The battleship engaged the hauler, the hauler pilot ejected and jumped into a Raven (same exact thing) and popped the battleship pilot. This was said to be an exploit by that GM. www.siigarikitawa.com

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