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Vila eNorvic
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:40:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... Again, go back to school and learn some history. H****r gave up his plans to invade Britain long before America even thought about joining in.
And the Americans would have turned up even later than they did if they hadn't been given an almighty shove when the Japanese caught them with their pants down at Pearl Harbo(u)r despite British efforts to warn them. |
Miranda Bowie
The Paratwa Ka
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Posted - 2012.03.27 19:42:00 -
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adopt wrote:Miranda Bowie wrote:I love the colour gratuitous U's add to British spelling. I proumise froum nouw oun, I will honour your request four moure. ;)
You're adding "U" in completely pointless places, it doesn't make you look intelligible, it makes you seem parallel to the stereotypes we have of Americans; uneducated, incompetent morons. *whoosh*
Thank you, Captain Obvious! xD
Suggestion: Look up "parody". Also, look up the meaning of the "wink" emoticon, used at the end of my previous comment.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:22:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... Oh right i'm sure canada or south america could have pulled your asses out of that fire
If you want to go down that road: we'd be speaking german right now if the russkies didn't exist. shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Tekeran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 20:52:00 -
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adopt wrote:Mathias Hex wrote:I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... Oh right i'm sure canada or south america could have pulled your asses out of that fire That is the worst argument I have ever heard. America did barely anything on the European front, the soviets took most of the losses and did most of the damage. So do not ever bring up such a futile argument and wave it around as if you matter.
I agree that it's a poor argument but you are wrong in stating America barely did anything on the European front. America was largely responsible for the retaking of France among many other major achievements in the European front. Read up a little on US involvement in WW2. |
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:01:00 -
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Tekota wrote:Oh please.
The "Team America! F*** Yeah!" attitude is equally annoying as the "But we're the rightful masters of language you rebel colonial dogs" attitude.
In 50 years time you can have the same argument when both countries have finally realised that they're not the centre of the universe (or center of the universe if you so desire) and you can moan about south east asian "Panglish" spellings.
I expect the spelling to be used exactly as English is spelt in Iceland. And given that English is just one of many *secondary* languages spoken in Iceland, and given that CCP is made up of an international development team I fully expect some variation in how English is spelt in Iceland, and more so within CCP. I fully expect CCP teams in the UK, USA, and Iceland to all be using differing English spellings (hell, they have an office in Newcastle, whose official dialect stipulates "wot youse lookkin at?" to be uttered before glassing someone).
If something is created in the USA, be it art, film, novel, games, I would expect US spellings. If something is created in the UK, I expect UK spellings. If something is created by an international development team, in a country where English is a secondary language, across the span of multiple years, I expect a whole gamut of spellings to be used, all of which are perfectly understandable by anyone who has a decent command of any variation of English. If something is a game, who really ******* cares? Support showing T2 and faction frequency crystal damage in the info window! |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:05:00 -
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Tekeran wrote:adopt wrote:Mathias Hex wrote:I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... Oh right i'm sure canada or south america could have pulled your asses out of that fire That is the worst argument I have ever heard. America did barely anything on the European front, the soviets took most of the losses and did most of the damage. So do not ever bring up such a futile argument and wave it around as if you matter. I agree that it's a poor argument but you are wrong in stating America barely did anything on the European front. America was largely responsible for the retaking of France among many other major achievements in the European front. Read up a little on US involvement in WW2.
A lot of countries mainly teach their history more indepth, so don't be too surprised if someone from another country does not know much about your countries history. Plus they tend to teach history more from the country's viewpoint where it's being taught.
At least that was what it was like in the past, doubt it has changed much unless you do a more specialist course. |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:22:00 -
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You've got to have a pretty sad life to care about crap like this. |
Bibosikus
Inside out. The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:23:00 -
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Mathias Hex wrote:I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... Oh right i'm sure canada or south america could have pulled your asses out of that fire
Actually, if the US had had its way about 10 years before World War II, the whole of the UK would be using "color" and "armor"...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039453/How-America-planned-destroy-BRITAIN-1930-bombing-raids-chemical-weapons.html
Fact.
