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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:20:00 -
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 Quote:
2008.09.06 13:36
your sales in zanka have been noticed and we do not permit sales in zanka, If you have anything on market after this mail please remove it and bring it to another system. We ask people do not sellin items in zanka but move them to hayumtom or faswiba or amarr for sales.
if you purchesed these remotely. please give the names of those who you purchased them from so we can deal with them. failure to comply with these requests will result in you being marked kos. DO NOT SELL OUT OF ZANKA!!!
If you are unaware of the rules in zank i will be happy to send you the treaty of mofa.
=CCCP=Gen.R3DSKULL
Hi all MD readers.
This is my first time creating a new topic in MD forum. Forgive me if my English is not so well. As above, today , i received a mail from CCCP INC. A corp saying that they have controlled the Mofa Constellation.
What i am trying to do here is i want to know what is your opinion ?
I will post the chat log later. If i am the wrong side , please forgive me.
Thank you
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Izlea on 06/09/2008 18:22:48
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Channel ID: 2135497783
Channel Name: Private Chat (alone)
Listener: Izlea
Session started: 2008.09.06 14:41:33
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[ 2008.09.06 14:41:37 ] R3DSKULL > hail
[ 2008.09.06 14:41:42 ] Izlea > hi
[ 2008.09.06 14:41:44 ] R3DSKULL > thank you for returning my mail
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:03 ] Izlea > gimme ur reasons for ur mail please
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:22 ] R3DSKULL > you were selling goods in a system we protect and do not permit sales of goods
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:27 ] R3DSKULL > as there is one station
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:32 ] R3DSKULL > and we want no sales there
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:36 ] R3DSKULL > its been this way for over 2 years
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:40 ] R3DSKULL > no sales noone comes there
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:45 ] R3DSKULL > so as you were selling goods
[ 2008.09.06 14:42:54 ] R3DSKULL > i sent mail so if you have any other up
[ 2008.09.06 14:43:16 ] R3DSKULL > you would remove what is left and move it
[ 2008.09.06 14:43:20 ] R3DSKULL > and not contine to sell there
[ 2008.09.06 14:43:24 ] R3DSKULL > if you remote purchased
[ 2008.09.06 14:43:38 ] R3DSKULL > please give me the name of who sold u the items so i can deal with them plz
[ 2008.09.06 14:44:35 ] R3DSKULL > any questions?
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:03 ] Izlea > well , i cant haul em since i cant fly any ships except noobship and shuttle
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:04 ] R3DSKULL > would u like a copy of the local treaty for mofa constellation?
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:15 ] R3DSKULL > so how did u get it?
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:24 ] R3DSKULL > and how in zanka of a dead end system of all places?
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:32 ] Izlea > must be some sell to me
[ 2008.09.06 14:45:54 ] Izlea > [14:45:04] R3DSKULL > would u like a copy of the local treaty for mofa constellation? <<--- please send me a copy
[ 2008.09.06 14:46:21 ] R3DSKULL > ok
[ 2008.09.06 14:46:34 ] R3DSKULL > can you go into your transaction adn see who sold you the goods
[ 2008.09.06 14:46:36 ] R3DSKULL > so i can deal with them
[ 2008.09.06 14:46:39 ] R3DSKULL > yes i will send you
[ 2008.09.06 14:46:52 ] Izlea > well ... i have like more than 2000+ transactions
[ 2008.09.06 14:47:59 ] R3DSKULL > ok
[ 2008.09.06 14:48:01 ] R3DSKULL > thats alot
[ 2008.09.06 14:48:08 ] R3DSKULL > but u can look at the one in say zanka
[ 2008.09.06 14:48:40 ] Izlea > i wish CCP would implement how to look base on systems sell/buy
[ 2008.09.06 14:51:25 ] R3DSKULL > there u go sent
[ 2008.09.06 14:51:32 ] R3DSKULL > read and let me know if u have questions
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:23 ] R3DSKULL > if u agree we can work something out
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:30 ] R3DSKULL > im not a pirate and im not a ****head
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:33 ] R3DSKULL > so i will help u out
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:36 ] Izlea > i know
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:47 ] R3DSKULL > i just want no traffic in that system
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:49 ] R3DSKULL > and if stuff on markets
[ 2008.09.06 14:52:54 ] R3DSKULL > then people come in
[ 2008.09.06 14:53:06 ] Izlea > im reading ur mail
[ 2008.09.06 14:54:15 ] R3DSKULL > kk
[ 2008.09.06 14:55:50 ] Izlea > ok ...
