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Onlay' Away
Minmatar
Flashpoint.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 19:45:00 -
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I read somewhere that "can-baiting" in new player systems is the fast track to getting banned. Is this true with "wreck-baiting"(don't know what to call it) as well?
Wreck-Baiting as in: I steal his rat-wreck, he attacks me, i kill him.
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Zombiefly
Subliminal Engineering
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Posted - 2008.08.27 19:47:00 -
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Both of these are legit. But dont think that doing it to newbs wont **** someone off and either war dec you or suicide gank you.
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Onlay' Away
Minmatar
Flashpoint.
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Posted - 2008.08.27 19:50:00 -
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I was more wondering if someone(not a newb) is in a starter system. I guess what I was also wondering is if you bait someone that is not a newb in a starter system-is it 'ban worthy'? Is the starter system rule(if there is one) for newbs or is it system wide?
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.08.27 20:06:00 -
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CCP has stated that you can't do this in any of the starter systems. If a newb travels out of that system however, then you're good to go.
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supr3m3justic3
Caldari
ACE'S OVER 8'S
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Posted - 2008.08.27 20:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Dirk Magnum
CCP has stated that you can't do this in any of the starter systems. If a newb travels out of that system however, then you're good to go.
can someone link that statement....cause thats just no fun:(
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KeLLaX
HUNLAR the Almighty
Scalar Federation
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Posted - 2008.08.27 20:35:00 -
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can't show the statement, but down below is the CCP (Eve System) warning for can-baiting in newbie systems:
2008.01.18 14:57
You have been warned for can baiting in rookie systems. If you do not cease this behavior, you will receive a temporary ban.
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2008.08.27 21:16:00 -
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I saw someone doing it the other day..
and infact, if you go onto the starmap, colour stars by ships destroyed in the last 24 hours..
Jita is the top
and then starter systems...
and something tells me that first npc doesn't WTF pwn all the newbs.
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Shirley Serious
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.08.27 21:29:00 -
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the knowledge base says this
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Frigateers
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Posted - 2008.08.28 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Onlay' Away
Wreck-Baiting as in: I steal his rat-wreck, he attacks me, i kill him.
I consider it wreck-baiting if you kill the rats and leave the goodies, waiting for them to steal your wreck. If you take from their wreck and they attack, I think you're in the clear.
That said,
however,
leave the newbies in the starter system alone, for pete's sake.
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
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Kelron Queldine
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.08.28 00:46:00 -
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I've done my share of evil things in game, but I honestly can't understand why someone would want to bait hour-old players in noobships who probably haven't even reached the section on flagging in the tutorial. |
Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.28 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kelron Queldine
I've done my share of evil things in game, but I honestly can't understand why someone would want to bait hour-old players in noobships who probably haven't even reached the section on flagging in the tutorial.
I dunno, maybe the Op can asnwer that?
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Cygnus Zhada
Amarr
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:11:00 -
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Newbies have a proper excuse to not know stuff, leave them be.
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Tyr Vaantau
Amarr
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.08.28 03:19:00 -
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You can also be nailed for can-baiting noobs in starter-constellations.
That's right. starter-constellations.
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Glarion Garnier
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.08.28 05:25:00 -
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yeh. Baiting noobs is like trying to get your sister to go out with you. It's plain wrong.
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syphurous
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.08.28 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Glarion Garnier
yeh. Baiting noobs is like trying to get your sister to go out with you. It's plain wrong.
Damn, I'll have to cancel that date then,...
Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
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sliver 0xD
exiles.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.08.28 06:39:00 -
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CCP is verry sensetive on the new player shooting thing. it seams that the players do not like to pay when they lose there ship when they undock for the first time :)
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Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 13:27:00 -
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Be aware that in starter systems and heck, even all 1.0 systems, not just can baiting but can FLIPPING can get you in trouble. People mining into cans with hulks will petition you faster than you can say "lol" and you just might find a GM ship sitting beside you. Now my crew and I weren't banned, just told firmly to bugger off out of this system and to not flip cans.
