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Defialed
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Posted - 2008.08.23 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Defialed on 23/08/2008 20:01:56
Edited by: Defialed on 23/08/2008 20:00:05
Hello, like many of you, i gate camp, kill people, and just generally am a "ebil" person
however i had an interesting arguement with a carebear who was smacking about how we arent pirates while we just ransomed a pod...
now, what IS a pirate? :P
IMHO a pirate is-
A person who ransoms
person who roams low sec belts
gate camper
and the general love of the barebears who jump through
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Lokius Ahgamemnon
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:02:00 -
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ho ho you are correct sir
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Kirra Liu
Echelon Holdings
Echelon.
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kirra Liu on 23/08/2008 20:03:59
In my view a pirate is anyone that participates in combat without a specific reason for shooting someone i.e. Attacking someone just because they are there. A pirate can still have rules that they follow, but they generally disregard the rules of an area etc.
Alot of anti-pirate folks in my view are pirates. This is because they end up being NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It) and generally end up just looking to make their killboards look better.
Oh and pirates say Yarr, and shiver me timbers, n stuff
Im not pirate, follow a strict NRDS policy, follow the rules of where I live and work, although this change is recent.
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Defialed
Cold Fury Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:09:00 -
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the guy was calling us gate campers, not pirates...
TBH i would think killing poeple just cause they are there is pirating, general pvp works the same except no ransoms...
Vandamsel > Sometimes, when I'm bored, I put a cape on my ***** and solve mysteries |
Kyle Klanen
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:20:00 -
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What defines a piracy from ganking is that the pirates primary motivation is profit, of course a ganker sometimes profits and a pirate may gank so the lines are blurred a little but the definition is still there.
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Saint Lazarus
Spiorad ag fanaiocht
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:48:00 -
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Piracy is a meat dish made from finely chopped or ground raw noobs or horse meat. Pirates can also be made by thinly slicing a high grade of meat such as strip steak, marinating it in quafe or other spirits and spicing it to taste, and then chilling it. It is often served with onions, capers and seasonings (the latter typically incorporating fresh ground pepper and Worcestershire sauce), and sometimes with a raw pod
I believe that answers this age old question once and for all
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Ayame Mishima
xPlaguex
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Posted - 2008.08.23 20:54:00 -
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pi+ra+cy
ûnoun, plural -cies.
1.practice of a pirate; robbery or illegal violence at sea.
2.the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, patented invention, trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset with piracy.
3.Also called stream capture. Geology. diversion of the upper part of one stream by the headward growth of another.
Well... I don't recall anyone ingame being able to reproduce anything trademarked illegally and I can't see anyone being geologically active in outer space, so it might have to do something with the first... although we are not at sea. ;)
Ok, ok, let's call it the vast ocean of space... now when is illegal violence used? ;)
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers
Black Hand.
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Posted - 2008.08.23 21:02:00 -
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An old definition:
PvP:er = A person who makes ISK to PvP.
Pirate = A person who PvP:s to make ISK.
Black Hand.
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Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.08.23 21:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
An old definition:
PvP:er = A person who makes ISK to PvP.
Pirate = A person who PvP:s to make ISK.
Ah yes, this is a good one. But you have to extract the gatesnipers/smartbombers from the equation.
Because that activity, IMO, seems to be closer to mining.
Obviously everyone has a different view of what makes a pirate, one of my customers once called me a pirate; that made me feel all warm inside. ♥ 
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Defialed
Cold Fury Coalition
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Posted - 2008.08.24 06:12:00 -
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okay now i knows :P
cause if someone says to me- YOUR N0TZA PIWITE
right after i kill them/they see me camping a gate then i wanna make sure that they know they are wrong :P
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2008.08.24 06:21:00 -
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2 words.... well, actually it's more like 4 or 5 words, but... nonconsentual PvP 
Originally by: Lorz0r
garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny,
10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
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Rawrior
Gallente
Neo Spartans
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Posted - 2008.08.24 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
2 words.... well, actually it's more like 4 or 5 words, but... nonconsentual PvP
SHUN HIM! SHUN THE NONBELIVER!!@2! has the church let you go?
