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Sqalevon
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:15:00 -
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Linkage
Enjoy
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jana Clant on 03/09/2008 16:27:39
Never thought he'd actually do it.
EDIT: Hahaha, that was pretty much what I was expecting. Though for a minute there I was thinking the UI was going to escape the bashing, but Yahtzee still delivered.
9 out of 10 blueprints prefer New Eden Research!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:24:00 -
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I find it hard to completely disagree with him 
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Bish Ounen
Gallente
Omni-Core Freedom Fighters
Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:24:00 -
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Wow.
He's an ass.
I won't be watching any more of his dreck.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:25:00 -
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His only mistake was "staying away from player-run corporations".
Of course he hated it 
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kor anon
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:27:00 -
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Speaks way too fast. Lacks patience to get into game. To sum up he is a moron
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Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:28:00 -
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I was awaiting the newest zero punctuation today, but it didn't show up will late.
Imagine my surprise when i see it to be EVE, as i had previously mentioned that it might be cool for him to review the game.
I'm not entirely surprised with his view as it's pretty similar to that of my friends who've only played the trial and thought "WAH?! I can't powergrind my way through it playing 12 hours a day and become uber pwnzor of the universe?!?!"
Although i do like his "You must be this cool to use this stuff" analogy.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: P''uck on 03/09/2008 16:33:26
He was pretty accurate in pointing out the weak spots. But obviously he has no clue about eve AND he sucks at it.
You can tell, because if he knew the game he could have bashed it MUCH better. (edit: and thus providing more and better funsies)
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:34:00 -
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Bwahahahahah.
"...a small whiny city with personal hygiene problems..."
Oh god my ribs.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:41:00 -
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I just got an account there a few days ago and was tempted into asking for him to do EVE, but I didnt dare. I was hoping he would do it one day, now he has. HUZZAH!
Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:47:00 -
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I've played Eve for five years. I love the game... it's pretty much become part of my life in a sense.
I feel kind of strange that I can't disagree with what he's saying, and he does have a point when he says that Eve is no different from most other MMOs apart from the fact it's hosted on one shard.
Sadly he is right, Eve is becoming more and more "mainstream" every day, purely because any company in it's right mind will follow a good business model over pure player enjoyment.
I do however feel the review was a bit off in the case of content. If he's not going to join a corporation, and spend two weeks mission running and mining solo in empire, he's only seeing around 1% of what the game has to offer. This doesn't leave me surprised that he went away with a negative experience.
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Jana Clant
New Dawn Corp
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:47:00 -
[12]
 Originally by: Bish Ounen
Wow.
He's an ass.
I won't be watching any more of his dreck.
Heh, if you've watched his videos previously you'll know his reviews aren't meant to be taken seriously, they're mainly for entertainment. If you can't laugh at the flaws he pointed out, then you really shouldn't be watching his reviews.
9 out of 10 blueprints prefer New Eden Research!
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Sugarush
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:47:00 -
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I like the backwards flying and shooting Brutix and Raven.
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Sqalevon
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I've played Eve for five years. I love the game... it's pretty much become part of my life in a sense.
I feel kind of strange that I can't disagree with what he's saying, and he does have a point when he says that Eve is no different from most other MMOs apart from the fact it's hosted on one shard.
Sadly he is right, Eve is becoming more and more "mainstream" every day, purely because any company in it's right mind will follow a good business model over pure player enjoyment.
I do however feel the review was a bit off in the case of content. If he's not going to join a corporation, and spend two weeks mission running and mining solo in empire, he's only seeing around 1% of what the game has to offer. This doesn't leave me surprised that he went away with a negative experience.
Can't agree more.
He didn't talk about PVP, wich is the most important part of EVE imho.
Also he didn't talk about the things that a unsharded server brings to a community.
And I believe the EVE background story one of its big plusses.
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.03 16:57:00 -
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He's not wrong, but the game requires enormous amounts of patients and since the majority of his reviews are of faster paced games its not odd to understand why he feels this way.