[ 2008.09.06 14:55:57 ] Izlea > 1st i cant haul my items in there
[ 2008.09.06 14:56:14 ] R3DSKULL > what u got left?
[ 2008.09.06 14:57:43 ] Izlea > Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters x1 left
[ 2008.09.06 14:57:45 ] Izlea > thats all
[ 2008.09.06 14:58:54 ] Izlea > ahhh
[ 2008.09.06 14:59:03 ] Izlea > only that left .. no more else in zanka
[ 2008.09.06 15:00:39 ] Izlea > so, what u want me to do ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:09 ] R3DSKULL > those are small
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:14 ] Izlea > yup
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:18 ] R3DSKULL > they can move in a frigate
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:26 ] R3DSKULL > please move them next door to hayumtom
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:26 ] R3DSKULL > or faswiba
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:32 ] R3DSKULL > and if u see anymore items for sale
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Izlea on 06/09/2008 18:29:24
Quote:
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:33 ] R3DSKULL > and u buy them
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:42 ] R3DSKULL > let me know who is selling them
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:45 ] R3DSKULL > ill give u a reward
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:51 ] Izlea > well ... i can find the seller ...
[ 2008.09.06 15:01:55 ] Izlea > but i cant haul the item
[ 2008.09.06 15:02:23 ] Izlea > my suggestion .. ill set a sell order for that item, u buy it , ill find the seller and give the details for u
[ 2008.09.06 15:03:29 ] Izlea > is it ok ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:03:36 ] R3DSKULL > wait u want to sell me the iems
[ 2008.09.06 15:03:44 ] Izlea > just 1 item
[ 2008.09.06 15:04:03 ] R3DSKULL > how much?
[ 2008.09.06 15:04:04 ] Izlea > im a trader not a hauler
[ 2008.09.06 15:04:41 ] R3DSKULL > so u just move stuff
[ 2008.09.06 15:04:46 ] R3DSKULL > u dotn go anywhere
[ 2008.09.06 15:04:50 ] Izlea > i dont move my stuff
[ 2008.09.06 15:05:22 ] Izlea > sell order is up
[ 2008.09.06 15:05:27 ] Izlea > its just 1mil mate
[ 2008.09.06 15:06:12 ] R3DSKULL > thats too high
[ 2008.09.06 15:06:21 ] R3DSKULL > those sell for about 500k
[ 2008.09.06 15:06:22 ] Izlea > errr
[ 2008.09.06 15:06:27 ] R3DSKULL > 590 to 600
[ 2008.09.06 15:06:31 ] Izlea > have u check the market ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:07:29 ] R3DSKULL > yeah
[ 2008.09.06 15:07:34 ] R3DSKULL > i can see all in region
[ 2008.09.06 15:08:15 ] Izlea > only 23 units sell below 700k
[ 2008.09.06 15:08:22 ] Izlea > other are 900k
[ 2008.09.06 15:08:55 ] Izlea > so, 1mil is consider ok for me
[ 2008.09.06 15:08:59 ] R3DSKULL > i see 2 at 590
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:05 ] R3DSKULL > in hisoufad
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:09 ] R3DSKULL > 1 and 590
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:14 ] R3DSKULL > i see 7 at 600k
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:14 ] Izlea > yup
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:17 ] R3DSKULL > no 1mil is too much
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:19 ] R3DSKULL > its not worth that
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:22 ] R3DSKULL > its a shit module
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:25 ] R3DSKULL > i can get for free on a rat
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:32 ] R3DSKULL > you need to get it lower
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:33 ] R3DSKULL > not higher
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:38 ] R3DSKULL > its a backwater ssytem
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:42 ] R3DSKULL > if yer a trader u sell it lower
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:47 ] R3DSKULL > where things dont sell
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:48 ] R3DSKULL > not higher
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:50 ] R3DSKULL > that dont make sense
[ 2008.09.06 15:09:55 ] R3DSKULL > and im not a trader im a killer
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:01 ] R3DSKULL > just remove it ok
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:10 ] R3DSKULL > im not intrested in the module
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:18 ] R3DSKULL > im trying to politly ask you to not sell from zanka
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:19 ] R3DSKULL > simple as
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:24 ] Izlea > true ... but .. u the one asked me to clear em
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:33 ] R3DSKULL > yeah but not at a ripoff price
