http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USepJOINZKk&feature=g-u-u&context=G2a828a3FUAAAAAAAAAA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USepJOINZKk&feature=g-u-u&context=G2a828a3FUAAAAAAAAAA

oh. cripes im sure all of them 10+ tornados would get instapopped by lowsec gateguns in that time of 15 seconds it takes to gank that freighter (really?). or maybe they can do that allready in highsec in that same time sacrificing all the ships at same time but still getting the kill?

If you have not registered aggression at the point of logoff, you will disappear as normal. This cannot be extended by post-logoff aggression.

No they need to specifically answer to jumping a gate and logging off while before decloak.

There is a difference between logging off getting dced while in warp while everyone can still see you and abusing a game mechanic in a way it was not intended to be used.

This is what CCP needs to answer.

Is using this mechanic in the way it was used in the video CCP sponsored. Is logging off a to avoid a fight something CCP supports.

Thats what they need to answer.

No F that. Kill the 1 min despawn. Its 15 min or nothing.

No F that. Kill the 1 min despawn. Its 15 min or nothing.

If Yes I unsub my accounts.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Logging_out

"Please note that if a player logs out of the game without an aggression timer/PvP logout timer and is shot at or aggressed in other ways before his ship disappears from space, he will not be given an aggression timer (unless the player logs in again within 15 minutes), which in turn leads to his ship disappearing exactly one minute after the time which he logged out of the game. The ship will still take damage as normal however, so if you are packing enough firepower to destroy the ship before the one minute timer is over, it will be destroyed. "

So yeah, working as intended, I guess. I suggest bringing more lazorz

I should not have to have ENOUGH firepower to kill things in less the a minute.

It literally fly's in the face of what this game is about. Even more disturbing is the trolls trying to defend it. Worse is they dont try to make sound points on why its justified that it works this way. They only troll.

Defend Logoffski.

If Yes I unsub my accounts. Cause thats utter crap.

You retards give pirates a bad name. This is a well documented game mechanic and has been this way for years. Everyone plays this game with the same game mechanics, and complaining about this is like freighter pilots complaining that they can not see who is one the other side of the gate before jumping. That is just the way the game works, and you need to adapt your tactics to it.

Learn to play the game the way it exists and quit crying just because the game mechanics don't make things easy for you. There are plenty of ways to catch someone dumb enough to fly a freighter in low sec.

He logged his character off before he de cloaked.

Are you two noobs not even paying attention? Are you not able to read and comprehend what grownups are talking about?

Move along let the grown ups handle this OK.

He logged his character off before he de cloaked.

Are you two noobs not even paying attention? Are you not able to read and comprehend what grownups are talking about?

Move along let the grown ups handle this OK.

You miss the point where he was going to log off no matter what?

That he logged off before we jumped into system?

These thoughts to big for you to understand or what?

I also have him bragging in local with his alt that he does it all the time. But cant post that here.

Move along buddy.

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Yup, dont fly what you cant lose.

go to system with a station or your own POS if you dont want to lose you stuff.

Nah, it's a well known tactic. I've used it myself, and had it used on me too. Closing the client isn't a rage quit, it's your last hope of getting out.

Let's try this another way. I am playing a 1v1 match in Starcraft 2. My opponent is down to his last SCV and I am just about to kill it, when my opponent disconnects.

EVE would record this as no win for me , no loss for my opponent and basically as if nothing has ever happened
Every other "real" competitive game on the planet records this as a win for me and a loss for my opponent

you can force a logoffski by just logging in an alt on the same account. because you have 2 people in space on one account the server disappears the non logged in character from space.

This is even more messed up and more proof that the current way the timers work is incorrect.

Also getting DCed in a mission is part of the risk. There are ships that can cover that problem if it happens. So yeah by all means screw mission runners if thats the argument you are trying to make.

The OH NO i dced argument is really a non starter and terrible standpoint. Dont play online MMOs if its that much of an issue for you. End of story.

If a ship gets disconnected before it escapes gate cloak, was it ever really there?

You are chasing ghosts and apparitions.

It really freaking is isnt it.

