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Stygian Knight	Posted - 2008.08.28 10:12:00 - [1] I am very young player, almoust 2 month old and so far i have seen that everything in EVE demands isk. Whatever you do they just steal your money. (books, ships, items, guns, ammo, even damned transactions... :) I have tried missions. Lvl 1 with good quallity agent makes decent money but it's a joke to real money. I have tried lvl 2 missions but they are just too hard and take too long time to finish with my character so i calculated that i get more money doing lvl 1 ones (much faster and much easier) After a while i have tried ratting (i live in low sec). I have found a system which is usually empty and have like 9 belts so my chances for Dread spawns are greater. This thing can make me even more money than missions but i always need to be on alert for any ship that comes in the system because i am easy target for everyone. And i always put my cruiser in stake (10-15 mill). In 4 days of ratting i only had one good loot (25 mil implant) I was very happy because that was the biggest money i have made so far. Finally we come to best thing so far. I operate in 4 linked systems. They are full of gate campers and a lot of bad people. Lot of wrecks are around and i have seen a lot of elite wrecks too. So i decided to try a different thing. I buyed a "Probe" - minm. frigate. And equipped it with 2x salvagers, mwd, small shield extender and 2x nanofiber. (200.000 isk total) So here is the deal, i just jump around where their usuall gate camps are and i salvage all those wrecks. Usually there is someone there but they cant be always on the spot, they have to dock up sometimes. They have tried to kill me more than 20 times but they failed. Since i have small sig radius and i warp out pretty quickly it's very hard to get me. Best thing is if you jump on the gate and wrecks are very close, i dont even need to jump trough, i can just salvage until they start targeting me. Or if the coast is clear, just mwd to a wreck, start salvaging and align to any station so i can warp out in any sight of trouble. Yesterday i made 70 milion in 2 hours of salvaging. I was yelling like crazy. All other ways of making money which i tried so far are ridiculous to this amount i earned yesterday. It's quite dangerous but it pays off sooo godly for a new character like i am. Please post any comments, suggestions or similar stories which will improve this kind of Isk earning. :)
Dana Su'ul Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.08.28 10:26:00 - [2] Edited by: Dana Su''ul on 28/08/2008 10:27:00 You find Lvl2's too hard, yet rat in 0.0? The mind boggles. But yes, knowing where (or with whom) to salvage can reap plenty of cash.
Dihania Gallente SniggWaffe	Posted - 2008.08.28 10:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Dana Su'ul Edited by: Dana Su''ul on 28/08/2008 10:27:00 You find Lvl2's too hard, yet rat in 0.0? The mind boggles. But yes, knowing where (or with whom) to salvage can reap plenty of cash. OP comprehension lacking... note: "I live in low sec" [hrhr] Sniggwaffe is recruiting. Visit channel "join sniggwaffe" in game.
Dana Su'ul Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.08.28 10:37:00 - [4] Consider myself suitably chastised - more tea Vicar?
ingenting 20th Legion Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:12:00 - [5] Good to hear you found something you like and that pays well! __________ Quote: Welcome to EVE, remember to insu BAAOOM... Told you, newb.
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:17:00 - [6] Nice to see new players finding a niche for themselves instead of seeing the scary pirates and shitting themselves all the way back to a mission hub. Personally though I've started making a point of salvaging the wrecks I leave, since the last time I lost my BS and came out with a profit when the winner didn't salvage the Sacrilege wreck nearby. Delicious capacitor consoles.
Adam Rauhar Infinite Horizons Unlimited Horizons	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:21:00 - [7] Nice one.... I thaught all noob players need a lot of TLC before they can become self sufficent and less... pathetic. I congratulate you on a profitable ninja path you have chosen. Not many do. Even less write about it. You seem quite capable to survive in losec now, my only advice would be to drop off loot as often as possible as you will get killed from time to time. And maybe train salvaging to 4 or 5 so you can get decent salvage from t2 wrecks. I think my best so far was 120 mil salvaged from a hisec command ship wreck If you will be intereted in joining a corp, look me up ingame and mention youre the ninja. Im terrible with names Adam.
cpt Mark	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:24:00 - [8] dude this is exactly what I did, but i couldn't salvage the wrecks... i just took the items from them. I made 40 mill in around 1.5 hours. and i was a week old =))). WHen i went to the market and saw one of the two guns were worth 10 million each I was so happy that it took me 10 minutes to sell them and i was just staring at the ISK...