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:39 ] Izlea > and u asked the infomation about my seller
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:40 ] R3DSKULL > 1mil for that shit module is silly
[ 2008.09.06 15:10:55 ] Izlea > u want to know who sell it to me right ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:11:12 ] Izlea > i can put 100mil if i want mate
[ 2008.09.06 15:11:27 ] Izlea > im reasoning with you for market price
[ 2008.09.06 15:11:42 ] R3DSKULL > here ill say this
[ 2008.09.06 15:11:46 ] R3DSKULL > put it at 100mil if u like
[ 2008.09.06 15:11:57 ] R3DSKULL > how can u trade if yuer corp is at war?
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:04 ] R3DSKULL > are u capable then?
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:06 ] Izlea > :) i can ^.^
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:10 ] R3DSKULL > please remove the moduels
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:17 ] R3DSKULL > you will never leave station
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:23 ] R3DSKULL > so u will be limited to 1 region
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:40 ] R3DSKULL > im trying to be nice
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:43 ] R3DSKULL > but yer trying my patience
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:46 ] R3DSKULL > please remove the module
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:48 ] R3DSKULL > u can move it
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:53 ] R3DSKULL > if not u will be marked kos
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:23:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Izlea on 06/09/2008 18:30:29
Quote:
[ 2008.09.06 15:12:59 ] R3DSKULL > if u want me to buy it
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:03 ] R3DSKULL > make it a real price
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:24 ] Izlea > thats the price ,,,, 1mil
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:40 ] R3DSKULL > is 1 mil worth the trouble i can cause you?
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:43 ] Izlea > if 1mil u cant accept , u cant ppl to move their own things
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:47 ] R3DSKULL > my corp has crushed allainces
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:57 ] Izlea > :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:13:58 ] R3DSKULL > im being polite
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:08 ] R3DSKULL > you cant afford the mercs needed to deal with me
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:11 ] Izlea > does 1mil really worth war with me ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:16 ] R3DSKULL > they cost over 2 bill a week
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:24 ] R3DSKULL > yep i love to shoot people who try my patience
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:33 ] R3DSKULL > when im polite
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:36 ] R3DSKULL > then u try to rip me off
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:44 ] R3DSKULL > by charging me double what something is worth?
[ 2008.09.06 15:14:59 ] Izlea > dude .. its a bloody 1mil module not a bloody 100mil module
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:12 ] R3DSKULL > no its a 500k modules
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:18 ] R3DSKULL > its a piecve of shit rat drop
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:22 ] R3DSKULL > i get one every other rat here
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:29 ] R3DSKULL > they not worth 1mil
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:39 ] R3DSKULL > amarr is the trade hub here
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:43 ] R3DSKULL > and not one
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:45 ] R3DSKULL > sells for 1mil in amarr
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:48 ] Izlea > err thats from ur point of view not mine
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:49 ] R3DSKULL > 900 lowes
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:53 ] R3DSKULL > you should sell in amarr
[ 2008.09.06 15:15:58 ] R3DSKULL > i dont give a shit about yer value
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:04 ] R3DSKULL > im telling u to get that shit out of zanka
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:07 ] Izlea > as i said , im a trader , ill buy at low price and ill sell at high price
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:08 ] R3DSKULL > or be marked kos
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:24 ] R3DSKULL > you obviously dont understand what war is
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:27 ] R3DSKULL > have u had a war?
