Originally by: Torso Errata

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TL;DR.


BoB understands lag, and uses it to their advantage. They aren't the only ones. I've read here that Goons used to copy zillions of bookmarks to achieve the same end. I haven't haven't heard allegations of the same sort of exploits from BoB. But they do understand the lag game, and the advantage of loading the grid first, or at least loading it in its entirety before pew pew commences.

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Originally by: Luthien Firefoot

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Originally by: Kaaii

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What did you loose?

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nothing, i warped out

it's not a loss / emo post it's a 'read and digest post'

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Originally by: Martinez

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Hold on!!!! Slam on the breaks!!!! You where able to warp? You must be a dev!!!!!

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Originally by: Scoobie Snacks

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Luthien Firefoot,

The reason why the systems lag like that are because of drones. Often, if you have a 200 man fleet - or sometimes as few as 100 - when you attack pos structures with massive amounts of drones it will lag out an entire node to a crawl.

This is a game mechanics problems as well as a server performance problem.

This is a well known fact in alliance warfare, and unless a node is upgraded; you can expect more of the same.

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Originally by: whisk

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Edited by: whisk on 31/08/2008 14:28:31
I gues this thread havnt been locked yet in fear of another spam thread about how BoB Gm locked this thread?

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Originally by: Wulfgard

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Originally by: Torso Errata

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TL;DR.


BoB understands lag, and uses it to their advantage. They aren't the only ones. I've read here that Goons used to copy zillions of bookmarks to achieve the same end. I haven't haven't heard allegations of the same sort of exploits from BoB. But they do understand the lag game, and the advantage of loading the grid first, or at least loading it in its entirety before pew pew commences.

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Ahh, finally a post that makes sense among the mindless drivel. It seems that what matters in this game isn't how good your strategy/fleet/FC is but how developed is your understanding of lag patterns.

It didn't matter as much in the early days but now with multi billions ships involved...

In order to be a winner, you need Lag Warfare trained to V, all others skills are truelly secondary

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Originally by: Omegaxgp

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I post here with my Icelandic Penguin at my side and come to realize that the OP has continued on and on about losing a fight to BOB & GBC. It is never the first time that a post about my own alliance has created more controversy. Lot of people welcome the emorage since that is what fuels many to continue to beat down on the matter at hand. When you have 400+ people in one system and 300 or more right next door, it is difficult to have a fight. The experience of playing this game comes to a steady halt as lot of people in empire have difficulty traveling as one cluster is reinforced to compensate for the sov battle going on at the time.

While one side gathers the numbers and the other is ready to put it all on the line, there is no way that you can say that we do not get lag too. The truth is NC brings a large fleet but does nothing apart from sitting behind pos shields or camping a system day in and day out. Then when GBC comes, they're still in the same place as they were before day in and day out behind pos shields or camping that one system again. The progress overtime showed that the motivation of the NC dwindled as each system and station system fell to GBC. Most of them fell back or made their own variation of a 'Tactical Withdrawal' of Microgang Rotations. Pure and Hydra were falling victim to a rekindled Triumvirate in which MM, Razor and close allies moved to TVn to support their friends.

The fall of VFK came which prompted GBC to move over to Vale which is where it stands now. How this next upcoming chapter of our campaign will be written we will never know for sure. However, the fact still remains, I will be around and so will many of our allies while I leave a bit of advice for the OP: Sort Your Life Out!

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Originally by: Venomire

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There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us.

Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support).

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Originally by: DigitalCommunist

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Props to RZR in this thread. Remarkable restraint.

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Originally by: Gungankllr

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I made one of these posts once. I want to hide in the basement when I look at it... lol

While we were getting our asses handed to us a few years back, people came with the "OMG BoB must be cheating" posts with FURIOUS ANGER AND NERDRAGE.

Everybody is infiltrated with alts, guys. Don't you think that if there was a magic lag tactic that they knew about somebody would have dropped the evidence on the forums by now?

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Originally by: Sergeant Spot

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Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures).

Goons: Deliberate and publicly announced attempt to make game unplayeble when their complaints about "Band of developers" are not treated as gospel, all at the SAME TIME that Goons had more developer members than BoB

Goons: Goon GM abuses his Job by interfering with BoB capital operations.

Goons: Sharkbait does his JOB. Goons see a chance to twist truth to make an issue where there is none, and leap at the opportunity.....

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Originally by: Noshi

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Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42

Originally by: Venomire

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There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us.

Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support).

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What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned.

Nice work.

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Originally by: Fanduril

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Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool".

Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned".

Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing...

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Originally by: Noshi

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Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42

Originally by: Venomire

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There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us.

Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support).

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What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned.

Nice work.

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Originally by: Presidio

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Originally by: Fanduril

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Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool".

Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned".

Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing...

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I have a similar story with BoB and log on traps they used to do to us in great northern war, as soon as we started using the same tactic it became a bannable offense.

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Originally by: DaiTengu

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I know, everyone hates pictures of kittens. :(

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Originally by: DaiTengu

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Originally by: Presidio

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Originally by: Fanduril

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Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool".

Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned".

Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing...

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I have a similar story with BoB and log on traps they used to do to us in great northern war, as soon as we started using the same tactic it became a bannable offense.

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Since when have log on traps been bannable offenses?

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