Stygian Knight	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:29:00 - [9] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 28/08/2008 11:31:09 Whell everything that brings you money you must like :) I thought that ratting, actually chasing dread spawns, after i got my first and last 25 mil drop, is best way for new player. But if you look it on the other side - i put my cruiser in danger every time i go for them, i have always to be on alert and watch the scanner plus i have to kill the rats, and to salvage them. On the other hand, this is so much fun, having all those flashy people around in systems, knowing that they will be after you any time is somehow full of adrennaline, especially when you know that salvage target can bring you 1-60 mill. Sometimes you just find unlooted wrecks. Which is also very cool. And the best point is that you gamble 200.000 isk. I am still in question, should i use 2x overdrive instead of 2x nano. I have 340 capacity (as i can remember) and that is usually enough for any loot. In certain situations i can always put expanded cargohold to get to 550 capacity. And all is T1 equipement because you actually scream to everyone "shoot me" :)
Stygian Knight	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Adam Rauhar You seem quite capable to survive in losec now, my only advice would be to drop off loot as often as possible as you will get killed from time to time. And maybe train salvaging to 4 or 5 so you can get decent salvage from t2 wrecks. What i usually do is just after i get salvage/loot i always dock up, leave all in station and head out again. So basicly i am flying with empty ship all of the time. And when the party is over, i just go to station and start to organize/reprocess/sell/keep and all that nice stuff :) ------------------------------ I forgot to mention, i salvaged full lvl 4 mission yesterday and i earned 5 mill total. It took around 45min for that action. Corp mate had to kill all and i was flying around gathering loot and salvaging all. That is pretty cool but it's not always able to be done because you have to wait for somebody who is willing to play lvl 4 mission. (they usually do it for the security - status or corporation status so they usually have no real interest in loot / wrecks).
cpt Mark	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:39:00 - [11] Risk = Reward
Tierie Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:44:00 - [12] Originally by: Stygian Knight Originally by: Adam Rauhar You seem quite capable to survive in losec now, my only advice would be to drop off loot as often as possible as you will get killed from time to time. And maybe train salvaging to 4 or 5 so you can get decent salvage from t2 wrecks. What i usually do is just after i get salvage/loot i always dock up, leave all in station and head out again. So basicly i am flying with empty ship all of the time. And when the party is over, i just go to station and start to organize/reprocess/sell/keep and all that nice stuff :) ------------------------------ I forgot to mention, i salvaged full lvl 4 mission yesterday and i earned 5 mill total. It took around 45min for that action. Corp mate had to kill all and i was flying around gathering loot and salvaging all. That is pretty cool but it's not always able to be done because you have to wait for somebody who is willing to play lvl 4 mission. (they usually do it for the security - status or corporation status so they usually have no real interest in loot / wrecks). Why don't you, y'know, try level fours then? Train up for a battleship and fit it well. Keep eve-survival closer to you than your genitalia and you'll be fine. I don't pretend that i'm any good at the minute; i'm running two ravens on two accounts, one 9mill sp one 3mill sp, each tech1 fitted. Rewards and bounties give me about, what 15-20 mill? After that, or during the mission, I bring the third account in; cormorant with 4x salvager 4x tractor beam. Salvage salvage salvage, log over and get hauler. Sell it all. At least 40, maybe 55-60 mill. --- Table, you have four legs. Four legs like a dog. But you are not a dog! Cunning table.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Tierie Why don't you, y'know, try level fours then? Train up for a battleship and fit it well. Keep eve-survival closer to you than your genitalia and you'll be fine. I don't pretend that i'm any good at the minute; i'm running two ravens on two accounts, one 9mill sp one 3mill sp, each tech1 fitted. Rewards and bounties give me about, what 15-20 mill? After that, or during the mission, I bring the third account in; cormorant with 4x salvager 4x tractor beam. Salvage salvage salvage, log over and get hauler. Sell it all. At least 40, maybe 55-60 mill. I have a better idea, Knight. Why don't you come join Suddenly Ninjas, and we'll scan down Tierie's Missions and make her cry? Mission Runners? In My C&P? It sounds like you're having fun, which is the main point of why you're doing what you're doing. If you want to make some more coin, make Mission Runners cry and whine to the point of getting into a spitting, swearing frenzy, come give us a try. (We've been wardecced since week one, so we're doing something right!) It will definitely give you more profit, with a little less risk (i.e. not everybody can shoot you) but the tears are what make our lives whole. We're Recruiting!
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:06:00 - [14] omg.. don't tell him to go run missions after he's actually begun doing something fun in EVE... To the OP, nice work! There is a corporation called "Suddenly Ninjas" which breaks into people's missions and salvages all their wrecks underneath their noses, which you might be interested in. GL!