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:37 ] Izlea > trading is already a war :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:42 ] Izlea > market pvp is a war
[ 2008.09.06 15:16:56 ] Izlea > yes, im having war everytime i log into eve
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:14 ] R3DSKULL > how about a war that makes u blow up everytime u undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:26 ] Izlea > problem is ... i never undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:37 ] R3DSKULL > what about yer other 4 members
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:40 ] Izlea > ive been sitting in station for a year
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:49 ] R3DSKULL > thats a lame ass way to play eve
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:55 ] R3DSKULL > sounds like yer an alt
[ 2008.09.06 15:17:59 ] R3DSKULL > maybe i shouild find yer mains
[ 2008.09.06 15:18:01 ] R3DSKULL > who do undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:18:06 ] Izlea > :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:18:30 ] Izlea > my main is a trader which dont undock for about 2 years
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:11 ] R3DSKULL > so u just sit in station for 2 years
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:15 ] R3DSKULL > wasting yer time trading in eve
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:17 ] R3DSKULL > WTF is the point
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:19 ] R3DSKULL > thats stupid
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:24 ] R3DSKULL > thats not even playing the game
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:28 ] Izlea > getting more isk ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:40 ] R3DSKULL > sound like yer an isk seller
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:44 ] Izlea > lol
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:52 ] R3DSKULL > why build isk for nothing
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:54 ] Izlea > im trading and u call me isk seller
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:54 ] R3DSKULL > if u dont fly ships
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:56 ] R3DSKULL > u dont undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:19:59 ] R3DSKULL > what is the point
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:03 ] Izlea > dude .. if u want war ..
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:06 ] Izlea > come ...
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:08 ] R3DSKULL > trading for isk for the ability to buy nothing?
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:34:00 -
[5]
Quote:
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:16 ] R3DSKULL > what a ****ing waste of a good game
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:21 ] R3DSKULL > why not play hte stock market
[ 2008.09.06 15:20:26 ] R3DSKULL > so i dont have yer garbage in my home
[ 2008.09.06 15:21:02 ] R3DSKULL > you lie u dont undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:21:06 ] R3DSKULL > i see yer corp history
[ 2008.09.06 15:21:08 ] R3DSKULL > and i know yer old corps
[ 2008.09.06 15:21:36 ] Izlea > go and check mate
[ 2008.09.06 15:21:59 ] R3DSKULL > i am im researching u right now
[ 2008.09.06 15:22:06 ] Izlea > thank you
[ 2008.09.06 15:22:43 ] R3DSKULL > seems u like to die in minni shuttles in rancer
[ 2008.09.06 15:23:11 ] Izlea > :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:06 ] R3DSKULL > you own shares in arrow project in morsus mihi
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:08 ] Izlea > i dont get it ... u rather make urself busy instead of buying my module at 1mil ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:27 ] R3DSKULL > no i wont buy it
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:34 ] R3DSKULL > id rather spend ten mill to prove my point
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:41 ] R3DSKULL > im stubborn
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:45 ] Kusariqqu > whats going on?
