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Kusariqqu
Gallente
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:48:00 -
[121]
 Originally by: Ji Sama
Edited by: Ji Sama on 07/09/2008 17:40:21
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Edited by: Kusariqqu on 07/09/2008 13:00:51
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
Haha how am i an alt?? ive only ever posted with this one character.
Come down n haul be my guest
Lol, its called alts...
I use them all the time, to get support on the forum.
Actually no, none of them are alts, if u come down to local and see there are there own ppl and play the game.
Says the alt, and dont worry i am on my way right now in my hauler...
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kusariqqu
Haha how am i an alt?? ive only ever posted with this one character.
Come down n haul be my guest
there you go...
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
kingskin
Caldari
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:58:00 -
[123]
Yup fas local is blue,feel free to jump in
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Mogren
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 18:49:00 -
[124]
Originally by: thetwilitehour
It's pretty hilarious how the market discussion people in this thread are acting like bullies. Granted these guys written English skills are a bit lacking, but truthfully they set up an anti pirate area for new players to have a bit of freedom, and you all see that as somehow a threat or something? If they had some profitable enterprise and were acting like big mouthed jerks to defend it I could why you'd feel a need to act like going afk in a recon proves how tough you are.
Also a lot of people are making comments like "should've bought that 1m isk mod huh noob haha lolerskates" are you really stupid enough to believe that? The moment they commit to buying overpriced mods to keep the market bare, people will start seeding that market like crazy.
So really. You guys are pretty tough for picking on people who like to help new players. We're all real impressed.
Thank you thewilitehour. That sums up the situation well. Atleast a few sane people still browse these forums.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:26:00 -
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Bad form on the English comments, imo. You guys do know that not everyone happened to have English as a first language, non?
Let's see you make a post on a Russian forum before you nitpick about the grammar. 
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ramblin Man
Bad form on the English comments, imo. You guys do know that not everyone happened to have English as a first language, non?
Let's see you make a post on a Russian forum before you nitpick about the grammar.
Unfortunately for the ESL crowd, CCP chose English as the language for the game.
I dont think its so much as a slam as it is a "fix your rules" suggestion.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
This addition just underscores the fact that the forums can be confusing as English is the standard, just not the fluent medium for everyone.
Athre and I agree to disagree on her position. I just figure that in most cases one should make allowances for any confusion that may arise when the common language is not the fluent one for either party. Besides, I pretty much don't all that much care about what happened with the OP. I just think the CEO of CCCPI made the drama much more, and the forum reaction much more, with his "in your face *****es" posting. No matter what you may think about the good some people do... there is always a negative reaction for unwarranted hubris. Just look at all the bs that goes in COAD. Not to be taken seriously but not to be taken lightly either. What a person says can, and usually will, be held accountable for what they say more than what they do. "F U all" is a fine attitude where warranted but it can also create unnecessary drama and bs for the person (people) that say it. That's just my $0.02.
To Shar -verb:
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2 - To say what it means.
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LordArcher
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Posted - 2008.09.08 02:14:00 -
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As some one who is protected CCCPI and the Mofa Treaty, I'm very offend by you people trying to bring down and discredit them. They gave me a rat free environment where me and my Corp could mine in peace. People like you got my hulk and equipment destroyed. (By the way, the pirates who killed me, where in a anti pirate cooperation, and openly professed that they often commit piracy ) CCCPI is a great help to those who are trying to earn an honest living away from people who kill undefended players for the heck of it.
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Erimisha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.08 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: LordArcher
As some one who is protected CCCPI and the Mofa Treaty, I'm very offend by you people trying to bring down and discredit them. They gave me a rat free environment where me and my Corp could mine in peace. People like you got my hulk and equipment destroyed. (By the way, the pirates who killed me, where in a anti pirate cooperation, and openly professed that they often commit piracy) CCCPI is a great help to those who are trying to earn an honest living away from people who kill undefended players for the heck of it.
If anyone has the 'right' to be offended it would be the MD regulars after your holy savior R3dskull posted this on the first page of this thread
Quote:
do your worst because compared to pirates your all pretty pathetic. just a bunch of lame disgruntled traders with nothing better to do than feel powerful becasue yer all to lame to undock and play the game, isk hungry, merc hiring weaklings. Its days like this im glad pirates exist they give me a reason to defend good people and a reason to laugh at the idiots who get war decced like you guys and griefed.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.09.08 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Erimisha
If anyone has the 'right' to be offended it would be the MD regulars after your holy savior R3dskull posted this on the first page of this thread
Quote:
do your worst because compared to pirates your all pretty pathetic. just a bunch of lame disgruntled traders with nothing better to do than feel powerful becasue yer all to lame to undock and play the game, isk hungry, merc hiring weaklings. Its days like this im glad pirates exist they give me a reason to defend good people and a reason to laugh at the idiots who get war decced like you guys and griefed.
