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Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:04:00 - [1] Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth.
Loike coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:05:00 - [2] Edited by: Loike on 30/08/2008 23:10:51 I had noticed TVN lagging a lot, damn you bob! ok, I just read it again, and this is, well, such a load of bull.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:06:00 - [3] Edited by: TWD on 30/08/2008 23:06:22 I'm one of the cheaters in the op!
steveid Haiduken	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:06:00 - [4] omfg please tell me that this is an elaborate troll. If not you need to seek help. Medical help. I mean now.
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:08:00 - [5] Hehe, op can I have some of what you're smoking
Isanoe nothwood D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:08:00 - [6] Hmmmmm where is your tinfoil hat ?
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:08:00 - [7] Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:09:00 - [8] My fault. I logged on. Eve server probably threw a wobbly in surprise. Sorry about that. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:09:00 - [9] i cheat on myself, it makes me feel cool
Serrano Balthar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [10] if you have a corpmate who don't lag, it's obviously a bob spy ! kill it ----------- Igvar Thorn arn !

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [11] Wait, I blame Mynas! Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [12] luthi man after four years you should know a post like this is gonna make you look stupid :( regardless of what you believe is real or not - Gob
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [13] Its the lower id's i tell ya! -------------
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Nick Curso Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise Not bad, I like this more.
hinch Gallente Furious Angels Research and Development	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [15] whine more carebear can i have your stuff :) (sorry just had to) Furious Angels Research and Development. Fully researched BPO's, BPC's and T2 invented BPC's to order. FA BPO and BPC Shop
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:10:00 - [16] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. That's pretty deep.
Ulic Vos Invicta.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:11:00 - [17] Clearly gave me one of the best and hardest laughs i ever had in my life.
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Algey Originally by: Nick Curso Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise Not bad, I like this more. Oh noes! u got me :( CHEATER!
Lord Drax Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:11:00 - [19] This post condensed - "We cant beat them so they must be cheating." ps, that was some nice emorage there. -----------------------------------------
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:12:00 - [20] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. That's pretty deep. i knew this girl who was pretty deep,

Wesley Baird Order and Chaos	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:12:00 - [21] OMG BoB why did you lag TVN so badly?!?! How could you do this to me?
Bloody Mistake Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:12:00 - [22] Hilarious and funny. Would read again - since it made me lol. 8/10
Seraphax Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. Tactics are tactics, don't like them? go play wow.
nilie Destructive Influence	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:14:00 - [24] epic
D'Artagnan Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:14:00 - [25] Sadly I was so lagged I could not activate my Lag Module II
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:14:00 - [26] Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Algey Originally by: Nick Curso Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise Not bad, I like this more. Oh noes! u got me :( CHEATER! Hehe, I can lag servers when I set my magic elves on the job too
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:14:00 - [27] Bob cheaters?? Well thats a new one!! Luthien, i thought you were smarter than this.. tsk tsk tsk.
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:15:00 - [28] We have the bpo for this I thought everyone had one? Go on, give it a press!
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:16:00 - [29] magic elves !!! mutherf*****
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:17:00 - [30] you play for 4 years, ha? then you are a 4 years playing noob in that case, mate. quit playing for the NCC and you may actualy learn something.

Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:18:00 - [31] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig luthi man after four years you should know a post like this is gonna make you look stupid :( regardless of what you believe is real or not - Gob Ye I know how it looks on caod but it's what was felt by everyone in that fleet, of just 100 or so ppl trying to make just 3 jumps and it took 'just' long enough for the jammer to go down. I am just the person who is who is willing to come on here and say it and to the devil with the consequences.
Freya Selene Delucian Defence Initiative	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:18:00 - [32] It didn't help me, so it did help my enemy! It has to be there fault!
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:18:00 - [33] Originally by: Orange Species Its the lower id's i tell ya! haha, dude. it's ASCN's theory... but still makes me laugh
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:19:00 - [34] mate, you is too paranoid
enjoi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:20:00 - [35] lol, do you even know what happens when 350 people are on the same node, and all of those are traveling or fighting? Lots of packets. You said your fleet was within three jumps of ours. I guess we just gave CCP the ol' wink and the gun and they reallocated the Jita backup for only our system. But yeah, we obviously cheated, it's the only rational explanation. Real men structure tank.
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:20:00 - [36] Originally by: Lorgoth you play for 4 years, ha? then you are a 4 years playing noob in that case, mate. quit playing for the NCC and you may actualy learn something. I played for a lot of sides buddy, do sum research already...
enjoi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Lord Drax ps, that was some nice emorage there. Oh, and I'm quoting this. Real men structure tank.
SFShootme Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:21:00 - [38] Its just a like a Cigarette, its something that we do. Once in a while, between me and you Its just like a Cigarette, noones really fooled. I dont want the truth, i wanna feel .... kewl Keep talkin while i'm walking away [VIDEO] Paroxysm
Cmndr Griff Opinicus Operations	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:22:00 - [39] Quote: This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. Good job BoB is clamping down on laggy cyno-jammers Useful links: Jump-planner
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:22:00 - [40] Something is wrong here.... I've been in BoB from nearly the beginning. I've been a BoB director for years. ....but they have not shared even one CCP contact with me, and they STILL have not shared access to the "Induce Lag on enemy fleet several jumps away button". What Gives!!!???? How long will I have slave away till I get access to the good stuff? Play nice while you butcher each other.

wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:22:00 - [41] next time open a new topic using capitals And.. 4 years of crap shure piled up :-)
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:23:00 - [42] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. Oooor they were able to do that BECAUSE the lag was gone by then? Are you a creationist by any chance? A-War Recruiting
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:24:00 - [43] Well I think the evidence is highly conclusive. The jury rules: Guilty as charged!
Ulic Vos Invicta.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:25:00 - [44] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I played for a lot of sides buddy, do sum research already... And still it didnt make you any smarter eh
Seraphax Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:25:00 - [45] Originally by: kublai Oooor they were able to do that BECAUSE the lag was gone by then? Are you a creationist by any chance? hahaha good one.
Pamangkin Notneir Industry LLC	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:25:00 - [46] wow.. is a good game I guess. Have you try it?
Mark Syrus Shadow Company G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:26:00 - [47] WOW...just...wow. lag does not exist, its a figment of your imagination. oh noes BOB haxzored ccp, and created lag, and I died in slow motion....lol. blob your enemy and complain about lag- 2mil isk blaming bob for all of your problems- 50mil isk being emo and complaining on caod- PRICELESS cry to someone who cares. oh and since your leaving..can I have your stuff? or is bob creating so much lag that you cant quit fast enough...lol
Tzera Amarr	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:26:00 - [48] In before Mynas.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:26:00 - [49] If you had put half the effort into defending Querious as you did making sure you got as many r64 moons as possible you probably wouldn't be in this position. ---
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:32:00 - [50] Edited by: Spathi on 30/08/2008 23:33:52 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot We will never know what 'CCP GIFTED TO BOB' I already told you! We have the Lag Creator II blueprint original Oh and ZOMG T20!!! Ammo bpos and a sabre bpo make bob win all fights! Go on, give it a press!

elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:32:00 - [51] Edited by: elohllird on 30/08/2008 23:33:09 word, drunk posting ftw edit coz im ****ed been down chicago's its a chavextravaganza
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:32:00 - [52] Originally by: Kaaii What did you loose? nothing, i warped out it's not a loss / emo post it's a 'read and digest post'
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:32:00 - [53] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Dungar Loghoth If you had put half the effort into defending Querious as you did making sure you got as many r64 moons as possible you probably wouldn't be in this position. I've got one thing to say to you fk you i've fought more in querious that you ever have so u can kiss my ar5e Squabbling with PURE, RZR, and the other members of the coalition over r64 moons doesnt count Cumon, dont wind him up, hes obviously had far to many Smifnoff Ice's
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:34:00 - [54] Everyone has a WKD side ;\| -------------
Mauy Thai North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:34:00 - [55] yea damn you bob you evil bastards, what are you playing at. stop haxing ccp please.
Dazhbog T C B	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:35:00 - [56] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Dungar Loghoth If you had put half the effort into defending Querious as you did making sure you got as many r64 moons as possible you probably wouldn't be in this position. I've got one thing to say to you fk you i've fought more in querious that you ever have so u can kiss my ar5e IRON fought in Querious? yeah, just like they fought in Deklein
Jenessa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:35:00 - [57] Lag was indeed horrendous in TVN before, logging on was impossible and for those of us who were on lag was terrible, ships took 5+ mins to move and module lag was worse. Dont blame Bob though or any alliance though. CCP made it so blobs were needed to kill jammers, and CCP right now have servers that are not fit for purpose. In short blame CCP.
xS LorD Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:35:00 - [58] MmMmM. NC Tears are Tasty
Keflin Geard Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:36:00 - [59] "This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer." Magic. Must be. No other explanation.
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:37:00 - [60] 4 years and you still haven't figured out how this game works when it comes to large numbers, low sec, POS and a entire fleet shooting a cyno jammer....

Aaron Mirrorsaver Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:37:00 - [61] lag can clear for any number of reasons, like the fact that they're no longer shooting the jammer. because its incapped. alot of people can be in a system without lag, but once shooting starts and the number of people shooting each other is greater than about 100 then its severe. as for controllable lag limited to one side...yeh totally doable. ------ GBC old timer. AKA "the dude" I like your sig, I hope someday to be also referred to as ''the dude'' - Gneeznow
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:37:00 - [62] Originally by: xS LorD MmMmM. NC Tears are Tasty I never understood this reference..... Its like what, kill them, then lick thier face? Bizarre......
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:37:00 - [63] i change my mind. topic of the week, realy. can i subscibe your threads somehow? 9/10 will def. read again.
Heartcarver Goat Gangbangers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:38:00 - [64] Originally by: slip66 4 years and you still haven't figured out how this game works when it comes to large numbers, low sec, POS and a entire fleet shooting a cyno jammer.... Did you return your drones to the bay after and lag cleared ^^ "The point of war isn't to die for your country, it's to make the other bastard die for his"
Yikes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:38:00 - [65] Nice theory, you've certainly convinced me.
Kurt Ambrose Caldari Digital assassins	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:38:00 - [66] Edited by: Kurt Ambrose on 30/08/2008 23:40:46 Great thread, you tell dem nasty cheaters! ps. WTB lag creator bpc might help in venal
dan drorgar Minmatar Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:40:00 - [67] I know this will be moderated, but you can just download the bobdevh4x client from here ...
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:40:00 - [68] Originally by: Keflin Geard "This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer." Magic. Must be. No other explanation. Yeah, I mean... it's not like the server is going to stop lagging 30 seconds or so after it stops having to do massive amounts of calculation of a few hundred people shooting at a cyno jammer or anything now, is it? Oh wait... Honestly, these threads are starting to get old, even for someone who was completely appauled by the whole scandal and it's unpleasentness. \o/ EON FICTION WRITER OF THE YEAR! \o/ >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
BrainFugger Minmatar The Galactic Empire Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:41:00 - [69] this make my day! thx i love you Luthien
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:41:00 - [70] 4 years,, and still dont know how to petition hax? This is not an emo post you say? Ofc not...silly us THIS WOULD BE AN EMO POST!!!

Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:42:00 - [71] Edited by: Presidio on 30/08/2008 23:43:09 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Goberth Ludwig luthi man after four years you should know a post like this is gonna make you look stupid :( regardless of what you believe is real or not - Gob Ye I know how it looks on caod but it's what was felt by everyone in that fleet, of just 100 or so ppl trying to make just 3 jumps and it took 'just' long enough for the jammer to go down. I am just the person who is who is willing to come on here and say it and to the devil with the consequences. None of us believed Xirtam when he was telling us that BoB was being helped by the devs. Until we really found out they were helped by them. Nothing would surprise me personally. Unfortunately you would need someone like Kungustmen to make your case. And by this time I am sure BoB is more careful about divulging their hook-ups. People seam to have a short memory. -
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:43:00 - [72] Originally by: Presidio None of us believed Xirtam when he was telling us that BoB was being helped by the devs. Until we really found out they were helped by them. Nothing would surprise me personally. Unfortunately you would need someone like Kungustmen to make your case. And by this time I am sure BoB is more careful about divulging their hook-ups. Aha. Xirtam said it so.. it must be true. Who wants my stuff?
the Poet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:44:00 - [73] There is a certain unique satisfaction to seeing the wheels come off.
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Presidio None of us believed Xirtam when he was telling us that BoB was being helped by the devs. Until we really found out they were helped by them. Nothing would surprise me personally. Unfortunately you would need someone like Kungustmen to make your case. And by this time I am sure BoB is more careful about divulging their hook-ups. People seam to have a short memory. Yeap, now everyone knows Xirtam is the most reliable source for information in the whole of eve. -------------
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat ****5 rich in iceland Haha, you may not regret it now.........
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks Would now be a bad time to point out there are no penguins in the Northern Hemisphere & Molle is Swedish -------------
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:50:00 - [77] ahh that's it we launched drones to cause the lag! oldest trick in the book. I learned it from Xirtan. A lot of people said the same things about CA and we all know it was all true.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:51:00 - [78] NC MAKING HISTORY ITT
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:51:00 - [79] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Presidio None of us believed Xirtam when he was telling us that BoB was being helped by the devs. Until we really found out they were helped by them. Nothing would surprise me personally. Unfortunately you would need someone like Kungustmen to make your case. And by this time I am sure BoB is more careful about divulging their hook-ups. People seam to have a short memory. Yeap, now everyone knows Xirtam is the most reliable source for information in the whole of eve. We didn't believe Xirt until CCP came out and admitted it. Blueprints were just the smoking gun. Something that was later corroborated by other sources with inside information. source -
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:51:00 - [80] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks Would now be a bad time to point out there are no penguins in the Northern Hemisphere & Molle is Swedish Yes, Yes it would.

Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:51:00 - [81] Edited by: Spathi on 30/08/2008 23:51:45 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I need a chill pill. I am very emo about bob winning and blame ccp Yes, yes you do need one. Razor(s) can help you in game and out if you're emo. Oh and penguins in Iceland? LOL Go on, give it a press!
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:52:00 - [82] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks Would now be a bad time to point out there are no penguins in the Northern Hemisphere & Molle is Swedish this thread is full of awesomeness.
Estios Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:52:00 - [83] This is probably my favouritest thread ever , ahahahahahaha awesome Please unplug your keyboard you silly paranoid fool. There is no lag in EVE except for when we hax So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
the Poet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:53:00 - [84] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: the Poet There is a certain unique satisfaction to seeing the wheels come off. I think your judgement is slightly clouded if you think the satisfaction is unique, or that your unique as a result of it! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, unless you no longer have anything to hold.
General Windypops Skullduggery Inc	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:54:00 - [85] Originally by: TWD Is this what the other NC guy meant with making history? Didn't Michael Jackson also make 'History'? Them's some big shoes to fill (or not, depending on whether he had surgical reduction).
kasabian78 Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:55:00 - [86] Sum1 give me another F5 key, this key is burning like the North. This thread is Hot!!!
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:56:00 - [87] I will be interested in how the NC will rotate on caod.... Perhaps that is the history they were talking about! Go on, give it a press!
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:57:00 - [88] Originally by: kasabian78 Sum1 give me another F5 key, this key is burning like the North. And your confidence levels, evidently.
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:57:00 - [89] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat ****5 rich in iceland quoting for tommorow's laugh :]
shuckstar Gallente Hauling hogs	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:57:00 - [90] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Goberth Ludwig luthi man after four years you should know a post like this is gonna make you look stupid :( regardless of what you believe is real or not - Gob Ye I know how it looks on caod but it's what was felt by everyone in that fleet, of just 100 or so ppl trying to make just 3 jumps and it took 'just' long enough for the jammer to go down. I am just the person who is who is willing to come on here and say it and to the devil with the consequences. It's called lag, deal with it everyone else has to.

Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:58:00 - [91] Originally by: Algey Hehe, I can lag servers when I set my magic elves on the job too Well, all you can shout and laugh and point fingers like you want. But there is a threat where some BoB, mmh, was it TWD?, explained a little bit how they experimented with lag and stuff. That for example fighters produce much less lag (for some reason) in the system if used against structures than battleships. That they made a good amount of testing lag and how to avoid (and produce) it. So, do you think that they keep that knowledge unused? That would be stupid. I can't blame Bob for that. CCP can be blamed for crappy service, but well, find me a better game which supports these numbers in Eve... Also if BoB uses lag and has some knowledge about it, yes, might have to do with their ties to CCP devs, but I think it has more to do with their determination to 'win' Eve and to test and try out stuff. The other alliances can be blamed that they just lazily lived away into their days, not preparing properly and testing stuff tooth and nail and find the best way to block and hinder and make any progress of BoB miserable. A bit late to complain now, and also complains needs to go to those who didn't do their homeworks properly - especially since everyone knows that BoB is using all available sorts of 'game mechanics'.
KrampfyV1 Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:59:00 - [92] maybe i didnt say the magic spell to make lag go away? i think i shot 1 person in that fight. also think someones gonna wake up with a headache and a ban
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.08.30 23:59:00 - [93] Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Algey Originally by: Nick Curso Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise Not bad, I like this more. Oh noes! u got me :( CHEATER! :facepalm.jpg: LOL look at the link you are clicking, the one with the U's is so old I thought EVERYONE knew what it was ------------------------------------------------- Items posted by me are in no way a reflection of the policies and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance. {though they maybe really ought to be}
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:00:00 - [94] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat ****5 rich in iceland Haha, you may not regret it now......... If you spent more time ingame maybe I wouldn't be posting here...
Ethen Bejorn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:00:00 - [95] Edited by: Ethen Bejorn on 31/08/2008 00:04:40 [Quote=Luthien Firefoot] Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat ****5 rich in iceland History In The Making.
Cing Liberdanis RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:02:00 - [96] Penguins give it good tbh.....
Algey The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:02:00 - [97] Originally by: Garok Nor Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Algey Originally by: Nick Curso Cheeter reporting in! Just for you<- not a rick roll i promise Not bad, I like this more. Oh noes! u got me :( CHEATER! :facepalm.jpg: LOL look at the link you are clicking, the one with the U's is so old I thought EVERYONE knew what it was I think I might be old, but I think he's actually quite good
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:03:00 - [98] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot If you spent more time ingame maybe I wouldn't be posting here... Blaming your alliance mates for failure and admitting you're emo ITT! Go on, give it a press!
Sirus Ade RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:03:00 - [99] Want a cookie?
Tnilf Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:03:00 - [100] I love how there is lag when 100 people are all shooting on one grid, and then when they stop so does the lag..... Who would have figured. HAXXXXORZ!!!!!!!!!

Wyndwhisper Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:03:00 - [101] What lag? anyone get lag? last time i asked a dev about lag he said prove it!!! takes finger of the anti lag button :P
kublai Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:04:00 - [102] When he edits this at the command of his leaders tomorrow, you'll all love me for quoting him in my first reply, this is some epic shit. A-War Recruiting
SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:04:00 - [103] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat ****5 rich in iceland Im sorry, but... 1) Im swedish 2) I only do HVAC's Sry.
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:04:00 - [104] Edited by: Spathi on 31/08/2008 00:05:06 Molle Post! Maybe your HVAC will chill their nuts off? Go on, give it a press!
Dungar Loghoth Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:20:00 - [105] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 31/08/2008 00:19:47 Originally by: Aprudena Gist Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Dungar Loghoth If you had put half the effort into defending Querious as you did making sure you got as many r64 moons as possible you probably wouldn't be in this position. I've got one thing to say to you fk you i've fought more in querious that you ever have so u can kiss my ar5e IRON fought in Querious? They fought each other over who had to fuel that one large tower they defend their most important systems with! No they installed worthless pets to do this that put a cyno jammer, moon miner, cha and a sma all on 1 large tower. Well, at least they did better than TCF's pets and their one medium tower in 111-. ---
acompton Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:20:00 - [106] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks This is a friggin awesome post...
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:20:00 - [107] Originally by: Aprudena Gist No they installed worthless pets to do this that put a cyno jammer, moon miner, cha and a sma all on 1 large tower. They forgot the cynojammer. You need to school your Iron pets tbh. I recommend a stick. Go on, give it a press!
Kanae Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:20:00 - [108] Its a bit of a sad thing but lag is almost always the winner on large fleet fights. Trying to get into a system that already has 300+ in it usually does not turn out well for the people jumping in. (unless your using a jump portal) Can't really blame BoB for trying to get the best situations to fight only CCP for not enabling us to play lag free.
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:20:00 - [109] ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really..
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:21:00 - [110] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. Dude BoB is the best alliance in eve. Any other alliance I have flown with personally lacks the type of people that BoB has. Fleets are fun, and they are knowledgeable about pretty much anything. The cheating BS is just that. Its BS. If you think someone is cheating/exploiting hit f12 and fill out a petition. Do not make yourself, and your alliance look like idiots by posting on CAOD. (Unless thats your intention.)

Drako Mandragoran Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:21:00 - [111] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Well anyway I'm going to bed so fk ccp up their fkin icelandic ar5es You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks and YES i am drunk but i dont regret a fkin word of what i wrote so fk the lot of ya go buy some isk from bobs kilboard and make some more fat **5 rich in iceland Filled my Talisman of NNC Tears with this Post. I will proudly wear this talisman as it boosts GBC INVICIBILITY to LVL20! Getting Blobbed by NNC While in INSRG ! Check. Getting Blobbed by NNC while in TRIUMVIRATE! Check! Getting Blobbed by NNC While in GBC! CHECK! Reading Epic TEAR POST while my Poly'd VAGA Died locked in structure on 6Y gate. By a 250 Man Pure/NNC Blob.... and never loading a ship for 20 Min. This Thread Delivered 6 more months of Internet Starhip Motivation for me.. Thanks NNC PEW PEW BOOM**!!!!
Dungar Loghoth Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:22:00 - [112] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really.. Man, even ASCN's crybabby care-bears didnt whine this much. ---
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:22:00 - [113] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really.. OVER NINE THOUSAND players to be more precise.
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:23:00 - [114] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. Warhammer lol -------------
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:24:00 - [115] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really.. You can't go to bed!! I need moar emorage poasts! Oh, if you do quit in 2 weeks, can I have your stuff? Askin now, just cos... Fyi, CCP also admit goons have moar devs than us.. Damn them supporting power blocks Go on, give it a press!
Lucas Avignon Avignon Associates Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:24:00 - [116] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really.. Quoting more epic posts, can't wait for you to post your reaction to all this in the morning Try not to dream about bob and cyno jammers tonight Originally by: CCP Prism X Yeah, and while we're at it we can create a controlled environment around account hacking and credit card fraud and all the other EULA breaches..
Athena Rivera Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:25:00 - [117] Originally by: Throdax Originally by: Athena Rivera I'll sit back and watch this thread grow bigger while I play with Pen^Pen, my little penguin. I bet the other IRON guys are wondering if the emorage is growing from within their own coms!! :) Does your PenPen also lives in a fridge? Of course he does, he loves the cold.
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:26:00 - [118] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. X'ing up to grief this guy as bob in warhammer online too! Nah, we all know you'll play hello kitty online. Warhammer implies you have to fight and you might lose. Clearly you cant handle the losing part. Go on, give it a press!
the Poet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:26:00 - [119] Edited by: the Poet on 31/08/2008 00:27:58 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ok I'm def going to bed now. My last thought, this ones for CCP, because whike this maybe a drunken ramble, it is based on 'FOUR YEARS' of watching tha same crud, ever since bnc left fade and joined bob. I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. You reap the benefits of supporting BOB, I hope your theory of supporting a powerbloc that you envisaged as a 'wooden spoon' for 0.0 environment pays off. I'd hate to think that all the thousands of players that were cheated out of a fair fight, fked off and joined another game. Really.. Sharing is caring bob_eveclient_5.10.58188
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:28:00 - [120] I apologise on behalf of Britain. -------------

Ghost Reaper Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:30:00 - [121] this thread isnt constructive.... .....hold on let me log into msn Ghost
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:30:00 - [122] Is this MAX? Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:31:00 - [123] Edited by: Spathi on 31/08/2008 00:31:53 Originally by: Avon Is this MAX? Maximum Emorage! I know we were meant to do some damage, but damage to this guy's mental health?.. Bonus! Go on, give it a press!
Zetjur Jilnou Rapid Deployment Industries	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:31:00 - [124] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. Shooting things = causes lag. When bob stopped shooting things = less laggy. IT MUST BE EXPLOITERS!!! lol @ Luthien Firefoot, lol @ iron.
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:31:00 - [125] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. Warhammer lol Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously...
Silvero Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:32:00 - [126] Im with you Drako, from time to time eve grows a little dull for me. But every now and then, a little gem like this surfaces and i feel that we really affect ppl in a positive manner. Does this make me an griefer or simply a evil person ? P.S. I think i hold on to this gem for later digestion.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:33:00 - [127] Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:33:34 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:33:02 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Bed... Now... before mum sees you!!! Or... do you want us to use our BED POWERRRSSSSS???
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:33:00 - [128] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. Warhammer lol Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Clearly you don't know Orange Species... He prefers the guys. Should be in finfleet tbh. Also, I thought you left already Go on, give it a press!
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:33:00 - [129] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. Warhammer lol Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... bed is that way, dude <-------
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:33:00 - [130] Shouldn't you be in bed already? For the second time? No that I don't like the emorageomghaxploit

Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:35:00 - [131] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Men are better. -------------
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:35:00 - [132] Luthien, just go to bed :) I recognized you as a fair and good player so far but this thread really - in terms of CAOD - "delivers". Don't make a fool of yourself. There are so many reasons which speak against your accusations that it's not even slightly reasonable. Do yourself a favor and head to bed. Get a Multivitamine drink before so you can hopefully at least evade the headache tomorrow. Cheers c0rn1 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
Hammerfail CEO Caldari Hammerfail Industries	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:36:00 - [133] I'm sorry to say but a 130 man Hammerfail Industries fleet was conducting operations down the pipe as well. We probably added to the lag considerably. Thanks for the diversion GBC! Hammerfail Industries Professional Mercenary Solutions Accept no substitutes or imposters!
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:36:00 - [134] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Men are better. something is following you dude
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:36:00 - [135] Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club..
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:36:00 - [136] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Men are better. See, told you. Go on, give it a press!
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:36:00 - [137] as some bobbit said. i am up to for TS emorage as well. gonna treasure it big time.
Ask Unbeatable D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:37:00 - [138] Bob gets all the good whines
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:39:00 - [139] Originally by: wizzard66 [ something is following you dude Everyone knows Penguin's are 'active'. -------------
the Poet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:39:00 - [140] Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:37:04 Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... Men are better. something is following you dude Actually it's in his house. Drug bust

wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:40:00 - [141]
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:41:00 - [142] Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:41:07 Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club.. man, ! mate! you are telling the truth ! keep it coming!
Estios Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:42:00 - [143] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I hope that in two weeks, when 'warhammer online' kicks off. Warhammer lol Why should you be laughing at me dude ? I saw a vid of you with the rest of dice, you're half my age and probly shud be making out with a girl instead of flaming me on a internet forum. Seriously... I wasnt in this video If I would have been I would have made out with ya Massive Emorage forum posting and then moaning about being flamed on said forum = WIN So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:45:00 - [144] Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:41:07 Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club.. man, ! mate! you are telling the truth ! keep it coming! oi that wasnt my quote!!!
Adm Tecumseh Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:46:00 - [145] OMFG, You BoB *****s, I mean I work hard and get the respect of my corp enuf that I got promoted to Officer. I even went all the way to the **ing BBQ. What more do I have to do to get the sooper-sekrit login hax details. Anything short of oral on Molle that is. Pweese guys gemme the sekrit. PWEESE????????
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:46:00 - [146] Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:41:07 Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club.. man, ! mate! you are telling the truth ! keep it coming! oi that wasnt my quote!!! lies! you are a hidden iron puppie!
Alfragide Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:47:00 - [147] This thread made me laugh . Now will work on a way to deliver some lag to Warhammer. Whoo i know.... Will use Penguins with ...whoot alchool Druken Penguins in Warhammer. Do they have a Forum? Feel the urge to post there... --------------族------------------------ We Ride Together We Die Together We Few, We Happy Few...
Gamesguy Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:47:00 - [148] I've known you for like two years luthien, seriously, how can you be this stupid?
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:48:00 - [149] Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:41:07 Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club.. man, ! mate! you are telling the truth ! keep it coming! oi that wasnt my quote!!! lies! you are a hidden iron puppie! wait.. wasnt the topic about penguin shaegging?
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:48:00 - [150] Originally by: Adm Tecumseh OMFG, You BoB *****s, I mean I work hard and get the respect of my corp enuf that I got promoted to Officer. I even went all the way to the **ing BBQ. What more do I have to do to get the sooper-sekrit login hax details. Anything short of oral on Molle that is. Pweese guys gemme the sekrit. PWEESE???????? you sound like a endeva alt

DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:49:00 - [151] I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS.
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:49:00 - [152] Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Edited by: TOTALHELLDEATH on 31/08/2008 00:41:07 Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 00:36:39 we will never forget that Band of Brothers is the one and only alliance ingame that got supported by CCP Developers more than one time and we never forget that the guys that revelated that got banned by CCP And i think they got still supported .. it's Mr Helmars lill private club.. man, ! mate! you are telling the truth ! keep it coming! oi that wasnt my quote!!! lies! you are a hidden iron puppie! wait.. wasnt the topic about penguin shaegging? mate! take care you build pyramides with Text!
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:49:00 - [153] Originally by: DigitalCommunist I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS. can you c/p his rage pls??
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:50:00 - [154] Originally by: DigitalCommunist I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS. haha miss me? -
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:50:00 - [155] Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS. i must quote my self, just because my posts are so good
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:51:00 - [156] This thread = best thread. -fdrl Goonswarm old timer. AKA "the dude"
Luthien Firefoot Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:51:00 - [157] Just needed to clarify something:- When I 'call out' BOB for cheating In no way am I slagging off or trying to demean the average bob pvper, I have the utmost respect for bob pilots and would not try to say that any victory you guys 'earn' by your skills is not deserved. the people that matter 'know' what I am talking about, if you don't know then I'm afraid you're either ignorant, an alt who knows or a main that is just tripping on the coat tails. Goodnight caod
TOTALHELLDEATH Caldari Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:52:00 - [158] Originally by: Fanduril This thread = best thread. People of Eve was a way better c/d ?
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:52:00 - [159] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Goodnight caod See you on page 8. -------------
Lorgoth Children of Gjallarhorn	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:53:00 - [160] Edited by: Lorgoth on 31/08/2008 00:53:18 rotate to bed or something, dude.

Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:53:00 - [161] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Goodnight caod See you on page 8. I vote 9
Adm Tecumseh Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:55:00 - [162] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: enjoi lol, do you even know what happens when 350 people are on the same node, and all of those are traveling or fighting? Lots of packets. You said your fleet was within three jumps of ours. I guess we just gave CCP the ol' wink and the gun and they reallocated the Jita backup for only our system. But yeah, we obviously cheated, it's the only rational explanation. You want to talk of rational explanations ? Rational explantations - BOB has already been caught cheating. You had a real, living person, who works for CCP and 'WHO STILL WORKS FOR THEM' hacking into the 'EVE UNIVERSE' and giving you 'T2 BPO'S' We will never know what 'CCP GIFTED TO BOB' I actually felt soory for you. I understood how you felt, I mean after all I was in ASCN and had all the loons like Cryvok, Madeye and Ceo Cryrex jammed that shit down our throats until I believed it. Hell I even made a couple emo posts on the subject just like you. But now you bring up the other stuff and I realized that your just a GOON in a failures clothing. emoragequit please.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:58:00 - [163] Originally by: Fanduril Keep us out of this crap. well, you can allways apply to another alliance then
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2008.08.31 00:59:00 - [164] Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out".
Greckor Monmouth THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:00:00 - [165] come to the darkside, we have cookies!! seriously....this thread is made of win, because it made me lol hardcore. BoB can i haz your h4x?
Eudoric Delmar coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:00:00 - [166] I think I pee'd myself laughing a little bit while reading the OP. I mean seriously the only tactic the NC has is, toss enough people at a node to crash/lag it to shit, and you are *****ing about lag?!?!?! Never click on my links in local! Sith's cook book?
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:01:00 - [167] Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: Fanduril Keep us out of this crap. well, you can allways apply to another alliance then I guess I could join BoB but that would be a step down. -fdrl Goonswarm old timer. AKA "the dude"
Mr Hones Gallente HolyKnights	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:04:00 - [168] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: Fanduril Keep us out of this crap. well, you can allways apply to another alliance then I guess I could join BoB but that would be a step down. enough said :) OS Name Microsoft« Windows VistaÖ Ultimate System Type x64-based PC Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q6850 @ 3.00GHz, 3015 Mhz, 4 Core(s) ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-b
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:04:00 - [169] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: wizzard66 Originally by: Fanduril Keep us out of this crap. well, you can allways apply to another alliance then I guess I could join BoB but that would be a step down. But your IQ would be doubled :-))
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:04:00 - [170] BOB H4X FFS, CHEATERS :(

Alty McAltypants Eretz Israel	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:04:00 - [171] Edited by: Alty McAltypants on 31/08/2008 01:05:37 Edited by: Alty McAltypants on 31/08/2008 01:04:33 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. I read this and for the first 4 paragraphs it looked to have a good point...then it blames BOB for cheating, jesus. Blaming BOB for haxing the server is so 2006. Perhaps if you've been playing for 4 years you need to get a better computer?
Mihailo Great Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:07:00 - [172] Luthien, what Band of Brothers is really good at is spreading the myths of their invicibility amongst their ennemies. These "cheating" accusations is what makes your FC fearful of taking risks, and why your gang numbers are shrinking. They aren't cheating. Having been in Goonswarm, I'v been in many situations (less than more) situation where it seemed like we were the ones who cheated with lag. Where our equal numbers of inferior ships decimated theirs, where every move made by our FC was so much better. Band of Brothers have always been about the blob as far as I can remember, and they did a lot of blob warfare, more than you certainly. If they shared that experience amongst themselves, then their FCs simply have a better understanding of how to deal with lag. As far as the 200 in system and the rest being lagged out 3 jumps away, you never know what cards the Node gods will deal you. You think it's bizarre because a system that didn't lag as bad with 400 yesterday, suddenly seems to lag with 200 right? this is normal, their capacity changes, and from the many reports read about that on these forums, it seems automated, and I have seen this many times in different regions. Do yourself a favor, fly a T2 battleship, and let your FCs worry about doomsdays. If they fail, then fail with glee, that's how it's done, any distrust of your allies will only doom you that much quicker.
Viermut Satans Escorts Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:09:00 - [173] Dude I live in BC and I never get this high... My mum is so fat BoB claimed her as a region...
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:11:00 - [174] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot the people that matter 'know' what I am talking about, And yet you posted on caod where 99.9% of the people are not in the "know" and think you're emoraging big time. Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Goodnight caod Isn't this the third time you've "gone" to bed? Go on, give it a press!
Kristoffer Amarr Invicta.	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:11:00 - [175] Go BOB go.
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:13:00 - [176] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks Would now be a bad time to point out there are no penguins in the Northern Hemisphere & Molle is Swedish sush Orange... don't derail a perfectly good emo rage with silly facts ;P ------------------------------------------------- Items posted by me are in no way a reflection of the policies and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance. {though they maybe really ought to be}
Garok Nor Blueprint Haus	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:14:00 - [177] Originally by: the Poet [ Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder, unless you no longer have anything to hold. fix'd ;P ------------------------------------------------- Items posted by me are in no way a reflection of the policies and/or opinions of my corporation or alliance. {though they maybe really ought to be}
Eternal Error Exitus Acta Probant	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:15:00 - [178] Toasting in an epic bread.
Commander Solo Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:16:00 - [179] POASTING
Mia Archer Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:18:00 - [180] the true enemy is obviously Tanis alliance and their devsploit griefing us with these crap servers to make us all quit so they can conquer all of 0.0 unopposed, damn haxoring Tanis alliance ____________________________________________

Pamangkin Notneir Industry LLC	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:19:00 - [181] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Just needed to clarify something:- When I 'call out' BOB for cheating In no way am I slagging off or trying to demean the average bob pvper, I have the utmost respect for bob pilots and would not try to say that any victory you guys 'earn' by your skills is not deserved. the people that matter 'know' what I am talking about, if you don't know then I'm afraid you're either ignorant, an alt who knows or a main that is just tripping on the coat tails. Goodnight caod Whooaaa.. he's getting sober. Give him more beer please.
TimGascoigne	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:19:00 - [182] btw can I have all your stuff?
wncc1701p3 Gallente Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:20:00 - [183] this is so right for this topic wayne
laotse Gallente The Flying Dutchmen	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:23:00 - [184] twd jij weet net zo goed als ik dat jullie cheaten wees er trots op
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:32:00 - [185] Originally by: laotse twd jij weet net zo goed als ik dat jullie cheaten wees er trots op bablefish translation: twd you weet just as well if I that indicated your cheaten proudly -
Needa3 Minmatar BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:37:00 - [186] Originally by: Presidio Originally by: laotse twd jij weet net zo goed als ik dat jullie cheaten wees er trots op bablefish translation: twd you weet just as well if I that indicated your cheaten proudly this really "made" the thread for you kids at home, never use an online translator for your homework @ the NC, you guys got beaten by your own type of warfare?
Evelgrivion Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:41:00 - [187] Always remember that it's never your fault when you lose.Ö
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:51:00 - [188] Edited by: Angelus X on 31/08/2008 01:55:10 Dunno where to start really I guess it all just comes down to THANK YOU! It's been a few months since I checked COAD regularly, and after this I will be doing so again I thinj ;) 0/ P.S. Also it's not Orange Species' fault he looks as young as he does, he suffers from a rare, uncurable genetic disease called 'Sumsuchmen Likedemyung' syndrome which causes him to forever retain the apperance of a young boy!
ishkabibble Aztec Industry	Posted - 2008.08.31 01:52:00 - [189] Originally by: Evelgrivion Always remember that it's never your fault when you lose.Ö This quote is going somewhere that everyone can see cause its full of win Always remember that it's never your fault when you lose.Ö
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:15:00 - [190] Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? Butter Dog = Bitter Puppy

Karbowiak Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:23:00 - [191] I will admit, the lag in TVN tonight was horrible - and it all came around the time BoB started the attack on PURE or who ever it is.. However, directly blaming BoB for the lag, or saying they hacked or got some insider at CCP to "limit" the server. Thats a stretch I mean, which sane person would cause grief for its company, risk ones job and at the same time - "destroy" a virtual game for alot of people ? So mr. Luthien, no - BoB did maybe lag out the node their system used - the rest of the lag might have been caused by the fact the whole north is bundled up in blobs atm. But yeah, good troll tho LONG LIVE CONCRETE! Free Killboard Hosting Service
HotSeat Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:24:00 - [192] CCP helping Bob cheat?.... it's not like anyone caught them doing this.... oh wait, someone DID !! Can't wait till all the WOW players CCP plans on taking away from Blizzard finds out what goes on behind the scene's Sov 4 is nothing compared to the Power of the Grief !!
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:24:00 - [193] Originally by: Presidio Originally by: DigitalCommunist I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS. haha miss me? Yes, I do miss that particular brand of psychosis and megalomania.. ;[
Karbowiak Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:25:00 - [194] Edited by: Karbowiak on 31/08/2008 02:25:57 Originally by: Aales Eae Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? Look at the bottom of the TriKB, we have the same links.. Thats not deliberately put there by the KB admin (me in this case) its put there by Google - whom i use for ads (adsense?) Some isk sellers pay to get their stuff shown on the ads - and thus, they are on boards that has the specific words, eve, isk, <insert own random words here> Hence, your theory of BoB being a bunch of isk sellers plummet to the ground. Not that CCP could do anything to a website anyway. But yeah, nice try tho LONG LIVE CONCRETE! Free Killboard Hosting Service
IonHammer Minmatar Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:28:00 - [195] HAL IBM remember that gem from 2001 now BOB CCP move the last b to the front you get BBO Ions takes his foil hat away cause he needs it no more. CCP IS BOB you fools. If thats your real life i'm very jealous - Petwraith
paracidic Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:28:00 - [196] Edited by: paracidic on 31/08/2008 02:28:53 Originally by: HotSeat CCP helping Bob cheat?.... it's not like anyone caught them doing this.... oh wait, someone DID !! Can't wait till all the WOW players CCP plans on taking away from Blizzard finds out what goes on behind the scene's You embarrass BOS. And to the poster before me. Love the tinfoil! *********************************************** Everything ever written by a goon or DS1 member is absolutely factual and should not be challanged in anyway.
Korinn The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:30:00 - [197] Originally by: paracidic You embarrass BOS. HOGWASH, HotSeat is a well respected poster and a valued member of Pandemic Legion.
Keflin Geard Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:31:00 - [198] Originally by: Aales Eae I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? Evil evil Bob. More shocking revelations. I guess the fact that the Tribune has these isk buying links means that its run by BoB. That would explain a lot.
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:43:00 - [199] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Presidio Originally by: DigitalCommunist I read the first three pages, and thought to myself: no one from the north raged this bad since Presidio. AND THERE HE WAS. haha miss me? Yes, I do miss that particular brand of psychosis and megalomania.. ;[ Great I missed you too <3 -
Aya coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:47:00 - [200] I guess people in IRON didnt notice that WH-JCA had 5200 jumps in 1 hour according to the map (Jita had 1600). If thats true and combine that with all the pos warfare going on I can see why there is lag.

Audrea Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:47:00 - [201] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Keflin Geard "This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer." Magic. Must be. No other explanation. Yeah, I mean... it's not like the server is going to stop lagging 30 seconds or so after it stops having to do massive amounts of calculation of a few hundred people shooting at a cyno jammer or anything now, is it? Oh wait... Honestly, these threads are starting to get old, even for someone who was completely appauled by the whole scandal and it's unpleasentness. hey V how dare you, bringing sense to CAOD?! we all know there is no sense here OP Please moar emo rage while the pos die.. sure you cant went your rage ingame? would make too much sense I am afraid!
Milkman Dani Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:49:00 - [202] I wish we could take our ops and conquer Jita, man, the fire sales we'd see down there would be truely epic in it's scope and size. BoB made up of CCP and CCP made up of BoB? Seriously, if people think that, I would really, really like to smoke what they are smoking. That's like saying Eskalin doesn't play good music when he plays it. Seriously, the NC just needs to go away so that other entities can take over this space and have fun, and not nap train everyone, then start a 0.0 war out of jealousy over another entities successes. There's only one side that's losing in this, and that's anyone red to BoB and the GBC. Before I get flamed I'll flame myself: Yes I was in Fix, they died, went to the drone lands, and died again and are now in Requiem or Outbreak or some other form Yes, I joined a corp that was in KoS, for a month. Not a great move I admit. Yes, I joined an RP pirate corp, and a non rp pirate corp. Kinda lame I spose. Yes, I joined Macabre Votum in Iron, for a month. I loved the corp and the guys in it, but I hated the Drone Regions, and I detest Ernest, worst FC in all of Eve. I can't forget that I did try and apply to sniggerdly, only to realize that I had to join the training corp first. Yes, I did try to get into Pure and MM, but no call back, so I moved on. RuffRyders accepted me in, and flying with the Axiom Empire has been more fun than any other group of people I've flown with, save for Convergent in Fix. I love this alliance. Yes, I've shot the GBC enemies, and I've flown with the GBC enemies. I've been on both sides of this in less than a year, and I can honestly say that BoB and the GBC are better at this game than every single alliance in the game. All of the NC came, as did the RSF, to kill BoB and failed utterly. Pendulum war as it may be, but any other alliance in teh game would have died off never to be heard of again. So before some dude in NC bad mouths a great alliance and group of people like BoB, maybe he should look at his own alliance and see how they stack up against BoB.
Joker47	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:49:00 - [203] Edited by: Joker47 on 31/08/2008 02:50:22 Originally by: Aales Eae I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? Its a goggle ad you noob Edit: go whine about it to goggle. im sure they care...
Endeva Caldari Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:57:00 - [204] Originally by: TOTALHELLDEATH Originally by: Adm Tecumseh OMFG, You BoB *****s, I mean I work hard and get the respect of my corp enuf that I got promoted to Officer. I even went all the way to the **ing BBQ. What more do I have to do to get the sooper-sekrit login hax details. Anything short of oral on Molle that is. Pweese guys gemme the sekrit. PWEESE???????? you sound like a endeva alt its your dad.ask mom Recruiment thread
Stasheddy	Posted - 2008.08.31 02:58:00 - [205] Perhaps Luthien has made the ultimate weapon against BOB by posting this thread. There's been so many people reading and replying to it that there's not enough people playing eve for the lag creating mod to work. Also I don't think BOB needs to sell isk anymore because they make plenty now selling Luthien Bobblehead dolls (guaranteed not to lag out).
Rehmes Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:10:00 - [206] Originally by: Aales Eae Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? :FACEPALM: let me point you to the bottom right of the add where is states "adds by google" which is obviously selected by google due to the Nature of the KB (being that its for EvE) hence the EvE-related isk seller adds. Ofc this simple explanation/observation is a blatant lie as we all know that BoB leadership is overflowing with RL money from their isk selling endeavours. *Where am I?*
Tnilf Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:11:00 - [207] Originally by: Stasheddy Perhaps Luthien has made the ultimate weapon against BOB by posting this thread. There's been so many people reading and replying to it that there's not enough people playing eve for the lag creating mod to work. Also I don't think BOB needs to sell isk anymore because they make plenty now selling Luthien Bobblehead dolls (guaranteed not to lag out). Actually it made the pos sieging more fun, as they had someone sit there and read the posts to us while it was going on.
Crimsonjade Amarr Secret Service	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:12:00 - [208] Edited by: Crimsonjade on 31/08/2008 03:13:18 Originally by: Presidio Great I missed you too <3 hi tex. after reading the first few pages im shocked! didnt think that many WOW players came to eve. boy was i ever wrong
Tnilf Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:16:00 - [209] Edited by: Tnilf on 31/08/2008 03:16:39 Do you seriously think you cyno jammer would have made a difference in this fight and that you would have been able to save it and keep us from taking it out after the fight? http://exe.vizarts.de/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=35594
Tex Star Game-Over	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:22:00 - [210] Originally by: Crimsonjade Edited by: Crimsonjade on 31/08/2008 03:13:18 Originally by: Presidio Great I missed you too <3 hi tex. after reading the first few pages im shocked! didnt think that many WOW players came to eve. boy was i ever wrong Just wanted to say Hi CJ HI Digitan Communist. Been a long time since everyone fueded on the fourms like that. EVOL did some squirly crap back then.. anyay so much....

Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:33:00 - [211] Originally by: Crimsonjade Edited by: Crimsonjade on 31/08/2008 03:13:18 Originally by: Presidio Great I missed you too <3 hi tex. after reading the first few pages im shocked! didnt think that many WOW players came to eve. boy was i ever wrong Wellfare epics ruined WoW's already weaksauce PvP. I am more of an EvE player (played since beta) coming back to EVE. Anyways good to see you're around CJ. We'll talk in game. -
lceman Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:41:00 - [212] First in thread with constructive criticism. Maybe you should point somewhere else for your emo-rage about lag, instead bob and bob being favoritism by ccp. Its practical september almost a year ago since ccp promised actully "deliverance" of better performence in lag-warfare-play. something about supercomputer more yaaardware etc and i havent heard jack sjh1t3 about it. tbh point your finger that way not this way. EOD. If what not is, what is ?.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:44:00 - [213] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. actually no, im just coming here because its a "EVE is dying/dead" thread and your more than likely going to "quit" and im just coming here to ask if i can have your stuff before you leave tbh Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Salastil Gallente Stuck in Doorway	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:49:00 - [214] Perhaps if you and your terrible power bloc aside from Razor knew how to do POS warfare you'd already know how to limit lag. I can guarantee the day after the cyno jammer op or whatever you're whining about occured will have crystal clear preformance.. Why? Because the node has been prepped to place infrequently used systems on it rather than some highsec transit system and a few other medium use systems alongside the system that was being sieged. Or it will be placed on it's own node. You'll notice akward shit like BoB cynoing in 50 carriers and using fighters to bring down the station services. That's them prepping the node for future battles to have less lag. How you go 4 years in 0.0 without figuring that node balancing is built up over activity is beyond me.
MacLuven EL Bernays School of Strategic Communication	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:51:00 - [215] Originally by: Aales Eae They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? Awe sweet dude! This thread had been kinda going down hill a bit on page 7 and 8 but you brought it right back! =--==--= Hi!
Salastil Gallente Stuck in Doorway	Posted - 2008.08.31 03:55:00 - [216] Originally by: Milkman Dani Yes, I've shot the GBC enemies, and I've flown with the GBC enemies. I've been on both sides of this in less than a year, and I can honestly say that BoB and the GBC are better at this game than every single alliance in the game. All of the NC came, as did the RSF, to kill BoB and failed utterly. Pendulum war as it may be, but any other alliance in teh game would have died off never to be heard of again. So before some dude in NC bad mouths a great alliance and group of people like BoB, maybe he should look at his own alliance and see how they stack up against BoB. You mean Razor, Pandemic Legion and Goonswarm who were overstretched and bored as hell with the POS warfare couldn't muster up a 150 man gang with combining all forces in Delve. Everyone looked forward and saw something like 10 more stations to conquer to put a flag up in a region nobody really could maintain. Red Alliance already did that act and came back strong 2 years previously and were down to literally no holdings aside from scattered POS.
Spyra Gryra Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2008.08.31 04:00:00 - [217] Originally by: Salastil Originally by: Milkman Dani Yes, I've shot the GBC enemies, and I've flown with the GBC enemies. I've been on both sides of this in less than a year, and I can honestly say that BoB and the GBC are better at this game than every single alliance in the game. All of the NC came, as did the RSF, to kill BoB and failed utterly. Pendulum war as it may be, but any other alliance in teh game would have died off never to be heard of again. So before some dude in NC bad mouths a great alliance and group of people like BoB, maybe he should look at his own alliance and see how they stack up against BoB. You mean Razor, Pandemic Legion and Goonswarm who were overstretched and bored as hell with the POS warfare couldn't muster up a 150 man gang with combining all forces in Delve. Everyone looked forward and saw something like 10 more stations to conquer to put a flag up in a region nobody really could maintain. Red Alliance already did that act and came back strong 2 years previously and were down to literally no holdings aside from scattered POS. Razor are ***gots, mostly Kuso. Just sayin' CR-SE old timer. AKA "the dude"
Mr Rive Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 04:01:00 - [218] this thread...... its beautiful
halp me THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.08.31 04:03:00 - [219] so lik whats goin on guys?
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2008.08.31 04:09:00 - [220] Edited by: Ponderous Thunderstroke on 31/08/2008 04:09:14 Originally by: Aales Eae Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? If a Blobbit is actually messing with the servers (fat chance, but whatever), it should be pretty easy to nail down who, as these suspicious and remarkably well-timed bouts of server suckage have been going for literally years. That would mean that it's a long-time Blobbit, which really limits the field of candidates, as Band of Brothers has been dead for a while, replaced by Band of the Beaten -- a legion of defeated pet stragglers and orphaned powergamers from other flash-in-the-pan alliances, whom BoB command convinced to ditch their former brosefs, usually with the contents of wallets and hangars as well. True BoB hasn't been around for a while, instead it's ex-RISE, ex-FIX, ex-XELAS, ex-MC, hell, ex-Everyone-who-ever-sucked-at-the-altar-of-BoB, plus a very few hardcore BoB originals that have stuck around. Edit: Oh wow, Page 10 snypa...I get a free mocha at Starbucks. --- "PT, you are a complete and total jerk." Yes. Yes I am.