[ 2008.09.06 15:24:47 ] R3DSKULL > and i talk with guns not money
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:03 ] Izlea > Kusariqqu
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:18 ] Kusariqqu > yes
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:19 ] Izlea > ur diplo asked me to move my thing in zanka
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:29 ] R3DSKULL > im the ceo not a diplomate
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:29 ] Kusariqqu > ok
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:39 ] Izlea > ok .. my bad .. ur CEO
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:44 ] R3DSKULL > the HNIC
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:52 ] R3DSKULL > this is my co ceo
[ 2008.09.06 15:25:54 ] Izlea > probem is .. i cant / wont move it
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:02 ] Kusariqqu > right its simple we dont let ppl sell out of zanka cos it attracts attension
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:07 ] Izlea > then .. ur ceo asked me for the infomation of the seller
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:09 ] Kusariqqu > why cant you?
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:28 ] R3DSKULL > hows yer bhaalgorn do u spin it in station?
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:34 ] Izlea > so , my suggestion is .. i asked him to buy my module and then ill provide the infomation of the seller
[ 2008.09.06 15:26:57 ] Izlea > the price of the module just 1mil :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:27:09 ] Kusariqqu > how about u give him 1 mill, he will buy it and then we dont go to war?
[ 2008.09.06 15:27:28 ] Izlea > im a trader , not a hauler not a isk donator :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:27:53 ] Izlea > my question ... do u guys want to know the infomation about the person who sell the stuff to me in zanka ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:27:59 ] Kusariqqu > the module isnt worth 1 mill
[ 2008.09.06 15:28:17 ] Izlea > well , an extra for the infomation :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:29:27 ] Kusariqqu > is that 1 mill really that important to you?
[ 2008.09.06 15:29:34 ] R3DSKULL > i see u have hired mercs in the past eh
[ 2008.09.06 15:29:46 ] R3DSKULL > which ones did u hire
[ 2008.09.06 15:29:50 ] Izlea > question ... is that 1mil really important to u guys :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:00 ] Izlea > is that 1mil worth ur trouble ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:10 ] R3DSKULL > if it leads to pvp im down
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:15 ] Kusariqqu > trouble? haha
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:16 ] R3DSKULL > becasue yer a pirate
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:20 ] Kusariqqu > u have no idea
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:23 ] R3DSKULL > trying to bribe me
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:23 ] Izlea > im a pirate ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:31 ] R3DSKULL > becasue i asked u to move yer goods over 1 jump
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:33 ] Izlea > im bribing u ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:35 ] R3DSKULL > i even offerd to assit you
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:41 ] R3DSKULL > to move it for you
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:42 ] Izlea > zanka is far away from me
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:43 ] R3DSKULL > at no charge
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:46 ] R3DSKULL > but u try to rob me
[ 2008.09.06 15:30:50 ] R3DSKULL > and overcharge me
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:15 ] Kusariqqu > ok how about this
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:20 ] Kusariqqu > u give him 500k
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:35:00 -
[6]
Quote:
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:26 ] Kusariqqu > and we will buy the module for its worth
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:28 ] Izlea > nope :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:29 ] Kusariqqu > and we end it
[ 2008.09.06 15:31:46 ] Kusariqqu > why u been difficult?
[ 2008.09.06 15:32:02 ] Izlea > im tired of this .. just buy my stuff .. its done
[ 2008.09.06 15:32:18 ] Izlea > either u want to war dec me whatsoever .. go ahead
[ 2008.09.06 15:32:23 ] R3DSKULL > your yugoslivian?
[ 2008.09.06 15:32:41 ] Izlea > and i wish u good luck if u wanna war with me
[ 2008.09.06 15:32:57 ] Kusariqqu > we dont need luck
[ 2008.09.06 15:33:32 ] R3DSKULL > we were polite
[ 2008.09.06 15:33:36 ] R3DSKULL > we asked u to do soemthing simple
[ 2008.09.06 15:33:41 ] R3DSKULL > we even offerd assitance
[ 2008.09.06 15:33:48 ] R3DSKULL > u try to make us pay you
[ 2008.09.06 15:33:59 ] R3DSKULL > and you sit there smug thinking your safe
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:10 ] Izlea > u wanna war ?