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Nexus Kinnon To the OP, nice work! There is a corporation called "Suddenly Ninjas" which breaks into people's missions and salvages all their wrecks underneath their noses, which you might be interested in. GL! I love you, Nexus Kinnon. Don't ever change. (Does this mean I ninja'd your point?) We're Recruiting!
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Nexus Kinnon To the OP, nice work! There is a corporation called "Suddenly Ninjas" which breaks into people's missions and salvages all their wrecks underneath their noses, which you might be interested in. GL! I love you, Nexus Kinnon. Don't ever change. (Does this mean I ninja'd your point?) haha, speak of the devil...
Zantei	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:11:00 - [17] Win thread. Adds to list of money making schemes [Notes that station trading remains at the bottom] ------------------------------------------
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:54:00 - [18] /me does a double take. Nubbin... taking initiative and going into lowsec...? Stygian, thank you for restoring my faith in the new playerbase. I was beginning to thing they would never take any risks to make some ISK. Keep skilling up for the things you enjoy with your newfound iskies, try different things (I suggest blowing things up on occasion, making those wrecks you are salvaging is quite fun).
Sirius Problem Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.28 13:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Stygian Knight I am still in question, should i use 2x overdrive instead of 2x nano. While overdrives and nanos contribute to your top speed, you might want to consider using an istab (inertial stabilizer) or two. The reason being that it will give your ship more agility, allowing you to get into warp faster. Considering your "profession", quick warping may be quite desirable. Note that an istab will increase your sig radius. Play around with the three modules to find the balance you like/need. ---- Train more. Whine less.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 13:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Sirius Problem While overdrives and nanos contribute to your top speed, you might want to consider using an istab (inertial stabilizer) or two. The reason being that it will give your ship more agility, allowing you to get into warp faster. Considering your "profession", quick warping may be quite desirable. Note that an istab will increase your sig radius. Play around with the three modules to find the balance you like/need. I usually go with an OD/Nano combo, as the Nano does still give you a bonus to your align time, without the sig radius hit of the Istab. I find, if you're using a fast frig (the right ship for the right job) that this is the best combo, even if you start getting shot at. I've personally tanked 3-4 Mission BS's for a good few minutes before needing to warp out in my Executioner, however, they (of course) didn't have webs or a point that I'd ever need to contend with. We're Recruiting!
Thule Cult	Posted - 2008.08.28 14:21:00 - [21] a good salvage frig in low sec, heron? and modules to be able to salvage and survive?
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 14:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Tierie Why don't you, y'know, try level fours then? Train up for a battleship and fit it well. Keep eve-survival closer to you than your genitalia and you'll be fine. I don't pretend that i'm any good at the minute; i'm running two ravens on two accounts, one 9mill sp one 3mill sp, each tech1 fitted. Rewards and bounties give me about, what 15-20 mill? After that, or during the mission, I bring the third account in; cormorant with 4x salvager 4x tractor beam. Salvage salvage salvage, log over and get hauler. Sell it all. At least 40, maybe 55-60 mill. I have a better idea, Knight. Why don't you come join Suddenly Ninjas, and we'll scan down Tierie's Missions and make her cry? Mission Runners? In My C&P? It sounds like you're having fun, which is the main point of why you're doing what you're doing. If you want to make some more coin, make Mission Runners cry and whine to the point of getting into a spitting, swearing frenzy, come give us a try. (We've been wardecced since week one, so we're doing something right!) It will definitely give you more profit, with a little less risk (i.e. not everybody can shoot you) but the tears are what make our lives whole. Stop trying to steal my newbie! We generate wrecks on the gates/belts for him to clean up! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Dana Su'ul Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.08.28 14:49:00 - [23] Edited by: Dana Su''ul on 28/08/2008 14:51:08 Ooooo, so much inspiration - I also want to 'harvest' the goodies left behind from low-sec ratters/pvp and fatten my wallet The main points are: -ultra paranoia, so two WCS's -light & fast with small signiture, so AB not MWD -no combat, just salvage -no tractor beam, as wrecks belong to others -cheap, 'cos things do go wrong [Atron, Zippy] 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 1MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Salvager I Salvager I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Keep aligned, be wary, reap the rewards. A cargo hold of 125m3 is of no concern as salvage is only 0.01m3 each. Nerfing my targeting range with x2 WCS's is fine as you have to be within 5k of the wreck anywhoo. My only concern was capacitor usage - not enough fit for either a battery or booster, so recharger was the only other option. Thoughts?
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Omarvelous Stop trying to steal my newbie! aww I want a pet newbie now too.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:08:00 - [25] Originally by: Dana Su'ul [Atron, Zippy] 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 1MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Salvager I Salvager I If you stick with the Atron, try this fitting: Lows: Overdrive Injector System II, Nanofiber Internal Structure II Mids: Small Capacitor Battery II, 1MN Afterburner II Highs: Salvager I, Salvager I It gives you more speed, which is at the heart of the Ninja trade, and allows for the use of the Cap Battery you should have. We're Recruiting!