The shear sense of loss and gain in a game shadows no other, when uknow what ur doing pvp is greatly enjoyable. That said il assume he'd prolly think im trying to justify the shear volume of time i put into the game. Awell, he is dead on though. Eve is shit in the begining.
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:00:00 -
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Jennifer Ashton
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:09:00 -
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I think it is the most accurate description of Eve I've ever seen.
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fairimear
Gallente
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:10:00 -
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Unfortunately hits the mark with some things.
Good job he didn't play long enough to experience being ecm cycle jammed.
I imagine the line would be
"I Mean F**K even Wow does not drop to the abyss of bad game mechanics as being beaten on well you sit there waiting for a inferior tosser in a pathetic ship scratch ur hull away with a tea spoon well waiting for 9 of his friends in equally small and pathetic ships to arrive and join in with tea spooning you to death"
CCp should be concerned about this review though.
I and many many many many of my friends have avoided games because of a zero punctuation episode about it.
They don't so much as give a accurate account of the game. But if you watch 1 and then play the game. the flaws he has pointed out are all of a sudden very obvious and much more annoying than they would have been.
Other wise a very funny review
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Zamzoph
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:15:00 -
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As soon as I saw that just now, I came over here to see if the EVE forum defensive formations were building up yet, and it looks like I was right to assume that people are already denouncing Yahtzee.
Oh, and he did talk about PVP in his summary of combat.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:20:00 -
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It's ZP.
He doesn't like anything.
If you're offended or worried you're taking things altogether too seriously.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
He doesn't like anything.
Except Dizzy, Prince of Persia and Painkiller
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Cryxx
Minmatar
Blindsight Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:25:00 -
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wow, okay I didnt even think people on this forum would react like this, seriously, watch the others of his reviews, they're more or less all like this, thats the gimmick of it and thats why most people watch it, to listen to an angry british guy degrading a game as much as possible...as he's said himself, hes a critic.
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: SoftRevolution
He doesn't like anything.
Except Dizzy, Prince of Persia and Painkiller
Yes. And TF2.
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fairimear
Gallente
S.A.S
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:31:00 -
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lol missed the comment on middle management positions!
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Trader's Academy
Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jennifer Ashton
I think it is the most accurate description of Eve I've ever seen.
I had to agree a fair bit.
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Jen Ku
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Posted - 2008.09.03 17:53:00 -
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I agree with him entirely.
Only thing is if this was my first job I would be freaking rich beyond any ones dreams infact I could buy the world and just blow it up for the hell of it.
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:09:00 -
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As Zero Punctuation is the new voice of Virgin Media adverts on UK tele he has no right to criticise anything. Hes 'a sell out' wazzock.
The trouble is, when you sell out like he has, your opinion no longer carries any true worth. So now we know he can bought, who is to say that he cannot be bought by, say EA Games etc?
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Zamzoph
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:21:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
As Zero Punctuation is the new voice of Virgin Media adverts on UK tele he has no right to criticise anything. Hes 'a sell out' wazzock.
The trouble is, when you sell out like he has, your opinion no longer carries any true worth. So now we know he can bought, who is to say that he cannot be bought by, say EA Games etc?
So what clued you in on Yahtzee "selling out"? Was it when he got that more-professional introduction to his review show, or was it way back when he was first hired by the Escapist and boarded their ship made of money, the S.S. Sellout?
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Maitsu
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Maitsu on 03/09/2008 18:26:02
Yahtzee is a member of somethingawful (a goon) thats probably why he's so terrible at this game.
The recruitment thread he's referring to on game forums is the one at SA where goons whine about eve.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:27:00 -
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LOL, it makes me laugh how usually the guy is seen as the best thing since sliced bread, telling it exactly like it is, socking it to the man. Until he criticises Eve and then he's a total tosser!
... but yeah, Bill Hicks had the take on advertising. The second you sell out your artistic integrity for advertising, you lose all credibility.