He wasn't worth responding to. I'm never going to convince him that I'm out kicking ass on a regular basis so why bother? Even better, I should have tried to convince him that I get in real PVP as opposed to ransoming noobs and haulers only to run to an NPC station the moment a bigger blob shows up, that would have gone really easy. Trying to pound that through his narrow-minded head just isn't worth the effort and more importantly, it would have detracted from the comedy-gold this thread turned into.
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Dr Omelette
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Posted - 2008.09.08 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: VatiKaki
Just move the stuff and leave us alone to play the game we like the way we want to.
no, this game is not that. anyone can own you and knowing that you don't want to be owned makes people want you owned, just in case you cry
Originally by: Kusariqqu
You saying we are smack talking? You really are a fool arnt you.
^^ lol
don't tell us what we can and can't do. let us or stop us, that is all ...
/jobistaken = CCP =/= CCCPI
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:12:00 -
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Funny thread. However, it does highlight a problem quite well. Say what you will about CCCP and their behaviour in this thread, but this whole mess goes to show that more market tools are needed. If a corp wishes to enforce a blockade on a system (at gun point if necessary) they should be able to do so without having to rely on greedy market 'griefers' (yay) following rules. It's definately something for CCP to take a look at.
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Ordon Gundar
Caldari
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:27:00 -
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You cant hold a system for yourself unless you are able to enforce it. This system is ripe for a blockade runner frenzy and the saturation of the market.
Fly fast..Rats Die..Buy Low..Sell High- Ordon Gundar, CEO of Gundars Independent Traders - Space (G.I.T.S) |
Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:59:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
this whole mess goes to show that more market tools are needed. If a corp wishes to enforce a blockade on a system (at gun point if necessary) they should be able to do so without having to rely on greedy market 'griefers' (yay) following rules. It's definately something for CCP to take a look at.
In 0.0 I might be tempted to agree with you, but this is low sec. With NPC stations, not player outpost. It is still "empire" space.
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Jackie Fisher
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:04:00 -
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There isnÆt a market in Zanka to saturate.
The reality is Zanka is a low-sec end system to a non-event branch that you need to travel through a couple of other non-event systems to get to. It is also not far from the hi-sec major trade hub of Amarr. There is no natural passing trade and anyone wishing to shop there would find it the same number of jumps to get to Amarr.
The locals are predominately æCCCPI friendlyÆ and do and will respect CCCPI wishes with regards to Zanka trading.
Whilst in terms of PR and diplomacy CCCPI may not have sparkled in this thread anyone under the impression that CCCPI are running a protection racket and gouging the locals via a closed market in Zanka is wrong. Essentially CCCPI are æpaidÆ for their efforts by leaving some rocks for them to mine or look at or whatever they do with them.
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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:10:00 -
[136]
Awesome thread is awesome.
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
In 0.0 I might be tempted to agree with you, but this is low sec. With NPC stations, not player outpost. It is still "empire" space.
Well, as I understood CCP's intentions for the "open market" design as coupled with war mechanics, you where supposed to be able to enforce these kinds of things by force of arms. Given today's game mechanics, you can't, and I wish CCP would give us tools for this kind of warfare.
I hate to make RL comparisons, but competition is very prevalent in a capitalistic society, and you can use force to get a market monopoly. It's hard, but it's possible. By 'force' I'm not necessarily talking about weapons, but rather hostile takeovers and the like.
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Grandial
Qubicle Productions
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:17:00 -
[138]
Can't we all just be friends?
ôTwo things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.ö |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Well, as I understood CCP's intentions for the "open market" design as coupled with war mechanics, you where supposed to be able to enforce these kinds of things by force of arms. Given today's game mechanics, you can't, and I wish CCP would give us tools for this kind of warfare.
You can.. you can camp the stations and the gates ensuring that an embargo is held and nothing gets in or out. Remote buying and selling only will then effect the ones already in the system. If its an NPC station all orders are dealt with through brokers.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:54:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
You want to complain about buying and selling remotely through outposts then you have a legitimate debate
Which was my point earlier.