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:08:00 - [26] Originally by: Dana Su'ul Edited by: Dana Su''ul on 28/08/2008 14:51:08 Ooooo, so much inspiration - I also want to 'harvest' the goodies left behind from low-sec ratters/pvp and fatten my wallet The main points are: -ultra paranoia, so two WCS's -light & fast with small signiture, so AB not MWD -no combat, just salvage -no tractor beam, as wrecks belong to others -cheap, 'cos things do go wrong [Atron, Zippy] 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I 1MN Afterburner II Cap Recharger II Salvager I Salvager I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Keep aligned, be wary, reap the rewards. A cargo hold of 125m3 is of no concern as salvage is only 0.01m3 each. Nerfing my targeting range with x2 WCS's is fine as you have to be within 5k of the wreck anywhoo. My only concern was capacitor usage - not enough fit for either a battery or booster, so recharger was the only other option. Thoughts? I can't believe I'm helping ninja salvagers... grumbles about them stealing some of ours but a WCS does you absolutely no good when someone gets out the Dic...
Uhr Zylex Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:14:00 - [27] You found a good, fun way to make isk. Don't mind the flamers, good on ya mate
Nocturnal Avenger Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Stygian Knight Please post any comments, suggestions or similar stories which will improve this kind of Isk earning. :) I think you've got balls and it is very refreshing to read a story like this, instead of the usual whines. - Carebear Pirate -
Inara Subaka Caldari the united	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I think you've got balls and it is very refreshing to read a story like this, instead of the usual whines. /me agrees Heck, you might consider a safer (and more profitable) alternative to lowsec pirate salvage... learn up some scanning and get the lvl 4 mission runners salvage (just dont' lootz their cans or they might get ****y and shoot you). I'm actually considering doing that with an alt of mine, if for no other reason than to get some tears, tears are such a wonderful thing in Eve.
Heartcarver Goat Gangbangers	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:32:00 - [30] Originally by: Inara Subaka Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger I think you've got balls and it is very refreshing to read a story like this, instead of the usual whines. /me agrees Heck, you might consider a safer (and more profitable) alternative to lowsec pirate salvage... learn up some scanning and get the lvl 4 mission runners salvage (just dont' lootz their cans or they might get ****y and shoot you). I'm actually considering doing that with an alt of mine, if for no other reason than to get some tears, tears are such a wonderful thing in Eve. You let them shoot you, then come back in a bigger ship, and get their nice faction mods for more iskies "The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his"
Salvigarius	Posted - 2008.08.28 15:38:00 - [31] Is there any salvaging corps? just started eve and salvaging others wrecks seems fun and hearing all the crying.
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.28 16:27:00 - [32] Originally by: Salvigarius Is there any salvaging corps? just started eve and salvaging others wrecks seems fun and hearing all the crying. read the ****ing thread
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 16:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Salvigarius Is there any salvaging corps? just started eve and salvaging others wrecks seems fun and hearing all the crying. No. None whatsoever. Originally by: Nexus Kinnon read the ****ing thread This. We're Recruiting!
Vaell'or Kurtanz Gallente Sick Cruel and Unusual Methods	Posted - 2008.08.28 17:53:00 - [34] Suddenly Ninja's are the Corp flying the flag for us salvage reclaimation officers everywhere, simple as. And remember, it's the tears that count, oh the wonderful tears. You'll experience Smack like no-one else in EVE, and you know what, it's beautiful!
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:14:00 - [35] Originally by: Vaell'or Kurtanz Suddenly Ninja's are the Corp flying the flag for us salvage reclaimation officers everywhere, simple as. And remember, it's the tears that count, oh the wonderful tears. You'll experience Smack like no-one else in EVE, and you know what, it's beautiful! My name is Tchell Dahhn, and I approve this message! We're Recruiting!