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Terail Zoqial
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:30:00 -
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Wow, that was rather tame and derived, hell, he missed out on all the blatantly easy rips at the community through the forums and instead went for the clichTd spotty nerd angle.
His rips at the game itself were pretty pants too, damn, if he'd only learnt more to give eve an awesome thrashing 
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Lasakywa
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:37:00 -
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"I mean, What 'de **** is Tactical Logistics Reconfiguration " ???
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Placid Reborn
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
As Zero Punctuation is the new voice of Virgin Media adverts on UK tele he has no right to criticise anything. Hes 'a sell out' wazzock.
The trouble is, when you sell out like he has, your opinion no longer carries any true worth. So now we know he can bought, who is to say that he cannot be bought by, say EA Games etc?
Virgin Media doesn't make or publish video games (sells games in their store but you didn't say if he was plugging them). So what about taking a job doing voiceovers for them is "selling out"?
Eve review as amusing, and its fair to say that a new player facing Eve often does have the same experience, but going it alone is definately "doing it wrong". That's a failing of his whenever he has to deal with games in a genre he doesn't like or understand, knows he's not going to "get it", and rips into it anyway. Even then there's usualy some poignent validity behind all the ranting and raving.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.03 18:41:00 -
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The Trial period for this game is terrible and lets you experience practically nothing of EVE. I don't really blame him for that review.
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Zamzoph
So what clued you in on Yahtzee "selling out"? Was it when he got that more-professional introduction to his review show, or was it way back when he was first hired by the Escapist and boarded their ship made of money, the S.S. Sellout?
Neither of those apply, meaning you dont understand the concept of 'selling out'. He takes a job with The Escapist, fine. He claims to give honest, realistic reviews, fine. He claims to be the truth in a world of lies .. fine.
However, the second he starts to promote something like Virgin where the words are written for him he loses that integrity. Virgin hired him because he is a voice that many many game players and internet users will recognise, especially the youth generation. A sort of 'look he likes us, you will too, give us ya money'. But again, those words are written for him. Its not him speaking, but his bank balance.
He's just proven he CAN be bought if the price is right. Therefore any opinion that he previously held is cast into doubt. His honesty has dissapeared to be replaced by bucks.
THAT was my point about Zero.
I have no problem with hin reviewing Eve ... especially now I know that he hasnt got a clue about the game and obviously hes very very wrong to criticise it ... thats my job as I pay to play it. 
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Zamzoph
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:38:00 -
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Alright, annoing, I just watched this commercial you were referring to, and I must say: Are you even sure that's HIM? I only found one person on one forum trying to make this connection, and everyone else was trying to assure him that it's only a sound-a-like. I, for one, agree with that. Sure the voice in the commercial kinda sounds like Yahtzee, but it doesn't sound exactly like Yahtzee. The voice is definitely deeper.
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: annoing on 03/09/2008 19:45:28
Actually, yes I am.
But there again, thats only MY opinion ..
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zamzoph
Alright, annoing, I just watched this commercial you were referring to
link ?
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Zamzoph
Tides of Silence
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Posted - 2008.09.03 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zamzoph on 03/09/2008 20:02:42
Originally by: Akita T
link ?
link
And I'm glad to see you removed your "evidence", annoing, but having a grudge against Yahtzee for the reason you claim while not even being absolutely sure it's him is just rather silly.
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Orrelious
Minmatar
The Umbrella Union Fleet
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:00:00 -
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He seemed to rag on the players a bit too much for someone who refused to interact with anyone else or join a corp. Funny, though.
The comercial people are referring to is likely this and the guy in it sounds like this guy.
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Benco97
Gallente
The Star League
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:31:00 -
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Edited by: Benco97 on 03/09/2008 20:35:45
Funny video but when you open it by saying "I know nothing of any of this stuff and can't be bothered to find out about it" (Or words to that effect) you really have to question just what the point of doing the video in the first place was.