Something to consider when you're looking to steal some ore. I stay out of 1.0 now just to be safe 
Thanks for the Maulus BPO nerf! :D |
Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.28 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Monkey Saturday
Be aware that in starter systems and heck, even all 1.0 systems, not just can baiting but can FLIPPING can get you in trouble. People mining into cans with hulks will petition you faster than you can say "lol" and you just might find a GM ship sitting beside you. Now my crew and I weren't banned, just told firmly to bugger off out of this system and to not flip cans.
Something to consider when you're looking to steal some ore. I stay out of 1.0 now just to be safe
Sorry to sound thick but is it the system or the player that is of concern. A Player mining with a Hulk is hardly new so how can he complain if somebody steals from his can. If he is mining in a starter system with a Hulk then he should get banned for being a chicken Sh1t in a deep space mining vessel.
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Durzel
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.28 15:17:00 -
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How weak do you have to be to canflip hour-old noobs in the starter systems? I mean I'm all for survival of the fittest and "Eve is a harsh world" but c'mon - you're nailing these people then moaning that there's not enough targets to shoot at in low-sec. 
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Kiki Arnolds
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.28 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel
How weak do you have to be to canflip hour-old noobs in the starter systems? I mean I'm all for survival of the fittest and "Eve is a harsh world" but c'mon - you're nailing these people then moaning that there's not enough targets to shoot at in low-sec.
Last I checked the tutorial doesn't cover jet can mining... how exactly would an hour old newb have thought to jetcan mine?
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Monkey Saturday
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.08.28 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Pteranodon
Originally by: Monkey Saturday
Be aware that in starter systems and heck, even all 1.0 systems, not just can baiting but can FLIPPING can get you in trouble. People mining into cans with hulks will petition you faster than you can say "lol" and you just might find a GM ship sitting beside you. Now my crew and I weren't banned, just told firmly to bugger off out of this system and to not flip cans.
Something to consider when you're looking to steal some ore. I stay out of 1.0 now just to be safe
Sorry to sound thick but is it the system or the player that is of concern. A Player mining with a Hulk is hardly new so how can he complain if somebody steals from his can. If he is mining in a starter system with a Hulk then he should get banned for being a chicken Sh1t in a deep space mining vessel.
Well when we were petitioned for can flipping (In BS's no less  ) we were told to leave. We weren't picking on one pilot, we picked on ALL of them 
So yeah, despite it being "allowed" in most systems keep in mind that angry bears are often given the benefit of the doubt and ebil piwates aren't.
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ReVeReNd JeBuS
Trinity Church of Holy Righteousness
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Onlay' Away
I read somewhere that "can-baiting" in new player systems is the fast track to getting banned. Is this true with "wreck-baiting"(don't know what to call it) as well?
Wreck-Baiting as in: I steal his rat-wreck, he attacks me, i kill him.
What exactly do YOU gain from baiting a new player, not isk or mods worth the effort Move along before the Hammer of Retribution be dropped on you and yours
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:32:00 -
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Originally by: ReVeReNd JeBuS
Originally by: Onlay' Away
I read somewhere that "can-baiting" in new player systems is the fast track to getting banned. Is this true with "wreck-baiting"(don't know what to call it) as well?
Wreck-Baiting as in: I steal his rat-wreck, he attacks me, i kill him.
What exactly do YOU gain from baiting a new player, not isk or mods worth the effort Move along before the Hammer of Retribution be dropped on you and yours
go away, you're not funny and nobody likes you
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.29 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Soporo on 29/08/2008 00:37:03
Originally by: GM Krymus
To provide some much needed
clarification on this topic - doing anything to trick new
players into situations where you can destroy their
ships in a rookie system isn't allowed (can flipping and
leaving cans outside the station undock with 'free
stuff!' would both fall under this, for example').
If you encounter such a thing going on, please petition it as soon as possible under 'harassment' so that we can look into it.