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:17:00 - [36] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 28/08/2008 18:18:22 Originally by: cpt Mark dude this is exactly what I did, but i couldn't salvage the wrecks... i just took the items from them. I made 40 mill in around 1.5 hours. and i was a week old =))). WHen i went to the market and saw one of the two guns were worth 10 million each I was so happy that it took me 10 minutes to sell them and i was just staring at the ISK... same here, i was alos about week old when i took my first steps into low security, i jump into low sec expecting to get slaughtered by a pirate or something, and nothing, excetp 3 large wrecks on the gate, i decided, eh, why not, i go, in two of the wrecks, it was only cap booster 800 charges, however in another wreck, i found 6 LARGE T2 guns, i immediately looted that can, made probably 20-30million off of it and ignorance really is bliss, about 3 weeks after this, and making quite a few jumps to low sec, i went on the help channel (forgot why) but i went on the help channel, and saw someone talking about a gate camp, i ask : what's a gate camp? then, they explain what it is like two days later looking to loot some low sec wrecks, i run straight into a gate camp ever since, i hit gate camps like probably 75% of the time i jump into low sec Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:19:00 - [37] Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 28/08/2008 18:19:26 Originally by: Vaell'or Kurtanz Suddenly Ninja's are the Corp flying the flag for us salvage reclaimation officers everywhere, simple as. And remember, it's the tears that count, oh the wonderful tears. You'll experience Smack like no-one else in EVE, and you know what, it's beautiful! lol Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Jezala Repo Industries R.E.P.O.	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:34:00 - [38] Well my hat's off to the OP. He did exactly what any new player should do when faced with the challenge of making isk without being bored by it. He experimented and tried multiple approaches, then he optimized his efforts, and then he wasn't afraid to try something new. Kudos to you sir and have a good time.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2008.08.28 18:45:00 - [39] I just posted a thread about the virtues of the Vigil as a ninja salvaging ship. Normally I use an executioner but Vigil has some benefits worth noting. Your probe of course is good for cargo space if you're taking loot, but if you just want salvage parts (0.01m3 each) a faster ship like an Executioner or Vigil is best. Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
Grandis Fustis Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:22:00 - [40] stygian post your corp ticker bud so they know where you come from DESTRY'S LOUNGE P.S My noobs can beat up your noobs anyday :P
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:28:00 - [41] Originally by: Grandis Fustis stygian post your corp ticker bud so they know where you come from DESTRY'S LOUNGE Ah! So that's why I got a warning! I'm not looking to poach anyone's Members, so don't worry. If people just happen to join our Corporation to become Ninjas, I can't really control that. We're Recruiting!
Grandis Fustis Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Grandis Fustis stygian post your corp ticker bud so they know where you come from DESTRY'S LOUNGE Ah! So that's why I got a warning! I'm not looking to poach anyone's Members, so don't worry. If people just happen to join our Corporation to become Ninjas, I can't really control that. Not worried my noobs like killing you ninjas so they wont leave and if they do goodon them why dont you guys come ninja in akora i will be waiting
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Grandis Fustis why dont you guys come ninja in akora i will be waiting Sounds good. I'll just EvEMail your CEO and get set to Blue first. I hear he's a fan. You're good, but your not 'Omarvelous'. We're Recruiting!
Grandis Fustis Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:44:00 - [44] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Grandis Fustis why dont you guys come ninja in akora i will be waiting Sounds good. I'll just EvEMail your CEO and get set to Blue first. I hear he's a fan. You're good, but your not 'Omarvelous'. try it i will set you red for lols and stroke omars ego all you want but remember its been me and omar since day one
Grandis Fustis Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 19:45:00 - [45] DONT FORGET TO UPDATE YOUR CLONE!!!!!!!!!
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.08.28 20:30:00 - [46] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Grandis Fustis why dont you guys come ninja in akora i will be waiting Sounds good. I'll just EvEMail your CEO and get set to Blue first. I hear he's a fan. You're good, but your not 'Omarvelous'. hehehhe good show. We actually have inter-corp rivalries on salvaging wrecks after fights (there's one particular director that's a salvaging *****). Then again, it helps keep the pvp ships well rigged. I'll leave some tech 2 wrecks on the Reisen gate just for your guys __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.28 20:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Omarvelous (there's one particular director that's a salvaging ****). ...and his name is? Sounds like a perfect candidate for our* Corp! Originally by: Omarvelous I'll leave some tech 2 wrecks on the Reisen gate just for your guys That's awesome, thanks! Once I'm done my CovOps training, I'll be right over. We're Recruiting!
Rhiaden Caldari B.T.L	Posted - 2008.08.29 10:09:00 - [48] Edited by: Rhiaden on 29/08/2008 10:12:01 Edited by: Rhiaden on 29/08/2008 10:10:17 Hmm, this thread made me divert my current plans to giving this a try, however, as i am still saving cash for stuff (less than a month old right now, and keep spending my cash trying out new fittings ), and i fly a kessy, i wanted to combine something i can use for missions/ratting with something for nipping in, retrieving salvage, and nipping out...so here is my variaton on Tchells atron, criticism/suggestions welcomed: Low Slots: Nanofiber internal structure ii, overdrive injector system ii Medium Slots:Small cap battery ii, (only for salvaging runs, not fitted for missions/ratting/general annoyance) Cold-Gas arcjet thrusters (will swap to catalyzed one when i have the skills), Langour drive disrupter High Slots: Salvager i Malkuth missile launcher x 2 Limos rocket launcher i wouldnt normally have mixed rockets + missiles, but, couldnt get 3 x missiles on there, and for ratting and general level 1 stuff, rockets make it too squishy, if i am just off for some salvaging, then i would swap out the 2nd missile launcher for another salvager.