I've never been a fan of his to be honest because I don't actually find him funny but this review really is no worse than any others and you can read a lot into what he DIDN'T talk about, no mention of the player run economy or PvP or extremely detailed crafting system (Compared to most other games at least) or the fact that when things happen they STAY happened. Speaks volumes about those things really if he couldn't say anything bad about them.
Edit- Also, I'd just like to point out that almost ANYTHING read in that sort of monotone voice at that speed will sound incredibly intelligent and right to most people so that's a bit of a trick really. Imagine if you read all of what he said on a forum for example and you'd see what I mean.
Originally by: P'uck
You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Out of Order
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:33:00 -
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The moment he declared he wouldn't be joining a player corp is the moment he was doomed. Especially not a PVP one.
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Ren Surkova
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Wow.
He's an ass.
I won't be watching any more of his dreck.
you don't like anything good do you?
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kessah
Suicidal Tendencies Ltd
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
LOL, it makes me laugh how usually the guy is seen as the best thing since sliced bread, telling it exactly like it is, socking it to the man. Until he criticises Eve and then he's a total tosser!
... but yeah, Bill Hicks had the take on advertising. The second you sell out your artistic integrity for advertising, you lose all credibility.
To be fair the majority have taken to his review quite favourably, so really you point doesnt hold up to well.
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Tao Han
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tao Han on 03/09/2008 20:55:53
Originally by: Ren Surkova
Originally by: Bish Ounen
Wow.
He's an ass.
I won't be watching any more of his dreck.
you don't like anything good do you?
Well, he was funny for a couple of episodes then it just got repetitive. But thats probably just me.
Quote:
Yahtzee is a member of somethingawful (a goon) thats probably why he's so terrible at this game.
The recruitment thread he's referring to on game forums is the one at SA where goons whine about eve.
And that explains why.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.03 20:58:00 -
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I DO have a shoe on my head.
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Pwett
CEO, Founder, & Executor
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 03/09/2008 19:50:16
Originally by: Zamzoph
Alright, annoing, I just watched this commercial you were referring to
link ?
Originally by: annoing
Well, to see what you think of the voice angle, its deepness etc, watch this video on The Escapist.
Can't be actually claiming it's Yahtzee doing the voiceover/storytelling in that video, can you ?
You know, The Escapist has more than just ONE guy...
Actually, I removed the link because I knew i had got it wrong ....
However, following the link for the commcercial, I think its reasonable to claim it is him as, while the voice lacks its usual manic edge, the style is exactly the same, zero punctuation... thats why hes got that tag isnt it? I dont think its the guy from Green Wing cos the style is so different to his usual style which is laid back and laconic.
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Ren Surkova
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Han
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Well, he was funny for a couple of episodes then it just got repetitive. But thats probably just me.
sure, its hard to laugh at the same joke week in, week out, but it can't be healthy when someone reacts like that after a reviewer says he doesn't care for the mmo they play. it's nearly as funny as when people claim that the feature 'sold out' as if it used to be some counter-culture gonzo journalism shit
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Alevi
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.03 21:55:00 -
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"Nerds who are to nerds what nerds are to normal people."
Ehehehe.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:08:00 -
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:)
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Delvardious Kaesos
Caldari
Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:09:00 -
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Bah. Yahtzee's reviews aren't mean to be taken seriously. He does and is pay for them to be funny. but a 2 week trial isn't even remotely close to the problems eve has. And all he does is take the cliched nerd approach to almost any game he reviews, and it's started to become annoying.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:24:00 -
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Yeah, I usually watch his stuff and this one I dont entirely agree with... Heres why.
He usually shows games from the prespective of a"noob"or"casual gamer", both of which should never EVER review eve because you dont see enough of the game, especially because he sat in an npc corp all day and then decided to get on some of the less preferable parts of these forums.
The game is becoming more mainstream but there are still aspects about the game that make it totally different then games such as wow, he just didnt see them.
