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ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo The simple solution is a mass genocide of EVE players (ingame). Grief them out of the game and you'll get the attention you miss. can we start with the chribacrybabies first? Personally I would prefer the devs do their work then hang around on the forums. Devblog seems fine, let us know what they are working on. People can then spam the forum and devs might check it out to see what people are saying and suggesting. If people are screaming at a dev when he posts, wtf makes you think he would want to talk to such a bunch of dirty ***s again? If you can't act normal with a dev then you should be slammed with some kind of temp ban on the forum and then in game if its needed for repeat idio...i mean offenders. That is why the devblog is going to be their choice for communicating to the playerbase. They can say what they want but not have to put up with your bullshit. Its gotta be a bit annoying to have 100 idiots spamming stupid crap such as the chribpa thread and getting rules bent for him. If i was a dev id have ***slapped anyone questioning my authortah with a temp ban for a day from the forum at least. Rhinos rule with an iron fist and leave the velvet glove for your mom to give us a HJ as you whine But feel lucky im not a dev. They dont get paid to take your bullshit, they dont get paid to do favors for anyone, they aren't DJs and take requests. People crying and screaming about devs not talking to them on 1 on 1 basis needs to get their head checked and their egos deflated. None of you suckas is worth a dev's time,especially in my eyes. I want those devs working like good little elfs hammering out a better game for my damn pleasure. They should be treated like a bad mimtard when they try to screw around on the forum by the giant brain in a jar that keeps ccp buzzing along. In the words of Devo,"WHIP IT, WHIP IT GOOD!!!!" seriously how many things do you buy and get special attention from those in charge of making it? I know if i got special attention from directors of some movies id crack em upside the head or chew em out for not having the lead actress show more then a bit of sideboob. If the old dude that ran Wendy's was still around id have wanted to break a kneecap of his if he didn't refund the $9 i got charged for a subpar fast food meal and hiring someone that barely speaks english to take my order. Now if i could get ahold of smedly .....well lets just say he would be in to much pain to cry, if you want to see a failstate of an mmo company go check out sony online "entertainment" and their president, with all the effectiveness of vincent fox and jimmy carter all rolled into one.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:38:00 - [32] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damage nerf, warp to zero, reduced price of cloning, jump clones etc; the list is filled with 'features' created in order to stop people from being discoured to continue to play on after they loose their stuff. Actually WTZ was added to remove bookmarks, everyone with half a brain had WTZ anyway. And close prices were originally set back when no-one needed the higher end ones, I think they also introduced higher-end clones at the same time? Just saying. - DesuSigs
Schani Kratnorr x13	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:40:00 - [33] Agree, the forums are done. Ban Goons from game and forum and be done with it. CSM has flawed conseptual design - paying customers NEVER know what's good for them. Also allowing ******s like Goons in is just wrong, as they do not have any interest in playing their assigned part. With 200K+ players/accounts things are bound to be broken. I do not think forums are the right way to go with a community of this size. More moderation would help. Too many posters get around the "no alts" rule, and WAY too many off-topic one-liner posts are allowed to linger. Quality is suffering and a good 30% of posts can be easily labeled "ignore". "Suggestion" posts epedemic spreading to other forums is a good example of what the moderators should be concerned about. If good ideas arent posted in the right place, we wont ever get to see them in-game.
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damage nerf, warp to zero, reduced price of cloning, jump clones etc; the list is filled with 'features' created in order to stop people from being discoured to continue to play on after they loose their stuff. Actually WTZ was added to remove bookmarks, everyone with half a brain had WTZ anyway. Hm, no. You had WTZ for some (few) regions and usually only from 1 particular direction. That's a huge difference to WTZ as it is now (warp to gate/station at 0 from anywhere). WTZ was a good addition anyhow in my opinion, but it would have been better with a much larger universe because nowdays you can roam 100 jumps easily. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Glengrant TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:44:00 - [35] What's wrong with this forum section cannot be fixed by CCP. Nobody can. It's the therapy room for the crazy raging fringe of the Eve community. They vent, they whine, they are unstoppable. Oh and welcome to the 6th year of predicting Eves doom. ;-) You're in the fine company of people being false about Eves situation and impending downfall since almost day 1. There's nothing new - people have been whining and venting since the very first BS was built and for some reason they all tend to think that their pet peeves are universal in importance and acceptance and surely a sign of the final days of Eve. I'm looking forward to the 10th year of Eves impending doom. ;-) --- ISK BUYER = LOOSER EVE TV- Bring it back!
Mortok Tristan	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:47:00 - [36] Originally by: Evelgrivion Believe me, despite what the marketing department wants people to believe, things are not all well in Iceland. You have any proof of this ?
Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:48:00 - [37] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 28/08/2008 11:48:45 I mean seriously, if CCP reverses its decisions because a single pilot whines about it on the forums, what are we coming to? Edit: And his cult following "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died."