Kano Sekor Amarr The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.29 10:41:00 - [49] Why cant recycling IRL be as fun as salvaging? Then Suddenly Ninjas whould come and ninja salvage my trash and make money of it, it whould be awesome. ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rhiaden Caldari B.T.L	Posted - 2008.08.29 10:59:00 - [50] i like your idea, who do we petition irl to get this to happen (aside from opening up our trash cans to freetarians)
Stygian Knight	Posted - 2008.08.29 10:59:00 - [51] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 29/08/2008 10:59:55 Originally by: Rhiaden Edited by: Rhiaden on 29/08/2008 10:12:01 Edited by: Rhiaden on 29/08/2008 10:10:17 Hmm, this thread made me divert my current plans to giving this a try, however, as i am still saving cash for stuff (less than a month old right now, and keep spending my cash trying out new fittings ), and i fly a kessy, i wanted to combine something i can use for missions/ratting with something for nipping in, retrieving salvage, and nipping out...so here is my variaton on Tchells atron, criticism/suggestions welcomed: Low Slots: Nanofiber internal structure ii, overdrive injector system ii Medium Slots:Small cap battery ii, (only for salvaging runs, not fitted for missions/ratting/general annoyance) Cold-Gas arcjet thrusters (will swap to catalyzed one when i have the skills), Langour drive disrupter High Slots: Salvager i Malkuth missile launcher x 2 Limos rocket launcher i wouldnt normally have mixed rockets + missiles, but, couldnt get 3 x missiles on there, and for ratting and general level 1 stuff, rockets make it too squishy, if i am just off for some salvaging, then i would swap out the 2nd missile launcher for another salvager. - dont use guns, just salvagers - dont use T2 modules, just basic cheap ones - Dont use expencive ship, just cheap one - Expect to die in any time so your losses (ship + modules) are minimum - When you salvage something valuable or steal cargo imideatly dock and leave cargo in station then return in action. - try to find a hot spots (some place where usual gang goes for gate camp) - operate in 3-5 linked systems for bigger % of wrecks, and bookmark some places which you find to be important in surviving. I hope this little thingies help
Rhiaden Caldari B.T.L	Posted - 2008.08.29 11:06:00 - [52] Originally by: Stygian Knight Edited by: Stygian Knight on 29/08/2008 10:59:55 - dont use guns, just salvagers - dont use T2 modules, just basic cheap ones - Dont use expencive ship, just cheap one - Expect to die in any time so your losses (ship + modules) are minimum - When you salvage something valuable or steal cargo imideatly dock and leave cargo in station then return in action. - try to find a hot spots (some place where usual gang goes for gate camp) - operate in 3-5 linked systems for bigger % of wrecks, and bookmark some places which you find to be important in surviving. I hope this little thingies help Thanks, will play about with fittings and look at my maps during downtime. Looking forward to giving this a go, because, mission running is possibly below going to the dentist on my list of fun stuff to do
cpt Mark	Posted - 2008.08.29 11:12:00 - [53] Edited by: cpt Mark on 29/08/2008 11:12:36 Originally by: Kano Sekor Why cant recycling IRL be as fun as salvaging? Then Suddenly Ninjas whould come and ninja salvage my trash and make money of it, it whould be awesome. because u don't get a fat juicy pay day at the end. and anyway, if u leave a washing machine or similar at the dump.. it wont be there for very long.
Tierie Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.29 11:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn Originally by: Tierie Why don't you, y'know, try level fours then? Train up for a battleship and fit it well. Keep eve-survival closer to you than your genitalia and you'll be fine. I don't pretend that i'm any good at the minute; i'm running two ravens on two accounts, one 9mill sp one 3mill sp, each tech1 fitted. Rewards and bounties give me about, what 15-20 mill? After that, or during the mission, I bring the third account in; cormorant with 4x salvager 4x tractor beam. Salvage salvage salvage, log over and get hauler. Sell it all. At least 40, maybe 55-60 mill. I have a better idea, Knight. Why don't you come join Suddenly Ninjas, and we'll scan down Tierie's Missions and make her cry? Mission Runners? In My C&P? It sounds like you're having fun, which is the main point of why you're doing what you're doing. If you want to make some more coin, make Mission Runners cry and whine to the point of getting into a spitting, swearing frenzy, come give us a try. (We've been wardecced since week one, so we're doing something right!) It will definitely give you more profit, with a little less risk (i.e. not everybody can shoot you) but the tears are what make our lives whole. I'm in aramachi<3 --- Table, you have four legs. Four legs like a dog. But you are not a dog! Cunning table.