Your answer.
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Sral TBear
Mark Of Chaos
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Posted - 2008.08.29 01:05:00 -
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me and my sin got a request to get the hell out or i would be put in bann jail for two weeks......
Because of my slow....hmmmmnavigation computer i got a second warning.....and well...nav puter came back online and i moved out.....c"concordski"cp
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Yiv
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Posted - 2008.08.29 09:28:00 -
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I used to can flip and actually made a good eve career out of it about a year back.
If they filled three criteria I let them be, but convoed them to educate them about the dangers of jetcan mining.
1. NPC corp
2. Under 14 days
3. Bantam or equivalent
I've given up on can flipping now but if you give me ISK I can offer you some pretty decent guides 
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cpt Mark
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Onlay' Away
I read somewhere that "can-baiting" in new player systems is the fast track to getting banned. Is this true with "wreck-baiting"(don't know what to call it) as well?
Wreck-Baiting as in: I steal his rat-wreck, he attacks me, i kill him.
Let's face it. Killing new players is lame, and anyone doing it is lame.
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:21:00 -
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Indeed, i've reported my fair share of peeps i see can baiting around Ammold.
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MilowFV
Echo Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:26:00 -
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So someone is saying that they got a warning from a GM for messing with a hulk or are folks just making shit up.
I know you cannt bait new player by kicking out a can and saying free stuff or something similar, but I ve never heard of anyone getting in trobule for messing with hulks.
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joan arcangel
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Posted - 2008.08.29 11:52:00 -
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Quote:
Last I checked the tutorial doesn't cover jet can mining... how exactly would an hour old newb have thought to jetcan mine?
well easy answer is they get told to by someone looking to steal the ore..
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: MilowFV
So someone is saying that they got a warning from a GM for messing with a hulk or are folks just making shit up.
I know you cannt bait new player by kicking out a can and saying free stuff or something similar, but I ve never heard of anyone getting in trobule for messing with hulks.
The circumstance would be the Hulk pilot as a gang leader with a load of noobs in the fleet. Steal from that can & you are interferring with the noobs. Hence the warning given.
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TinmanMiner
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pteranodon
Originally by: MilowFV
So someone is saying that they got a warning from a GM for messing with a hulk or are folks just making shit up.
I know you cannt bait new player by kicking out a can and saying free stuff or something similar, but I ve never heard of anyone getting in trobule for messing with hulks.
The circumstance would be the Hulk pilot as a gang leader with a load of noobs in the fleet. Steal from that can & you are interferring with the noobs. Hence the warning given.
Yeah Hulk pilots who want to be greedy and jetcan mine use this as an exploit. Get some noobs in gang to petition anyone who disrupts their mining Op.
Why do hulk drivers need to jetcan mine anyway? Surely cargohold plus expander II is big enough.
Hulks mining out entire noob systems is ok though...
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ApaKaka
Lone Starr Corporation
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:56:00 -
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I think the consensus is that anything that happens in a true 1.0 sec system (noob systems) has some special laws apply. Just stay away from them as a PVPer/griefer and you will have no problems tbh
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Pteranodon
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Posted - 2008.08.29 12:57:00 -
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Mining with a Hulk in a Noob system is fun. My Hulk holds 17000 ore. I open up local chat-find some noobs in the velators & bantams then mine the whole lot under there noses. It is funny to see the cries of anguish in local when all the roids vanish.
I know this is cruel but I used to look at the Hulk pilot with envy & I guess they will progress to do the same to other noobs in the future
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Angel Lightbringer
Caldari
Dark Evolution Industries
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Posted - 2008.08.29 13:09:00 -
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Originally by: cpt Mark
Let's face it. Killing new players is lame, and anyone doing it is lame.
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Enquiring about how you can bend the rule, is even worst...
Excuse me while I try to find a proper name for this.. dweeb? neh.. not harsh enough..