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Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:51:00 -
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Most accurate eve review I've seen. Maybe some of the higher ups that influence the direction of the game will take notice (since they obviously don't play).
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:51:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Zamzoph
Edited by: Zamzoph on 03/09/2008 20:02:42
Originally by: Akita T
link ?
link
The tones and intonations definitely make me think that's him.
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Valan
The Fated
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:52:00 -
[55]
Originally by: fairimear
CCp should be concerned about this review though.
I and many many many many of my friends have avoided games because of a zero punctuation episode about it.
They don't so much as give a accurate account of the game. But if you watch 1 and then play the game. the flaws he has pointed out are all of a sudden very obvious and much more annoying than they would have been.
It was funny its like an EVE players rant on a bad day. But if your mates listen to that and act upon it then to be honest we're better off without them.
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chingchang ach
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:56:00 -
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Anybody else notice that he had the ships backwards in his demonstration of the two ships shooting at each other?
Made me lol heartily.
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Xen Gin
Universal Mining Inc
Forged Dominion
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Posted - 2008.09.03 22:58:00 -
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Sufficed to say this game is not for the instant gratification lot, who need to powerlevel their way to "uber-pwnage" in 7days or fewer!
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:31:00 -
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look what ship he chose for most of his models?
DOMINIX BABY!
However:
1. He didn't review the number one thing that draws so many people to the game, THE PVP, and
2. He spent his time in the NPC corps with all the douchehats.
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Gamer4liff
Caldari
Metalworks
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2008.09.03 23:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Maitsu
Edited by: Maitsu on 03/09/2008 18:26:02
Yahtzee is a member of somethingawful (a goon) thats probably why he's so terrible at this game.
The recruitment thread he's referring to on game forums is the one at SA where goons whine about eve.
He's not really that much of a goon, he's more or less a race traitor, I haven't seen him post in months. Shame, he used to post in YCS'.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 04/09/2008 00:01:45
If you ask me his review is pefect - the only reason any of you disagree is the fact you have spent far mroe then 14days playing EVE! I my self started doin 15hr days when not working to play EVE grind a little isk buy ships & what not.
3yrs later many billions richer with + SP over two / 3 accounts, I do look back & think wow how right he is about EVE.
Looking back tho I had nothing else that replaced or gave me the same feeling that eve has given me so I would not change it met many friends along the way & such sadly I am now burned out & onto SPORE I shall go! It has been fun :) perhaps Il be back when EVE turns into a RTS or sumthing different then the slow boring lag fest it is now.
p.s Its the gave everything twice as much health made combat so much slower that has killed off eve. How I miss the fun you could have with a AF in low sec.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: SoftRevolution
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: SoftRevolution
He doesn't like anything.
Except Dizzy, Prince of Persia and Painkiller
Yes. And TF2.
And Portal, and Psychonauts
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Aeo IV
Amarr
Xomic OmniCorporation
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:48:00 -
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I'd like to see him try to come up with a game.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 00:59:00 -
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He has a made a game.
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Spaztick
Canadian Imperial Armaments
EVESpace
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Posted - 2008.09.04 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Spaztick on 04/09/2008 01:29:11
You know I was thinking yesterday that with all the EVE advertisement on the escapist website, Yahtzee was bound to eventually make a review on it.
Edit: And yes he has in fact made several games, all of which are kick ass adventure games (except for Art of Theft, which is a platformer). They all tie into one another, and I do recommend them. Donate if you feel like it, I think they're worth it.
But seriously, more people should have some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 05:21:00 -
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He tells it as it is, though he ought to have joined a snigwaffe or something if he wanted to enjoy it. EVE is boring apart from pvp, the pve side is awful and would need a complete overhaul to be anything near fun.
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Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.04 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: pwnedgato
Edited by: pwnedgato on 04/09/2008 01:14:31
He has made a game.