Voodoo Mistross Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2008.08.29 11:45:00 - [55] Well done to the OP, Wish I had had the forthought as a noob to accomplish what you have ...I would have a lot more iskys now ______________________________________________________ There is BLOOD in the water
Tyson Gallane Caldari Political Warfare Executive	Posted - 2008.08.29 12:42:00 - [56] Originally by: Kano Sekor Why cant recycling IRL be as fun as salvaging? Then Suddenly Ninjas whould come and ninja salvage my trash and make money of it, it whould be awesome. Someone ninja'd my wheeliebin at home last week. Bastards. T.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.08.29 12:49:00 - [57] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn I have a better idea, Knight. Why don't you come join Suddenly Ninjas, and we'll scan down Tierie's Missions and make her cry? Mission Runners? In My C&P? It sounds like you're having fun, which is the main point of why you're doing what you're doing. If you want to make some more coin, make Mission Runners cry and whine to the point of getting into a spitting, swearing frenzy, come give us a try. (We've been wardecced since week one, so we're doing something right!) It will definitely give you more profit, with a little less risk (i.e. not everybody can shoot you) but the tears are what make our lives whole. This, really. How could someone possibly suggest a profession as boring and mindlessly tedius as mission running? ;) In C&P? Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Saint Mikkel	Posted - 2008.08.29 16:05:00 - [58] I spent a week after I finished all my scanning skills for exploration doing a little ninja salvaging. Let me offer a few notes. If you can afford it, running 2 accounts really speeds this up. I would scan with one toon, and salvage with another so that I didnt have to waste time running my prober back to station and switching to a fast frigate salvager. Base out of a main trading/mission running hub. Constant war dec's in empire means ton's of T2 salvage sitting right out side your station or on the gates in your system. Don't join Suddenly Ninjas or any other corp. If you look at SN's killboard, they loose a ton of money in lost ships from war decs. Stay in the newbie corp and make your own chat channel for keeping in touch with fellow salvagers. You are now untouchable by all the ticked off mission runners, unless you loot their rat wrecks. Don't smack talk in local. No one likes people who act like smart a 14yo's. At some point in time you may decide to switch careers and join a traditional corp. People keep lists of the ahats they run into, just waiting for them to join a corp so they can be war dec'd. End result is the mission runners hunt you down, or cause enough trouble for your new corp and they kick you. Go for the battleship wrecks first, they are the money. A lot of time I see mission runner grouped with a corp salvager. He'll sit there going for whatever's closest, usually npc frigates, while I go straight for the money. Don't worry about the M runners warping out on you. They always thinks this works. If you are in a small fast frig, and there are no scrambling frigs left, just keep going for the wrecks, make a book mark, and check back every now and then to see if they come back. This ticks them off. If they bring a corp salvager with 4 tractor beams along, dont be afraid to get right up next to him. I usually sit about 3km off so I get the first cycle with the salvager. This reallyyyy ticks them off. There is one exception to the "Don't loot the wrecks" rule. My biggest single mission haul was looting a gallente BS that got popped in the mission while his raven buddy was sitting 20km away. Guy had a bunch of T2 mods and a crap ton of salvage and tags that dropped. Your in a fast frigate, if your not already targeted, get up next to the wreck and figure out what you want from the loot, loot it and warp. Dock up for 15 mins and wait for your aggression timer to expire. Go for the player ship loot.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.29 17:12:00 - [59] Originally by: Saint Mikkel Don't join Suddenly Ninjas or any other corp. If you look at SN's killboard, they loose a ton of money in lost ships from war decs. Stay in the newbie corp and make your own chat channel for keeping in touch with fellow salvagers. You are now untouchable by all the ticked off mission runners, unless you loot their rat wrecks. This is completely a viable option, and you have the right to your opinion. Our Members do get involved with wars, however, with the fact that we have 80+ Members now, those killboard numbers are changing. We have a dedicated Combat Fleet, and we live by the rule "only fly what you can afford to lose". What we have created, and what you seem to miss, is the Corporation that is respected for having the balls to accept that yes, we will be wardecced. We make no bones about it. We've been extremely popular since we started, and our Members choose not to hide in NPC Corps, just because it's safer. This is EvE Online, and if you want to fly like that, you might as well fit a ship up for Mining or Mission Running. It's been said for numerous reasons, but it still holds true. If you want to experience all that EvE Online has to offer, get out of an NPC Corp and into a Player Corp. You don't have to become a Ninja Salvager, and you don't have to join Suddenly Ninjas, but you won't truly reap the benefits of this game until you join a Player Corp. We're Recruiting!