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:12 ] R3DSKULL > why not just be a good person
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:14 ] Izlea > do it .. ill wait
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:15 ] R3DSKULL > and move yer shit over 1 jump
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:23 ] R3DSKULL > you testing me?
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:27 ] Izlea > stop smack talking ... do the war now if u want
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:32 ] R3DSKULL > you want to see if ill od it?
[ 2008.09.06 15:34:51 ] Izlea > just do it mate
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:03 ] R3DSKULL > ill watch the forums for your beggin of mercs
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:08 ] Kusariqqu > i hope u got alot of isk for ur merc buddies
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:08 ] R3DSKULL > like the little ***** u are
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:15 ] Izlea > i dont need mercs :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:22 ] Kusariqqu > cool
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:26 ] R3DSKULL > yeah well seems u hired them in the past
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:31 ] R3DSKULL > from yer forum posts
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:43 ] Izlea > i said .. stop smack talking and just do it
[ 2008.09.06 15:35:47 ] Izlea > im waiting for ye war
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:05 ] R3DSKULL > ok its coming
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:08 ] R3DSKULL > takes 24hrs
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:11 ] Kusariqqu > well if u new anything takes 24 hours to process a vote
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:33 ] Izlea > :| yeh yeh ...im checking my mail :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:45 ] Kusariqqu > it does lol
[ 2008.09.06 15:36:57 ] R3DSKULL > vote is in
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:01 ] R3DSKULL > 24 hrs ui will see it
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:03 ] Izlea > lol
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:05 ] R3DSKULL > better start getting mercs now
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:10 ] Izlea > yeah right :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:32 ] R3DSKULL > you gonna fight yer own war?
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:33 ] Kusariqqu > Corporate Vote - Declare War Against INet Group
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:36 ] R3DSKULL > i thought u dont undock
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:45 ] R3DSKULL > i hate rude ****ers
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:45 ] Izlea > i dont undock :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:50 ] R3DSKULL > you dry to be nice
[ 2008.09.06 15:37:55 ] R3DSKULL > and they just have to me shit heads
[ 2008.09.06 15:38:15 ] Izlea > i just want to see either u guys r bunch of smack talkers / cowards or not
[ 2008.09.06 15:38:34 ] Kusariqqu > in 24 hours from now u will get a mail
[ 2008.09.06 15:38:37 ] R3DSKULL > ill be there im far from a coward
[ 2008.09.06 15:38:40 ] Kusariqqu > and trust us, we aint cowards
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:02 ] Izlea > smack talkers then :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:06 ] Kusariqqu > weve caused more damage than most un allainced corps
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:09 ] R3DSKULL > no we killers
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:20 ] Kusariqqu > 24 hours buddie
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:23 ] R3DSKULL > smack is fun
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:25 ] Izlea > ye ye .. killers that smack talk always :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:25 ] R3DSKULL > woot
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:28 ] R3DSKULL > smacking u down
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:34 ] R3DSKULL > hire yer mercs
[ 2008.09.06 15:39:56 ] Izlea > i dont need mercs to deal with bunch of smack talkers like u guys :)
[ 2008.09.06 15:40:06 ] Kusariqqu > yep we smack
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:36:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Kwint Sommer on 06/09/2008 18:46:25
I read the first one and still have no idea what your point is. So here's my opinion, no reads giant walls of text.
Purchasing and Shipping Moon Minerals |
Kiyoseki
One-Trick Pony Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:42:00 -
[8]
Edited by: Kiyoseki on 06/09/2008 18:47:54
Since Kwint was too lazy.
I will say that I didn't read the full chatlog, but I will say this.
Continue what you are doing as they have pretty much no way to control you.
They are unable to tell you what to do, its lowsec and the they simply don't want your market to generate traffic, which personally I would like to see that kind of idea snuffed out.
In fact, I think it might be time for some market warfare on a certain system...
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:44:00 -
[9]
looks like someone with ocd very frustrated with something they cant control
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:48:00 -
[10]
I am sorry to post such quite a long chat log and wall of text. I never thought the log is that long.
