Think getting ship progression to make logical sense is higher on the list than adding more stuff to make it more complicated.

Right, that makes sense. But such big change also seems more appropriate for a real expansion than sneaked into a small patch, but maybe that is why it is called "Escalation for Inferno".

Edit: Just found out that I need to burn a remap on my alt for this to make it before April 24.

[quote=Lexmana] racial battlecruiser and racial destroyer coming in on April 24th? If so I might still do it but it's going to be very tight.

For one of my chars a (painful) bonus remap would make it for Inferno, but if its the precursor... i can scrap it because i can't get to BC V (and even 2x cruiser III) in time for April 22nd. So i won't do that remap unless i know its actually worth it. Of course if i find out in 2-3 weeks it would have been worth it, but didn't ... also painful.

Truth be told, "taking your chances" doesn't cut it for all of us. The trade-offs are just painful if things don't go as assumed.

Ive got 43 mill sp. after the ship line change ill have at least 10 mill waisted skill points that i didnt need to train for what i fly.

I am not happy.

Ive got 43 mill sp. after the ship line change ill have at least 10 mill waisted skill points that i didnt need to train for what i fly.

I am not happy.

We need to have a very solid skill reimbursement plan set in stone. Most likely, we would take care of the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skill refund in one move to be done with it and avoid the same inconvenience twice for our playerbase.

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If you have Destroyer 5 and BC 5 now, will you have all the destroyer/BC racials to 5 after the change? I can't imagine people want to do extra training just to re-achieve a level they're already at.

This question has already been answered many times, please refer to the dev blog comments.

they should 10% refund the sp... then let us choose if we wanted all BC skill points ourselfs. Or even if we want to stop flying BCs altogether. How much could that really hurt the game in the long run, come on.

There are two conditions needed before we split the Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill in four:

• We need to overhaul destroyer and battlecruiser ships themselves. Cutting your ability to fly those ships by four without taking care of the underpowered hulls is a no go, because that would mean new players going for one racial line would have a hard time having valid options in these two classes.


• We need to have a very solid skill reimbursement plan set in stone. Most likely, we would take care of the Destroyer and Battlecruiser skill refund in one move to be done with it and avoid the same inconvenience twice for our playerbase.

So no, to my knowledge skill changes are not coming in April; what we are most likely going to start with is to have a look at the tech 1 frigates and cruisers, then move up as time passes, but nothing is fixed yet.

We will do our best to let you know in advance if the skill changes are due for a specific release.

So when are we expecting the new destroyers?

Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic

This question has already been answered many times, please refer to the dev blog comments.

No. It really hasn't. CCP has referred variously to 'skill reimbursement' and 'you will be able to fly what you can fly now', those two things are not necessarily (and unlikely to be) synonymous.

I get it, you don't really know what to do with the SP situation but are trying to do something that will be fair, that's fine but that's not what you (or anyone else) as said.

No. It really hasn't. CCP has referred variously to 'skill reimbursement' and 'you will be able to fly what you can fly now', those two things are not necessarily (and unlikely to be) synonymous.

I get it, you don't really know what to do with the SP situation but are trying to do something that will be fair, that's fine but that's not what you (or anyone else) as said.

# Q: can we opt out for skills we don't want during the reimbursement process?

A: well, again, it depends on how it is done. We may just bluntly give all four variants at V if you had battlecruiser V for example, or maybe require that you also add the relevant Cruiser skill trained at level 3 to be eligible. On the latter case, just don't train the cruiser 3 skill, and you should not receive the new racial battlecruiser at 5. Not sure why one would do that however, it's like skipping free candy or cake while visiting your grandma.

Example:
# If we go for option 1: you will get Amarr, Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar Battlecruiser skills at 5 if you previously had the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5.
# If we go for option 2: you will get Amarr Battlecruiser skill at 5 only if you previously fulfilled all conditions to fly Amarr Battlecruisers, which means having the generic Battlecruiser skill at 5, PLUS the Amarr Cruiser at 3.

To remind it again, there are other options to consider, but no matter which one which choose, you won't lose anything out of the skill reimbursement plan.

I pity the life of a developer, when you have to deal with people who won't read stuff that was hot news two weeks ago, then expect you to answer the same question for the thousandth time because today for some reason the issue is of immense interest to them.

Merci bien pour votre patience infinie.

Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic

This question has already been answered many times, please refer to the dev blog comments.

LOL @ this thread! Nobody is reading the answers the dev linked!

Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic

This question has already been answered many times, please refer to the dev blog comments.