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:49:00 - [38] hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark

LaVista Vista	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:52:00 - [39] Originally by: CCP Zulupark hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark Ohhai. Whuts goin' on in here?
Evelgrivion Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:55:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Zulupark hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark Zulu: Are you referring to arguments for/against whether there's a problem? Just a bit confused on that regard.
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:56:00 - [41] Originally by: CCP Zulupark Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. What decides CCP's perception of the state of the game, the amount of subscribers? Seems a bit EA-ish to me. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:57:00 - [42] Originally by: CCP Zulupark hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark Threadpoint killer My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:58:00 - [43] Originally by: Evelgrivion Zulu: Are you referring to arguments for/against whether there's a problem? Just a bit confused on that regard. Haha, yeah I was a bit vague. I'm just looking at this thread and trying to get a pulse on what the general perception is (according to the forums only obviously) among players and what arguments they have for/against their opinion.

Malcanis Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:58:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Zulupark hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark Ah, so the relentless deprecation of non-consensual empire PvP, the greatly decreased frequency of dev-blogs and the near-disappearance of the devs from the fourms are all just in my imagination? That is a relief. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Schani Kratnorr x13	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: CCP Zulupark Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. What decides CCP's perception of the state of the game, the amount of subscribers? Seems a bit EA-ish to me. And I might add that this point of view usually means you never notice the collapse of your brand before it is too late.

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:59:00 - [46] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: CCP Zulupark Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. What decides CCP's perception of the state of the game, the amount of subscribers? Seems a bit EA-ish to me. Design has always been made with the goal of "making something fun/cool/awesome", nothing more nothing less.

Glengrant TOHA Heavy Industries	Posted - 2008.08.28 11:59:00 - [47] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Damage nerf, warp to zero, reduced price of cloning, jump clones etc; the list is filled with 'features' created in order to stop people from being discoured to continue to play on after they loose their stuff. I'm so tired of people repeating the same BS again and again - without putting any thought in it. * Damage nerf I just checked - I can still deal damge. Quite a lot of it actually. No problem here. * warp to zero That replaced a zillion stupid BMs. Everybody who was serious had wt0-BMs for every route he needed. Meaning we already had WT0. So you mainly could get uninformed newbies - proud of that? And you still can find people being careless even with WT0. You want to catch somebody? Put in some honest effort and place a bubble - or scan the system and find them ratting or mining. Just sitting at a gate and shooting at people who didn't know better and had to crawl 15 km? That's what you whine about? Sounds downright carebearish to me. Also the introduction of bubbles meant that the 15 km distance was no longer needed to have fight zones. * reduced price of cloning The true price of getting pod-killed is loosing your implants. What's your problem here? * jump clones It's a compromise because there were so many whining threads about people saying jumping is such a drag. It also doesn't help you if you have to haul stuff. Get over it - not a problem. None of the above changes harmed the game or made it less harsh where it really counts. Quite the opposite. Get over it. --- ISK BUYER = LOOSER EVE TV- Bring it back!

CCP Zulupark	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Malcanis Ah, so the relentless deprecation of non-consensual empire PvP, the greatly decreased frequency of dev-blogs and the near-disappearance of the devs from the fourms are all just in my imagination? That is a relief. I don't see any "relentless deprecation of non-consensual empire PvP" anywhere. If anything we're moving closer now to how the game used to be a few years back, that is, closer to how it was always meant to be. Sure, there has been a decrease in dev blogs, but then again it's summer. That'll be stepped up in the near future. I'll have a blog out for example within the next few days. furthermore, forums.