Yup, he made all 25 Army Men games.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 06:31:00 -
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not a bad review. shallow, but thats yahzee for ya.
still quite entertaining :)
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Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.09.04 07:16:00 -
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i like his reviews mostly and the one about eve is fairly accurate when it comes to the newbie experience in npc corps..
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Posted - 2008.09.04 07:20:00 -
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that was actually rather funny. think he might of found it nicer if he got out of NPC corps.
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Plim
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Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.04 07:38:00 -
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That was quite funny. But really he just sounds like a ****ing noob when he's talking about pvp lacking tactics and so on. EVE online pvp is probably one of the deepest pvp systems in in an mmo game. It's also one of the most exhilarating, because unlike WOW clones, you actually lose things of worth.
Yes EVE pvp probably does seem pretty simplistic to those who don't actually understand it.
His final comment about EVE being like a second job you have to pay for, seems to describe the direction of the game has been going in since 2004 though.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: Plim
That was quite funny. But really he just sounds like a ****ing noob when he's talking about pvp lacking tactics and so on. EVE online pvp is probably one of the deepest pvp systems in in an mmo game. It's also one of the most exhilarating, because unlike WOW clones, you actually lose things of worth.
He never tried pvp, he just died to ganks a few times and never got out of his npc corp.
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Gallente
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.09.04 09:17:00 -
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It's not odd that he thought PvP was shallow if he only spent 2 weeks playing. He wouldn't have had the skills for e-war modules, MWDs, decent tanking modules, or even a ship that was capable of doing anything remotely interesting.
That said, he makes valid points. He's telling us his perception of the game from the perspective of a noob. And yes, Eve is actually a fairly terrible game if you're a noob, and it puts off a lot of people from playing.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 04/09/2008 09:41:44
was very funny, and I can see where a lot of his observations were coming from (much of eve must seem WTF to people who've played a lot of the modern MMOs...my experience went from Ultima Online to EVE so it wasn't much of a transition)
However...he points out himself that he was only looking into playing it for a short time period, and presumably did so at a casual level...whether it's a flaw or an advantage is debateable, but from my experience you can't get much out of eve that way, or at least not initially.
edit: his voice sounded very similar to me to the guy who does the 'round up of the weeks silly videos' on friday on the bbc website (i've forgotten what it's called) - I checked and it wasn't the same guy. so it's possible he just has a voice-that's-similar-to-other-people re: the virgin adds
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.04 10:03:00 -
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Not his best review, focused too much on the generic 'spotty nerd' approach. He has done better. Still quite funny with some excellent lines though.
He did miss the point of almost every aspect he criticised (the criticism of the skill system, for instance, is a classic from people who haven't actually thought about it). But I stopped listening to it as a review and took it as a funny noob rant from the point where he said he avoided player corporations anyway. Still, to have even that perspective on EVE done Zero Punctuation style is awesome.
I'd love it if he learned to play the game and did another review from the perspective of someone who knows what they're doing.
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Gallente
Oursulaert Technology Institute
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Posted - 2008.09.04 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Evanade
Originally by: Plim
That was quite funny. But really he just sounds like a ****ing noob when he's talking about pvp lacking tactics and so on. EVE online pvp is probably one of the deepest pvp systems in in an mmo game. It's also one of the most exhilarating, because unlike WOW clones, you actually lose things of worth.
He never tried pvp, he just died to ganks a few times and never got out of his npc corp.
That would explain it 
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.04 12:10:00 -
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The second I heard "keeping away from player corporations" I braced myself for a bad reveiw. Everyone I know who played Eve and got bored didn't join player corporations, I think they should just dump people in player corps from the start! |
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Posted - 2008.09.04 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: SoftRevolution on 04/09/2008 12:51:56
I think his review was a pretty fair portrayal
It's not Yahtzee's fault if the new player experience is about as appetising as shit sammiches.
I don't know why people are saying Player Corporations are the answer to everything.