Kaori Makimura Caldari Maintenancecorp	Posted - 2008.08.31 05:21:00 - [221] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Whining like Niagara Falls What a fantastic amount of pathetic fail to wake up to :D
Tellenta Gallente Invicta.	Posted - 2008.08.31 05:59:00 - [222] Edited by: Tellenta on 31/08/2008 05:59:24 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: enjoi lol, do you even know what happens when 350 people are on the same node, and all of those are traveling or fighting? Lots of packets. You said your fleet was within three jumps of ours. I guess we just gave CCP the ol' wink and the gun and they reallocated the Jita backup for only our system. But yeah, we obviously cheated, it's the only rational explanation. You want to talk of rational explanations ? Rational explantations - T20 has already been caught cheating. You had a real, living person, who works for CCP and 'WHO STILL WORKS FOR THEM' hacking into the 'EVE UNIVERSE' and giving himself 'T2 BPO'S' We will never know what 'CCP GIFTED TO themselves' fyp
Tellenta Gallente Invicta.	Posted - 2008.08.31 06:19:00 - [223] Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". Whats even better is shooting someones ship/cyno/capital and being *****ed out for being hired by bob to do that kill.. there are some mentally sick people on the NC side.
Galgarak Gallente Bad Bear Inc	Posted - 2008.08.31 06:23:00 - [224] Did you try turning brackets off?
Deira Lenia The Chaotic Order Void.	Posted - 2008.08.31 06:24:00 - [225] Edited by: Deira Lenia on 31/08/2008 06:24:41 Ohmigosh lag. I blaim the NC for moving over a odd.. <statistical number here> people in logistical ships to evacuate all your assets back to empire. Stop running away, Start fighting. Lag becomes less when people get podded back home. Its the 53k+ bookmarks we all have. Your moons, Your gates, Your belts, Your Safespots. They have been bookmarked far before you started living up there, Most of us still have them, (i do anyway, but i enjoy seeing long lists of pre-bookmarked places when i right click) And it nicely lags out w/e we go. Try it, create senseless amount of bookmarks that seem absolutely useless. And then try to jump into that system. Your loading time has been extended by another 5 minutes! Anyway. To finish this lovely post, think about this. “If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” and “The man who fights too long against dragons becomes a dragon himself” - Friedrich Nietzsche -****, wrong goddamn alt -- Real men corpse tank Void Forums The Chaotic Order Forums
Kira Pasisson M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.08.31 06:56:00 - [226] Edited by: Kira Pasisson on 31/08/2008 06:56:16 as a member of the professional gbc hacking division (5000ppl trying to make ur life terrible, its a full time job and we dont get paid but it gives so much satisfaction) i must laugh, as u know we are providing u permanently with a good explanation for anything...... you lost ur ship....yeah those ****in haxploiters, you got podkilled in a bubble.... damn, this bubble must have been implemented by those nasty hackers, you had to pay 5% more than regional average on the market... mommmy the hackers are hurting me again... and btw...since i am in the gbc i never had any lag and i never needed 50minutes to do 3 jumps.... never ever... its really cool that our hackers are providing us with that 99% resistances on everything, like lag, damage etc.... we never loose ships btw due to that.... and do you know whats best: our hacker division is able to change every crap moon in a promo one.... so nevermind dudes, you had no chance from the beginning, u should have known that gbc is nothing but the international pc-terror-organization Gorgeous Blatant Cheaters
Bobbechk The Priory	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:00:00 - [227] BoB vs NC
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:01:00 - [228] The really sad thing about this thread is the last time all the controversy came up bob et all that were defending them were giving the exact same responses only look how that turned out :/ not saying the op has a point just pointing out the past.
Rubra J. S. Bach In memoriam	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:07:00 - [229] Great thread, so many yummy tears. The NC has indulged in blobs as much as BoB, so there's not much validity in your assessment of the situation.
Aristrat Amarr SRBI Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:16:00 - [230] Just something from my experience...last night our 22 man gang was roaming through Pure Blind. We have killed 10 or maybe more BOBs and pets in process when show started. Firstly we killed 3 more and jump in L-TS8S. We were at g8 and waiting. BOB & co started to jump and soon they started to show in our grid one by one. We naturally started to locking, shooting and killing them. 4 of them down nice and clean but more are arriving. At this time 50+ BOB's gang arrives in OUR grid. No more locking, no more shooting...everything is dead...IT'S A LAG BABY BUT NOT LAG FOR THEM! So, our whole gang is completely incapacitated, with pictures frozen and all...but BOB gang doing their job totally relaxed and without any lag problems attached. They killed all of us, and they did that surprisingly fast and efficient. All we could do at time is to listen corp insurance mails arrives every 5 seconds or so. Funny thing is THEY should be the part with loading grid trouble considering we were in that grid few minutes before they arrived. And just before all of that happened (like 10 mins before accident) our whole gang witnessed the most peculiar EVE bugging we have ever seen (most of us had to relog after)...so...in all this paranoia I think that someone WAS MESSING WITH MATRIX (you know that cat thing don't you ) We sent petitions and we are waiting for answers from CCP...maybe THE ARCHITECT himself will reply...who knows...

D'ceet Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:18:00 - [231] Originally by: Aristrat Just something from my experience...last night our 22 man gang was roaming through Pure Blind. We have killed 10 or maybe more BOBs and pets in process when show started. Firstly we killed 3 more and jump in L-TS8S. We were at g8 and waiting. BOB & co started to jump and soon they started to show in our grid one by one. We naturally started to locking, shooting and killing them. 4 of them down nice and clean but more are arriving. At this time 50+ BOB's gang arrives in OUR grid. No more locking, no more shooting...everything is dead...IT'S A LAG BABY BUT NOT LAG FOR THEM! So, our whole gang is completely incapacitated, with pictures frozen and all...but BOB gang doing their job totally relaxed and without any lag problems attached. They killed all of us, and they did that surprisingly fast and efficient. All we could do at time is to listen corp insurance mails arrives every 5 seconds or so. Funny thing is THEY should be the part with loading grid trouble considering we were in that grid few minutes before they arrived. And just before all of that happened (like 10 mins before accident) our whole gang witnessed the most peculiar EVE bugging we have ever seen (most of us had to relog after)...so...in all this paranoia I think that someone WAS MESSING WITH MATRIX (you know that cat thing don't you ) We sent petitions and we are waiting for answers from CCP...maybe THE ARCHITECT himself will reply...who knows... tl;dr? short summary: BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
Skilo Brigada dos Reumaticos	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:23:00 - [232] Originally by: Orange Species Originally by: Luthien Firefoot You bunch of penguin shggin coks hav obviously decided to support BOB and I hope molles danish radiators burn the pre pubescent hairs off your god forsaken minute ballsacks Would now be a bad time to point out there are no penguins in the Northern Hemisphere & Molle is Swedish When i thought i had LOL all i could this came along!!!!!!!!!! I'm an ex-BNC member (will be again i guess hehehe) and do you really think BoB makes lag to win? There have been fights where i had to wait for 2 hours looking at a dark screen! And after all this time wouldn't CCP manage to find how lag was made? TO blaim BoB only works good for CCP because this way people don't look at them for responses and don't "force" them to solve the problem!
hantwo S.A.S Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:31:00 - [233] Originally by: Shardrael The really sad thing about this thread is the last time all the controversy came up bob et all that were defending them were giving the exact same responses only look how that turned out :/ not saying the op has a point just pointing out the past. i was thinking the same actually Why me eh?
The Yzzerman Wife BEATERS	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:38:00 - [234] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. You must be joking or be a forum wannebe, writing post just to get heard.
BANILI	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:46:00 - [235] BOB ARMY CANNOT BE STOPED! BOB ARMY IS INVINCIBLE! ALL HAIL BOB ARMY!
Brother Theos Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:50:00 - [236] Originally by: Gamesguy I've known you for like two years luthien, seriously, how can you be this stupid? To be fair, he is drunk and will almost certainly regret creating this thread in the morning. BT
Inturist Soviet Fleet	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:50:00 - [237] BEst Topic this week TY NC --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.08.31 07:50:00 - [238] Originally by: BANILI BOB ARMY CANNOT BE STOPED! BOB ARMY IS INVINCIBLE! ALL HAIL BOB ARMY! That sort of smack reminds me quite at the ASCN-BoB times. ASCN accused BoB of using unfair advantages also and BoB and their laughted them down and smacked them very hard. A bit later it was discovered that BoB had massive help of at least one developer from CCP, he was leading their capital fleet stuff and gave them t2 blueprints and every insight into game mechanics other people can only dream about. So ... if I were BoB I wouldn't surely be that loud-mouthed and bragging. Not with their proven history of cheating and dev help.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:24:00 - [239] Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 08:25:13 Originally by: Gnulpie Edited by: Gnulpie on 31/08/2008 08:04:33 Originally by: BANILI BOB ARMY CANNOT BE STOPED! BOB ARMY IS INVINCIBLE! ALL HAIL BOB ARMY! That sort of smack reminds me quite at the ASCN-BoB times. ASCN accused BoB of using unfair advantages also and BoB and their laughted them down and smacked them very hard. A bit later it was discovered that BoB had massive help of at least one developer from CCP, he was leading their capital fleet stuff and gave them t2 blueprints and every insight into game mechanics other people can only dream about. So ... if I were BoB I wouldn't surely be that loud-mouthed and bragging. Not with their proven history of cheating and dev help. Edit: I am not saying that BoB is still recieving dev help or that they are cheating their way around. I just say that they should tone down their flames especially in the light of their past. get a clue or get your facts straight. You are obviously just writing what you think happened.
Aprudena Gist GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:28:00 - [240] Originally by: wizzard66 Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 08:25:13 Originally by: Gnulpie Edited by: Gnulpie on 31/08/2008 08:04:33 Originally by: BANILI BOB ARMY CANNOT BE STOPED! BOB ARMY IS INVINCIBLE! ALL HAIL BOB ARMY! That sort of smack reminds me quite at the ASCN-BoB times. ASCN accused BoB of using unfair advantages also and BoB and their laughted them down and smacked them very hard. A bit later it was discovered that BoB had massive help of at least one developer from CCP, he was leading their capital fleet stuff and gave them t2 blueprints and every insight into game mechanics other people can only dream about. So ... if I were BoB I wouldn't surely be that loud-mouthed and bragging. Not with their proven history of cheating and dev help. Edit: I am not saying that BoB is still recieving dev help or that they are cheating their way around. I just say that they should tone down their flames especially in the light of their past. get a clue or get your facts straight. You are obviously just writing what you think happened. T20 did lead your captial fleet and gave you more T2 blueprints then those that were taken back among other things and you know it. Kugs was the only reason that came to pass you guys would have never fessed up or done anything about it otherwise.

wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:30:00 - [241] Originally by: Aprudena Gist T20 did lead your captial fleet and gave you more T2 blueprints then those that were taken back among other things and you know it. Kugs was the only reason that came to pass you guys would have never fessed up or done anything about it otherwise. sure. Want some tissues??
Resipsa Loquitor Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:32:00 - [242] Posting in teh bestest threadz eva!
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:33:00 - [243] Re-activating account to post in an epic thread. Haven't seen a good one like this for years.. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. .... Playing EVE on easy mode since May 2003.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:40:00 - [244] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Re-activating account to post in an epic thread. Haven't seen a good one like this for years.. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. fitzeh!!!! return pls!!
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:42:00 - [245] Originally by: wizzard66 get a clue or get your facts straight. You are obviously just writing what you think happened. So you are saying that there was never any dev help for bob? Intense and very discussions about game mechanics between bob players and developers? (maybe not in the intend to abuse it but to make eve a better game, still the result is the same) So you are saying that there was no cheating involved and massive interference from ccp in favour of bob? t20? Never happened? All my imagination? Uhm... I give CCP the benefit of the doubt and assume (until someone proves me otherwise) that they got the dev cheating rooted out for quite a while now and that they are doing okay with their IA guy. Also I will give BoB the benefits of doubt that they are not using special powers to achieve their goals and that they just worked out through trial and error and experiment how to use lag in their favour, how to avoid it best as possible and so on. But, the bobbits should not play innocent and say that cheating never happened and everything was only the imagination of sour losers, maybe some official ccp statements should remind them then on their own history then. The funny thing about the op is though, that I didn't hear any complains about lag when bob got slaughtered at those cyno jammers when MAX started. There were hundreds of BS losses by the bobbits, many due to lag. Didn't hear the op crying out about foul play there though. This dimishes the seriousness of the post a 'little' bit.
wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 08:45:00 - [246] Originally by: Gnulpie Originally by: wizzard66 get a clue or get your facts straight. You are obviously just writing what you think happened. So you are saying that there was never any dev help for bob? Intense and very discussions about game mechanics between bob players and developers? (maybe not in the intend to abuse it but to make eve a better game, still the result is the same) So you are saying that there was no cheating involved and massive interference from ccp in favour of bob? t20? Never happened? All my imagination? Uhm... I give CCP the benefit of the doubt and assume (until someone proves me otherwise) that they got the dev cheating rooted out for quite a while now and that they are doing okay with their IA guy. Also I will give BoB the benefits of doubt that they are not using special powers to achieve their goals and that they just worked out through trial and error and experiment how to use lag in their favour, how to avoid it best as possible and so on. But, the bobbits should not play innocent and say that cheating never happened and everything was only the imagination of sour losers, maybe some official ccp statements should remind them then on their own history then. The funny thing about the op is though, that I didn't hear any complains about lag when bob got slaughtered at those cyno jammers when MAX started. There were hundreds of BS losses by the bobbits, many due to lag. Didn't hear the op crying out about foul play there though. This dimishes the seriousness of the post a 'little' bit. Yawn Getting old sooo fast.... Try to find something new dude
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:29:00 - [247] Can you spot the evil internet spaceship overlords fake ninja edit: we are so cheating If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:31:00 - [248] I think its funny that NC, the only group in eve that was not destroyed due to lagging out their enemies, is now complaining about lag. I feel sorry for you guys when you hit Jita..... -- Billion Isk Mission
DogTyred Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:33:00 - [249] "This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer." MAX. removing lag from Eve one jammer at a time
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:33:00 - [250] Well, yes, that this whine comes from an NC member makes the tears all the more delicious. Also, funny how I've been in BoB gangs and we've experienced horrendous lag too, which resulted in my GBC alt losing his ship on more than one occasion. Why didn't they activate the special lagsploit button then? I hate you BoB. Give me your special button. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05

Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:37:00 - [251] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. Dude, shooting belt rats is not pvp. -- Billion Isk Mission
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:37:00 - [252] WTS: lagsploitbomb; high slot, uses 1 CPU, 1 TF; slightly used, only used against NC, 49-U and F-T.
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:38:00 - [253] One of the greatest threads ever. Thankyou so much everyone! I havent cried this much since I was dumped by my internet supermodel kickboxing girlfriend.
Von Kleist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:48:00 - [254] Edited by: Von Kleist on 31/08/2008 09:48:42 Originally by: Eskalin Can you spot the evil internet spaceship overlords fake ninja edit: we are so cheating that was good. But seriously, to the OP, shut up. You just sound like another pubbie moron (blending into the rest of eve quite well, mind you). Everyone knows bob cheated, its not new news. Just take pleasure in the fact that you beat the people that made the game when you win. They bleed allies and regions like stuck pigs, you just need some grit. Like was previously posted, all that's really left of them is a steaming pile of leftovers of failed alliances that have all been killed off before (mostly by us). Even at their best, they couldn't intimidate a bunch of noobs that lived in syndicate. Quit being a ***** and get off your ass, kill some sh*t instead of whining about it on the forums. Lag happens to everyone, it's just that they may have a few months of instruction on game mechanics before its released to others, and they spawn their own stuff, and they cheat in ways not even brought up yet, and the people that make the game were on their side, and if anyone said anything about it they got banned, but y'know, theyre really still quite good at losing space. Just give them a chance. edit: for paragraphs and nudity
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:51:00 - [255] Wow, one of the worst threads of this year. Congratulations.
hmmmmmmmm Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 09:54:00 - [256] "This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer." well we turn off our lag creators wen we thake cyno jammer down,btw i fit 2 in my high slots
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:06:00 - [257] Originally by: Von Kleist that was good. But seriously, to the OP, shut up. You just sound like another pubbie moron (blending into the rest of eve quite well, mind you). Everyone knows bob cheated, its not new news. Just take pleasure in the fact that you beat the people that made the game when you win. They bleed allies and regions like stuck pigs, you just need some grit. Like was previously posted, all that's really left of them is a steaming pile of leftovers of failed alliances that have all been killed off before (mostly by us). Even at their best, they couldn't intimidate a bunch of noobs that lived in syndicate. Quit being a ***** and get off your ass, kill some sh*t instead of whining about it on the forums. Lag happens to everyone, it's just that they may have a few months of instruction on game mechanics before its released to others, and they spawn their own stuff, and they cheat in ways not even brought up yet, and the people that make the game were on their side, and if anyone said anything about it they got banned, but y'know, theyre really still quite good at losing space. Just give them a chance. edit: for paragraphs and nudity Look at the funny goon taking his e-complishments so seriously. This is why you make SA laugh ... not a good laugh, the embarrassed laugh given by the owner of the dog which has just mounted your leg. Terrible. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
paracidic Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:30:00 - [258] Originally by: Smith One of the greatest threads ever. Thankyou so much everyone! I havent cried this much since I was dumped by my internet supermodel kickboxing girlfriend. Was that at the train station in Copenhagen? *********************************************** Everything ever written by a goon or DS1 member is absolutely factual and should not be challanged in anyway.
Jogyn The Priory	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:32:00 - [259] I log into CAOD for the first time in 24 hours, notice a new thread with 11 (ELEVEN!) pages of replies. I go all "OMG a new and hopefully interesting thread!" A nd then I get all depressed when I notice it is another "Omg, the guys we are fighting had lots in a system so it lagged and we could not go in, that NEVER happends when we have our 500 man blob in system, TBH! And that is why I think they are cheating! I have played this game for 4 (FOUR!) years and it is ONLY BOB THAT CREATE LAG!" Thank god there is other forums about this game, even if they are starting to turn more and more into CAOD they havent sunk this low atleast.
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:35:00 - [260] I thought this thread couldn't get better, then someone brings up the Google Adsense ads on our killboard.. Epic. Go on, give it a press!

animal man Gallente The Accursed	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:37:00 - [261] Originally by: Von Kleist Edited by: Von Kleist on 31/08/2008 09:48:42 Originally by: Eskalin Can you spot the evil internet spaceship overlords fake ninja edit: we are so cheating that was good. But seriously, to the OP, shut up. You just sound like another pubbie moron (blending into the rest of eve quite well, mind you). Everyone knows bob cheated, its not new news. Just take pleasure in the fact that you beat the people that made the game when you win. They bleed allies and regions like stuck pigs, you just need some grit. Like was previously posted, all that's really left of them is a steaming pile of leftovers of failed alliances that have all been killed off before (mostly by us). Even at their best, they couldn't intimidate a bunch of noobs that lived in syndicate. Quit being a *** and get off your ass, kill some sht instead of whining about it on the forums.* Lag happens to everyone, it's just that they may have a few months of instruction on game mechanics before its released to others, and they spawn their own stuff, and they cheat in ways not even brought up yet, and the people that make the game were on their side, and if anyone said anything about it they got banned, but y'know, theyre really still quite good at losing space. Just give them a chance. edit: for paragraphs and nudity You should practice some of your own advice, your rant is almost as big as the op's!
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:40:00 - [262] Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! -fdrl Goonswarm old timer. AKA "the dude"
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:43:00 - [263] Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:46:00 - [264] Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... Did BoB cheat in the past? Yes. It happened long time ago and there was even a CCP blog entry about it. Did BoB recruit among alliances that we killed or helped to kill? Hell, RKK is mostly shinra, not to mention the ex RISE, Veritas, FIX, and so on. Did BoB lose in the past? Yes, when people stopped buying that "invincible" crap and started fighting back. -fdrl Goonswarm old timer. AKA "the dude"
Shirei Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 10:46:00 - [265] Originally by: Spathi I thought this thread couldn't get better, then someone brings up the Google Adsense ads on our killboard.. Epic. Ahh.. google evidence. A quick check reveals: 'BoB cheating' -> 3,540,000 results 'NC cheating' -> 1,570,000 results 'goons cheating' -> 154,000 results The plot thickens. The first link you get for 'BoB cheating' is also very revealing.
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:08:00 - [266] Edited by: Spathi on 31/08/2008 11:08:51 Originally by: Seldarine So basically you have been role-playing a pvper for 4 years and bob wont join your club ? His club initiation ceremony has some sick, perverted things in it.. Only Finfleet/Orange Species would be interested in some of that and the rest is just shocking. Obviously any penguins are for OS :p Page 12 snipa, gief boobies! Go on, give it a press!
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:11:00 - [267] This has to be luthiens most successful post yet, 12 pages and its been open for more than 12 hours. Gotta give him credit.... atleast hes learning....
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:12:00 - [268] One World! One Dream! -------------
AnkorWat Pator Tech School	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:15:00 - [269] Edited by: AnkorWat on 31/08/2008 11:16:06 Luthien Firefoot What you really asking here is: that ccp change the game for YOU in order to help you win IN game. Your asking CCP to nerf-Bob Do ONLY roaming gang warefare and STFU if you can't handle the lag in large-warfare.
Minigin eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:19:00 - [270] Edited by: Minigin on 31/08/2008 11:18:56 this thread is worthy of my presence. that is all. . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.

Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:31:00 - [271] ...what happened here?
Vecila Live and Learn Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:35:00 - [272] Can't agree with the op on blame bob (props for trying m8 ) but he is right about the situation. Although, around tris pew pew zone the past week there has been some odd lag spikes and waves, for both sides, and it appears to have spread across the region. Bob didn't take that jammer down by shear skill or numbers, they took it down because the defending fleet lagged so badly, or so im told, they couldn't enter system or even fuel a jb but they took it down, and sadly in the end, that's all that counts. Being fair, i was over 20 jumps away at the time, minding my own business and i had to have a gm move me twice so i doubt it was as isolated as the op makes out. Oh yes, and death to bob
Pattonator Shinra	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:41:00 - [273] I'm still confused. I'm in a GBC corp yet I keep dying due to lag. Two of the last three loses of mine I was killed by ships that didn't even show up on my overview and none of my mods were activating. I'm not whining just making the point that lag goes both ways. I think that we all wish that CCP would fix these issues instead of putting their resources towards their nerf bats or doing worthless things such as "walking in stations". CCP doesn't even have a way to track lag or to know when its happening. I'm sure that we've all received petition responses saying that the server-side log doesn't show any problems. Lag sucks but it goes both ways.
Ace Frehley Minmatar The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 11:43:00 - [274] As a fellow swede I get very sad, when you point at and laugh at us cuz we feckin penguins I like them, they are so soft, and they can both take and give, so please ya brittish teaspoon fecker, I dont like you Tjis is post likes this, what makes me wanna join BoB
flakeys Omerta Squadron Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:00:00 - [275] If no one mentioned it yet OP .. can i have your stuff?
Stasheddy	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:04:00 - [276] Back in the late 80's when I would play modem wars on my Commodore 64 against my brother, I knew he was receiving help from someone. He just couldn't have been that much better then me that he would win every time. Now I finally come to realize that Iceland and their penguins had something to do with it. Thanks Luthien!!! No more therapy It's always better to find something to blame other then yourself. How many other mmorpg's has a server as big as Eve-online? Could it be that technology is still being developed that will take care of the lag and that maybe there isn't anyone to blame? Just pew pew pew, then wake up in a station, buy another clone, ship and mods and go pew pew pew some more. If your not having fun then do something else.
Crohnx Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:04:00 - [277] this thread made my hangover go away for little bit , thx NC
Kilostream Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:17:00 - [278] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ....it's not a loss / emo post it's a 'read and digest post'.... I have read and digested....Now I've got the sh*ts
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:20:00 - [279] Originally by: Kilostream Originally by: Luthien Firefoot ....it's not a loss / emo post it's a 'read and digest post'.... I have read and digested....Now I've got the sh*ts It is the water in the north tbh... Go on, give it a press!
Kilostream Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:21:00 - [280] Originally by: Spathi It is the water in the north tbh... Ya - even the penguins won't swim in it.....

Kiri Croft Amarr New World Industries	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:23:00 - [281] To the OP - This is a joke right? becuase its hilerious
Pistonbroke D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:31:00 - [282] Posting in an epic thread. GBC: Reverese the polarity of the spatial distortion amplifiers. NC: OMG Traffic Control!
DarthJosh Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:36:00 - [283] Edited by: DarthJosh on 31/08/2008 12:41:33 Well im new to bob, and i was greeted with this evemail! Quote: Dear Customer, Welcome to BoB Your request for GM status has been granted. Please do not abuse. Here are some guidelines: 1. You may spawn 1 T2 bpo per month. 100 Bilion isk has been transffered into your acount. 2. You may spawn officers at the rate of 2 per week per character. 3. To cause the enemy to lag out use "./set vat team2_lulz 1", to nullify the effect replace 1 with 0. 4. Sacreficial offerings to SirMolle may only be 12 year old boys, and various fruits. 5. Dianbolic offerings are made every other monday. 6. To win eve, please contact Senior CCP staff. `tis true edit: mail has typos, failure. - Desusigs!
Lasakywa Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:46:00 - [284] 12 pages of 'dis
Kirana Si House of Lubrication	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:46:00 - [285] GBC is also responceable that NC hears the latest news every time they log into EVE
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:52:00 - [286] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... Did BoB cheat in the past? Yes. It happened long time ago and there was even a CCP blog entry about it. Did BoB recruit among alliances that we killed or helped to kill? Hell, RKK is mostly shinra, not to mention the ex RISE, Veritas, FIX, and so on. Did BoB lose in the past? Yes, when people stopped buying that "invincible" crap and started fighting back. Lets compare...... Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures). BoB: A single BoB member (who is no longer a member) abuses his job at CCP. I'll agree he did not get disciplined nearly hard enough. Goons: Deliberate and publicly announced attempt to make game unplayeble when their complaints about "Band of developers" are not treated as gospel, all at the SAME TIME that Goons had more developer members than BoB BoB: Yep, we "were" guilty of using non-ingame methods to file petitions to get faster results. This is the one "crime" that really sticks. Goons: Goon GM abuses his Job by interfering with BoB capital operations. BoB: BoB is VICTIM of POS bowling, CCP declares POS Bowling it to be legal. BoB does POS Bowling. CCP declares it to be illegal. BoB stops POS bowling. Goons: Sharkbait does his JOB. Goons see a chance to twist truth to make an issue where there is none, and leap at the opportunity..... I know this post wont stop the lie machine, or even slow it down, but its fairly sure to **** off those trying to re-write history. Play nice while you butcher each other.
Fitz Chivalry eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 12:56:00 - [287] Edited by: Fitz Chivalry on 31/08/2008 12:56:08 Bob would never engage in any cheating or sploiting of dubious game mechanics. edit: i cant even spell bob correctly
slip66 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:14:00 - [288] Originally by: Aales Eae I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? lol, ever notice when you goto random websites you see adverts for EVE...
HotSeat Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:31:00 - [289] Originally by: paracidic Edited by: paracidic on 31/08/2008 02:28:53 Originally by: HotSeat CCP helping Bob cheat?.... it's not like anyone caught them doing this.... oh wait, someone DID !! Can't wait till all the WOW players CCP plans on taking away from Blizzard finds out what goes on behind the scene's You embarrass BOS. And to the poster before me. Love the tinfoil! Sorry but you should be the one embarrassed, knowing full well any so called "victory" is based on a massive isk seeding to your alliance, or do you really sleep at night believing Bob was only helped once? Join another alliance, knowing full well any victory is then based on skill and hard work, trust me the rewards are greater in the end Sov 4 is nothing compared to the Power of the Grief !!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:38:00 - [290] Originally by: HotSeat Sorry but you should be the one embarrassed, knowing full well any so called "victory" is based on a massive isk seeding to your alliance, or do you really sleep at night believing Bob was only helped once? Or that it was only BoB. See how speculation works? Eve-Online: The Text Adventure