You sneaky bastards :D The box said "Requires Windows-á2000 or better", so I installed Linux. |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:25:00 -
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I blame the French. |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:25:00 -
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To the OP
dont blame the Americans they need to simplify everything including language
Remember that most Americans think that America won the second world war
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9/11 happened because Muslims hate their freedoms.
Dont argue with them just pitty them. See what happened to the CSM when they were exposed to European strength beer.
Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
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Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:31:00 -
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Plus 1 wrote:You've got to have a pretty sad life to care about crap like this.
I think yours must be sadder to post in a thread you have no interest in.
As for me I have quite an easy life, no stress, no worries, 99.9% of the time I don't even need to look at a watch, no alarm clock. Plus plenty of spare time on my hands to do as I please. |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:46:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:Plus 1 wrote:You've got to have a pretty sad life to care about crap like this. I think yours must be sadder to post in a thread you have no interest in. As for me I have quite an easy life, no stress, no worries, 99.9% of the time I don't even need to look at a watch, no alarm clock. Plus plenty of spare time on my hands to do as I please. I'm just trolling. I don't **** around with my u's. u's are srs business.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2012.03.27 21:50:00 -
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This thread has kinda gone off track....
Personally, American English can annoy me sometimes, how spell-checks automatically put z's in places of s's, and other crazyness. And the whole month-day-year makes NO-SENSE and is just confusing! Day-Month-Year is far more logical imo.
But the nature of language is that it develops differently in different locations. You only have to go to places within England itself to see that, anyone been to Liverpool, or Aberdeen? You get slangs of the English language developing all over the show! American-English is no different, they've been off by themselves for long enough to make whatever changes they like.
What i find the most annoying is that they call their version English. Your clicking on options in programs for English, most of the time its not the English you'd expect. What you get is American-English, which is like English, but alot more lazy. Americans like to steal alot of English things and suddenly claim them as American. Like Football for example. Stole that one to the degree you've renamed it soccer, at least within your own country. But... you don't even use your feet for American-Football. Your webster himself named his first dictionary "American Dictionary of the English Language"
But on the most part i agree with the OP, but at the same time i've kinda got used to it. I guess thats the prevailing power of the American culture. Sometimes i even get confused between two words, and i'm like..... damn, which one is actually English again?? Wouldn't want to put the American word and look stupid. |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:47:00 -
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Today I Learned people care about really inane things.
Same with every other day. |
Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2012.03.27 23:57:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:To the OP
dont blame the Americans they need to simplify everything including language
Remember that most Americans think that America won the second world war
and
9/11 happened because Muslims hate their freedoms.
Dont argue with them just pitty them. See what happened to the CSM when they were exposed to European strength beer.
shiptoastin' liek a baws |
Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 00:01:00 -
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Easy workaround for this: if it's not already possible, make it so the british spelling of the word links to the item just as the american spelling does.
Other than that, it's just spelling. It's not really a big deal. Fix incursions today! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=60460 |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
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Posted - 2012.03.28 04:58:00 -
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Tech3ZH wrote:OP It will be a moot point when the Samf+¬lag fyrir +¡slenska menningu (Society for Icelandic Culture) succeeds in getting the government of Iceland to pass that law they want where all products made in Iceland use the Icelandic language only.
What makes this hilarious is that "moot" means the opposite in England/Australia as it does in the USA. |
Tech3ZH
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.03.28 06:45:00 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Tech3ZH wrote:OP It will be a moot point when the Samf+¬lag fyrir +¡slenska menningu (Society for Icelandic Culture) succeeds in getting the government of Iceland to pass that law they want where all products made in Iceland use the Icelandic language only. What makes this hilarious is that "moot" means the opposite in England/Australia as it does in the USA.
Oddly, it kind of works either way, dunnit?...depending on who you are...