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Priory
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Posted - 2008.08.29 14:43:00 -
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What you do is find some baiters doing it outside of a starter station. Take their can when you're in something ridiculously overpowered to whatever they may have. Their tears and whine taste salty after that.
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Smokie McLottapot
Caldari
Keepers Of The Gate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:20:00 -
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WAHHHHHHH!!
We can't kill noobs that have only been in game for 5 mins.
Wahhhhh!
WTF with all the whine threads today?
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
WAHHHHHHH!!
We can't kill noobs that have only been in game for 5 mins.
Wahhhhh!
WTF with all the whine threads today?
he isn't whining you idiot. He asked whether it was allowed or not. Try reading the shitting OP next time jesus christ you're stupid.
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Deitre Cibrus
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
WAHHHHHHH!!
We can't kill noobs that have only been in game for 5 mins.
Wahhhhh!
WTF with all the whine threads today?
he isn't whining you idiot. He asked whether it was allowed or not. Try reading the shitting OP next time jesus christ you're stupid.
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Smokie McLottapot
Caldari
Keepers Of The Gate
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Posted - 2008.08.29 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
WAHHHHHHH!!
We can't kill noobs that have only been in game for 5 mins.
Wahhhhh!
WTF with all the whine threads today?
he isn't whining you idiot. He asked whether it was allowed or not. Try reading the shitting OP next time jesus christ you're stupid.
Maybe you should try reading the rest of the thread, which I was commenting about.
The OP's question was asked and answered long ago.
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Smokie McLottapot
WAHHHHHHH!!
We can't kill noobs that have only been in game for 5 mins.
Wahhhhh!
WTF with all the whine threads today?
he isn't whining you idiot. He asked whether it was allowed or not. Try reading the shitting OP next time jesus christ you're stupid.
Maybe you should try reading the rest of the thread, which I was commenting about.
The OP's question was asked and answered long ago.
Where?
Why don't you just go ahead and quote me someone saying "OH I WISH I COULD SLAUGHTER INNOCENT NOOBS BY THE BUCKETLOAD, DAMN YOU CCP!!!!"?
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Chaplain''Dextomus
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Posted - 2008.08.29 18:36:00 -
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Just one thing....
Where are all these starter systems?
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Nexus Kinnon
A Few Good Men.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chaplain''Dextomus
Just one thing....
Where are all these starter systems?
Um, I know the amarr one is Chaven.
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Onlay' Away
Flashpoint.
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Posted - 2008.08.29 21:53:00 -
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Wow, i didn't know i would catch so much flak for asking this question. I don't think many people paid attention to my reply(the third post). oh well, not worth quoting in a dead thread.
Thanks for those that answered my actual question.
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Tyr Vaantau
Amarr
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.08.29 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon
Originally by: Chaplain''Dextomus
Just one thing....
Where are all these starter systems?
Um, I know the amarr one is Chaven.
Or Emrayur.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.08.30 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chaplain''Dextomus
Just one thing....
Where are all these starter systems?
Um, EC-P8R is probably the biggest starter system, hundreds od n00bs usually.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.08.30 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zombiefly
Both of these are legit. But dont think that doing it to newbs wont **** someone off and either war dec you or suicide gank you.
The first one is actually against the rules, petition it if you want and find out.
The 2nd one, has been going on ever since miners whined that they needed a defense mechanism against jet-can thieves.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Federation Fleet
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Posted - 2008.08.30 09:17:00 -
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1. Fit a Really Big ****off ShipÖ.
2. Dock it in a noob system.
3. Get a rookie ship.
4. Undock it.
5. Steal from a can.
6. Get your ship asploded (be sure and make a lot of noise to distract- claim you'll file a petition, or better yet, a lawsuit. Keep them smacktalking.)
7. Dock your pod.
8. Undock and enjoy the bitter tears after you dissasemble their ship.
9. Give the loot to the newbs.
I miss anything?
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Immersive
Immersive Technology Solutions
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Posted - 2008.08.30 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jimer Lins
I miss anything?
10. Profit
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