This is my first experience posting such this thing in MD forum. Forgive me.
I just want to know , and to tell other traders that trading is not an easy job to do.
And also i need to know either am i the wrong one or not.
Thank you for your time.
Again, forgive me if this post is wrong.
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Kiyoseki
One-Trick Pony Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:50:00 -
[11]
You are not in the wrong, you are definitely doing it right.
Continue what you are doing, do it alot.
If they continue to send you mails and conversations, block them.
If they continue to grief you at that point, report them, but only if they create new characters to talk to you.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 18:57:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Izlea
Again, forgive me if this post is wrong.
Silly of them putting a big target marker on that constellation for all those shooty shooty types. Nothing gets them all excited like someone saying we kill all pirates. Of course I said this much when you convoed me for some advice on the matter. I also pointed out the simple mechanics here: No targettable assets or pilots, war is pointless. If they wanted something, they offer something. Demands go nowhere and simply outs your sweet little carebear heaven. For all you pirates: That is ZANKA . Spelled with a Z. Many carebear uber alliance ass kickers there. Have fun. PS: Thanks for posting the chat log. Adds some spice considering the chat we had at the same time.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Kiyoseki
One-Trick Pony Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:00:00 -
[13]
I would also like to point out that if we all put one different item for sale in that system the newest low-sec trade hub would be created...
Who's with me?
Oh and about the pirate types... My main character is already working angles.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:01:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Kiyoseki
I would also like to point out that if we all put one different item for sale in that system the newest low-sec trade hub would be created...
Very intriguing idea.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Inoshuu
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:03:00 -
[15]
Psst...chat log aren't allowed. Put them in a text file and host it somewhere...
Looks like CCCP is trying to act like they're the mafia in the area, tell them to suck it.
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Duffman84
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:07:00 -
[16]
So going to that system to put as many items up for sale at cheap prices just to **** them off!!
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Anthen Wilkilya
Gallente
The Wilkilya Institute of Pwnancy
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:08:00 -
[17]
I remember these guys from when we wardec'd em and chopped em up like onions in a vegamatic. They are a bunch of Ruski smack talkers who think it's awesome to have a controlled market in a dead end low sec system. All that system is good for is target practice. I think I'll grab my blockade runner and start hauling goods into the system then undercut everything they have for sale. Or better yet, I'll just head over and set up shop and mess with their markets. Let's all head over there and just mess with their market.. it's the right thing to do.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:11:00 -
[18]
appearances can be deceiving - can we stop with the manipulation threads?
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:15:00 -
[19]
Originally by: SiJira
appearances can be deceiving - can we stop with the manipulation threads?
Seems like a win-win all around to me no matter how you view the manipulation. 1 - OP is spiting the residents. 2 - OP is trying to encourage trade with the intent to buy up underpriced items. 3 - OP is part of CCCPI looking to have more targets fly into their crosshairs. All the way around, more fun for everyone.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:25:00 -
[20]
Originally by: SiJira
appearances can be deceiving - can we stop with the manipulation threads?
With all the respect, what do you mean by this ? I posted the chat log as a proof , CCCP INC said they will war dec me. I do not intend to do any manipulation here. Also, i do not know any of the CCCP INC. I just feel weird because a corp claimed controling a npc system. I have never heard such unless in 0.0 space.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:29:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Izlea
Originally by: SiJira
appearances can be deceiving - can we stop with the manipulation threads?
With all the respect, what do you mean by this ? I posted the chat log as a proof , CCCP INC said they will war dec me. I do not intend to do any manipulation here. Also, i do not know any of the CCCP INC. I just feel weird because a corp claimed controling a npc system. I have never heard such unless in 0.0 space.
They (CCCP) just have big mouth, ignore them. But obviously, you should also watch your back when hauling stuff into that lowsec system. 