wizzard66 Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 13:46:00 - [291] Edited by: wizzard66 on 31/08/2008 13:47:48 Originally by: HotSeat Sorry but you should be the one embarrassed, knowing full well any so called "victory" is based on a massive isk seeding to your alliance, or do you really sleep at night believing Bob was only helped once? Typical womans reply (and i should know, i was one before the operation)
Onchas Erivvia Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:08:00 - [292] Originally by: HotSeat Sorry but you should be the one embarrassed, knowing full well any so called "victory" is based on a massive isk seeding to your alliance, or do you really sleep at night believing Bob was only helped once? Join another alliance, knowing full well any victory is then based on skill and hard work, trust me the rewards are greater in the end Do you know how much work it took to build up our penguin backbone? --- "Let's all get really angry and serious about make believe spaceships and space rocks!" - Description of Eve Forum at SomethingAwful.com
Prefect Six Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:09:00 - [293] poasting in a thread
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:17:00 - [294] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures) There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support).
Athena Rivera Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:21:00 - [295] wow, I wake up next day and it's about 13 pages which is up from 3-4 pages. This is indeed the absolute best thread in the many years of eve. Even my Pen^Pen approves too since he nods. <3
whisk The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:28:00 - [296] Edited by: whisk on 31/08/2008 14:28:31 I gues this thread havnt been locked yet in fear of another spam thread about how BoB Gm locked this thread? Adapt or Die
Ace Frehley Minmatar The Movement	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:31:00 - [297] Originally by: Venomire Originally by: Sergeant Spot Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures) There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support). With the same attitude, it was great that a gm in BoB abused his power to spawn BPO¦s, so CCP streanghten their control of gm¦s and devs ingame Carola HSggkvist, stop spin
Torso Errata Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:40:00 - [298] TL;DR. I was amongst those with Luthien trying to make an entry to ZLZ yesterday. His account of what we experienced is factual. Lag continued well after the cynojammer was down, however, and lightened up only after the gate battle/massacre and BoB switched to carrier fighters to deal with POS modules. An earlier thread here about fighters being lag friendly seems to be verified. Which means there is something horribly, terribly flawed about how the server side handles heavy concentrations of turret ships. BoB understands lag, and uses it to their advantage. They aren't the only ones. I've read here that Goons used to copy zillions of bookmarks to achieve the same end. I haven't haven't heard allegations of the same sort of exploits from BoB. But they do understand the lag game, and the advantage of loading the grid first, or at least loading it in its entirety before pew pew commences. The real issue here is that load is rebalanced accross the Tranquility cluster only at downtime. The node that ZLZ occupied probably managed most of the rest of Vale and perhaps some surrounding null sec as well. And most of null-sec, most of the time, is pretty barren wilderness. There's no way in the present code base to dynamically rebalance load. But suprise attacks are suprises to only one party, and I think everyone would have more fun if aggressors in big blob sovereignty battles notified CCP well before DT, so that the nodes could be reinforced.
Salastil Gallente Stuck in Doorway	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:45:00 - [299] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... Did BoB cheat in the past? Yes. It happened long time ago and there was even a CCP blog entry about it. Did BoB recruit among alliances that we killed or helped to kill? Hell, RKK is mostly shinra, not to mention the ex RISE, Veritas, FIX, and so on. Did BoB lose in the past? Yes, when people stopped buying that "invincible" crap and started fighting back. Lets compare...... Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures). BoB: A single BoB member (who is no longer a member) abuses his job at CCP. I'll agree he did not get disciplined nearly hard enough. Goons: Deliberate and publicly announced attempt to make game unplayeble when their complaints about "Band of developers" are not treated as gospel, all at the SAME TIME that Goons had more developer members than BoB BoB: Yep, we "were" guilty of using non-ingame methods to file petitions to get faster results. This is the one "crime" that really sticks. Goons: Goon GM abuses his Job by interfering with BoB capital operations. BoB: BoB is VICTIM of POS bowling, CCP declares POS Bowling it to be legal. BoB does POS Bowling. CCP declares it to be illegal. BoB stops POS bowling. Goons: Sharkbait does his JOB. Goons see a chance to twist truth to make an issue where there is none, and leap at the opportunity..... I know this post wont stop the lie machine, or even slow it down, but its fairly sure to **** off those trying to re-write history. I love how you drug all that out. You seem to forget about GM with full officer geared ships just randomly suiciding into BoB gatecamps and a day after "lol chow we're comming for your targets" we had GM warping from POS to POS in our capital systems. The fact that CCP knew by name the player who was making the portrait pack and decided to do nothing except incorporate a similar system into the game speaks of "hacking the client" other groups like ISS used the portrait pack too. Sharkbait did NOT do his job to completion as he is supposed to inform the CEO that he is joining his corporation. He came, gave himself director roles then left in the timeframe that DS1 was building the HZF outpost and planning to build a Titan. There was reason for alarm considering our experience with the CCP staff in that timeframe.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:48:00 - [300] If you have evidence of anyone in the alliance cheating in any way, report to leadership and petition to CCP immediately. We don't really care if others keep on repeating the one time CCP screwed over our reputation just to harass our membership, but the code of discipline in the alliance is still as strict as ever when it comes to how EVE is played. We are stricter than any other alliance in the game. Actually, it works to our advantage that our enemies think we cheat, especially if they are petulant about it. This is the price we pay for being the best.

Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 14:49:00 - [301] This thread is SO about this song Eve Online is for BoB Linkage Play nice while you butcher each other.
boo3916 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 15:01:00 - [302] lag, sux u just gotta learn to live with it and minimise it as best u can. my pc is now 5 years old and i cope there are many ways to reduce lag
Wulfgard Minmatar Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.08.31 15:16:00 - [303] Originally by: Torso Errata TL;DR. BoB understands lag, and uses it to their advantage. They aren't the only ones. I've read here that Goons used to copy zillions of bookmarks to achieve the same end. I haven't haven't heard allegations of the same sort of exploits from BoB. But they do understand the lag game, and the advantage of loading the grid first, or at least loading it in its entirety before pew pew commences. Ahh, finally a post that makes sense among the mindless drivel. It seems that what matters in this game isn't how good your strategy/fleet/FC is but how developed is your understanding of lag patterns. It didn't matter as much in the early days but now with multi billions ships involved... In order to be a winner, you need Lag Warfare trained to V, all others skills are truelly secondary
Martinez Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 15:17:00 - [304] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: Kaaii What did you loose? nothing, i warped out it's not a loss / emo post it's a 'read and digest post' Hold on!!!! Slam on the breaks!!!! You where able to warp? You must be a dev!!!!!
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 15:23:00 - [305] Originally by: Martinez Hold on!!!! Slam on the breaks!!!! You where able to warp? You must be a dev!!!!! No, st00pid, its clearly his low character id which gives him an advantage. 4 Years would make it very low. Go on, give it a press!
Scoobie Snacks Ship Solutions Incorporated	Posted - 2008.08.31 15:34:00 - [306] Luthien Firefoot, The reason why the systems lag like that are because of drones. Often, if you have a 200 man fleet - or sometimes as few as 100 - when you attack pos structures with massive amounts of drones it will lag out an entire node to a crawl. This is a game mechanics problems as well as a server performance problem. This is a well known fact in alliance warfare, and unless a node is upgraded; you can expect more of the same.
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:00:00 - [307] Props to RZR in this thread. Remarkable restraint.
Lrrp Minmatar The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:02:00 - [308] Originally by: Scoobie Snacks Luthien Firefoot, The reason why the systems lag like that are because of drones. Often, if you have a 200 man fleet - or sometimes as few as 100 - when you attack pos structures with massive amounts of drones it will lag out an entire node to a crawl. This is a game mechanics problems as well as a server performance problem. This is a well known fact in alliance warfare, and unless a node is upgraded; you can expect more of the same. While we all know this to be the case yet, when you petition for a extreme lag ship loss, you get, "There must be a software conflict", or "Your internet connection is at fault". As long as CCP does not acknowledge their deficiencies they do not have to reimburse you for your ship.
NAT Mav TribalWar Inc	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:03:00 - [309] The solution to your problem is obvious. JOIN BOB!
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:15:00 - [310] Originally by: whisk Edited by: whisk on 31/08/2008 14:28:31 I gues this thread havnt been locked yet in fear of another spam thread about how BoB Gm locked this thread? It's because Orange Species hasn't signed on to MSN yet. Butter Dog = Bitter Puppy

Isanoe nothwood D00M.	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:19:00 - [311] 10/10 Emorage thread of the year. Gratz Luthien.
Marco Ragnos eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:26:00 - [312] Originally by: Wulfgard Originally by: Torso Errata TL;DR. BoB understands lag, and uses it to their advantage. They aren't the only ones. I've read here that Goons used to copy zillions of bookmarks to achieve the same end. I haven't haven't heard allegations of the same sort of exploits from BoB. But they do understand the lag game, and the advantage of loading the grid first, or at least loading it in its entirety before pew pew commences. Ahh, finally a post that makes sense among the mindless drivel. It seems that what matters in this game isn't how good your strategy/fleet/FC is but how developed is your understanding of lag patterns. It didn't matter as much in the early days but now with multi billions ships involved... In order to be a winner, you need Lag Warfare trained to V, all others skills are truelly secondary Im only a lowly grunt and even i know... 1) Whoever is on grid first (ADVANTAGE) 2) Drones= Lag (Fighters=Crazy Lag) There are a few small other things/factors- EVEmail me for LAG UNIVERSITY REGISTRATION (100mil isk for all your lagging needs) Let this be a lesson to people to always have scouts in and around all their important systems so you can protect somthing before its too late (lagged) I mean...did nobody notice all those BOB ships hanging around ZLZ? lol...this just sounds like pure didnt have scouts in place...and it doesnt seem like they have spies in bob either (but then again if they had a character in BOB, why would they play for pure? =\ ) btw- i think last night TVN was shareing the NODE with ZLZ--- we had 100+ peeps in there too.. so it is totally understandable where the lag came from. Only thing that needs to happen is for CCP to figure out which systems need to be reinforced in a more timely manner.
Omegaxgp Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:35:00 - [313] I post here with my Icelandic Penguin at my side and come to realize that the OP has continued on and on about losing a fight to BOB & GBC. It is never the first time that a post about my own alliance has created more controversy. Lot of people welcome the emorage since that is what fuels many to continue to beat down on the matter at hand. When you have 400+ people in one system and 300 or more right next door, it is difficult to have a fight. The experience of playing this game comes to a steady halt as lot of people in empire have difficulty traveling as one cluster is reinforced to compensate for the sov battle going on at the time. While one side gathers the numbers and the other is ready to put it all on the line, there is no way that you can say that we do not get lag too. The truth is NC brings a large fleet but does nothing apart from sitting behind pos shields or camping a system day in and day out. Then when GBC comes, they're still in the same place as they were before day in and day out behind pos shields or camping that one system again. The progress overtime showed that the motivation of the NC dwindled as each system and station system fell to GBC. Most of them fell back or made their own variation of a 'Tactical Withdrawal' of Microgang Rotations. Pure and Hydra were falling victim to a rekindled Triumvirate in which MM, Razor and close allies moved to TVn to support their friends. The fall of VFK came which prompted GBC to move over to Vale which is where it stands now. How this next upcoming chapter of our campaign will be written we will never know for sure. However, the fact still remains, I will be around and so will many of our allies while I leave a bit of advice for the OP: Sort Your Life Out!
Seth Quantix Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:44:00 - [314] 9/10 Next time you get Emo you MUST post. Best read in a wile.
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:47:00 - [315] Originally by: Omegaxgp I post here with my Icelandic Penguin at my side and come to realize that the OP has continued on and on about losing a fight to BOB & GBC. It is never the first time that a post about my own alliance has created more controversy. Lot of people welcome the emorage since that is what fuels many to continue to beat down on the matter at hand. When you have 400+ people in one system and 300 or more right next door, it is difficult to have a fight. The experience of playing this game comes to a steady halt as lot of people in empire have difficulty traveling as one cluster is reinforced to compensate for the sov battle going on at the time. While one side gathers the numbers and the other is ready to put it all on the line, there is no way that you can say that we do not get lag too. The truth is NC brings a large fleet but does nothing apart from sitting behind pos shields or camping a system day in and day out. Then when GBC comes, they're still in the same place as they were before day in and day out behind pos shields or camping that one system again. The progress overtime showed that the motivation of the NC dwindled as each system and station system fell to GBC. Most of them fell back or made their own variation of a 'Tactical Withdrawal' of Microgang Rotations. Pure and Hydra were falling victim to a rekindled Triumvirate in which MM, Razor and close allies moved to TVn to support their friends. The fall of VFK came which prompted GBC to move over to Vale which is where it stands now. How this next upcoming chapter of our campaign will be written we will never know for sure. However, the fact still remains, I will be around and so will many of our allies while I leave a bit of advice for the OP: Sort Your Life Out! Shut up you evil cheaters! MSN FTW! Butter Dog = Bitter Puppy
scim atar Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:48:00 - [316] All I can say OMFG ROFL
Noshi Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 16:50:00 - [317] Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42 Originally by: Venomire There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support). What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned. Nice work. /noshi
Ijsal Qladic	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:04:00 - [318] Edited by: Ijsal Qladic on 31/08/2008 17:06:38 Edited by: Ijsal Qladic on 31/08/2008 17:04:21 Sorry, I have to post in response. *see post below. Edited post cause I used my alt.
Ari Xali Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:05:00 - [319] Sorry, I have to post in response. I have flown against and with BoB, I was with Tribal Souls when BoB liked to come down for some fun and games. I flew with BoB in Executive Outcomes and later just in RDEX. When In tribal Souls we had a fleet battle where a ship that had several hundred BM's in it's hold was killed - suddenly there was the most awful lag. We accused BoB at the time of Lag tactics. However, I have flown with BoB, and I learned how they win battles. They are simply better....Better prepared, better ships, better tactics, better FC's. You want to beat BoB. be as good as they are. It's as simple as. Don't whine. Just do. *Sorry reposted cause used my alt char not my main. Roughnecks Forever!
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:12:00 - [320] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Props to RZR in this thread. Remarkable restraint. Agreed. Bob on the other hand.. -

Gungankllr Caldari Isonami Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:18:00 - [321] I made one of these posts once. I want to hide in the basement when I look at it... lol While we were getting our asses handed to us a few years back, people came with the "OMG BoB must be cheating" posts with FURIOUS ANGER AND NERDRAGE. Everybody is infiltrated with alts, guys. Don't you think that if there was a magic lag tactic that they knew about somebody would have dropped the evidence on the forums by now?
Lee ChanKa Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:24:00 - [322] NERF THE DRAKE
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:32:00 - [323] Originally by: Gungankllr I made one of these posts once. I want to hide in the basement when I look at it... lol While we were getting our asses handed to us a few years back, people came with the "OMG BoB must be cheating" posts with FURIOUS ANGER AND NERDRAGE. Everybody is infiltrated with alts, guys. Don't you think that if there was a magic lag tactic that they knew about somebody would have dropped the evidence on the forums by now? Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool". Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned". Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing... -fdrl Goonswarm old timer. AKA "the dude"
Noshi Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:39:00 - [324] Originally by: Sergeant Spot Goons: Goon LEADERSHIP "hacks" the client to make it easier to spot friends and enemies in local. To date, to the best of knowledge, Goons, and ONLY Goons, have their leadership PROVEN to approve and use client hacks. (For those who dont know, before local had the little "+", "-", etc Goons hacked the client and replaced the pictures). Goons: Deliberate and publicly announced attempt to make game unplayeble when their complaints about "Band of developers" are not treated as gospel, all at the SAME TIME that Goons had more developer members than BoB Goons: Goon GM abuses his Job by interfering with BoB capital operations. Goons: Sharkbait does his JOB. Goons see a chance to twist truth to make an issue where there is none, and leap at the opportunity..... Goons make me so sad when they cheat :(((( /noshi
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:43:00 - [325] Originally by: Noshi Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42 Originally by: Venomire There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support). What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned. Nice work. Why, there is a simple explanation. I'm GM Gandalf.
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:48:00 - [326] Originally by: Fanduril Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool". Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned". Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing... I have a similar story with BoB and log on traps they used to do to us in great northern war, as soon as we started using the same tactic it became a bannable offense. -
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:49:00 - [327] Originally by: Noshi Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42 Originally by: Venomire There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support). What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned. Nice work. I know, everyone hates pictures of kittens. :(
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:50:00 - [328] Originally by: Presidio Originally by: Fanduril Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool". Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned". Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing... I have a similar story with BoB and log on traps they used to do to us in great northern war, as soon as we started using the same tactic it became a bannable offense. Since when have log on traps been bannable offenses?
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:53:00 - [329] Originally by: DaiTengu I know, everyone hates pictures of kittens. :( I will never understand all the hate over kittens.
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 17:54:00 - [330] Edited by: Presidio on 31/08/2008 17:57:29 Originally by: DaiTengu Originally by: Presidio Originally by: Fanduril Remember POS bowling? BoB did it for months, and when petitioned the official answer was "it's cool". Then one day BoB gets bowled and... within hours a GM appears in local and says "that's very not cool, do it again and get banned". Yeah, then you add rigged events, favours, GMs handing free shit, Aurora and ISD managers completely bent to Molle's will, a CCP worker spawning t2 bpos for himself, with his corpmates knowing... I have a similar story with BoB and log on traps they used to do to us in great northern war, as soon as we started using the same tactic it became a bannable offense. Since when have log on traps been bannable offenses? CCP changed the log on trap game mechanics by making logged of ships warp of the spot they were at. They used to log off in front of player conquerable station for example and log on their fleet on at the same time and immediately start shooting. But before they made this change we were warned not to use this tactic or else the ban stick. -

rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:01:00 - [331] Originally by: Venomire Originally by: Noshi Edited by: Noshi on 31/08/2008 16:50:42 Originally by: Venomire There was no hacking involved, at all. Prior to it's switch to unicode, the client was hacked to translate it into languages other then english, but that wasn't done by us. Both things, however, were seen as "good things" by CCP and later implemented in the client (standings in local, unicode support). What doesn't make sense to me is how your able to even post? After the picture you posted the other day, anyone else would have been perma-banned. Nice work. Why, there is a simple explanation. I'm GM Gandalf. OH HI THERE.
Kirana Si House of Lubrication	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:03:00 - [332] I feel the nerd rage growing in this thread, will we soon see another: Lets blue all each other and go for Delve
Rudy Metallo Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.08.31 18:55:00 - [333] How about we all get together and have a nice little orgy? It'll take your mind off things... BoB has and always will be controlled by GMs. It's ok though, cause its members are employing plausible deniability. Like the President doesn't know that Area 51 exists, the members of BoB are content in the ignorance that they obviously have some sort of Guardian Member, most likely a few, watching over them, and facilitating their luck. --
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:07:00 - [334] Yup, we are all dev alts, special clients, lower ids, the whole bang.
Skilo Brigada dos Reumaticos	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:09:00 - [335] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... Did BoB cheat in the past? Yes. It happened long time ago and there was even a CCP blog entry about it. Did BoB recruit among alliances that we killed or helped to kill? Hell, RKK is mostly shinra, not to mention the ex RISE, Veritas, FIX, and so on. Did BoB lose in the past? Yes, when people stopped buying that "invincible" crap and started fighting back. And i'm still wondering how was dinner in Nol?
Squirl	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:12:00 - [336] About the dining in NOL, How on earth can an alliance who has been constantly fighting, be able to create not 1. not 2, but at least 12 Titans??? Skillz? LOL yeah right, no dev whaTSOEVER i SWEAR!!
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:13:00 - [337] Presidio, your selective memory is reaching into fiction for inspiration. There were accusations of logon traps, but for a completely different reason. PA complained because BoB members left TS open during slow periods and would log in whenever somebody sounded the alarm that something was happening. The same with alliances and IRC/Jabber today. The mechanics were changed shortly after CE turned it into a surgical strike tactic for entire gangs. PS: Login traps are bannable offenses Mr Goon, its just that you can't perform one under current mechanics unless you're cheating in some other way.
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:18:00 - [338] Originally by: Squirl About the dining in NOL, How on earth can an alliance who has been constantly fighting, be able to create not 1. not 2, but at least 12 Titans??? Skillz? LOL yeah right, no dev whaTSOEVER i SWEAR!! I blame RKK, the bloody loot *****s.
Tobruk Black Omega Security	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:24:00 - [339] http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424 had someone posted a thread 2 years ago saying BOB was getting t2 bpos spawned for them by a Dev he would have been laughed at... ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Luciender Gallente Relentless Construction Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:30:00 - [340] Originally by: Squirl About the dining in NOL, How on earth can an alliance who has been constantly fighting, be able to create not 1. not 2, but at least 12 Titans??? Skillz? LOL yeah right, no dev whaTSOEVER i SWEAR!! We are just better then you.

Agmar Game-Over	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:31:00 - [341] 10/10 for sure _____________________ Threat Level Midnight
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 19:33:00 - [342] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Presidio, your selective memory is reaching into fiction for inspiration. There were accusations of logon traps, but for a completely different reason. PA complained because BoB members left TS open during slow periods and would log in whenever somebody sounded the alarm that something was happening. The same with alliances and IRC/Jabber today. The mechanics were changed shortly after CE turned it into a surgical strike tactic for entire gangs. PS: Login traps are bannable offenses Mr Goon, its just that you can't perform one under current mechanics unless you're cheating in some other way. As one of PA's fleet commanders I remember log on traps perpetrated by BoB since I was there, I got no reason to make this stuff up, it's water under the bridge for me. Once we started employing the same tactic we got a warning from CCP. It's kind of funny that 3 years later different people are recounting similar stories of CCP's favoritism towards BoB, and you're still in the same position of having to defend yourself. Given BoB's past with the T20 incident on top. Who's story do you think it's more believable? Sorry bud I think you're wasting your time. -
Aus Nova ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.08.31 20:13:00 - [343] Gee guys just admit it Bob et al - do it better than the rest, they can actually use intelligence intelligently. They don't need any help. Circle of 2 - man the only time you attack is when you have a 13 to 1 ratio (drakes make up 90% of force) and when someone uses those odds against you man you cry like a baby. How many ships did you loose in 3 days? Think I got killmail for 7 of your ships - you killed my shuttle. Good thread funniest stuff read in ages.
DraggyDissBot DissBot Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.31 20:29:00 - [344] Edited by: DraggyDissBot on 31/08/2008 20:30:17 Normally I wouldn't dirty my fingers with crap like this but considering the response from the accused to the poster.....must be something to it. I admit i haven't been reading much in CAOD but seriously, when is there ever this much of an incredible magnitude of a responses from the Brigade of Brainless unless they are trying to mass together to play it off what ever it may be. There have been so many responses in here from the bobettes in an obvious attempt to discredit the accusations you really need to wonder. Why so many responses? There are so many other things you could be doing in attacking the north, where do you find the time? Is there something to all of this? Do you have something to hide? Or is it that all of the action your finding in the north isn't what was promised and you have to get your kicks in CAOD instead? From any perspective the entire thing is laughable really. Especially for bob. Here's an idea for you bobbettes though. Have all of your pets, as proud as they might be to be pets I'm sure they would jump at the chance, disolve their alliances and all join a new alliance called the: Nuggets Incharge of Everything Labor-ish That way you would have: Band Of Brothers and Nuggets Incharge of Everything Labor-ish Kewl idea huh? That way everything would be easily explainable when people ask themselves why you are attacking them, they will see your coilition name and say, "Oh i see. they just got sick of being in their own space doing the old BOB and NIEL routine at home."
Dionisius Gallente Vagabundos	Posted - 2008.08.31 20:51:00 - [345] Originally by: Skilo Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Eskalin Originally by: Fanduril Oh no, he stated some facts! Quick, let's start with the personal attacks! yes, facts.......... And i'm still wondering how was dinner in Nol? Late and bad.. dude the dinner in NOL was like this... Some BoB guy came in a car ( a decent one ) , goons came in their donkeys complaining it was poluting the vacuum and slowed their march because the donkeys lost sight of the system about 5 jumps away so they had to stop for a bit, causing lots of trafic in the pipe. From the Northern intersection came IRON, these came in bicicles, but complained of the trafic was laggin them out and the car smoke was making them cough, so they had to pull with the goons. Then came MiHi, RZR, PURE and about the rest of eve, by this time the policeman CCP hired to control trafic lost all north and somewere along the lines a goon dunkey carrying Darius hitted the gate, causing the donkey to fart and rebound on a RZR capital that crashed due to lack of anti-fart hardeners, the gate went offline and 3000 pilots in pilgrimage to the dinner accumulated in the system, all the vapors generated by sweaty northerners and the goon donkey manure caused the hamsters at CCP to take turns for fresh air at the windows while staring at the models that CCP hired to make the modeling for the exotic dancers in ambulation. Now at this time the whole dinner party cryed in unisson... " LAG!HAX!DEVS!XPLOIT! " ... and Molle was angry... BoBits were at the table cring they were hungry, your ghey FC was stalking the waiter, the coalition was crying only 3 jumps out and MOLLE'S meat was getting overcooked. Now the smoke cleared , the dancers came inside and the Coalition party for the dinner arrived...big big problem, the bouncer has asking for invitations and Goons came up with " BBQ2006 - INVITES " , now errr we were in 2007 so the 2006 invites had expired, plus the exotic dancers were females and the sweaty men from the north were at risk here, the goonies weren't attracted by the oposite sex, ( Hello they ride dunkeys man what you expect=!?! ) , SMASHKILL took the first hits, literally, and quickly succumbed to the Goons apetites... Molle was despairing " WHAT ABOUT MY MEAT!? ... One thousand bobits cried in agony " WE'RE HUNGRY!!! " Now luckily for me i had some cookies in my ship and was watching the whole mess ( cloaked OFC ) , and i noticed Goons in their rampage for the sweaty man from the north left RZR/PURE/MiHi while having their wa.. party with SMASHKILL, well goons let the donkeys... well not plain old donkeys, but spaceflying-battle-donkeys armed with carrot launchers and best named hardeners, "some were honor tanked", well anyways with Molle terribly upset and the meat already burned he looked at the window, someone whistled, and TA-DA!! the donkeys!!! Unfortunately due to animal-rights i am not going to report what happened to the Goons battledonkeys, YET! i can assure that the sweaty man from the north that remained fought their best for the poor animals lives and they fought until the last carrot was exausted from the ammo basket! Anyways this was not good enough, evidently and MOLLE's rage was now at a MAX!, /me shakes in fe4r!!!! , bobits emo raged, their bank savings spent in exotic dancers and hot meat, the northerners left NOL's gardens, also known as the surrounding systems, pratically covered with litter, nononononon!!! WEVENGE!!! Turning the tides of war bob went searching for goons, that had finished with the other half of the sweaty man ( SMASHKILL ) , now anyways the rest of the north SWEARED REVENGE ON THE DONKEY SLAUGHTER!!!! ( emo-nerdrage and full bateries included!! ) So this leads us to ... today. BoB are battling valiantly in the north against the sweaty men that vowed to defend the donkey's honor. And yes the dinner was spoiled and thats what this whole MAX deal is all about... _____________________________________
Eskalin Minmatar Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 21:06:00 - [346] Originally by: Dionisius wall of amusing text this tbqh If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2008.08.31 21:23:00 - [347] just when i am fed up with the south eastern arrogance and reviewing the south west, bob hits a new record... can somebody recommend some null-sec, where lame (meta)gayming isn't an issue? i need rules of engagement i can rely on - putting the gist back into logistics
Throdax Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 21:29:00 - [348] Originally by: Roemy Schneider just when i am fed up with the south eastern arrogance and reviewing the south west, bob hits a new record... can somebody recommend some null-sec, where lame (meta)gayming isn't an issue? i need rules of engagement i can rely on My personal favourite in terms of rule of engagement, Icelandic penguins at ten paces.
Dionisius Gallente Vagabundos	Posted - 2008.08.31 21:38:00 - [349] Originally by: Roemy Schneider just when i am fed up with the south eastern arrogance and reviewing the south west, bob hits a new record... can somebody recommend some null-sec, where lame (meta)gayming isn't an issue? i need rules of engagement i can rely on -A- Pre-requisites: - Vodka Drinker - Russian Speaker - Plex Running - PvP 101 - Lindsey Lohan Fan - Penguin Lover _____________________________________
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.08.31 22:33:00 - [350] Originally by: Presidio It's kind of funny that 3 years later different people are recounting similar stories of CCP's favoritism towards BoB, and you're still in the same position of having to defend yourself. Given BoB's past with the T20 incident on top. Who's story do you think it's more believable? Sorry bud I think you're wasting your time. Those stories are just that. They're a safety net for people with too much pride to admit their loss was legit. You don't need to be defensive and butthurt to speak against it. It's a huge ego buff when your enemy can't even comprehend the magnitude of their defeat, and rubbing salt on the wound only makes it funnier. More rational alliance mates no longer want to associate with those speaking gibberish on their behalf. That's why RZR gets props here. Anyone fighting to be number one is going to get treated to a hailstorm of accusations. That's just the way heavy competition works.

Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:30:00 - [351] If you arenÆt cheating then you arenÆt trying. The truth will set you free
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:39:00 - [352] Edited by: Presidio on 31/08/2008 23:41:00 (double post) -
Yuki Li Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:39:00 - [353] lol, insane. Website Recruiting
Wesley Baird Order and Chaos	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:39:00 - [354] Originally by: Metal Dude If you arenÆt cheating then you arenÆt trying. I wonder how they got our password to DD us in our own pos...they would never do anything like that...
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:40:00 - [355] Edited by: Presidio on 31/08/2008 23:45:18 Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Presidio It's kind of funny that 3 years later different people are recounting similar stories of CCP's favoritism towards BoB, and you're still in the same position of having to defend yourself. Given BoB's past with the T20 incident on top. Who's story do you think it's more believable? Sorry bud I think you're wasting your time. Those stories are just that. They're a safety net for people with too much pride to admit their loss was legit. You don't need to be defensive and butthurt to speak against it. It's a huge ego buff when your enemy can't even comprehend the magnitude of their defeat, and rubbing salt on the wound only makes it funnier. More rational alliance mates no longer want to associate with those speaking gibberish on their behalf. That's why RZR gets props here. Anyone fighting to be number one is going to get treated to a hailstorm of accusations. That's just the way heavy competition works. I am not inventing what I experienced fighting BoB I have no reason to, I put all the differences between myself and BoB long time ago. I will be the first one to say that I admire Shrike's ability as a leader. T20 deal is a known fact, CCP came out and admitted it. Not because CCP felt they were doing anything wrong but because the truth came out due to a certain whistle blower (Kungustmen) and CCP was doing damage control. How many other things BoB received in form of intel, information, blueprints...? We will never know. You can't fault anyone for not suspecting other foul play committed by BoB given the history though. I just speak of my experience with fighting the "#1" I should know I spent a year fighting them. And I will be the first one to say that BoB is a formidable foe even without all the cheating. BoB is(was, not sure how many of the oldtimers still play) relentless which was their biggest true quality if you ask me as someone who shared a single system with them for a year (BKG). Now I understand many of BoB's true accomplishments are shrouded with a cloud of doubt generated due to cheating. And this is really unfortunate. But who can we fault for this? The answer is easy, those who cheated. -
ChalSto LOCKDOWN.	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:52:00 - [356] I only wait for Relifan Ratatil comming to the Huzzah Vent screaming "I told you so Chal....now everyone knows that MICROSOFT is cheating for BoB OMFGN00BLET Oo". Originally by: Agmar ----------------------------------------------- "The North is so ghey that even the NPCs fly ravens."
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.08.31 23:56:00 - [357] Originally by: Presidio And I will be the first one to say that BoB is a formidable foe even without all the cheating. BoB is(was, not sure how many of the oldtimers still play) relentless which was their biggest true quality if you ask me as someone who shared a single system with them for a year (BKG). Now I understand many of BoB's true accomplishments are shrouded with a cloud of doubt generated due to cheating. And this is really unfortunate. The current generation of BoB is just as good as the past. In some ways we are more strict, in some ways we are less strict. The GNW was epic for its time, yes, but we don't dwell on it because EVE brings larger and greater challenges as time passes. Whatever interpretation of events you decide to keep is up to you, but the true account of the GNW and everything underneath it is in our memories, as is with all the engagements we have been involved with that had conflicting interpretations. I'd even say that our ability to see the right angle of things and assimilate the proper lessons (and especially the proper people) is what keeps us on the top. To the OP, why not try and infiltrate the GBC with an alt? You are more than welcome to see how we do things for yourself as long as you are able to spy properly and not be detected by us.
Derrios Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.09.01 00:32:00 - [358] Metagaming Online : The Empyrean Age. We all love it. See you all in Unnamed Game to be released soon! ^^~
Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.09.01 01:46:00 - [359] Originally by: Rebellion Originally by: Presidio And I will be the first one to say that BoB is a formidable foe even without all the cheating. BoB is(was, not sure how many of the oldtimers still play) relentless which was their biggest true quality if you ask me as someone who shared a single system with them for a year (BKG). Now I understand many of BoB's true accomplishments are shrouded with a cloud of doubt generated due to cheating. And this is really unfortunate. The current generation of BoB is just as good as the past. In some ways we are more strict, in some ways we are less strict. The GNW was epic for its time, yes, but we don't dwell on it because EVE brings larger and greater challenges as time passes. Whatever interpretation of events you decide to keep is up to you, but the true account of the GNW and everything underneath it is in our memories, as is with all the engagements we have been involved with that had conflicting interpretations. I'd even say that our ability to see the right angle of things and assimilate the proper lessons (and especially the proper people) is what keeps us on the top. To the OP, why not try and infiltrate the GBC with an alt? You are more than welcome to see how we do things for yourself as long as you are able to spy properly and not be detected by us. The old bob used to have their pets sit at home and was proud of BoB winning on their own. No Allies just BoB. The new bob has their pets making up 40%-50% of their gangs with crap like all t1 bs sniper fits and t1 hac fits. I know the stakes are really high for BoB and your trying to keep your alliance together with this MAX bs but do you really have to throw out the old BoB standards? Oh wait, you had help back then.
Homo Erectus Evolution	Posted - 2008.09.01 01:49:00 - [360] Originally by: Presidio I am not inventing what I experienced fighting BoB I have no reason to BS. Everyone that has ever complained has had the same reason; they have been beaten, decimated, bent over, dismantled, urinated upon, embarrassed, disemboweled, ridiculed, and impregnated by BoB. My response will always be the same: Suck less at Eve. When you start actually beating BoB, I promise you will think we are cheating less. regarding t20, my last post still works: Originally by: Homo Erectus yea. last night before i went to bed i was sitting there just thinking: why? why go to bed. i mean, i should probably just sell my bed. then i should quit eve and format my hdd. then probably sell the whole computer and my crap ugly 28" LCD that some Toshiba executive spawned for me. then i should take a good hard look in the mirror, become enraged and break my fist on it then use the broken pieces to slash my throat and kill myself. i mean seriously, what other choice do i have after some guy i didn't know, in some corp i didn't know he was in, used his god powers with a job i didn't know he had, to do some real world/eve ending stuff that i didn't know he did? or wait. maybe everyone who is still crying about BoB cheating should try a different approach: suck less at eve. Please get some new material, you unskilled peasants.

Aales Eae Solus Navy	Posted - 2008.09.01 01:54:00 - [361] Edited by: Aales Eae on 01/09/2008 01:54:44 Originally by: Homo Erectus Originally by: Presidio I am not inventing what I experienced fighting BoB I have no reason to BS. Everyone that has ever complained has had the same reason; they have been beaten, decimated, bent over, dismantled, urinated upon, embarrassed, disemboweled, ridiculed, and impregnated by BoB. My response will always be the same: Suck less at Eve. When you start actually beating BoB, I promise you will think we are cheating less. Nice Ego there Homo. Do us all a favor and pull on your ears until you hear a loud pop.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:09:00 - [362] Doesn't really matter how witty the BoBs try to be, their name is dirty and will forever remain so. Caught cheating means you are a cheater.
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:14:00 - [363] Originally by: Homo Erectus suck less at eve. ok
Crimsonjade Amarr Secret Service	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:17:00 - [364] Originally by: Presidio Originally by: Homo Erectus suck less at eve. ok dont ya miss that in bkg local? 2004 all over again
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.09.01 02:21:00 - [365] Originally by: Crimsonjade Originally by: Presidio Originally by: Homo Erectus suck less at eve. ok dont ya miss that in bkg local? 2004 all over again heh I swear my monitor got a burn in from BKG, I would be happy if I never had to enter that system again.
Venomire GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 03:02:00 - [366] Originally by: Homo Erectus BS. Everyone that has ever complained has had the same reason; they have been beaten, decimated, bent over, dismantled, urinated upon, embarrassed, disemboweled, ridiculed, and impregnated by BoB. You smell funny.
Hexman Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.01 03:13:00 - [367] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. This part absolutely takes the cake! Not even the BPCP (Busted Pedophile Catholic Priests) has this level of absolute evil! Palpatine is like Strawberry Shortcake compared to BoB!
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.09.01 03:17:00 - [368] Quote: yea. last night before i went to bed i was sitting there just thinking: why? why go to bed. i mean, i should probably just sell my bed. then i should quit eve and format my hdd. then probably sell the whole computer and my crap ugly 28" LCD that some Toshiba executive spawned for me. then i should take a good hard look in the mirror, become enraged and break my fist on it then use the broken pieces to slash my throat and kill myself. i mean seriously, what other choice do i have after some guy i didn't know, in some corp i didn't know he was in, used his god powers with a job i didn't know he had, to do some real world/eve ending stuff that i didn't know he did? or wait. maybe everyone who is still crying about BoB cheating should try a different approach: suck less at eve. hehehe. Thats pretty much how I feel about it... "zomg bob cheats" Either stfu or start fighting NC"
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.09.01 03:36:00 - [369] Originally by: rValdez5987 hehehe. Thats pretty much how I feel about it... "zomg bob cheats" Either stfu or start fighting NC" "hai! can i be a bob lap dog?"
SSgt Sniper Gallente MAIDS	Posted - 2008.09.01 06:23:00 - [370] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. Props for posting with a main. I hate IRON with a purple passion. I could go into many inane reasons why, but that's irrelevant. What is relevant is this: I've been where you just were. I've seen that. And you're damn right it's strange that when BoB bangs on a cynojammer, the entire region grinds to a halt until five minutes after they finish doing so. I sympathize with your frustration. Your posting of this thread however, was a huge mistake. I won't even bother reading it because I know it's going to be 10 pages of BoB and BoB pets (read: Tri) telling you to emoragequit and other such stupid drivel. Good luck with the rest of the campaign. At least when BoB gives Burn Eden the north and leaves, Burn Eden is so clueless about anything save cloaking ravens that you'll easily gain it all back.

Kasheem Cetanes coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.01 06:30:00 - [371] Originally by: SSgt Sniper Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. Props for posting with a main. I hate IRON with a purple passion. I could go into many inane reasons why, but that's irrelevant. What is relevant is this: I've been where you just were. I've seen that. And you're damn right it's strange that when BoB bangs on a cynojammer, the entire region grinds to a halt until five minutes after they finish doing so. I sympathize with your frustration. Your posting of this thread however, was a huge mistake. I won't even bother reading it because I know it's going to be 10 pages of BoB and BoB pets (read: Tri) telling you to emoragequit and other such stupid drivel. Good luck with the rest of the campaign. At least when BoB gives Burn Eden the north and leaves, Burn Eden is so clueless about anything save cloaking ravens that you'll easily gain it all back. TBH, I agree with the op, sort of. Fix the lag, I'm done, the games not a test of skill, its not fun, my account is gone till you fix lag ccp. back to wow for me.
Tillakna Gallente Rim Collection RC Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2008.09.01 07:00:00 - [372] omg this is sad lol...
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 07:44:00 - [373] Hotseat, why are you even responding to paracidic. he is ex-Red Moon Federation for gods sake. Rest of thread. A+ would laugh at again.
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 07:47:00 - [374] Also Spot, you forgot Beetracker.
Needa3 Minmatar BURN EDEN Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.01 07:59:00 - [375] Originally by: SSgt Sniper Your posting of this thread however, was a huge mistake. I won't even bother reading it because I know it's going to be 10 pages of BoB and BoB pets (read: Tri) telling you to emoragequit and other such stupid drivel. Good luck with the rest of the campaign. At least when BoB gives Burn Eden the north and leaves, Burn Eden is so clueless about anything save cloaking ravens that you'll easily gain it all back. I agree, that is why we have the rest of TRI to act as our mining slaves and pos-huggers. Also, i don't do ravens
Kushion Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:21:00 - [376] Originally by: Needa3 Also, i don't do ravens WTF?!? I just lost all respect I had for you :(
Plague Black 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:27:00 - [377] 3 years of BOB trying to sweep the truth under the rug and 3 years of constant failure to do so. BOB got caught cheating multiple times, denies all accusations despite overwhelming evidence, admited even by CCP staff, and they have the nerv to call themselves skilled. Each time someone brings up cheating to table entire BOB high command gets all fired up, alts are included to water down threads, fill them with sensless cr4p (Tri is doing this for you lately, there is not a single intelligent word coming from their mouth anywy) until threads are so ruined that a forum moderator must lock them. Give up bobits, you will always bear the mark of shame, cheaters cought red-handed bending and breaking rules of the game we all like. No matter how hard you try there will always be thousand of pilots hating your guts for what you really are, never forgetting what you did. Get used to people always brining the truth to the table, with zeal you will not be able to compehend. Once a great man said that all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing (was it Sir Edmund Burke or was it derived from Russian literature it does not really matter). Luckily for EVE there will alway be good men opposing BOB and what they represent. You are s****of eve, 1337 only in how you break rules of the game to spoil it for everyone else, failing at equal conditions pvp whenever you are deprived of your metagaming toys. You will fail, even if it takes another 3 years to take you down you future is sealed. And once that happens you will only be remembered for dirt you brought to game, where everyone will thank God for not having you in the game any more. All ex members of BOB will bear a mark of shame in their corp and alliance history having hard time to explain why they joined you in the first place, or lying that this is a character they bought from someone else. And soon this thread will be locked, forgotten by majority of EVE population but the goal to bring you down will stay alive until your miserable existance ends. You should have taken the snake.
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:28:00 - [378] Something I never understood: If so many people are so convinced that BoB are cheating and that CCP are helping them, why are you still playing the game? I especially don't understand why you are trying to form some sort of righteous crusade against an entety which, according to you, can't be beaten because they are cheating. It boggles my mind. I mean, why go through all of that for a game?
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:44:00 - [379] losing sux m8 but dont put it out on people who are better then you and play the game better.. Unless theys mack you with it like the goons did.. Dont forget if you cant beat them join em ;)
Rudi Storm SGL	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:46:00 - [380] Meanwhile somewhere in Sweden... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Milkman Dani Gallente RuffRyders Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.01 08:53:00 - [381] You know, about lag, Goons and NC are all saying that BoB uses lag to help them kill the enemy. What about when goon forms up THOUSANDS of their pilots to continuously wave attack a system? Another example, can be when the NC continually blobs people with 200-500 even 600 man fleets. That's lag too guys, stop being hypocritcal and blame just one group of people, when you yourselves have contributed to the exact same problem. Anyone, and yes ANYONE that blobs are at fault for causing lag within a node. It's part of the game, there is going to be lag with that many people, doing many different things, at the exact same as everything else is going on. The only way to improve the game, would be to add more nodes, which mean adding more server hardware, which all costs a crap load of money. Sure, you can say CCP has a ton of money to pay for it, but how the hell do you know if they have the money to pay for it all? They have employees to pay money to, they have to pay the ISP for hosting them, they have to pay every single person that is remotely involved with the game, and even have to pay for advertising, at the same time, paying the people that are continuously updating, patching, fixing, creating new content, and who know what else. They also have to pay stock holders and what not. Granted, not with just the proceeds they get from this game, but the game still contributes to stockholders earnings. ALL SIDES of this war have used lag to their advantage, and to say you havn't, makes you a blatant liar. So, can we please stop bringing up lag as an excuse, and just move on? Seriously, bringing up lag as the reason you lost is pathetic. You lost, plain and simple, now move and and see if you don't repeat what happened. The in game mechanics do seriously need to be looked at to alleviate lag, but lag will always be an issue with Sov, 0.0 wars, and the need to defend your space against other people's blobs. Blobs are going to be a part of the game for 0.0 until the Sov issues are worked out. PoS's are going to be a part of that, so there will not be a fix for it any time soon, unless CCP can figure out a different way to wage war in 0.0. Large fleets are part of the game, lag will be a part of large fleets, get over it, and move on. Play the game and stop making yourselves look like hypocrits.
Graalum Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.09.01 09:01:00 - [382] ok guys so i read pages 1-4. are the next 11 worth it or no? I'm looking for some good trolling and some megalulz
bitters much Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.01 09:12:00 - [383] Originally by: Plague Black lots of bitter rubbish 1st. Your NAP blob sided with also proven cheaters, remember ? That thing you done in the south not long ago and failed because your urge to mine some Veld in Tribute was bigger then to finish them off. 2nd. You sound like CYVOK or MadEyeMcCreedy from ASCN while getting a beating 3rd. You act worse then ASCN back in the days, they actually fought, you just hug your POSses or tell your grunts to do while you have your stuff in a safe spot in empire already. Once I thought that ASCN was the worst alliance in EVE ever, then I thought KOS,Rise and HYDRA took that spot, but you ( NC ) have proved me wrong. You have nothing learned from what happened the last 2 years in the north. Not because of the grunts, its because of the leaders that give out the route to go.
EzSnake Brass Monkeys Society	Posted - 2008.09.01 09:18:00 - [384] Edited by: EzSnake on 01/09/2008 09:21:24 Originally by: Ki An Something I never understood: If so many people are so convinced that BoB are cheating and that CCP are helping them, why are you still playing the game? I especially don't understand why you are trying to form some sort of righteous crusade against an entety which, according to you, can't be beaten because they are cheating. It boggles my mind. I mean, why go through all of that for a game? Finally someone with some damn sense!!! Seriously, if people are so convinced CCP and BoB are cheating, do the best thing you can about it. (No forum wh*ring crying about it, isn't it). Melt all your crap in game and delete your toons, not sell them for isk or RL $$..DELETE it ALL and cancel your accounts! Maybe, just maybe you can get enough ppl to actually hurt CCP's pocketbooks and force thier hand to change or get this game to fail cascade.
Bibi Kahi Mohala Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.01 09:32:00 - [385] Edited by: Bibi on 01/09/2008 09:36:42 Its just talk... if ccp find out people cheat they would do something about it because it would obviously be very bad game commercial for ccp that could result a subscriber drop. Its quite simple really ccp wants to make as much money as they can, all market corporations know that bad publicity could be the END for them, this is one of the first rules you learn in the corporation business some never learn and they fail... CCP only have a little tiny spot of the MMO market so yea no room for ****ups really. CCP also knows that a large % of the alliance people in eve dislike bob so they obviously keep a close eye on bob as they dont want to repeat a old mistake. Everything else is nonsens talk ask any corp listed on the stock-exchange if they can prevent a problem that could occur they will do it and specially if the problem occurred before. CCP will DO what it takes to run there business forward not backwards plain and simple... corporations eliminate there problems. Infact they would of course remove any alliance in game if they would make profit on it. There is no secret between ccp and bob I can tell you that right away and I'm not even in bob. There is no room for that shit in a reallife market related business. But I know reallife money talks hehe
Heartcarver Goat Gangbangers	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:21:00 - [386] Originally by: Wendat Huron Doesn't really matter how witty the BoBs try to be, their name is dirty and will forever remain so. Caught cheating means you are a cheater. Oh thank god, I was seriously considering joining BoB until you told me this. Now however, I realize I need to find an untainted pure skilled alliance, like Goons or somewhere up north. They refuse to be tainted to the point that they keep losing to BoB, so that people won't accuse them of cheating to beat cheaters. That is dedication to wholesome values we can all get behind
RemusVI Gallente Legion Federation The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:41:00 - [387] hmm kinda surprised so many GBC pulling in to defend their psotion here did u acuatlly do something? that the whole GBC is here on the forums defending and trying to drag out the attention to some other topic ? well anways me jsut looking around until the beans spillover Have a nice time guys P.S: the internet was designed supposedly to be safe but i guess not
Commanders Heaven Gallente Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:44:00 - [388] I've seen alot of post's about Bob cheating, but i havent seen any proof or anyone having the ability to support it. I think it's unfair to a community to flame them with cheating, if you dont have any proof, and if this community does not have the ability to defend themself. I think we all hate BOB's way of always comming on top inn almost every battle, but give them credit for always surviving these pieces, and pixels. The game always balances out, Bob will probally go bored once they have no one left to fight and we will see internal conflicts. Who knowS? If you dont enjoy this game of pixel's and text why do you play it? Just my 2 cents.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:47:00 - [389] Edited by: Fanduril on 01/09/2008 10:47:42 Originally by: Commanders Heaven I've seen alot of post's about Bob cheating, but i havent seen any proof or anyone having the ability to support it. I think it's unfair to a community to flame them with cheating, if you dont have any proof, and if this community does not have the ability to defend themself. Say what?
Commanders Heaven Gallente Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:50:00 - [390] Originally by: Fanduril Edited by: Fanduril on 01/09/2008 10:47:42 Originally by: Commanders Heaven I've seen alot of post's about Bob cheating, but i havent seen any proof or anyone having the ability to support it. I think it's unfair to a community to flame them with cheating, if you dont have any proof, and if this community does not have the ability to defend themself. Say what? Right this was even before i heard about eve, my apologies :)

Bibi Kahi Mohala Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.01 10:56:00 - [391] Edited by: Bibi on 01/09/2008 10:56:42 RemusVI hehe well if you see it that way I just point out some fact's better to keep forum clean from b-u-l-l s-h-i-t ideas. Its just silly to see these accusations time after time when people lose to bob...why is that btw ?
Kai Jyokoroi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:05:00 - [392] Surely... no, SURELY, this has to be an extremely elaborate troll?
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:17:00 - [393] I would appreciate it if you would add the entire GBC into the nonlag bit, i only seen 5 NC's on my overview during the entire time they lemminged in
Djana Libra Caldari Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:20:00 - [394] Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Edited by: Ponderous Thunderstroke on 31/08/2008 04:09:14 Originally by: Aales Eae Originally by: Kirra Liu Wow, this thread certainly delivers. So BOB called the Dev's and got them to lag out some systems so they could get some work done, then once they were done give the all clear to CCP and the lag is turned off. Well thats one hella theory, and I would love to hear your theories other stuff. Bet youre a scientologist aswell I sure hope someone posts what's said in corp / alliance chat when Luthien next loggs on. I have a feeling itll be along the lines of "dont let the door hit you on the way out". They need BoB and this MAX crap to succeed. The more articles in the NYtimes, the more free advertising, the more money they make. I like how BoB has links to buy isk on their KB's. How much rl money a year are your leaders making off the isk selling? If a Blobbit is actually messing with the servers (fat chance, but whatever), it should be pretty easy to nail down who, as these suspicious and remarkably well-timed bouts of server suckage have been going for literally years. That would mean that it's a long-time Blobbit, which really limits the field of candidates, as Band of Brothers has been dead for a while, replaced by Band of the Beaten -- a legion of defeated pet stragglers and orphaned powergamers from other flash-in-the-pan alliances, whom BoB command convinced to ditch their former brosefs, usually with the contents of wallets and hangars as well. True BoB hasn't been around for a while, instead it's ex-RISE, ex-FIX, ex-XELAS, ex-MC, hell, ex-Everyone-who-ever-sucked-at-the-altar-of-BoB, plus a very few hardcore BoB originals that have stuck around. Edit: Oh wow, Page 10 snypa...I get a free mocha at Starbucks. Mynas that you?
Dionisius Gallente Vagabundos	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:20:00 - [395] Ok ok here's a bit of a reality check for the northern people, especially before someone calls Batman in his batshuttle of doom and pwns us all... Once upon a time there was a T20 guy that did some naughty stuff, and this T20 guy was a member of Band Of Brothers Alliance ( BoB ), and CCP got caught by some Kugusomething guy trying to hide stuff and he, Kug, spilled the beans got banned etc the whole deal fast foward >> Now the entire population of EvE and then some banded together and for a time things were good, BUUUUT, along the way someone lost their olives and got out, someone tought , " Hey BoB are beaten lets have the others finish stuff and get back to mining in Jita", while others stayed. Then occurred the massive fail we all know off, and allow me to tell thy, the only thing that clouds this event was the occurrence of the Big Bang and life has we know it because for those that have a sort or biased memory, this fail wasn't just massive, it was of UNIVERSAL PROPORTIONS!!! But! Somewere along the timelines of history IRON, MiHi, RAZOR, SMASHKILL, PURE, BRUCE, etc etc etc and so forth , took the place that BoB previously occupied... in smacking, forum warrying and chest beating that is!, and sentences like.. " Now people complain we aren't wining fast enough" " Now you can't cheat everyone sees that BoB sucks!" " Dinner in NOL!" " BoB Suck" Etc etc etc and so forth... Now some actually came to whatever forums and said, guys.. the war isn't won yet... , and came across the same type of response, " n00b!" , " stfu", " you suck" , "bob spy", blablabla. And this concludes about the basics in terms of strategic thinking and medium to long term planning of the Coalition, wich by a very small margin only surpasses the memory spawn and capability of a fish. In the field we had some very interesting occurrences also, like NC loosing a considerable amount of caps, the infamous MC betrayal, which lead to MC's downfall etc etc. Being precise and to the point, the North isn't in the grim position that they are today due to BoB's cheating, no sir , the NC is in this position due to themselves. Lack of planing. Lack of unity. Lack of will to fight. Lack of... everything. And thus in their usual way people turn to the easy answer of the common question, Why are we loosing? and the answer is " Because BoB cheats " , yet the most perceptive know that this is somewhat an excuse, BoB didn't cheated, they committed to this fight, harder or not they did came up north with.. some objective. Now the north sits comfortably waiting for BoB to turn their eyes elsewhere or hoping that -A- , TCF and GS come to the rescue, sincerely i hope not for the later option. I'm just going to make one special mention towards Tri an PL, more or less wrong it is what i "feel" on the matter, Tri is doing what any other alliance would do, give a beating to the loosing side, while PL, well PL do what they always did, shooting people, but with brains! In the end the North forces are just hoping this bad dream ends fast in order for them to " retake " their space yet they do not see one thing, they are a walking dead man,, or better , a crawling one just waiting for someone to draw the gun and put an end to their misery. What can we learn from here? Simple, BoB are good at what they do and they present an opportunity for those up to the task of fighting them, personally i thing that with more alliances with the style of -A- and PL things would be a bit different , these are models to look at and learn stuff from. The North could use a purge, old school " let the mofos burn " and rise as some other entity, provided there are people with the will for that, note that i'm not saying that there aren't good people there, there are and plenty and those need to team up and start new stuff, to succeed were others didn't do so good. The lesson for today is this, " Learn from your mistakes and move on. "
Stakov	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:46:00 - [396] Bob are not better than lot of other alliance. Bob rule the game because : - They exploit metagaming like hell. - They use spy ig, outagme and exploit Teamspeak security fail. - CCP like and do nothing against bob. That's all, i may be a day Bob be fairplay and fight with honors.
Bibi Kahi Mohala Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:55:00 - [397] Edited by: Bibi on 01/09/2008 11:55:35 Stakov constructive ideas from the anti-bob ?
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.09.01 11:55:00 - [398] Originally by: Stakov Bob are not better than lot of other alliance. Bob rule the game because : - They exploit metagaming like hell. - They use spy ig, outagme and exploit Teamspeak security fail. - CCP like and do nothing against bob. That's all, i may be a day Bob be fairplay and fight with honors. Again, if you believe CCP are helping BoB you should quit giving them your money. Continuing to give money to someone you know is cheating you is pretty frigging stupid. Also, all alliances metagame and use spies. Get over yourself.
Stakov	Posted - 2008.09.01 12:05:00 - [399] Edited by: Stakov on 01/09/2008 12:06:00 First i'm not anti bob, they're lot of good players and i like to fight them in regular battle, but more i play eve in 0.0 more i see how bob play ...And i don't like that. May be other alliance use spy and metagaming, but not like bob do imo. I like eve and i continue to pay ccp even they don't do good job with bob exploit, just i return in high sec soon because im out of this crap.
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2008.09.01 12:07:00 - [400] Originally by: Stakov Edited by: Stakov on 01/09/2008 12:06:00 First i'm not anti bob, they're lot of good players and i like to fight them in regular battle, but more i play eve in 0.0 more i see how bob play ...And i don't like that. May be other alliance use spy and metagaming, but not like bob do imo. I like eve and i continue to pay ccp even they don't do good job with bob exploit, just i return in high sec soon because im out of this crap. So CCP helping BoB isn't that bad then? I mean, it's bad enough to complain a bit about it, but it's not bad enough to quit over? Well, then. I guess everything is ok.