Nexus Kinnon A Few Good Men.	Posted - 2008.08.29 17:42:00 - [60] Originally by: Tchell Dahhn you won't truly reap the benefits of this game until you join a Player Corp. QFT, there's not much else to say on the matter.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2008.08.29 19:00:00 - [61] Edited by: Joe Starbreaker on 29/08/2008 19:00:34 I have no respect for cowards who hide in NPC corps while ninja salvaging, scamming, pirating, etc. You are not ninjas, you are villains like attorneys or the liberal media or something. A ninja does not hide behind laws meant to protect the peasants. Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.
Steph Wing Gallente Wingnuts Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.30 21:36:00 - [62] Might seem a little silly, but what about using an inty for ninjasalvage? Low sig radius and high speed ftw.
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.08.30 22:02:00 - [63] Originally by: Steph Wing Might seem a little silly, but what about using an inty for ninjasalvage? Low sig radius and high speed ftw. Not silly at all. In fact, it's my next ship. We're Recruiting!
Corstaad Minmatar Vardr ok Lidskjalv Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.30 22:50:00 - [64] Nice to hear you figured out EvE. In all honesty you can find alot better ways to make isk in this game then running missions or paying for a alt. Its not about isk/hr as some would like to think.
Heyte	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:20:00 - [65] Edited by: Heyte on 30/08/2008 23:23:48 Originally by: Stygian Knight I am very young player, almoust 2 month old and so far i have seen that everything in EVE demands isk. Whatever you do they just steal your money. (books, ships, items, guns, ammo, even damned transactions... :) I have tried missions. Lvl 1 with good quallity agent makes decent money but it's a joke to real money. I have tried lvl 2 missions but they are just too hard and take too long time to finish with my character so i calculated that i get more money doing lvl 1 ones (much faster and much easier) After a while i have tried ratting (i live in low sec). I have found a system which is usually empty and have like 9 belts so my chances for Dread spawns are greater. This thing can make me even more money than missions but i always need to be on alert for any ship that comes in the system because i am easy target for everyone. And i always put my cruiser in stake (10-15 mill). In 4 days of ratting i only had one good loot (25 mil implant) I was very happy because that was the biggest money i have made so far. Finally we come to best thing so far. I operate in 4 linked systems. They are full of gate campers and a lot of bad people. Lot of wrecks are around and i have seen a lot of elite wrecks too. So i decided to try a different thing. I buyed a "Probe" - minm. frigate. And equipped it with 2x salvagers, mwd, small shield extender and 2x nanofiber. (200.000 isk total) So here is the deal, i just jump around where their usuall gate camps are and i salvage all those wrecks. Usually there is someone there but they cant be always on the spot, they have to dock up sometimes. They have tried to kill me more than 20 times but they failed. Since i have small sig radius and i warp out pretty quickly it's very hard to get me. Best thing is if you jump on the gate and wrecks are very close, i dont even need to jump trough, i can just salvage until they start targeting me. Or if the coast is clear, just mwd to a wreck, start salvaging and align to any station so i can warp out in any sight of trouble. Yesterday i made 70 milion in 2 hours of salvaging. I was yelling like crazy. All other ways of making money which i tried so far are ridiculous to this amount i earned yesterday. It's quite dangerous but it pays off sooo godly for a new character like i am. Please post any comments, suggestions or similar stories which will improve this kind of Isk earning. :) Now all you need is to find a way to get your cargohold larger. Perhaps fitting a dessie? Pay attention to the inertia. Originally by: Joe Starbreaker Edited by: Joe Starbreaker on 29/08/2008 19:00:34 I have no respect for cowards who hide in NPC corps while ninja salvaging, scamming, pirating, etc. You are not ninjas, you are villains like attorneys or the liberal media or something. A ninja does not hide behind laws meant to protect the peasants. Meh, I make more money in a PC, trading (made 117m in one or two days last I checked). Which doesn't make sense, I know, but my character is also very old and very lazy.
Joe Starbreaker Starbreaker Frigateers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:46:00 - [66] Originally by: Steph Wing Might seem a little silly, but what about using an inty for ninjasalvage? Low sig radius and high speed ftw. I've been thinking about training for a Hyena for this... Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto All piracy is built upon honoring one's word.

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