This is just mindbogglingly bad over site as far as I can tell.

If i dont have 50 guys in BCs and BSes that can tank gate guns we cant gank a freighter is what it comes down too.

Laying the trap like we did was worthless cause we had to be right there on gate from the start to make sure it died before the timer. That window of opportunity is freaking too small. Its just asinine to say the least cause it basically prevents us from setting up any traps. All your DPS must be on gate when it jumps through basically. We even avoided the scout of the guy by moving around a lot so he would feel safe enough to jump in!

Its utter rubbish that this is in game and possible.

Seems they did not know it was being used in this way. They have not decided yet. But its clearly an exploit of the rules in a way they were not intended.

Maybe, but calling it an exploit by current mechanics isn't right.

Maybe those freighter pilots will need to play the game as intended. And bring back up get through gates like they should.

Like having the game work as it should and the way i already play it?

Im ok with that wish.

Im fine with that. Thats how it should be.

Pirates are cowards...

This is the 230th reply to this topic.

The solution is to not be so ******* obvious.

"Oh, a massive gate camp, eh? Do current game mechanics allow me to log off here? Yes. Does my ship disappear within a minute if I log off now? Yes. Is this intended? Yes. OK, then I will log off and cross my fingers"

It's the current implementation of game mechanics that this is working as intended. You can't, by definition, call it an exploit until CCP has ruled on it - and then you're not allowed to talk about it. So stop calling things you don't like an exploit.

Next time, use two sodding brain cells and set up a decent trap. Get your ships out of system and off grid. Then just have one stealth bomber decloak and lob a torp to gain aggro.

Then he's done for, because if he logs off he is aggroed, and whatever else he tries he will be too slow getting into warp to escape. Unless he's warping to station, I guess.

You got outplayed, because knowing he could safely log off was smarter than your gatecamp. Sorry.

Screw it...here is one...if you log off to avoid PVP and can escape the 15 min timer...that is an exploit and it will be called as such (at least by me) until CCP says otherwise.

Personally, I find it very unfair that the Freighter survived this, when my frigates who also log off under gate cloak will die. Clearly we need to make sure that all ships that log under gatecloak needs to get Freighter EHP!!!

I call it as it is

Butthurt

Cause they planned something, failed to take the fact into consideration of being able to log off as it is currently working, and failed so hard they

Let me tell you a story, a story about pirates camping an entry system into our area of space. One day these pirates, while doing their usual shenanigans, notice a freighter jumped into their system. We were working our hardest to blockade this area of space to prevent our enemies from gaining reinforcements. We were elated that there was a freighter, likely from our enemies, that jumped randomly into our waiting arms. He decloaked, we pointed, locked, attacked, and then he disappeared.

We were, rightly so, angry. So, we did the only thing that was left to us. While this guy was logged off and doing other things, we had at LEASt 1 person sitting on that stargate 23/7 for the next 3 weeks waiting for this guy to log in. He likely had a neutral alt looking at us every now and then because he never ever logged in. After 3 weeks of waking up early, staying up really late, missing classes and work, we re-evaluated our position. We had poured countless hours into the camping of this stargate for the freighter, our locator agents told us he was still in system, so we knew he hadn't gotten out. But, because the freighter pilot was logged off, he could go do whatever he wanted and waste days and days of our lives while he just checked back every once in a while to see if it was safe. After 3 weeks we just couldn't keep it up, so we went back to our normal routine.

He promptly logged in, warped off, and went on to safety.

Moral of the story? This guy was a complete idiot and jumped unscouted into our camp. He logged off, so we couldn't kill him in time. Then we had to put days of our lives into camping for the freighter, while the target only had to look at our forces every once in a while, and he went and did other stuff. The amount of time we had to invest in killing him was WAY out proportional to the effort he had to do to ensure his complete safety. Camping the system for the freighter to log in just doesn't work because he can just stay offline indefinately until we give up. Additionally there was no way that we could have ever possibly killed him, since he logged out immediately upon jumping in.

It's a broken mechanic. If we're able to aggress before he can warp off, he deserves to die.