JackofHearts Together We Form Voltron	Posted - 2008.09.01 12:09:00 - [401] http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/888285/
Zeoliter Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 12:41:00 - [402] Originally by: Stakov Edited by: Stakov on 01/09/2008 12:06:00 just i return in high sec soon because im out of this crap. May I procure your belongings, sir?
CDLoon Minmatar Red Sky Morning	Posted - 2008.09.01 12:43:00 - [403] Its a shame, the OP started so well, then failed at the end. Much like IRON and the NC. Farewell NC, it was lulz watching you failcascade
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.01 13:03:00 - [404] I log in. I join gang. I wait for hours, and nothing appears to defend station belonging to NC. I log out, and play Peggle. - Seriously, get over yourselves, BoB had one incident, and suddenly they're "ALWAYS CHEATING", you may want to consult your spys on our side of the fence for an accurate sit-rep of what is going on. It's quite apparent most of you have no clue, yet decide to ramble off into a spiel about BoB cheating since there's no other way to say "We Suck", that still strokes your inflated egos, based on past exploits no-one remembers.
Cardinal Vyrex Amarr Fraternitas Ardoris	Posted - 2008.09.01 13:35:00 - [405] The whole BoB is cheating thing is incredibly boring. One guy who worked for ccp did something bad and got caught and stopped. Now people who are so pathetic that they cant form up a fleet or fight with anything remotely approaching skill say the only reason they are being whupped is cos their enemy is cheating. I have an idea for NC/everyone else against the GBC, go learn to play, get some decent skills, get some decent fc's, quit crying, fight. If you cant manage to do that without massively emoraging then you have no place in eve and you should quit. If i played a game where i KNEW (not claimed) someone was cheating i wouldnt pay to play it.
Yuri Vladomirovic	Posted - 2008.09.01 13:41:00 - [406] Originally by: Ulic Vos Clearly gave me one of the best and hardest laughs i ever had in my life. U have no life m8, go buy u some pets or get some friends
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.01 13:55:00 - [407] Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic Originally by: Ulic Vos Clearly gave me one of the best and hardest laughs i ever had in my life. U have no life m8, go buy u some pets or get some friends gb2basement, play WoW, hug mummy, etc.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:08:00 - [408] To those who believe that BoB win even a few of their battles because of CCP wilfully overlooking BoB cheating....... ......if what you believe is true, why? Pray tell? are you giving your money to CCP? There are two "reasonable" solutions to the problem: 1. Emoragequit (please?......) 2. Realize that you have been being an idiot, and try to not suck so badly at Eve. Emoragewhining while at the same time paying Real Life money to BoB/CCP (who are one and the same according to your logic) just so BoB/CCP can cheat/win in battles where YOU have NO CHANCE...... well, its just not a very reasonable choice of action.
Yuri Vladomirovic	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:16:00 - [409] Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic Originally by: Ulic Vos Clearly gave me one of the best and hardest laughs i ever had in my life. U have no life m8, go buy u some pets or get some friends gb2basement, play WoW, hug mummy, etc. K, I will hug your mummy, then we will play WOAHW!!! Rude Yuri out, going home
Metal Dude Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:18:00 - [410] Originally by: Sergeant Spot To those who believe that BoB win even a few of their battles because of CCP wilfully overlooking BoB cheating....... ......if what you believe is true, why? Pray tell? are you giving your money to CCP? There are two "reasonable" solutions to the problem: 1. Emoragequit (please?......) 2. Realize that you have been being an idiot, and try to not suck so badly at Eve. Emoragewhining while at the same time paying Real Life money to BoB/CCP (who are one and the same according to your logic) just so BoB/CCP can cheat/win in battles where YOU have NO CHANCE...... well, its just not a very reasonable choice of action. Well, we'll give them that cyno jammer and titan nurf to keep them happy for a while before they realize that it will only make our job easier in taking their space and allow us to complete our goal of capturing all of 0.0 space. Then they'll all quit in an emo rage and this game will be renamed to BoB-online. Sounds like a plan?

Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:29:00 - [411] You just gotta love when people link a devblog which says: Quote: I wish to make it clear that I acted alone and my co-workers and corp/alliance mates have been cleared of any alleged wrongdoing. and say this is proof of Bob cheating. If anything its only RKK, but that is not what that blog says. Hell, it even says only the bpo allegations were true and those bpos sucked (Only good one is the sabre, and even then not great). Our war machine would have been completely screwed without those bpos. Our ammo and sabre backbone!
Noa Fuyu Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:34:00 - [412] Originally by: Spathi Our war machine would have been completely screwed without those bpos. Our ammo and sabre backbone! Not our Ammo!!!! OH NOEZ. Posting in epic thread of the month.\o/
Monsieur Escargots The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2008.09.01 14:45:00 - [413] Meh, everyone knows BoB will do whatever they need to to make sure they win, whatever it entales. Get over it. The only way you will ever beat them is by going further than they do. If you are not prepared to do that, then just wait till they get bored and go home and leave [insert pet alliance] to try and defend whatever space they took.
Florio Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.09.01 15:44:00 - [414] it's amazing that people who have been in the game for so long can still think that anyone can influence the server/ccp/lag/logonqueueposition/etc like the op and others suggest. having experienced both the bob and non-bob bits of eve i can tell you that bob win more often than not because they are professionals and everyone else are amateurs, and in addition when shitty server conditions affect them they suck it up and don't whine (much) about it.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.09.01 15:58:00 - [415] Originally by: Interstellar Trust Originally by: Florio it's amazing that people who have been in the game for so long can still think that anyone can influence the server/ccp/lag/logonqueueposition/etc like the op and others suggest. heh, CCP can't influence the lag? get out of here. How does Jita support 1000 people with all the trading going on while a random system can't support 150 pilots? CCP can allocate more hardware to a system everyone knows this. Not sure if they can do it dynamically or if it's something that needs to be done on reboot (maintenance). Not saying this is what happened here, but you are WRONG. The inference in this thread ISNT allocating more resources to a system. It is allocating resources to individual players within a certain gang, possibly as they are travelling through nodes. I'm sure I don't need to explain how utterly ridiculous that notion is.
Thimerion shadow and flame Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.09.01 15:59:00 - [416] I think we are just goint to have to accept that stupendous lag is going to happen if we throw 800+ people in a system at the same time. Nothing can be done about it so just live with it.
Wizzkidy	Posted - 2008.09.01 16:43:00 - [417] Epic thread :) Anyway, I have seen my fair share of "dodgy" goings on when BOB enter a fight, It's true that things always seem to slide the way of BOB, why this is is anyones guess, is it because there good? I cannot say. The things I have seen that make me wonder wtf was going on: Back in 2005 - BOB was up north attacking FE trying to pop POS after POS, interestingly enough two of the POS's in the home system just suddenly went offline, including all modules and tower. Why this was is anyones guess but BOB wasn't far behind to go finish those off as well even tho the 300 - 400 man gang of FE where lagged to crap. Again in 2005 FE trying to defend just wasn't happening, I was there first hand not able to move at all yet BOB where popping FE ships left right and centre. Again who knows? Maybe the lag just worked in the favour And of course the T20 incident. I cannot say and NO ONE will ever find out the IF they get help or not, its thats simple. My personal opinion is that they MIGHT of got help back in those days, if they still do is anyone guess since the T20 incident i woudl of thought it would have to be kept very very tight.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:06:00 - [418] Originally by: Plague Black 3 years of BOB trying to sweep the truth under the rug and 3 years of constant failure to do so. BOB got caught cheating multiple times, denies all accusations despite overwhelming evidence, admited even by CCP staff, and they have the nerv to call themselves skilled. Each time someone brings up cheating to table entire BOB high command gets all fired up, alts are included to water down threads, fill them with sensless cr4p (Tri is doing this for you lately, there is not a single intelligent word coming from their mouth anywy) until threads are so ruined that a forum moderator must lock them. Give up bobits, you will always bear the mark of shame, cheaters cought red-handed bending and breaking rules of the game we all like. No matter how hard you try there will always be thousand of pilots hating your guts for what you really are, never forgetting what you did. Get used to people always brining the truth to the table, with zeal you will not be able to compehend. Once a great man said that all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing (was it Sir Edmund Burke or was it derived from Russian literature it does not really matter). Luckily for EVE there will alway be good men opposing BOB and what they represent. You are s****of eve, 1337 only in how you break rules of the game to spoil it for everyone else, failing at equal conditions pvp whenever you are deprived of your metagaming toys. You will fail, even if it takes another 3 years to take you down you future is sealed. And once that happens you will only be remembered for dirt you brought to game, where everyone will thank God for not having you in the game any more. All ex members of BOB will bear a mark of shame in their corp and alliance history having hard time to explain why they joined you in the first place, or lying that this is a character they bought from someone else. And soon this thread will be locked, forgotten by majority of EVE population but the goal to bring you down will stay alive until your miserable existance ends. You should have taken the snake. And to think I stuck my neck on the line so your corp could keep it's name. Sad.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:17:00 - [419] Originally by: Avon And to think I stuck my neck on the line so your corp could keep it's name. Sad. You know what's sad? You, and your posting. Sad.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:19:00 - [420] Originally by: Wizzkidy Epic thread :) Anyway, I have seen my fair share of "dodgy" goings on when BOB enter a fight, It's true that things always seem to slide the way of BOB, why this is is anyones guess, is it because there good? I cannot say. The things I have seen that make me wonder wtf was going on: Back in 2005 - BOB was up north attacking FE trying to pop POS after POS, interestingly enough two of the POS's in the home system just suddenly went offline, including all modules and tower. Why this was is anyones guess but BOB wasn't far behind to go finish those off as well even tho the 300 - 400 man gang of FE where lagged to crap. Again in 2005 FE trying to defend just wasn't happening, I was there first hand not able to move at all yet BOB where popping FE ships left right and centre. Again who knows? Maybe the lag just worked in the favour And of course the T20 incident. I cannot say and NO ONE will ever find out the IF they get help or not, its thats simple. My personal opinion is that they MIGHT of got help back in those days, if they still do is anyone guess since the T20 incident i woudl of thought it would have to be kept very very tight. The thing is, when BoB lag out and the other side give us a beating, they never credit the lag, only their uber skills at wtfpwn'ing us. It is only lag when you lose - and when you have that mindset, lag only happens when you lose, therefore you only lose because of lag, therefore LAGSPLOITS! BoB do well in lag not because of some super sekrit hacks, but because we just make the best of the situation, and see how the dice fall (lol, Dice, falling .. er, nvm) Lag happens, and it ruins the experience for everyone. However, if you remain organised and disciplined then you can focus on doing the job at hand. Sometimes is goes well, other times not so well - but panicing or running usually turns out even worse.

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:20:00 - [421] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Avon And to think I stuck my neck on the line so your corp could keep it's name. Sad. You know what's sad? You, and your posting. Sad. Thanks for your constructive input. I'll stick it in my scrapbook asap. Oh wait, the Goon one doesn't have an "S", meh. Oh, SA still think you guys are terrible btw.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:23:00 - [422] You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:25:00 - [423] Originally by: Fanduril You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad. I don't?
Wizzkidy Un-Natural Selection	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:27:00 - [424] Originally by: Avon The thing is, when BoB lag out and the other side give us a beating, they never credit the lag, only their uber skills at wtfpwn'ing us. It is only lag when you lose - and when you have that mindset, lag only happens when you lose, therefore you only lose because of lag, therefore LAGSPLOITS! BoB do well in lag not because of some super sekrit hacks, but because we just make the best of the situation, and see how the dice fall (lol, Dice, falling .. er, nvm) Lag happens, and it ruins the experience for everyone. However, if you remain organised and disciplined then you can focus on doing the job at hand. Sometimes is goes well, other times not so well - but panicing or running usually turns out even worse. Avon, I'm not saying your Alliance cheats I hope you understand that, tbh I don't know wtf is going on. I'm only saying that whenever I have been around (defo in the FE days) it did always seem to swing BOB's way! I don't know if you can justify that by stating "organised and disciplined" because to be fair in a lag situation in ALL the cases I have been in them my ship DOES NOT MOVE How all the BOB guys orbiting around popping stuff was beyond me. What worrys me is what did come out of the T20 incident I dont think painted the whole picture and i'm sure we wasn't told the whole truth. Anyway who can match up to 20 odd titans Avon? Do you agree its getting a little stupid?
Raneru eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:29:00 - [425] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. This is what happens when your enemy cynos 40+ carriers in and they all drop fighters. The lag will of course then clear when they return them. I'd recommend driving a fleet of smartbombing BS into them . If they beat you into the system however, your screwed.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:30:00 - [426] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Fanduril You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad. I don't? Yep, you don't. Avon, you're trying so hard but only getting that far, which isn't very far unfortunately. Sad.
Dazhbog T C B	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:31:00 - [427] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Avon Originally by: Fanduril You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad. I don't? Yep, you don't. Avon, you're trying so hard but only getting that far, which isn't very far unfortunately. Sad. What happened to you guys, man? You used to have some good posters.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:32:00 - [428] Originally by: Fanduril Yep, you don't. Avon, you're trying so hard but only getting that far, which isn't very far unfortunately. Sad. You're absolutely sure you are right about this? (Not that I am setting you up for a fall or anything)
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:37:00 - [429] I'm just playing with you. This thread should've been closed 17 pages ago, but it has been good fun so far.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:42:00 - [430] Originally by: Wizzkidy What worrys me is what did come out of the T20 incident I dont think painted the whole picture and i'm sure we wasn't told the whole truth. The thing is, if you want to believe in a conspiracy to make up for your own shortcommings, you will never believe the truth. There will always be "something more" being hidden from you, because the truth doesn't help justify your failings. That is true of almost any conspiracy theory. Usually people find it really hard to accept that mundane things do happen. Some guy in CCP wanted some T2 BPO's, and fiddled the system to get them. When CCP caught him and forced him to give up his character (a full six months before the whole thing came to public attention), he left his stuff with his corp (like many characters do, like enslaver did with his Titan when he became a GM, for example). The actions of that individual has tainted an entire alliance, and to start with I was really annoyed about the whole thing (as my posts at the time show). However, I know that I have never encountered anything in my 3 years in BoB which would give an unfair ingame advantage, just a lot of effort, dedication, and team-work. PS, FE the alliance was total fail, unlike the epic corp from which it spawned :P

Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:43:00 - [431] Edited by: Rikeka on 01/09/2008 17:43:47 The T20 incident was horrendously managed... If all BPO's were returned, was a first step. The guy should have apolagized (properly) and like quit. EDIT: Damn, missed the quote. Too lazy to search for it again.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:52:00 - [432] Originally by: Rikeka Edited by: Rikeka on 01/09/2008 17:43:47 The T20 incident was horrendously managed... If all BPO's were returned, was a first step. The guy should have apolagized (properly) and like quit. EDIT: Damn, missed the quote. Too lazy to search for it again. TBH he should have been fired on the spot when he got caught. However, six months down the line it would have been unfair to punish him again (even if his original repremand was insufficient) just because it had all become public. I'm sure that it still serves as a lesson to CCP employees. (PS. I don't have anything against T20 as a person, I've never met him. I'm sure he is a great guy, and good at his job - I just hope that he knows how much crap we have to go through all the time because of him :P His actions were stupid, but I'm sure he isn't the first person in the history of mankind to screw up.)
Noshi Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:53:00 - [433] Just watch the video and maybe you will understand, I mean seriously watch all 3:50 seconds of it. Once you have you will understand why we are better than you. The Noob Effect Cheers.
Ver0nik Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2008.09.01 17:57:00 - [434] Edited by: Ver0nik on 01/09/2008 18:00:47 Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Avon Originally by: Fanduril You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad. I don't? Yep, you don't. Avon, you're trying so hard but only getting that far, which isn't very far unfortunately. Sad. Look Fanduril, cut the SA crap, will you? EvE is maybe the single game Goons suck at. You are a mediocre alliance, there are several other alliances that can erase you from the map. You have(had) friends, without them you would be just some empire grifers, simple as that. Goon spirit, true Goon spirit is diluted in EvE because you found a game where you have to be better to win instead of "awful" tactics. Quoting from your last SOTG: "BoB aren't fun to fight".. fnck me, coming from a goon that's priceless. You play EvE, you are goon only by name. Now, go scam a noob about it.
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:08:00 - [435] 1. Point of fact: T20 cheated 2. Assumption of fools: thus, it "logically" follows a lot more unseen cheating MUST be going on anywhere there could possibly be characters owned by CCP employees. 3. Point of fact: Goons have more CCP than BoB (or at least did when this all came out about year ago, not sure about today...) Thus, when adding the 3 points listed above, to determine where the cheating is happening, there is only ONE possible conclusion... Conclusion: umm,.... ummmmm,..... (MUST IGNORE LINKING 2 and 3) BOB HAXEXPLOITSWAHHHHHHH!!!!
Lkptum Drtom Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:17:00 - [436] I just wanted to say "Hi" to all NC since they're probably reading this and not defending their systems. Oh and of course because all the famous people already posted here, Hi Avon , and I don't want to be left apart
Interstellar Trust	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:24:00 - [437] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Wizzkidy What worrys me is what did come out of the T20 incident I dont think painted the whole picture and i'm sure we wasn't told the whole truth. The thing is, if you want to believe in a conspiracy to make up for your own shortcommings, you will never believe the truth. There will always be "something more" being hidden from you, because the truth doesn't help justify your failings. That is true of almost any conspiracy theory. Usually people find it really hard to accept that mundane things do happen. Some guy in CCP wanted some T2 BPO's, and fiddled the system to get them. When CCP caught him and forced him to give up his character (a full six months before the whole thing came to public attention), he left his stuff with his corp (like many characters do, like enslaver did with his Titan when he became a GM, for example). The actions of that individual has tainted an entire alliance, and to start with I was really annoyed about the whole thing (as my posts at the time show). However, I know that I have never encountered anything in my 3 years in BoB which would give an unfair ingame advantage, just a lot of effort, dedication, and team-work. PS, FE the alliance was total fail, unlike the epic corp from which it spawned :P Ok so what you're saying is that only BoB has skill and noone else in the entire eve does. This is just funny due to the fact that there are only a handful of original bob flying around now days. 90% of BoB are those who jumped on the bandwagon from other unskilled alliances. So by this rational only those who join BoB gain talent. Or could it be that Shrike, Dianabolic get their info from GM's and Devs who they are friends with (according to Dianabolic) and are able to use this info strategically. Sort of like the DS 1 incident with a GM making himself a director and snooping around right before BoB's offensive. Majority of eve's population outside of BoB believe that there was more to CCP's favoritism then just the T20 incident. Some of them have quit EVE over that incident. Just because you're a BoB grunt and are not privy to high level information doesn't mean BoB is not getting an unfair advantage.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:30:00 - [438] It's pretty funny, no matter how hard BoB will try, nothing they will accomplish will be worth anything since they are considered cheaters by everyone
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:37:00 - [439] Hey Avon, You're making an ass out of yourself and CCP :) BOB cheat. <--wasn't that easy? I'm not saying that every single member of BOB are ISD or CCP at all, but tbh it only takes 1 to give you intel or inside info. BOB will be forever tainted by the cheats of the past, as will CCP.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:44:00 - [440] Originally by: Fanduril It's pretty funny, no matter how hard BoB will try, nothing they will accomplish will be worth anything since they are considered cheaters by everyone Goon posting about the value of accomplishments in an internet spaceships game ITT. You need to stop taking a game so seriously.

Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:45:00 - [441] Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Hey Avon, You're making an ass out of yourself and CCP :) BOB cheat. <--wasn't that easy? I'm not saying that every single member of BOB are ISD or CCP at all, but tbh it only takes 1 to give you intel or inside info. BOB will be forever tainted by the cheats of the past, as will CCP. Just to be clear then, any alliance which has ever had a member cheat is also forever tainted? Or does this just apply to BoB? Just askin'
Eleanor Coldfire	Posted - 2008.09.01 18:49:00 - [442] As it appears to be attack of the alts.... BoB have several proven events against them, and several substantial rumours: T20 BPO Scandal - Despite the BPOs being returned, BoB were able to gain a significant tactical and financial advantage over their enemies (the poem about a horse not having a shoe). BoB/CCP MSN Love - Admitted by BoB, that they had several members of CCP on their MSN contact lists. Event information being leaked to BoB - Ok, I am not 100% on this, but there have been many accusations. BoB using borderline exploits - Call it metagaming, call it being 'more uber than j00', however BoB have been using tactics which have been banned or extremely frowned upon by the community. Moving to wild rumour and speculation: BoB forcing their way into systems - BoB might have known that re-logging the client gave you a higher priority into getting into lagged systems, but they knew about this before a lot of other people. BoB's uncanny ability to be in the right place for the right event - During several trips up North, or out West; BoB has managed to come across some lucrative ISD events. Whether it be fully-fitted faction ships exploding in front of them, or turning up just as Guristas dreads appear out of the blue and attack a friendly POS, BoB always happen to be there. BoB beating lag - dispute it or not, BoB seem to be able to take advantage of lag. I am aware that some of the above can be applied to other alliances. I am aware that not all of the above has been proven; however a significant portion has. People question BoB, as BoB has done enough in the past to be questioned. With regards to NC causing lag. What do you expect? GBC turns up in a 200 man fleet, and the NC to say 'Ooo, we have 400 pilots, let's log half of them off so that we don't lag'?
Smokie McLottapot Caldari Keepers Of The Gate	Posted - 2008.09.01 19:02:00 - [443] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Smokie McLottapot Hey Avon, You're making an ass out of yourself and CCP :) BOB cheat. <--wasn't that easy? I'm not saying that every single member of BOB are ISD or CCP at all, but tbh it only takes 1 to give you intel or inside info. BOB will be forever tainted by the cheats of the past, as will CCP. Just to be clear then, any alliance which has ever had a member cheat is also forever tainted? Or does this just apply to BoB? Just askin' Well tbqh, there's no other enity in EVE that has been caught in so many different ploys. Between t20, ISD and your own leaders admiting they have "special channels" to contact CCP employees, do you not see where all this comes from? TBH I respect BOB for the things theve done, with 20+ titans and the biggest cap fleet in the game, you almost have to. But I don't think there will ever be a person in EVE that will belive BOB got all this by simply being better than everyone else, and not by "cheating", even if said "cheating" didn't happen.
Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 19:11:00 - [444] Edited by: Abriana Overlord on 01/09/2008 19:13:51 Edited by: Abriana Overlord on 01/09/2008 19:12:54 Originally by: Eleanor Coldfire As it appears to be attack of the alts.... BoB have several proven events against them, and several substantial rumours: T20 BPO Scandal - Despite the BPOs being returned, BoB were able to gain a significant tactical and financial advantage over their enemies (the poem about a horse not having a shoe). BoB/CCP MSN Love - Admitted by BoB, that they had several members of CCP on their MSN contact lists. Event information being leaked to BoB - Ok, I am not 100% on this, but there have been many accusations. BoB using borderline exploits - Call it metagaming, call it being 'more uber than j00', however BoB have been using tactics which have been banned or extremely frowned upon by the community. Moving to wild rumour and speculation: BoB forcing their way into systems - BoB might have known that re-logging the client gave you a higher priority into getting into lagged systems, but they knew about this before a lot of other people. BoB's uncanny ability to be in the right place for the right event - During several trips up North, or out West; BoB has managed to come across some lucrative ISD events. Whether it be fully-fitted faction ships exploding in front of them, or turning up just as Guristas dreads appear out of the blue and attack a friendly POS, BoB always happen to be there. BoB beating lag - dispute it or not, BoB seem to be able to take advantage of lag. I am aware that some of the above can be applied to other alliances. I am aware that not all of the above has been proven; however a significant portion has. People question BoB, as BoB has done enough in the past to be questioned. With regards to NC causing lag. What do you expect? GBC turns up in a 200 man fleet, and the NC to say 'Ooo, we have 400 pilots, let's log half of them off so that we don't lag'? Please do not forget that we are all devs We have our own DEVHAXPLOITLAGOFDOOMTOTALHELLDEATH client We have absolutely no teamwork) Everything we accomplish in game is through pure luck or sploits Or is it just a case of you are tired of us continously kicking your ass all over eve the mind ponders......
Schani Kratnorr x13	Posted - 2008.09.01 19:23:00 - [445] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. For the record, I fly with BoB as a part of GBC. I have been active (EU TZ) over the last few months, and apart from a recent off period, I have been present at almost all regroups in my TZ. 20 minutes for 3 jumps is NOTHING. I once spent 2 hours getting two jumps. When more than 100 ships are headed the same way, poor performance on jumps is the norm. Usually it takes a few minutes, but sometimes it can take more than ten just to get through a gate. To somehow think you are the only ones suffering from crappy performance is wrong. You, Are, Wrong. The correct method of complaining about possible cheats and abuse is to create a petition and await judgement - NOT post accusations on the public forum. As a self-proclaimed veteran, you should know better. IF BoB somehow has a "create shitty performance" button they should be stopped, do you not agree? If you agree, then you must also adhere to the agreed conventions for such complaints (petitions please). Coming in here and posting automatically invalidates your claim, and (in this case) marks you as a 'whining fool of a newbie'. I would personally prefer 'asshat' or at best 'troll' depending on the motive behind your post. You are, by association calling me a cheater (since I fly under GBC flag). I did contemplate petitioning you, but frankly cannot see what good it would do. Instead I will close this post with a classic... Stuff, can I have???
Ver0nik Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2008.09.01 19:35:00 - [446] Do you know why TRI is on front page and not a single word about BoB & Co trashing 3 regions, killing 6 moms and some change? To keep you anti-bob losers happy. (btw, good job TRI) Do you know why bobbits have so strong bonds? No? Well, you have to cheat from time to time, it's a "cheaters" thing. Originally by: Eleanor Coldfire With regards to NC causing lag. What do you expect? GBC turns up in a 200 man fleet, and the NC to say 'Ooo, we have 400 pilots, let's log half of them off so that we don't lag'? After 8 inches of "BoB lag exploits" this is all you can think of? I know you can do better, fall back and take your time. PROUD TO BE A CHEATER
Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:14:00 - [447] Originally by: Eleanor Coldfire As it appears to be attack of the alts.... BoB have several proven events against them, and several substantial rumours: T20 BPO Scandal - Despite the BPOs being returned, BoB were able to gain a significant tactical and financial advantage over their enemies (the poem about a horse not having a shoe). BoB/CCP MSN Love - Admitted by BoB, that they had several members of CCP on their MSN contact lists. Event information being leaked to BoB - Ok, I am not 100% on this, but there have been many accusations. BoB using borderline exploits - Call it metagaming, call it being 'more uber than j00', however BoB have been using tactics which have been banned or extremely frowned upon by the community. Moving to wild rumour and speculation: BoB forcing their way into systems - BoB might have known that re-logging the client gave you a higher priority into getting into lagged systems, but they knew about this before a lot of other people. BoB's uncanny ability to be in the right place for the right event - During several trips up North, or out West; BoB has managed to come across some lucrative ISD events. Whether it be fully-fitted faction ships exploding in front of them, or turning up just as Guristas dreads appear out of the blue and attack a friendly POS, BoB always happen to be there. BoB beating lag - dispute it or not, BoB seem to be able to take advantage of lag. I am aware that some of the above can be applied to other alliances. I am aware that not all of the above has been proven; however a significant portion has. People question BoB, as BoB has done enough in the past to be questioned. With regards to NC causing lag. What do you expect? GBC turns up in a 200 man fleet, and the NC to say 'Ooo, we have 400 pilots, let's log half of them off so that we don't lag'? And even more serious cheating has been PROVEN against non-BoB. But, for one example, you don't whine daily about the Proven , Approved at the HIGHEST Level of Alliance leadership, client hacking that was done by Goons. Heck, almost everyone knows about T20, an individual, but almost no one remembers, or cares, about the proven non-bob stuff. Go back further, and you'll find other examples. One I remember hearing about when I first joined Eve was a farming exploit that involved smartbombs and fast spawning NPCs. If memory serves it was some Russians doing it, but it was like 4 years ago, so not sure, but was pretty serious at the time. Wonder why we dont hear daily about the non-bob stuff? Because you know BoB is better than you are, and it just eats at you. So ceaselessly you howl and whine on the forums. And what eats at you most is that the BoB leadership is clean, and works to keep BoB clean, AND STILL BEATS YOU.
MacLuven EL Bernays School of Strategic Communication	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:19:00 - [448] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Avon And to think I stuck my neck on the line so your corp could keep it's name. Sad. You know what's sad? You, and your posting. Sad. This is why real SA Goons call Eve Goons useless pubbies.
fireflyer Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:28:00 - [449] must admit everytime i fight against BOB ,strange things happens,GM said nothing in their logs so.......
Ztrain Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:40:00 - [450] Yes