@ Clyde - please stop being rational...this is EVE, after all!
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Nu Tra
All Seeing Eye
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Posted - 2012.03.28 14:11:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:adopt wrote:Might I ask why you subjugate the people who can spell and pronounce the language correctly to such fallacy? Why am I forced to spell like an American when I am English? I cannot comprehend why, I, as an Englishman, am forced to improperly spell my native language.
Discuss. . .. Times change, my friend - but I do take umbrage at your usage of the Oxford English Dictionary to try and win a point. I was born and educated in and at Oxford. Now, I can almost guarantee that I could out-speak you in dialect, tonality, cadence, pronunciation and general debate. All the while I could do it with so much upper class snobbery and arrogance, that afterwards you'd feel the need to bend over and shine my shoes, little man. So, I wish to call you a hypocrite, as I doubt you have any grounds to correct Americans when your own pronunciation errors would not stand up to scrutiny, or as the Americans might say; scrutinization. AK
I followed your argument in agreement up until you reached the point above at which I cried, GÇ£A cad and a bounder sir!GÇ¥ In order to show the class system at work properly the correct phrasing would have been 'f4g boy' and not 'little man' as is intimated. It is clear you are not as you claim to be a Bullingdon lad.
However the main thrust of argument is indisputable in my opinion that English is an expanding inclusive language not static as our OP would suggest although there are a few rules of grammar that must be followed. I almost never see the words 'affect' and 'effect' used correctly. In fact, misuse of these words is so common that I have come to believe that most people no longer have a clue about how they are properly used. Probably most people are not even aware that they are two separate words.
Another pair of words that I see misused far more often than not is 'than' and 'then' of which there are a few examples in this very thread. As with affect and effect, than and then are so commonly misused that I suspect that more than mere carelessness is involved. I now believe that many people are either unaware that they are two separate words, or if they are aware of the two words, they have no idea of which is which.
Unlike then, than is not related to time. Than is used in comparative statements. Then is used either as a time marker or with a sequence of events.
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.28 16:50:00 -
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adopt wrote:But on a serious note, I do not know why I am forced to spell like a foreigner within my own language, I feel like there should be an Oxford English Localisation for those of us who cannot and will not adapt to another style of English.
You 'can' adapt, but you may choose not to.
If you 'will' not adapt, i.e. choose to not adapt, what are you going to do? |
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Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:37:00 -
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[quote=Vila eNorvic][quote=Mathias Hex]I dont see the problem, you would be speaking german right now if US didnt exist... [/quote Again, go back to school and learn some history. H****r gave up his plans to invade Britain long before America even thought about joining in
And the Americans would have turned up even later than they did if they hadn't been given an almighty shove when the Japanese caught them with their pants down at Pearl Harbo(u)r despite British efforts to warn them.[/quote
I actually know quite a bit a bout history World history even. Now I understand Europe being upset America didnt OFFICIALLY join earlier, but do try to understand US citizens didnt want any part of a european war since you all defaulted on our loans and drove us into a depression after WW1.
I believe the 3 major powers of that time , US,Brits, and yes the russkies after ****** bent them over. Was the only reason the allies won the war. If it werent for the US sending supplies and money and whatever else aid they could early on without decaring war, Brits would have lost africa, what ever part of spain you had, basically everything but your island.
I am aware ****** had no immediate plans to take your island but you really think he would have just left you alone??? Really? Fact is the world would be alot different if it werent for US involvement in WW2 and yes all the allies had a part in it.
This really doesnt require a answer but if US was still being taxed to death by the brits and under their control all our resources we saved up and sent to be used to fight tyranny would have been wasted in africa or god knows where else. Another fact is without our independence we wouldnt have had a massive industry in which to send all that aid and resources to basically every country not a part of the axis.
Maybe you all need to brush up on your world history a little.
And by the way Japan NEVER would have attacked us if FDR wasnt doing EVERYTHING in his power to force them to, Mainly to force US into the war. I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
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