While I'm sure some of them massively enhance your experience as a new player that certainly isn't a guaranteed outcome. In some of them he'd be worse off than in a decent NPC corp.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:28:00 -
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I feel quite sorry for him tbh. After watching several of his other reviews it appears he's a "gamer" who has never enjoyed a single game he's ever played. Time to take up bridge or something old boy |
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Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.04 14:45:00 -
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Yahtzee at it again.
Lets see what he has to say about Spore...
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Mrsticks
Minmatar
RNCGM Inc.
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Posted - 2008.09.04 15:58:00 -
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Real Question is Will CCP keep avertising on ZP? I hope so. Id hate to think that they were that thinskinned.
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: fairimear
Unfortunately hits the mark with some things.
Good job he didn't play long enough to experience being ecm cycle jammed.
I imagine the line would be
"I Mean F**K even Wow does not drop to the abyss of bad game mechanics as being beaten on well you sit there waiting for a inferior tosser in a pathetic ship scratch ur hull away with a tea spoon well waiting for 9 of his friends in equally small and pathetic ships to arrive and join in with tea spooning you to death"
Rogue stunlock? :p
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Siorai Iontach
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Posted - 2008.09.04 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 04/09/2008 17:32:52
He doesn't get it!!!
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
He did miss the point of almost every aspect he criticised (the criticism of the skill system, for instance, is a classic from people who haven't actually thought about it).
I'd love it if he learned to play the game and did another review from the perspective of someone who knows what they're doing.
That is what I wanted to say but it got to wordy. Thanks C.
I think I need to find someone else to get my stuff from soon. I am starting to think I may be a Crumplecorn groupie 
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Aurora Security
Cosmic Anomalies
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Posted - 2008.09.05 06:19:00 -
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That pretty much explains what he did wrong. If you enjoy the non-PvP part of eve you fail hard.
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Gallente
Porandor
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Posted - 2008.09.05 08:32:00 -
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posted in general and also have dev's answer
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=862606
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State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.09.05 10:52:00 -
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I love all of the people who dislike him now because he bashed Eve. "He doesn't like my game so he's a moron!" Lol cry more. I think he nailed Eve for the short time he was given. Seriously, if Eve were as good as the brainwashed people here think it is then it would probably have a lot more players. But it doesn't and it's been around plenty long enough to have a WOW sized player base. I think thats partly because of shitty beginning to the game(IE: the first six months or so) and partly because of the absolute low quality of the average player. Honestly, 90% of people I have met in Eve are complete *******s. And another honest truth is that if I hadn't started so long ago I would probably quit as well. I didn't truly start having fun until about a year and a half in. and even that didn't last forever. I log in maybe once a week now. All of the people I personally know who used to play have quit and I don't enjoy the game like I used to. This is all subjective though, and I could be wrong. Terrible tradgedy.
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Papa Ina
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:13:00 -
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I agreed with pretty much all of it.
And to all of you who say "oh well he didn't join a corp"... Think about most of the corps that he'd have likely ended up with in Empire. Yeah, Eve got off lightly.
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Pete X
Minmatar
Novus Ordem Seclorum
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:27:00 -
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gotta love his shit
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.09.05 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
I am starting to think I may be a Crumplecorn groupie
You say it like it's a bad thing.
:)
I find it surprising how many EVE players agree with Yahtzee. I can understand people who played it for two weeks "doing it wrong", but people who have been playing it for months or years... while I am well aware many people play EVE under big misconceptions, it is still surprising to see.
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Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.05 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Papa Ina
I agreed with pretty much all of it.
And to all of you who say "oh well he didn't join a corp"... Think about most of the corps that he'd have likely ended up with in Empire. Yeah, Eve got off lightly.
It's obvious he didnt *play the game*. He probably just installed it and tarded around in space for a few hours imagining all the geeks with hygeine problems. His 'review' was a parody of himself.
The pure pwnage parody hit the nail on the head. EVE is far from perfect, but his review was a disgrace to the field of journalism.
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