Inthemix Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:41:00 - [451] Originally by: fireflyer must admit everytime i fight against BOB ,strange things happens,GM said nothing in their logs so....... Same for me
aak88 Caldari CORE Elements Tread Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:43:00 - [452] Edited by: aak88 on 01/09/2008 20:44:20 OMG BoB creates lag?!?!?!?! Well ***t now I know how -A- kills me. They must hack and create lag too. Come to think of it, I guess a lot of ppl in eve will be happy to know that their enemies are all hacking and that's were the lag comes from. edit: This is sarcasm and is not a smack at BoB or -A- it's actually a smack at those that complain too much bout lag and cheating. We all live with lag everyday...get used to it.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:46:00 - [453] Originally by: fireflyer must admit everytime i fight against BOB ,strange things happens,GM said nothing in their logs so....... Everytime I fight TCF, they log off or run away unless they outnumber 3-1. Then they complain of lag. Hmmmmmm.......
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 20:56:00 - [454] Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Zothike Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2008.09.01 21:00:00 - [455] Edited by: Zothike on 01/09/2008 21:00:24 The great divide between EVE's players and developers
Kilostream Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.01 21:30:00 - [456] Anyone know if Luthien's been back since he went to bed to confirm he still doesn't regret making this thread?
Estios Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.01 22:44:00 - [457] I get bad lag, 5 years, guys ,Ive known you and you dont share these hax, weak man weak
Anikadir Minmatar The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.09.01 22:49:00 - [458] I used to get really bad lag, but then I found that if I stopped downloading **** at the same time, the game magically sped up!!!! /me runs off to the technical forums to post this wonderful EvE speed enhancement.
MineralOel Steuer Amarr OP EC	Posted - 2008.09.02 00:09:00 - [459] You should except it. They're better than you.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 00:22:00 - [460] Quality emo rage, will laugh again. The funniest though is that this obvious troll doesn't get deleted/locked by he mods but windypops does that modded.

Draumr Kopa Black Screen of Death HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.09.02 00:42:00 - [461] Fantastic Op is this up for emo/nerd rage thread of the year?
Adm Tecumseh Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 02:05:00 - [462] Originally by: Fanduril Originally by: Avon Originally by: Fanduril You know what's sad? You don't know SA, how it works, and why you suck. Sad. I don't? Yep, you don't. Avon, you're trying so hard but only getting that far, which isn't very far unfortunately. Sad. Avon, your disagreeing with a goon? Why bother wasting the words?
Sentinel Eeex Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 03:00:00 - [463] Originally by: Lord WarATron Originally by: fireflyer must admit everytime i fight against BOB ,strange things happens,GM said nothing in their logs so....... Everytime I fight TCF, they log off or run away unless they outnumber 3-1. Then they complain of lag. Hmmmmmm....... I mean, we have some really dumb people, but you guys... you're a ****ing factory.
Aus Nova ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.02 03:34:00 - [464] Slay the evil manyheaded GBC dragon. The despoiler of good, honest and clean gameplay in EVE. Declare a Jihad and combine and wipe them from the game. aaahh I think the combine part might be the problem.
Homo Erectus Evolution	Posted - 2008.09.02 03:53:00 - [465] - I pray for the day that any member of goonswarm is a tenth as good at playing this game as they are poasting mock 4chan crap on coad. - I pray for the day that any member of NC is a tenth as good at piloting a titan as they as they are at being decimated by one. - I pray for the day that anyone who hasn't been dismantled by BoB or BoB/friend has the minerals to admit they need to improve at eve. Again, suck less at Eve, quit being lackluster, unskilled, crybaby, peasant, losers; and get some manhood.
Izuru Hishido Amarr ADVANCED Combat and Engineering	Posted - 2008.09.02 04:09:00 - [466] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Originally by: enjoi lol, do you even know what happens when 350 people are on the same node, and all of those are traveling or fighting? Lots of packets. You said your fleet was within three jumps of ours. I guess we just gave CCP the ol' wink and the gun and they reallocated the Jita backup for only our system. But yeah, we obviously cheated, it's the only rational explanation. You want to talk of rational explanations ? Rational explantations - BOB has already been caught cheating. You had a real, living person, who works for CCP and 'WHO STILL WORKS FOR THEM' hacking into the 'EVE UNIVERSE' and giving you 'T2 BPO'S' We will never know what 'CCP GIFTED TO BOB' Uhhh, you obviously had no chance to play with a real person that has been around since before T2 BPO's were removed from the game. READ THIS CAREFULLY. BOB has T2 BPO's MAYBE, but that means they've had them forever, back when T2 ****nits first came out, so there's no foul play here.
Presidio Hug Nutz	Posted - 2008.09.02 05:42:00 - [467] Edited by: Presidio on 02/09/2008 05:43:01 Originally by: Homo Erectus ps. Presidio: you've been steaming at Evol/Bob since you were made into a woman 3+ years ago after being destroyed in battle repeatedly. You crying now is transparent. You should have used a 2 yr old alt for God's sake. "look at me I got an enormous ego" At least your caps lock works now. Anyways I don't remember seeing you in many of the battles for a year we spent fighting. We got tired of fighting BoB and we moved on. Can you? We gave it a year, more then anyone else in the game probably. Guess what else we didn't take any backhanded deals from CCP either, nor were we helped by half of EVE or CCP like you did. Also for all those fleet battles I was in leading the fleet you guys failed to kill me once. How many of you can say the same? .. That's right zero. Suck less Homo. In the end you guys won, and we lost. I got no problem admitting it but at least we fought with honor, vastly outnumbered by every PvP corp in the game (from m0o, evol to atuk and bunch of bandwagon jumpers from all corners of EVE). Like I said before I got no beef with BoB, most of BoB has changed anyways and not many of them know me. There are even some ex GODS guys in BoB. But if you want to keep smacking be my guest. p.s. I don't need to hide behind an alt, I speak the truth so I got nothing to be afraid of.
Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.09.02 06:07:00 - [468] its pretty easy to teach a large gang to cycle mods while shooting a cyno jammer to create lag. Perhaps everyone should try it instead of whining.
Prof Patpending Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.09.02 06:13:00 - [469] Originally by: Severe Admin its pretty easy to teach a large gang to cycle mods while shooting a cyno jammer to create lag. Perhaps everyone should try it instead of whining. Petitioned! hes using hax!
Severe Admin Blind Industries	Posted - 2008.09.02 06:14:00 - [470] its me im using hax hes right.

Uraniumslug StormWraith Company	Posted - 2008.09.02 06:25:00 - [471] Originally by: Crimsonjade Edited by: Crimsonjade on 31/08/2008 03:13:18 Originally by: Presidio Great I missed you too <3 hi tex. after reading the first few pages im shocked! didnt think that many WOW players came to eve. boy was i ever wrong Yeah but most of us just lurk posting occasionally.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 06:50:00 - [472] What a bunch of crybabies... it's not like BoB has even been suspected of cheating in the past! Originally by: Dianabolic CCP are going to run an event in Fountain that lasts 6 monthts, including building a serpentis outpost, utilitising npc dreadnoughts and titans, installing npc POS that we're expected to take down, etc. This will coincide with NPC factions teaming up with player factions to fight other npc factions, for various rewards of whatever type. Why haven't I blurted this out to all and sundry? You're all **ed off that I haven't immediately made a post on here saying OMG OMG OMG LOOK WHAT CCP ARE GOING TO DO, yet I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP. You think I WANTED to keep this from you? Originally by:** DimensionZ I never kept informations from you i beleive, hell even t20 secret infos i had in the past, i trusted u all with those. We also know that BoB doesn't deal with ISK farmers! As we've seen in the thread about the Daisho titan, BoB has clearly a moral high ground on the matter... don't they? Quote: [08:46:29] [@Molle]: oh btw [08:46:48] [@Molle]: [08:05:48] NGRU Rix > we'd [08:46:48] [@Molle]: be more than happy to pay, [08:46:48] [@Molle]: however we dont know a [08:46:48] [@Molle]: price nor if you even [08:46:48] [@Molle]: actually do it [08:46:49] [@Molle]: [08:06:45] NGRU Rix > 1 bill [08:46:51] [@Molle]: a week? [08:47:19] [@dbp]: I know that name? [08:47:24] [@Molle]: dkdn *s [08:47:28] [@Molle]: the plex ***s [08:47:37] [@Druid]: NGRU Rix is the ebay god [08:47:39] [@dbp]: they want to do the plex in a2-? [08:47:44] [@Molle]: lol yes [08:47:55] [@Molle]: for a bill per week [08:47:56] [@dbp]: tell him 3 billion a week... 1 bil per bob corp [08:48:04] [@Molle]: ill see what he says [08:48:17] [@dbp]: worth a try [08:48:22] [@dbp]: if not, take the bil [08:48:28] [@dbp]: getting other peeps to do it is perfect [08:48:36] [@Molle]: wrong peeps tho [08:48:46] [@dbp]: yeah but you know they are good for it [08:48:50] [@Molle]: yep [08:48:50] [@dbp]: as they will actually do it everyday [08:49:08] [@dbp]: if CCP want to deal with them ebay'ing then it's their responsibility [08:49:22] [@dbp]: we can't be responsible for cleaning up the whole game single-handidly ;P [08:49:24] [@Molle]: extorting ebayers lol [08:51:08] [@Molle]: 2006.01.21 08:34 [08:51:08] [@Molle]: Instead of paying you weekly, we pay you every time we run the complex, we'll send you 150m per run, currently the [08:51:08] [@Molle]: drop rate on bpcs and mods seems to be very low, infact we have not seen a BPC for a very long time. [08:51:08] [@Molle]: If ccp ever fix the drop rate on bpcs this 150m could turn into a higher number, depends how often they drop, but [08:51:09] [@Molle]: atm they dont seem to be dropping atall, when they used to drop the complex gave a lot more overall isk. [08:51:11] [@Molle]: Anyway, 150m per run, that means if we ran the complex 14 times in 1 week, we would pay you a total of 2.1 billion [08:51:14] [@Molle]: isk for that week, 150m is a decent percentage of what is made overall if you factor in that the first overseer is [08:51:17] [@Molle]: usually never there, and on the seconnd respawn, either the major, officer or seargent often does not show up.
Seraphax Pilots Of Honour Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.09.02 07:13:00 - [473] Originally by: Fanduril Quote: [08:46:29] [@Molle]: oh btw [08:46:48] [@Molle]: [08:05:48] NGRU Rix > we'd [08:46:48] [@Molle]: be more than happy to pay, [08:46:48] [@Molle]: however we dont know a [08:46:48] [@Molle]: price nor if you even [08:46:48] [@Molle]: actually do it [08:46:49] [@Molle]: [08:06:45] NGRU Rix > 1 bill [08:46:51] [@Molle]: a week? [08:47:19] [@dbp]: I know that name? [08:47:24] [@Molle]: dkdn *s [08:47:28] [@Molle]: the plex ***s [08:47:37] [@Druid]: NGRU Rix is the ebay god [08:47:39] [@dbp]: they want to do the plex in a2-? [08:47:44] [@Molle]: lol yes [08:47:55] [@Molle]: for a bill per week [08:47:56] [@dbp]: tell him 3 billion a week... 1 bil per bob corp [08:48:04] [@Molle]: ill see what he says [08:48:17] [@dbp]: worth a try [08:48:22] [@dbp]: if not, take the bil [08:48:28] [@dbp]: getting other peeps to do it is perfect [08:48:36] [@Molle]: wrong peeps tho [08:48:46] [@dbp]: yeah but you know they are good for it [08:48:50] [@Molle]: yep [08:48:50] [@dbp]: as they will actually do it everyday [08:49:08] [@dbp]: if CCP want to deal with them ebay'ing then it's their responsibility [08:49:22] [@dbp]: we can't be responsible for cleaning up the whole game single-handidly ;P [08:49:24] [@Molle]: extorting ebayers lol [08:51:08] [@Molle]: 2006.01.21 08:34 [08:51:08] [@Molle]: Instead of paying you weekly, we pay you every time we run the complex, we'll send you 150m per run, currently the [08:51:08] [@Molle]: drop rate on bpcs and mods seems to be very low, infact we have not seen a BPC for a very long time. [08:51:08] [@Molle]: If ccp ever fix the drop rate on bpcs this 150m could turn into a higher number, depends how often they drop, but [08:51:09] [@Molle]: atm they dont seem to be dropping atall, when they used to drop the complex gave a lot more overall isk. [08:51:11] [@Molle]: Anyway, 150m per run, that means if we ran the complex 14 times in 1 week, we would pay you a total of 2.1 billion [08:51:14] [@Molle]: isk for that week, 150m is a decent percentage of what is made overall if you factor in that the first overseer is [08:51:17] [@Molle]: usually never there, and on the seconnd respawn, either the major, officer or seargent often does not show up. Molle's in game name is SirMolle, something you forgot when you forged that log. epic failure.
halp me THE INTERNET.	Posted - 2008.09.02 07:56:00 - [474] Edited by: halp me on 02/09/2008 07:56:41 Originally by: Sergeant Spot Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 01/09/2008 21:19:17 Originally by: Eleanor Coldfire As it appears to be attack of the alts.... BoB have several proven events against them, and several substantial rumours: T20 BPO Scandal - Despite the BPOs being returned, BoB were able to gain a significant tactical and financial advantage over their enemies (the poem about a horse not having a shoe). BoB/CCP MSN Love - Admitted by BoB, that they had several members of CCP on their MSN contact lists. Event information being leaked to BoB - Ok, I am not 100% on this, but there have been many accusations. BoB using borderline exploits - Call it metagaming, call it being 'more uber than j00', however BoB have been using tactics which have been banned or extremely frowned upon by the community. Moving to wild rumour and speculation: BoB forcing their way into systems - BoB might have known that re-logging the client gave you a higher priority into getting into lagged systems, but they knew about this before a lot of other people. BoB's uncanny ability to be in the right place for the right event - During several trips up North, or out West; BoB has managed to come across some lucrative ISD events. Whether it be fully-fitted faction ships exploding in front of them, or turning up just as Guristas dreads appear out of the blue and attack a friendly POS, BoB always happen to be there. BoB beating lag - dispute it or not, BoB seem to be able to take advantage of lag. I am aware that some of the above can be applied to other alliances. I am aware that not all of the above has been proven; however a significant portion has. People question BoB, as BoB has done enough in the past to be questioned. With regards to NC causing lag. What do you expect? GBC turns up in a 200 man fleet, and the NC to say 'Ooo, we have 400 pilots, let's log half of them off so that we don't lag'? And even more serious cheating has been PROVEN against non-BoB. For one example, you don't whine daily about the Proven , Approved at the HIGHEST Level of Alliance leadership, client hacking that was done by Goons. Heck, almost everyone knows about T20, an individual, but almost no one remembers, or cares, about the proven non-bob stuff. Go back further, and you'll find other MANY examples. One of the earliest I remember hearing about when I first joined Eve was a farming exploit that involved smartbombs and fast spawning NPCs. If memory serves it was some Russians doing it, but it was like 4 years ago, so not sure, but was pretty serious at the time. Wonder why we dont hear daily about the non-bob stuff? Because you know BoB is better than you are, and it just eats at you. So ceaselessly you howl and whine on the forums. And what eats at you most is that the BoB leadership is clean, and works to keep BoB clean, AND STILL BEATS YOU. yep dbp was clean alright so was t20, obviously we are all mistaken, thanks for clarifying
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 08:07:00 - [475] What a bunch of crybabies... it's not like BoB has even been suspected of cheating in the past! Originally by: Dianabolic CCP are going to run an event in Fountain that lasts 6 monthts, including building a serpentis outpost, utilitising npc dreadnoughts and titans, installing npc POS that we're expected to take down, etc. This will coincide with NPC factions teaming up with player factions to fight other npc factions, for various rewards of whatever type. Why haven't I blurted this out to all and sundry? You're all **ed off that I haven't immediately made a post on here saying OMG OMG OMG LOOK WHAT CCP ARE GOING TO DO, yet I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP. You think I WANTED to keep this from you? Originally by:** DimensionZ I never kept informations from you i beleive, hell even t20 secret infos i had in the past, i trusted u all with those. We also know that BoB doesn't deal with ISK farmers! As we've seen in the thread about the Daisho titan, BoB has clearly a moral high ground on the matter... don't they? Quote: [08:46:29] [@Molle]: oh btw [08:46:48] [@Molle]: [08:05:48] NGRU Rix > we'd [08:46:48] [@Molle]: be more than happy to pay, [08:46:48] [@Molle]: however we dont know a [08:46:48] [@Molle]: price nor if you even [08:46:48] [@Molle]: actually do it [08:46:49] [@Molle]: [08:06:45] NGRU Rix > 1 bill [08:46:51] [@Molle]: a week? [08:47:19] [@dbp]: I know that name? [08:47:24] [@Molle]: dkdn *s [08:47:28] [@Molle]: the plex ***s [08:47:37] [@Druid]: NGRU Rix is the ebay god [08:47:39] [@dbp]: they want to do the plex in a2-? [08:47:44] [@Molle]: lol yes [08:47:55] [@Molle]: for a bill per week [08:47:56] [@dbp]: tell him 3 billion a week... 1 bil per bob corp [08:48:04] [@Molle]: ill see what he says [08:48:17] [@dbp]: worth a try [08:48:22] [@dbp]: if not, take the bil [08:48:28] [@dbp]: getting other peeps to do it is perfect [08:48:36] [@Molle]: wrong peeps tho [08:48:46] [@dbp]: yeah but you know they are good for it [08:48:50] [@Molle]: yep [08:48:50] [@dbp]: as they will actually do it everyday [08:49:08] [@dbp]: if CCP want to deal with them ebay'ing then it's their responsibility [08:49:22] [@dbp]: we can't be responsible for cleaning up the whole game single-handidly ;P [08:49:24] [@Molle]: extorting ebayers lol [08:51:08] [@Molle]: 2006.01.21 08:34 [08:51:08] [@Molle]: Instead of paying you weekly, we pay you every time we run the complex, we'll send you 150m per run, currently the [08:51:08] [@Molle]: drop rate on bpcs and mods seems to be very low, infact we have not seen a BPC for a very long time. [08:51:08] [@Molle]: If ccp ever fix the drop rate on bpcs this 150m could turn into a higher number, depends how often they drop, but [08:51:09] [@Molle]: atm they dont seem to be dropping atall, when they used to drop the complex gave a lot more overall isk. [08:51:11] [@Molle]: Anyway, 150m per run, that means if we ran the complex 14 times in 1 week, we would pay you a total of 2.1 billion [08:51:14] [@Molle]: isk for that week, 150m is a decent percentage of what is made overall if you factor in that the first overseer is [08:51:17] [@Molle]: usually never there, and on the seconnd respawn, either the major, officer or seargent often does not show up.
Kuria Pang	Posted - 2008.09.02 09:44:00 - [476] WTS Badger II
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.02 10:45:00 - [477] Originally by: Fanduril grapsing at straws What relevance does this have to bob cheating, bob exploiting isk farmers (Most alliances in the game have done this btw) and bob having someone on CCP's end manipulating lag are entirely different things you dolt. Quit building straw men and trying to distract everyone to derail this topic to your own rediculous ends, every real goon thinks the eve goons are terrible and should seriously stfu and diaf.
Tifa Lionheart Minmatar The Beautiful People	Posted - 2008.09.02 10:56:00 - [478] Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Fanduril grapsing at straws What relevance does this have to bob cheating, bob exploiting isk farmers (Most alliances in the game have done this btw) and bob having someone on CCP's end manipulating lag are entirely different things you dolt. Quit building straw men and trying to distract everyone to derail this topic to your own rediculous ends, every real goon thinks the eve goons are terrible and should seriously stfu and diaf. So by your logic If Peter Sutcliffe or Charles Manson had got up in court and said 'But, but most people have killed someone, at least a lot have' They would have got community service, right ??
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.02 10:59:00 - [479] Edited by: Proxay on 02/09/2008 11:00:26 Originally by: Tifa Lionheart Originally by: Proxay Originally by: Fanduril grapsing at straws What relevance does this have to bob cheating, bob exploiting isk farmers (Most alliances in the game have done this btw) and bob having someone on CCP's end manipulating lag are entirely different things you dolt. Quit building straw men and trying to distract everyone to derail this topic to your own rediculous ends, every real goon thinks the eve goons are terrible and should seriously stfu and diaf. So by your logic If Peter Sutcliffe or Charles Manson had got up in court and said 'But, but most people have killed someone, at least a lot have' They would have got community service, right ?? You're comparing charging them for something they'd do anyway to murder? It's quite simple, you find they've infested some nearby space you don't venture into often, you then charge them to be there. Even though you have almost nil control over the area, it's like being in RA and leasing out delve to isk farmers, they know no better. You are just raping money off them that would otherwise go to Ebay, if anything, you're helping to stem the amount of Ebayed money by charging them to be there. Edit: I hate isk farmers, do not deal with them in any way, aside from blasting a hole in the side of their ship.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:04:00 - [480] Yeah sure, except you were in Xelas and Xelas was harboring tons of isk farmers. Nice try at diverting the attention from the topic at hand, though, but you're still playing with a bunch of cheaters (and even in a condition of pet, lmao).

