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Ghoest	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:21:00 - [1] When people were upset about the speed nerf - at least there was an issue. Now we are back to a small minority of vocal forum players trying to make it look like there is a popular opinion in favor of nerfing high sec missions. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:21:00 - [2] Again? Was it ever serious? -------- Ideas for: Mining
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:23:00 - [3] Level 4 agents should only be available in 0.0 Originally by: Lorz0r garmon is 90% Surfin's PlunderBunny, 10% er...Surfin's PlunderBunny
Traidor Disloyal I Am Not A Lawyer	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:23:00 - [4] Isn't it great. When you can't play the game at work you can at least get a laugh from the forums. --------------------------------------------- Love is having a second account with a cov ops pilot
Xevan Templar 7th Batavian Squadron	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:26:00 - [5] As much as I agree, you only need a few braincells to see it. I wouldn't be worried by it. If we can see through it, so can CCP.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:27:00 - [6] why not start a thread about it SKUNK
Thea Arsoniztik Red Tides	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 - [7] Knock Knock....
Siberys Gallente Nebula Sharks	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 - [8] Just like this thread?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Ghoest When people were upset about the speed nerf - at least there was an issue. Now we are back to a small minority of vocal forum players trying to make it look like there is a popular opinion in favor of nerfing high sec missions. First: 'speed nerf - at least there was an issue' Many players vocally ridiculed everyone just as they are doing now. You obviously don't see it as an issue. They obviously do. Someone could very easily compare the complaints about hisec as being identical in the speed nerf complaints, even stating that they were baseless whines trying to change another players form of play. These arguments are pretty universal. Second: 'small minority of vocal forum players' - I'm not sure what 'facts' and figures you are using, but I haven't seen any way to define what is the minority or majority of forum users opinions. Is the 'majority' only those who agree with you? Third: 'make it look like it is a popular opinion' - Now your trying to defame an argument by implying deceit and subterfuge. What is 'popular opinion', other than a perception anyhow? It seems you are trying to do the opposite, by attempting to cast this other opinion as 'unpopular' and your own as popular. Seems that your more in line of practicing the poor tactics you preach against, no? I'm just busting your chops. Why do so many people who have been on these forums for so long still cry and complain about whines? You know they are here, you know you don't agree or you do agree. Why btch? Just letting off steam? Are you any better than the other complainers? Quote:* If you like playing EvE, but don't like to PvP ... Maybe it's time you recognize that you don't really like to play EvE.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 - [10] Originally by: Ghoest Now we are back to a small minority of vocal forum players trying to make it look like there is a popular opinion I believe the appropriate phrase goes along the lines of "If you don't vote, don't complain". Interesting how the 'vocal minority' is fine with you when there is what you consider a real issue. - DesuSigs
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Abrazzar Again? Was it ever serious? Beat me to it and within 60 seconds of the OP. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:32:00 - [12] I think we need another thread about this! No wait ... maybe not ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
WishBlade Caldari League of Disgruntled Fast Food Employees	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Thea Arsoniztik Knock Knock.... http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3237/1219486131144av3.jpg Aweseomenessness
Uzume Ame Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:42:00 - [14] One question though, why suddenlly all this "nerf hi-sec" hysteria? Is this a subtle operation by suicide gankers for being "nerfed" theirshelves? Who started all this? Just curious. P.S: I know this is an usual issue that has been posted everyonce in a while, but still now got 'out of hand' (except the fun). Teh failure of a signature.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Uzume Ame One question though, why suddenlly all this "nerf hi-sec" hysteria? Is this a subtle operation by suicide gankers for being "nerfed" theirshelves? Who started all this? Just curious. P.S: I know this is an usual issue that has been posted everyonce in a while, but still now got 'out of hand' (except the fun). Noticed this too. Probably several people started posting it more due to the suicide ganking nerf, and it just caught on. Incidentally, high-sec probably should be nerfed. Think of the kittens. - DesuSigs
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:46:00 - [16] I'm thinking of the kittens, but they seemed to be singularly uninterested in the nerf-high sec question. Balls of wool though ... -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Uzume Ame One question though, why suddenlly all this "nerf hi-sec" hysteria? Is this a subtle operation by suicide gankers for being "nerfed" theirshelves? Who started all this? Just curious. P.S: I know this is an usual issue that has been posted everyonce in a while, but still now got 'out of hand' (except the fun). All the other good nerf arguments had already been had. The 'nerf pirates' and the 'nerf pvp' and the 'nerf chocolate' and the 'nerf minmatar'. What else did you expect us to talk about? Also, it was just what we do at the beginning of each month. Roll the wheel, hisec btches come up on top. Well, what else is there to really grip people, unless you paint a picture of 300 hisec players making billions a day from doing level 4 missions. And macro runners. We all hate those. You just tie them right into your argument, and BAMMO, you gotta winna! Quote:* If you like playing EvE, but don't like to PvP ... Maybe it's time you recognize that you don't really like to play EvE.