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Fel Flash
The Accursed
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:16:00 -
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Personally I think of a pirate as an opportunist. Someone who ganks haulers and noobs out ratting. If you're in low sec looking for fights or roaming in a blob, you aren't a pirate.
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Lord Zoran
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zoran on 24/08/2008 11:27:13
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
2 words.... well, actually it's more like 4 or 5 words, but... nonconsentual PvP
also known as r..e 
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D'ceet
Shadows of the Dead
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:28:00 -
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King of the Pirates
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NereSky
Gallente
Trinity Nova
Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:31:00 -
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Over the years this has been discussed many times, some peeps who are against the idea of actually owning space call the owners pirates to a degree, what you need to do is break it down using historical records as a comparison,
Pirates have been known throughout the ages as a bloodthirsty bunch that murder, ****, steal (among other things)
now most of the above cannot be applied to Eve so i look at what defines a pirate thus;
Indescriminate blowing up of ships through the art of PvP for enjoyment and/or profit,
and/or indescriminate attacking ships for the purpose of ransom.
Coupled into this some peeps may add scamming and even go as far as piracy of the market by controlling the market prices through one means or another for profit, but i personnally would not call those pirates,
Then you have another option can some mercenaries be technically Privateers (paid to pirate certain systems) ?
The more you try to look into it the more complicated it can become whence i define piracy as what i stated above which is straight forward and keeping it simple.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.24 11:51:00 -
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Not another one of these threads. 
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Jones Bones
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.08.24 13:17:00 -
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Piracy is a robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on the shore, without a commission from a sovereign nation (robbery with sovereign commission is privateering, and distinct from piracy).
Change "sea" to "space" and that's the technical definition. So from this technical definition most people in EVE (PVPers anyways) are privateers, not pirates.
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Shigsy
The Golden Goat
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Posted - 2008.08.24 13:18:00 -
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A pirate is someone who does what they want, because a pirate is free, they are a pirate.
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Terra Mikael
I Am Not A Lawyer
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Posted - 2008.08.24 14:14:00 -
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You forgot a big point:
Must have a boated sense of e-honor, and a lack of a sense of irony
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
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Plim
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.24 18:50:00 -
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3.142 x a standard rate.
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USA4
C.R.I.M.E
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Posted - 2008.08.24 18:59:00 -
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grabs plim's bum
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Plim
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:01:00 -
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Ha! USA oh em gee 
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:18:00 -
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need to be -10
/me waits for flame 
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Haitchi Allamut
The Movement
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Posted - 2008.08.24 19:18:00 -
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Simple. I am the pure definition of Pirate.
yarr.
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Raniss
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Posted - 2008.08.25 00:45:00 -
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A pirate is a < 18 year old kid who thinks hes a big guy and acts like a complete ftard in order to make him look cool with his even more ******ed friends.
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Adeptus mecanicus
The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2008.08.25 01:37:00 -
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Piracy is a robbery committed in space, or sometimes on the gate, without a commission from a sovereign alliance (robbery with sovereign commission is privateering, and distinct from piracy).
made the wickipedia description more eve like
there is also the title buccaneer and is described as following.
The term buccaneer is now used generally as a synonym for pirate. Originally, buccaneer crews were larger, more apt to attack alliances.
yeah i gave that one also a eve flavor
so if we use those historical terms in eve it can traslate to:
pirates: corp or smaller outfits that prey on all and pay homage to none.
privatreers: corp or smaller outfits that has a licence from a alliance that has sov to prey on none blue corps/alliances
buccaneers: coalision of pirates (alliance) that attack larger entitys and their holdings (pos's/system siege+++).
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Shmak DatAsh
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.08.25 02:20:00 -
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This.
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Gark32
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.08.25 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Shmak DatAsh
This.
Whoa.
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2008.08.25 08:38:00 -
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A pirate is someone who kills alot of people
makes alot of enemies
gets a large bounty
and ends up dead.
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