Thol's Ego Tin Foil Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:08:00 - [481] Edited by: Thol''s Ego on 02/09/2008 11:09:37 Look at all those people making excuses for their failures. lol.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:10:00 - [482] Edited by: Fanduril on 02/09/2008 11:10:56 Originally by: Thol's Ego thanks for logs from 2005, where isk farmers weren't even present in eve. hence the 3 bob corps. It hasn't happened this year, hence it didn't happen. Nice ninja edit btw
Thol's Ego Tin Foil Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:13:00 - [483] Edited by: Thol''s Ego on 02/09/2008 11:13:09 Originally by: Fanduril Edited by: Fanduril on 02/09/2008 11:10:56 Originally by: Thol's Ego thanks for logs from 2005, where isk farmers weren't even present in eve. hence the 3 bob corps. It hasn't happened this year, hence it didn't happen. Nice ninja edit btw you mean opinions on how to deal with matters cannot change over 3 years? ofc not! keep grasping them straws, maybe you'll soon invade querious over it.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:14:00 - [484] Yeah, opinions change. People thought you were strong. Then, the truth surfaced, and a lot of people changed their opinions.
Thol's Ego Tin Foil Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:16:00 - [485] Originally by: Fanduril Yeah, opinions change. People thought you were strong. Then, the truth surfaced, and a lot of people changed their opinions. Ahhhhhhhhh, Is that why you defeated us? Oh wait....
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:17:00 - [486] Originally by: Fanduril Yeah, opinions change. People thought you were strong. Then, the truth surfaced, and a lot of people changed their opinions. Srsly I prefer if people think we're weak, it's better for getting fights. Too many people think too highly of BoB. Continue beating a dead horse though with your posts!
BackWardszBanDiT	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:18:00 - [487] WTS sell TWD thong with studds.
Fanduril Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:24:00 - [488] Originally by: TWD Srsly I prefer if people think we're weak, it's better for getting fights. Too many people think too highly of BoB. Continue beating a dead horse though with your posts! It's evident that your alliance doesn't care, as evidenced by the lack of posts in this thread. Oh wait.
Silence iKillYouu hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:25:00 - [489] Originally by: Seraphax Originally by: Fanduril Quote: [08:46:29] [@Molle]: oh btw [08:46:48] [@Molle]: [08:05:48] NGRU Rix > we'd [08:46:48] [@Molle]: be more than happy to pay, [08:46:48] [@Molle]: however we dont know a [08:46:48] [@Molle]: price nor if you even [08:46:48] [@Molle]: actually do it [08:46:49] [@Molle]: [08:06:45] NGRU Rix > 1 bill [08:46:51] [@Molle]: a week? [08:47:19] [@dbp]: I know that name? [08:47:24] [@Molle]: dkdn *s [08:47:28] [@Molle]: the plex *s [08:47:37] [@Druid]: NGRU Rix is the ebay god [08:47:39] [@dbp]: they want to do the plex in a2-? [08:47:44] [@Molle]: lol yes [08:47:55] [@Molle]: for a bill per week [08:47:56] [@dbp]: tell him 3 billion a week... 1 bil per bob corp [08:48:04] [@Molle]: ill see what he says [08:48:17] [@dbp]: worth a try [08:48:22] [@dbp]: if not, take the bil [08:48:28] [@dbp]: getting other peeps to do it is perfect [08:48:36] [@Molle]: wrong peeps tho [08:48:46] [@dbp]: yeah but you know they are good for it [08:48:50] [@Molle]: yep [08:48:50] [@dbp]: as they will actually do it everyday [08:49:08] [@dbp]: if CCP want to deal with them ebay'ing then it's their responsibility [08:49:22] [@dbp]: we can't be responsible for cleaning up the whole game single-handidly ;P [08:49:24] [@Molle]: extorting ebayers lol [08:51:08] [@Molle]: 2006.01.21 08:34 [08:51:08] [@Molle]: Instead of paying you weekly, we pay you every time we run the complex, we'll send you 150m per run, currently the [08:51:08] [@Molle]: drop rate on bpcs and mods seems to be very low, infact we have not seen a BPC for a very long time. [08:51:08] [@Molle]: If ccp ever fix the drop rate on bpcs this 150m could turn into a higher number, depends how often they drop, but [08:51:09] [@Molle]: atm they dont seem to be dropping atall, when they used to drop the complex gave a lot more overall isk. [08:51:11] [@Molle]: Anyway, 150m per run, that means if we ran the complex 14 times in 1 week, we would pay you a total of 2.1 billion [08:51:14] [@Molle]: isk for that week, 150m is a decent percentage of what is made overall if you factor in that the first overseer is [08:51:17] [@Molle]: usually never there, and on the seconnd respawn, either the major, officer or seargent often does not show up. Molle's in game name is SirMolle, something you forgot when you forged that log. epic failure. omfg, it is obvious that the log is from an IRC channel you dumb **. learn 2 think.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:28:00 - [490] Originally by: Fanduril It's evident that your alliance doesn't care, as evidenced by the lack of posts in this thread. Oh wait. I care about all our fans, the forums would not be as amusing without you <3.

Ari Xali Caldari Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:35:00 - [491] Everybody yelling at BoB. OMG your cheaterz..... Heres the thing, BoB simply play the game better than the rest of us do. They dedicate themselves to it. They aspire to be the best, and they try damn hard to keep being the best. But you all complain about it, t20, lag exploits, etc etc. Envy is a terrible thing...... Don't complain, get on with it, make your alliances stronger, get your FC's trained and hold them to a higher standard, set your alarm to get up at 3am for a fleet battle, taking down a POS, moving a freighter, whatever.. "oh but I have rl issues"...don't whine about that, I KNOW BoB has real life too, but EVE is where they like to be the best, so they make time for it. BoB is not the old BoB. of course not. When I joined my corp there were around 20 guys in corp, they all left and I'm now the oldest member. Memberships change but philosophies don't. People cheat. Its happened in BoB. It's happened in Goons. It's happened elsewhere too. But lets not assign everything that goes on as an exploit or cheating, that way lies madness. We want a better game, we don't want lag, we want a level playing field, we don't want cheating. The game is not pure anymore.....BUT IT NEVER WAS!!!! EVE has grown and adapted to changing circumstances. BoB has always tried to stay ahead of the curve. That's not cheating. Thats just using their brains. Give BoB the credit that they are due. They have made the game better by playing in it. Now play better than them and beat them. They want a Challenge, so bring it. Don't Whine.... Oh, and let's complain in future about game mechanics and not what alliances have or have not done....
Silence iKillYouu hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:43:00 - [492] Can someone please lock this topic? It attracts everyone like a magnet, and there no more fun posts on CAOD anymore, so I can t keep myself entertained while at work. :(
Kola XXX Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 11:55:00 - [493] Originally by: Severe Admin its pretty easy to teach a large gang to cycle mods while shooting a cyno jammer to create lag. Perhaps everyone should try it instead of whining. you must rotate the mods..nob
Silence iKillYouu hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:05:00 - [494] http://kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=2781 whistles
Niina Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:23:00 - [495] Zomg! bob has them h4x?? Why we dont have them? Seriously tho, whole pos spamming sucks anyway, so if BoB wants to cheat at it im all in for it. Infact i ask CCP to give bob this amazing ability to wipe all POS's out of the game at once, kill all supercaps/carrierswarms from 20j away and even throw in a bonus of making all high sec gates close permanently traping carebears to empire space for good and leaving the rest to 0.0/low-sec w/o a change to retreat to highsec when things get rough. Funny thing tho, i remember posts like this were a trend 2 years ago too... guess eve never changes that much eh?
Eleanor Coldfire	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:39:00 - [496] Originally by: Silence iKillYouu http://kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=2781 whistles GMs moving random NC capitals? Surely not!
Lord Abbadon Gallente Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:52:00 - [497] So bob is having "advantages", whats new? they have been doing so for a long time. waves to the gms BoB cheat for the same reason that dogs lick their balls... because they can. (edited)
NokNok D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.02 12:56:00 - [498] Originally by: Eleanor Coldfire Originally by: Silence iKillYouu http://kugutsumen.com/showthread.php?t=2781 whistles GMs moving random NC capitals? Surely not! Last week I invited someone into a fleet, non cap ships in Obe. As soon as he accepted the invite he found himself in TVN station. He didn't use a clonejump, nor died. Bugs ftw
Brmble GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:17:00 - [499] ey yo who is this fanduril joker can I get some -rep support to take care of this thanks
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:25:00 - [500] 19 pages of utter sht. After the T20 debacle, CCP went to town to ensure nothing like this could happen again, anyone that thinks that BoB are actually controlling the servers etc to create lag and all the other crap we see in here, needs to get the tinfoil off and get a fkin clue. Stupid thread, any excuse for losing.

Necroth BEBOP Elite Bounty Hunters Nebula Crusade	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:49:00 - [501] 40k reads is enough of a proof to me...
elohllird Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:51:00 - [502] its me i read it 40k times, i was bored
PooooBear GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.09.02 13:52:00 - [503] Close this shit.
Ervol Libra Amarr Invenio Inceptum	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:00:00 - [504] its all just hitting F5 to see if someone says something funny again
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:03:00 - [505] Fake logs are fake, hi hi. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
MacLuven EL Bernays School of Strategic Communication	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:03:00 - [506] Originally by: Brmble ey yo who is this fanduril joker can I get some -rep support to take care of this thanks Until you poasted, he was the only Goon poasting in the forums for what seemed like all weekend, but at least you picked a first-class forum operator to keep the dream alive. btw, who was his sponsor? Cuz that guy must be proud as punch today. =--==--= Hi!
Ervol Libra Amarr Invenio Inceptum	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:04:00 - [507] OP is actually a goon alt
Spathi Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:09:00 - [508] Fanduril tries too hard. Go on, give it a press!
TradePirate	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:17:00 - [509] Originally by: Seraphax Originally by: Fanduril Quote: [08:46:29] [@Molle]: oh btw [08:46:48] [@Molle]: [08:05:48] NGRU Rix > we'd [08:46:48] [@Molle]: be more than happy to pay, [08:46:48] [@Molle]: however we dont know a [08:46:48] [@Molle]: price nor if you even [08:46:48] [@Molle]: actually do it [08:46:49] [@Molle]: [08:06:45] NGRU Rix > 1 bill [08:46:51] [@Molle]: a week? [08:47:19] [@dbp]: I know that name? [08:47:24] [@Molle]: dkdn *s [08:47:28] [@Molle]: the plex ***s [08:47:37] [@Druid]: NGRU Rix is the ebay god [08:47:39] [@dbp]: they want to do the plex in a2-? [08:47:44] [@Molle]: lol yes [08:47:55] [@Molle]: for a bill per week [08:47:56] [@dbp]: tell him 3 billion a week... 1 bil per bob corp [08:48:04] [@Molle]: ill see what he says [08:48:17] [@dbp]: worth a try [08:48:22] [@dbp]: if not, take the bil [08:48:28] [@dbp]: getting other peeps to do it is perfect [08:48:36] [@Molle]: wrong peeps tho [08:48:46] [@dbp]: yeah but you know they are good for it [08:48:50] [@Molle]: yep [08:48:50] [@dbp]: as they will actually do it everyday [08:49:08] [@dbp]: if CCP want to deal with them ebay'ing then it's their responsibility [08:49:22] [@dbp]: we can't be responsible for cleaning up the whole game single-handidly ;P [08:49:24] [@Molle]: extorting ebayers lol [08:51:08] [@Molle]: 2006.01.21 08:34 [08:51:08] [@Molle]: Instead of paying you weekly, we pay you every time we run the complex, we'll send you 150m per run, currently the [08:51:08] [@Molle]: drop rate on bpcs and mods seems to be very low, infact we have not seen a BPC for a very long time. [08:51:08] [@Molle]: If ccp ever fix the drop rate on bpcs this 150m could turn into a higher number, depends how often they drop, but [08:51:09] [@Molle]: atm they dont seem to be dropping atall, when they used to drop the complex gave a lot more overall isk. [08:51:11] [@Molle]: Anyway, 150m per run, that means if we ran the complex 14 times in 1 week, we would pay you a total of 2.1 billion [08:51:14] [@Molle]: isk for that week, 150m is a decent percentage of what is made overall if you factor in that the first overseer is [08:51:17] [@Molle]: usually never there, and on the seconnd respawn, either the major, officer or seargent often does not show up. Molle's in game name is SirMolle, something you forgot when you forged that log. epic failure. Its called IRC u noob
Praetor Novak Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:42:00 - [510] [ISSUE] Fleet Battle Lag - Give us back warfare on a massive scale. WARNING û Alliance/Power Block Neutral Post (Oh no! Whatever will you do?) If you love fleet battle lag as CCP has it currently implemented for hours of EVE fun, post your comments to the CSM in bulk. _ I picked up my copy (US bookstores are not carrying it) of Jim Rossignol's book "This Gaming Life, Travels in Three Cities" today and was reading page 36 where he refers to Quake Wars« when it dawned on me that EVE is missing something it sorely needs. The hardcore cadre of EVE players who live and die in 0.0 are feeling their needs unmet in a critical area. We crave the excitement of massive fleet engagements. War on a grand scale. However we've learned to be happy with smaller engagements often referred to as "roaming ops" or just purely "roamsö. We've been forced to be happy with these smaller battles because of game mechanics resulting from a hardware/software infrastructure that cannot handle the large scalability requirements necessary for such massive and epic battles. These epic battles are the stuff of EVE legend. The war defining battles consisting of hundreds of ships on both sides. The battles where people say I was there and ôit was crazyö, ôit was insaneö, but more importantly ôit was fun!ö This is one of the most incredible aspects of EVE; that we can put so much on the line for what we believe. That we can risk so much to have those pure moments of being ôin the zoneö swathed in utter gaming fun. EVE needs these wars just as surely as it needs a miner sitting in solitude sucking Veld from the vacuum of deep space. The epic battles continue because they are now a necessary escalation of the warfare in EVE that must be observed by all sides of the battle, however they are more work than fun. They have become long drawn out monotonies of screen refreshes, a patchwork of lagged out clicks usually resulting in an existential departure of your character from their fleeting life as you are either dead and just don't know it yet or rather worse sucked into the wormhole of a node crash. Rudely sitting at a login screen unable to rejoin the battle consumed by anger knowing that your comrades in arms are dying and you are helpless to gather again and help. You've (yes you CCP) created this sandbox, armed it to the teeth, told us to pick up the weapons and openly encouraged this escalation in warfare in EVE to the point where we see battles nearly daily and weekly that dwarf the engagements of the past. And yet they have become less a valuation of thrilling fun and more a required necessity of being a part of something bigger. Multiple Titans and Mothers, hundreds of capital ships, thousands of battleships and legion of support ships all fighting the primary enemy, lag. Fleetingly they are given the opportunity to fight each other between the server's graces. They are now as much loathed and begrudgingly attended as they should conversely be desired and sought after. We want to experience these massive fellowships of destruction and redemption to define the destiny of EVE and our own pilots. Fix this above all else û make massive fleet battles fun again, REMOVE THE LAG, remove the limitation of the current game mechanics from being the deciding factor in these most epic of battles! Let the victor be determined by the skill, fortitude, sheer luck and decisiveness of those whom wish to engage in this most holy pursuit of the chaos of EVE warfare. Give us warfare back on a massive scale and make it fun again.

Commander Solo Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.09.02 14:50:00 - [511] Edited by: Commander Solo on 02/09/2008 14:50:16 Originally by: Praetor Novak [ISSUE] Fleet Battle Lag - Give us back warfare on a massive scale. WARNING û Alliance/Power Block Neutral Post (Oh no! Whatever will you do?) Fix this above all else û make massive fleet battles fun again, REMOVE THE LAG, remove the limitation of the current game mechanics from being the deciding factor in these most epic of battles! Let the victor be determined by the skill, fortitude, sheer luck and decisiveness of those whom wish to engage in this most holy pursuit of the chaos of EVE warfare. Give us warfare back on a massive scale and make it fun again. Its only not fun if you are loosing. Did you ever stop and think that the players are responsible for lag? The unwillingness to engage with even or comprable numbers creates these situations not CCP. Its human nature, not bad design choices. massive !=fun
Praetor Novak Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.09.02 15:19:00 - [512] Originally by: Commander Solo Edited by: Commander Solo on 02/09/2008 14:50:16 Its only not fun if you are loosing. Did you ever stop and think that the players are responsible for lag? The unwillingness to engage with even or comprable numbers creates these situations not CCP. Its human nature, not bad design choices. massive !=fun Wow! You are truly impressive with your trite little comments. Did you ever stop and think about root cause analysis? CCP has engineered EVE to encompass the existence of massive battlefields comprised of hundreds of players. Let me be more clear to you and use short sentences: Large fleet engagements are an emergent behavior based on game mechanics. CCP encourages the existence of these large fleets through said game mechanics. (which they control) Lag is cause by the underlying server architecture's inability to handle large fleets. Any good FC knows there is a time to engage and a time to not engage; however your attempts to make what I posted partisan and political are feeble and a failure good sir.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.	Posted - 2008.09.02 15:37:00 - [513] Originally by: Praetor Novak Originally by: Commander Solo Edited by: Commander Solo on 02/09/2008 14:50:16 Its only not fun if you are loosing. Did you ever stop and think that the players are responsible for lag? The unwillingness to engage with even or comprable numbers creates these situations not CCP. Its human nature, not bad design choices. massive !=fun Wow! You are truly impressive with your trite little comments. Did you ever stop and think about root cause analysis? CCP has engineered EVE to encompass the existence of massive battlefields comprised of hundreds of players. Let me be more clear to you and use short sentences: Large fleet engagements are an emergent behavior based on game mechanics. CCP encourages the existence of these large fleets through said game mechanics. (which they control) Lag is cause by the underlying server architecture's inability to handle large fleets. Any good FC knows there is a time to engage and a time to not engage; however your attempts to make what I posted partisan and political are feeble and a failure good sir. And do you, know how they will magically eliminate all lag? The EVE cluster is already one of the most powerful computer servers in the world (Top 250 iirc?) so it's not like they haven't poured millions into it already. The only way I can see 300v300 fleet fights being non laggy is if they magically obtained millions more in funds to burn on new servers. You can only refine the code so far, before it becomes a simple issue of congestion. ATM, there is nothing that can be done, aside from petitioning a GM with a senior alliance leader, to inform them one downtime prior, that there will be a fleet battle at XYZ location, so they can reinforce the node adequately. Maybe we're recruiting, I don't know, spam eve-mails to Daniel Zorg, and go into a coma for a week.
Colonel Xaven Decadence. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.02 15:59:00 - [514] Originally by: Proxay ATM, there is nothing that can be done, aside from petitioning a GM with a senior alliance leader, to inform them one downtime prior, that there will be a fleet battle at XYZ location, so they can reinforce the node adequately. ...which means spies would be redundant. Good point. Proud member of RZR - Decadence.
Loike coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:06:00 - [515] Originally by: Colonel Xaven Originally by: Proxay ATM, there is nothing that can be done, aside from petitioning a GM with a senior alliance leader, to inform them one downtime prior, that there will be a fleet battle at XYZ location, so they can reinforce the node adequately. ...which means spies would be redundant. Good point. Not really, unless the GM managing it in fact reports it to the hostiles. What Proxay suggested only involved a senior alliance leader contacting a member of CCP in order to reinforce the node. In no way do members of any involved alliances get told unless said senior alliance leader tells them...which would be exactly the same as it currently is.
Duke North Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:25:00 - [516] Well the lagg thing is CCP they have not the server to manage 500peeps in all systems i can be in JIta with 800 peeps in there with no lag but if there is like 150 peeps in sv5 it take 32min to jump from Keberz thru HED-GP then another 30min to jump in to SV5 from HED-GP i made a petiont to ccp about it and thay answered the same macro answer as all of em do all the have petioned stuff now what i mean. CCP should actuall refund peeps insteed from there monthly bill due to the fact the game dont manage to play an all systems with more then 150 peeps in it Regards Performing the ancient and noble art of killing eachothers.
hybridundertaker Amarr coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:31:00 - [517] b e s t n e r d r a g e e v e r EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER
Homo Faber	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:31:00 - [518] Originally by: Plague Black 3 years of BOB trying to sweep the truth under the rug and 3 years of constant failure to do so. BOB got caught cheating multiple times, denies all accusations despite overwhelming evidence, admited even by CCP staff, and they have the nerv to call themselves skilled. Each time someone brings up cheating to table entire BOB high command gets all fired up, alts are included to water down threads, fill them with sensless cr4p (Tri is doing this for you lately, there is not a single intelligent word coming from their mouth anywy) until threads are so ruined that a forum moderator must lock them. Give up bobits, you will always bear the mark of shame, cheaters cought red-handed bending and breaking rules of the game we all like. No matter how hard you try there will always be thousand of pilots hating your guts for what you really are, never forgetting what you did. Get used to people always brining the truth to the table, with zeal you will not be able to compehend. Once a great man said that all it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing (was it Sir Edmund Burke or was it derived from Russian literature it does not really matter). Luckily for EVE there will alway be good men opposing BOB and what they represent. You are s****of eve, 1337 only in how you break rules of the game to spoil it for everyone else, failing at equal conditions pvp whenever you are deprived of your metagaming toys. You will fail, even if it takes another 3 years to take you down you future is sealed. And once that happens you will only be remembered for dirt you brought to game, where everyone will thank God for not having you in the game any more. All ex members of BOB will bear a mark of shame in their corp and alliance history having hard time to explain why they joined you in the first place, or lying that this is a character they bought from someone else. And soon this thread will be locked, forgotten by majority of EVE population but the goal to bring you down will stay alive until your miserable existance ends. You should have taken the snake. I don't think anything needs to be added, but I want to emphasize on how lol it is how whenever someone mentions bob's past you get an instant flood of nonsense posts from bob and pets to make sure no one notices. It's so pathetic it cracks me up.
SnoopDizzle	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:38:00 - [519] Edited by: SnoopDizzle on 02/09/2008 16:39:48 Originally by: Luthien Firefoot I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. I have to comment on this I have been on both sides of the fence and nothing so far i have seen has led to belive that there is any cheating going on mate. The reason there is a lot of lagg while your cyno jammer is being shot is because of how eve works..... Each ship has x number of guns or launchers and when a sudden attack is launched against a target the load on the server goes up massively. It actually effects bobs fleets as well and has stopped people from getting on the kill mails of titans and motherships :(. It would be far better if you posted a contructive comment to ccp to maybe get them to look into the number of interactions a second that occur during pvp... perhaphs they should make all ships like marauders with less guns / launchers and more damage..... there would need to be balancing with cap / and ammo but its not impossible.
aak88 Caldari CORE Elements Tread Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:39:00 - [520] Originally by: Duke North Well the lagg thing is CCP they have not the server to manage 500peeps in all systems i can be in JIta with 800 peeps in there with no lag but if there is like 150 peeps in sv5 it take 32min to jump from Keberz thru HED-GP then another 30min to jump in to SV5 from HED-GP i made a petiont to ccp about it and thay answered the same macro answer as all of em do all the have petioned stuff now what i mean. CCP should actuall refund peeps insteed from there monthly bill due to the fact the game dont manage to play an all systems with more then 150 peeps in it Regards Been there. Confirming this post.

Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.09.02 16:47:00 - [521] You all need to shut the hell up and stop posting. That includes me. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Rumpelstilski Caldari The Blackguard Wolves Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:07:00 - [522] One idea to eliminate lag is to write the server side code in C instead of Python. Python was created to simplify simple scripting tasks, it was never intended for large projects that demand a lot of optimization options and I'm frankly amazed that CCP has Eve working on it - no wonder they need state of the art hardware to support 300 people making simple trade orders. For comparison many of your computers calculate 1,920,000 pixel colors 15-80 times each second at a 1600x1200 resolution and the Jita server can't handle 700 people clicking every couple of seconds, it just doesn't make sense.
Rusty 123	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:10:00 - [523] Originally by: Karbowiak I will admit, the lag in TVN tonight was horrible - and it all came around the time BoB started the attack on PURE or who ever it is.. However, directly blaming BoB for the lag, or saying they hacked or got some insider at CCP to "limit" the server. Thats a stretch I mean, which sane person would cause grief for its company, risk ones job and at the same time - "destroy" a virtual game for alot of people ? So mr. Luthien, no - BoB did maybe lag out the node their system used - the rest of the lag might have been caused by the fact the whole north is bundled up in blobs atm. But yeah, good troll tho lol u say that but they spawned bpos once!!!!
Greckor Monmouth THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:12:00 - [524] Originally by: Rusty 123 Originally by: Karbowiak I will admit, the lag in TVN tonight was horrible - and it all came around the time BoB started the attack on PURE or who ever it is.. However, directly blaming BoB for the lag, or saying they hacked or got some insider at CCP to "limit" the server. Thats a stretch I mean, which sane person would cause grief for its company, risk ones job and at the same time - "destroy" a virtual game for alot of people ? So mr. Luthien, no - BoB did maybe lag out the node their system used - the rest of the lag might have been caused by the fact the whole north is bundled up in blobs atm. But yeah, good troll tho lol u say that but they spawned bpos once!!!! u say that, because it is your only hope...yet nobody is coming to save you
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:14:00 - [525] Wow, big thread, I better get in on it. I think the point of the OP is that current game mechanics give the advantage to the aggressor. If you are a defender, its death for you because you cannot bring your forces to bear. In that case, my advice is to attack. You heard this here first. If the NC falls, all of 0.0 will get nerfed, and it might get nerfed anyway. Why? Because there will only be two and a half power blocks left, and they cooperate when it comes to propping up the price of 0.0 resources like dysprosium. I don't think CCP would care for more than half the economy of the game to be run by maybe 5-10 people, depending on who you think is important. Frankly, 0.0 needs to be broken up. The current situation pushes everyone into NPC space. Take a trip through Syndicate or other such regions if you don't believe me, and then fly through the space of one of the major power blocks. The space of most big powers is empty most of the time. The NPC regions are crammed so full you can't even think about ratting, with a roving gang every 15 minutes it seems on bad days. And even NPC space is being claimed by big powers now, so there is nowhere to go. I think factional warfare has propped up the situation for a little while, but it is becoming repetitive for people, and they are going back to their alliances, except there is nowhere for them to go. So they are quitting EvE. But really who cares. Can I have your stuff? I am waiting for ambulation anyway. I want to be a tailor I think, and maybe run a bar. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Akelorian Caldari The first genesis Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:17:00 - [526] Originally by: Luthien Firefoot Eve online is a great game, thats a fact and if you're reading this then you probably agree. I been playing this game for four years, more than most and not as long as quite a few. I am gonna get a load of hassle for posting this, but I don't give a fk, for those of you that know me, you know why, for those that don't, well you can make you own mind up. Don't bother to flame my alliance, it's nothing to do with them, I fly with them because, like a lot of you, it's good to log on and speak to ppl that you are familiar with. Don't bother to insult me as a carebear or a miner, I am a pvper and I am always on the front line, before you shout me down, while I do not claim to be the best or even good at what I do, check your killboard, it's a descent chance that I have killed more of you than you have killed me. So, what's my point then ? I am heart sick at being cheated out of my chance to pvp. I am sick of the tactics used over the past four years by band of brothers. From 4 years ago, when it was just the naive COD, who allowed you to 'blue' a corp that was obviously giving you intel, to more modern times, where you have gained the ability and the lowness to infiltrate even ccp and destroy my game that I pay for. In what I can only decribe as another 'hax' tonight, BOB somehow managed to so limit a portion of the eve server, that 'less' than 150 pilots were unable to travel 3 jumps in 17 minutes and 48 seconds, into a destination system that head less than 200. This lag miraculously cleared within 30 seconds of them taking down the PURE cynojammer. I've seen it too many times, I suppose that my little voice is not important enought to register an article iin the NY times and I don't have a friend at ccp, so I will continue to do what I can to stop this obvious exploitation, by x'ing up and keeping fighting. I'm fighting for an ideal, against a foe that will stop at nothing to win, even when winning becomes moot, because they have all the cards. Cheats never prosper, but they do unfortunately. Posting with a main. Luth. want a tissue?

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.09.02 17:24:00 - [527] Locked. Think this thread has reached its constructive end. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang



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