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Roguehalo
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.09.08 15:47:00 -
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I once decided to take over the ship trade in a certain region and in doing so I upset the incumbent trader. He did all sorts of stuff including threatening to wardec me with his alliance.
I just told him to "f*ck off"
End of story
Hard to see why this thread ever started tbh
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:24:00 -
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I can't believe I read most of this thread. I was sure that at some people someone would have mentioned how badly everyone is getting played here.
Talk about falling for the troll bait.
If you wanna send mercs at these guys, or if you wanna trade in their space, or if you wanna buy out all their stuff then do it, stop wagging your e-peens about saying you'll do it. You all sound like Danari, threatening all these horrible things when you all know you aren't really gonna do most of what you say and even if you do you won't have any negative effect on them.
I'm ashamed of the MD forum after reading this thread. I was sure many of the posters here had more intelligence than was shown in this thread. Wasting so much time with such a worthless issue. This entire thread should have never been started and everyone should have been laughing at the OP for his incredibly stupid first few posts.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
If you wanna send mercs at these guys, or if you wanna trade in their space, or if you wanna buy out all their stuff then do it, stop wagging your e-peens about saying you'll do it. You all sound like Danari, threatening all these horrible things when you all know you aren't really gonna do most of what you say and even if you do you won't have any negative effect on them.
I'm ashamed of the MD forum after reading this thread. I was sure many of the posters here had more intelligence than was shown in this thread. Wasting so much time with such a worthless issue. This entire thread should have never been started and everyone should have been laughing at the OP for his incredibly stupid first few posts.
I went for a visit, and really fell let down by all the hype. The whole cluster was "meh", I was especially let down after all the bravado that R3dskull brought to this thread.
Real let down, either the thread was an outright troll for targets, or R3dskull has an even bigger ego than you Shadarle.
I mean that in the nicest way possible, Shadarle.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
I can't believe I read most of this thread. I was sure that at some people someone would have mentioned how badly everyone is getting played here. Talk about falling for the troll bait.
I'm not the least bit ashamed. It was a slow weekend (on these forums) and OP & CCCPI made a funnier then usual thread. Kudos. Sorry the thread didn't live up to your standards though. We'll try to label threads as "worth Shadarle's time" or not in the future. To avoid you reading adhoc interweb randomz and wasting any of your valuable life.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Sorry the thread didn't live up to your standards though. We'll try to label threads as "worth Shadarle's time" or not in the future. To avoid you reading adhoc interweb randomz and wasting any of your valuable life.
Thanks, this would be most appreciated. You'll have to post early in a thread though and later edit the post with this information so I can quickly know to stop reading.
Thanks again, in advance!
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Thanks, this would be most appreciated. You'll have to post early in a thread though and later edit the post with this information so I can quickly know to stop reading. Thanks again, in advance!
We all live to please you my lord. Just ask any of the other voices you are obviously hearing.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Shar Tegral on 08/09/2008 17:50:18
WOW double post ftl.
Damn error 500.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.08 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
You want to complain about buying and selling remotely through outposts then you have a legitimate debate
Which was my point earlier.
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isdisco3
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 19:16:00 -
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If I had like 4-5b I didn't care about, or some spare pos lying around my hangars, I'd totally go pos spam that system just to **** these morons off.
In Soviet Mofa, the modules sell YOU!
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
I post the following as an Individual and not a representative of EBANK, BSA, either of the organization's members or their affiliates.
This thread is indeed a great read, I really enjoyed reading it. Like Shad I am sorry to see some people in here acting the way they did, We clearly don't like communism on EVE, it just seems like a COAD thread to me.
To the OP, In all honesty there is nothing anyone can do to prevent you from selling in an NPC station. Even in 0.0. If you get the item there you have every right to sell it. You also have every right to BUY whatever is on the market.
Local politics in lowsec is "understood" politics. Backed up by the power of their military force. If they never catch you, you have nothing to worry about, with Risk comes reward. Clearly this system has an added risk that you need to keep away from CCCPI. So if you manage to get stuff there, you should charge a premium, because you KNOW no one else is selling stuff there.
Now for some "Local" advice...
To the CCCPI people in here, this forum is no COAD. In all honesty the people in here have more wealth, power, and connections then COAD and have enough ISK and knows ways of generating enough ISK to make your sanctuary a living hell until the server shuts down. Just as you don't want us ****ing in your back yard, don't come into ours and tell us we can't.
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