Yuko Agura Minmatar Deadalus Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:49:00 - [18] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Level 4 agents should only be available in 0.0 Why do you feel lvl 4 missions should only be available in 0.0 space? For me as a solo player, lvl 4 missions allow me to have some of the same opportunities as those that are part of a corp or alliance that has access to 0.0 space. Share the wealth I say... 0.0 space has it's riches that many players weill never have access to so give us the lvl 4's.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Yuko Agura For me as a solo player, lvl 4 missions allow me to have some of the same opportunities as those that are part of a corp or alliance that has access to 0.0 space. An explanation of why Lv4s are bad disguised as a question asking why Lv4s are bad. I like. - DesuSigs
Bartholomeus Crane Gallente The Crane Family	Posted - 2008.08.26 15:55:00 - [20] I dislike recursive quanswers. -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Lemptie Gallente Glass House	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:02:00 - [21] do da wiel
Da'Hogge	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:05:00 - [22] People dont wanna play the game my way......waaaah....waaaahhh it cracks me up.
Kinuko	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:07:00 - [23] Originally by: Ghoest When people were upset about the speed nerf - at least there was an issue. Now we are back to a small minority of vocal forum players trying to make it look like there is a popular opinion in favor of nerfing high sec missions. Don't worry about it, high-sec mission nerf would be an act of suicide for CCP. In fact, for all that we know CCP might buff high sec missions when ambulation arrives.
Atrei Capital	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:08:00 - [24] Edited by: Atrei Capital on 26/08/2008 16:10:14 Originally by: Yuko Agura Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Level 4 agents should only be available in 0.0 Why do you feel lvl 4 missions should only be available in 0.0 space? For me as a solo player, lvl 4 missions allow me to have some of the same opportunities as those that are part of a corp or alliance that has access to 0.0 space. Share the wealth I say... 0.0 space has it's riches that many players weill never have access to so give us the lvl 4's. 1) I want the same rewards, without all that work and organization, and it's unfair if I don't get them. 2) It is entirely impossible to go into 0.0 alone, avoiding highly populated systems and ratting / plexing for yourself. Edit: Isn't it sort of the point that we don't "share the wealth", but fight over the wealth? If there was plenty to go around, and we could all hold hands and hug and share, I think the universe would be quite different. Limit missions to X number of missions per system per hour. Sort of like you can't have 200 miners in one system, or 200 ratters in one system, being funneled unlimited resources.
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:09:00 - [25] Oh I didnt agree with most the complaining on the speed nerf. But I understand why people were upset - their ships were being nerfed. If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:11:00 - [26] Boe-hoe, I'm too chicken to even try lowsec/0.0, can't be bothered to team up with other people to do it, and too insignifiant/worthless/lazy to join an alliance or even rent space from a big 0.0 power bloc. But I DEMAND the same level of reward like the people who bothered doing all of the above. Fear me, I am subscription payer supreme, my wallet is the law ! _ SHOPS \|\| Mission rewards revamp \|\| better nanofix
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Ghoest When people were upset about the speed nerf - at least there was an issue. Now we are back to a small minority of vocal forum players trying to make it look like there is a popular opinion in favor of nerfing high sec missions. Oh hey, small vocal minority here. *REPRESENT* Being a small vocal minority doesn't make you wrong. In fact, its statistically more plausible that it makes you right. Perhaps there being a small vocal minority in favour of nerfing agents for the past four years means something? Maybe it means that no matter how many generations of player churn we get, there are always a few who devote the time to analyze EVE and always conclude agents are a source of problems. JUST MAYBE. Now if you'll excuse me while I go collect all my opinions and witty remarks. I'm worried there won't be more threads about nothing in which to share them.
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:14:00 - [28] All the mission nerf noise is revenge against carebears for the Empire security adjustments. It's not hard to figure out. .
Karii Ildarian Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:14:00 - [29] Originally by: Akita T Boe-hoe, I'm too chicken to even try lowsec/0.0, can't be bothered to team up with other people to do it, and too insignifiant/worthless/lazy to join an alliance or even rent space from a big 0.0 power bloc. But I DEMAND the same level of reward like the people who bothered doing all of the above. Fear me, I am subscription payer supreme, my wallet is the law ! Yes! I demand moon mining rights in Jita!
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.08.26 16:24:00 - [30] The rabble mentality from CAOD seems to have found its way to General Discussion. I mean, the forums used to be to some degree interesting and could at least keep my attention from work when at work, but now I will actually prefer working than read these forums. Every second thread is made by ignorant pompous fools whining about non-existing issues. Boring ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute

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