Scagga Laebetrovo Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:03:00 - [49] Edited by: Scagga Laebetrovo on 28/08/2008 12:03:57 Wonder if there is a healthy serving of misanthropy at CCP HQ "I had a read of the General discussion section. Part of my empathy to my fellow man died."
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:07:00 - [50] Originally by: CCP Zulupark Design has always been made with the goal of "making something fun/cool/awesome", nothing more nothing less. Whats cool about nerfing? Thats pretty much all that CCP have done over the years to game mechanics. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:08:00 - [51] and you people wonder why the CCP doesn't answer threads much? Anything and everything they do answer, gets ripped apart, eaten, spat or sh...ahem...put out and then reprocessed in the "will it blend" commercial. If you want CCP to interact with you, you need to act like civilized people. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Evelgrivion Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:09:00 - [52] Originally by: CCP Zulupark Originally by: Malcanis Ah, so the relentless deprecation of non-consensual empire PvP, the greatly decreased frequency of dev-blogs and the near-disappearance of the devs from the fourms are all just in my imagination? That is a relief. I don't see any "relentless deprecation of non-consensual empire PvP" anywhere. If anything we're moving closer now to how the game used to be a few years back, that is, closer to how it was always meant to be. Sure, there has been a decrease in dev blogs, but then again it's summer. That'll be stepped up in the near future. I'll have a blog out for example within the next few days. furthermore, forums. What about the people who don't want to post devblogs because they don't want to get the crap thrown at them from the community? I don't think there's any reason to deny that the moderation of the forums could be kicked up a few dozen notches, if not purged outright, and started anew.
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:10:00 - [53] Originally by: Glengrant I'm so tired of people repeating the same BS again and again - without putting any thought in it. * Damage nerf I just checked - I can still deal damge. Quite a lot of it actually. No problem here. Damage mods stacks, greatly reduced damage. Do you know what you are talking about? Quote: * warp to zero That replaced a zillion stupid BMs. Everybody who was serious had wt0-BMs for every route he needed. Meaning we already had WT0. Not to and from all objects in space. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:12:00 - [54] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: CCP Zulupark hi :) Just dropping by to see what's going on in this thread. Imo the trend the OP describes is perceived, not actual. Doesn't change the fact that perception can be as bad as reality. Anyway, reading this thread and looking at arguments for/against. Zulupark Ohhai. Whuts goin' on in here? OH SHIT, RUN its the FUZZ!!!
VicturusTeSaluto Metafarmers	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:13:00 - [55] Zulupark is actually reading/posting? Hey, would you kindly ask the devs responsible for the technical aspects of the game go to over to the windows help forum and read up on all the unresolved issues that are not being addressed even after mass bug reports/petitions? This is game breaking stuff here.
Vyktor Abyss IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:14:00 - [56] My wish list: 1. Giant Font users get beaten with Giant foam bat until they see how annoying it is. 2. Self appointed CCP protectors (emote Sherriff Jones existential thought) blaming the community for CCP's very poor communication recently get transformed into an amoeba and teleported into a CCP office water cooler to inevitably be unnoticed, drunk and eventuly shat out by some ignorant CCP Developer. 3. The silent majority of the Eve community to get fed up with the lack of dev blogs, finding out about the lack new interesting content via "hype/marketing" interviews on 3rd party websites, and to leave the game - somehow letting me know of the new cool game they're playing. 4. To find a new MMO with the same exciting future that Eve once had and be there at the beginning.
Dionisius Gallente Sincarnate Holding	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:16:00 - [57] Actually the OP is almost 100% right, CCP could invest in GMs for this place and actually redoing the forums wouldn't be such a bad ideia. And yes, Devs participating and actually helping out were they can WOULD BE APRECIATED! _____________________________________
Pan Crastus Anti-Metagaming League	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:17:00 - [58] Originally by: Glengrant * reduced price of cloning The true price of getting pod-killed is loosing your implants. What's your problem here? They might as well remove medical clones then (no SP lost when podded). I suspect that the original reason for having this thing is to make it hurt more when an older player gets killed, but as the cost is negligible now, it doesn't work. So the actual effect nowdays is that only people who forget to update or are trapped with their clone in a station without access to medical facilities are hit hard, which is kinda broken. How to PVP: 1. buy ISK with GTCs, 2. fit cloak, learn aggro mechanics, 3. buy second account for metagaming
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:17:00 - [59] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 28/08/2008 12:18:00 Originally by: Vyktor Abyss (emote Sherriff Jones existential thought) Now now, just because i keep things in perspective, doesn't mean i'm "protecting" CCP. People think it's all CCPs fault, i give the points accordingly on how the community is at fault too. It's only fair. If CCP came here kicking peolpe around, i'd tell them off the same way. See? You don't have to be an insulting person to discuss things. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
ShardowRhino Caldari Legion 0f The Damned	Posted - 2008.08.28 12:18:00 - [60] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss My wish list: 1. Giant Font users get beaten with Giant foam bat until they see how annoying it is. 2. Self appointed CCP protectors (emote Sherriff Jones existential thought) blaming the community for CCP's very poor communication recently get transformed into an amoeba and teleported into a CCP office water cooler to inevitably be unnoticed, drunk and eventuly shat out by some ignorant CCP Developer. 3. The silent majority of the Eve community to get fed up with the lack of dev blogs, finding out about the lack new interesting content via "hype/marketing" interviews on 3rd party websites, and to leave the game - somehow letting me know of the new cool game they're playing. 4. To find a new MMO with the same exciting future that Eve once had and be there at the beginning. I whole heartdly agree, therefore I feel compelled to help you cover the last point you forgot on your poast. 5.Give me your stuffz,all your tritanium are belong to me! Soo.....you know...surrender your stuff to me. Feel free to contract it, I know you can't wait to flee so I won't keep you in eve any longer then needed. Thanks, Sincereiously, Rhino

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