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:30:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Izlea
I just feel weird because a corp claimed controling a npc system. I have never heard such unless in 0.0 space.
I just think it is ironic that someone else asked you to "Comply or Die". (That is your other pvp corp yes?)
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:31:00 -
[23]
Which trial account newbie school is closest? I think 3 more starting traders would do well to go out there.... dont you? :)
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Kiyoseki
One-Trick Pony Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:38:00 -
[24]
I believe that the nearest schools are Amarr factions.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 19:57:00 -
[25]
The op contacted me and after a bit of struggling over our language differences two things of concern became apparent to me:
First - The original title and word usage may have been misleading. The op's intent was to share this odd happenstance. He was trying to "share" and was open to any opinions.
Secondly - The op also fears that my listing a negative possibility in my list of potential incentives was my way of saying the the op was some sort of bad guy or pirate. That is not so. I don't know one way or the other so I presume he is not.
This addition just underscores the fact that the forums can be confusing as English is the standard, just not the fluent medium for everyone.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:02:00 -
[26]
Ive spent years protecting traders and miners alike, its amzing when i ask somone not to sell items out of a single station backwater system i get an atitude then the little F$3er tries to charge me double for the module. I dont really care what all you traders say but we at CCCPi have been defending mofa for years giving the little guy a place to be without constantly watching over his shoulders for pirates.
Now we have idoits who have nothing better to do then play this game sit in station and make isk becuase they are to lame or stupid to actually accomplish anything, my goal in this situation, is to limit traffic yes for the safty of the people who operate in this space but if you morons want to judge this sitation by a conversation i had with a twit with an attitude, because he was to lame to move a 10.0m3 module over 1 jump for the benfit of the many people who operate here. Then your as stupid as he is and when a bunch for greifer pirates war decc your mining corp for fun i hope they ruin yer gameplay.
but it amazes me how so many of you could jump on the bandwagon of just being annoying because you have nothing better to do. And for Anthen Wilkilya you say you shredded us oh how full of it you are, if you think you did or ever could please bring it on. id love to show u how wrong you are.
If you people wish to harrass us and the miners and peaceful citezens we protect in amarr space by just being annoying then do your worst. We have more important things to do like provide a safe local for the people of mofa so think of them when you commit your crimes under your guise of arrgogant payback.
do your worst because compared to pirates your all pretty pathetic. just a bunch of lame disgruntled traders with nothing better to do than feel powerful becasue yer all to lame to undock and play the game, isk hungry, merc hiring weaklings. Its days like this im glad pirates exist they give me a reason to defend good people and a reason to laugh at the idiots who get war decced like you guys and griefed.
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Abrynn
Minmatar
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:03:00 -
[27]
Anthen Wilkilya from The Wilkilya Institute of Pwnancy (hold on gotta laugh at the ******ed corp name) who the hell are you again cause for someone that chopped us up i sure dont remember ya but if you come back ill be sure to add u to our KB's with the rest :)
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:14:00 -
[28]
I hate to say something about Russians not quite 'getting' capitalism, but there you go.
If people buy a module for 2x the normal price... 
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:15:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Izlea on 06/09/2008 20:16:40
Hi,
What i really do not get the idea is , i am just asking CCCP INC to buy a module for 1mil ( i am trader ofc i sell high for profit ) but instead CCCP want to war with me. Thats why i am here, i want know what other people think.
Is it wrong for me to ask a higher price when i was asked to not to trade in certain npc area.
thank you.
edited** add some more words
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:16:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: R3DSKULL
oh yer a brillaint one, amazingly useless sort i see.
Well as a bit of help might I suggest you practice your arithmetic, 78,273 != 24,000. More helpful?
you definatly are what we call a useless pimple on the ass of humaity. you should try being a pirate, with yer intelligence i bet you would do astounding.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:17:00 -
[31]
Not knowing the OP or the frustrated system defender, let me just ask...
Red you wanted the item moved, yet you say you protect the system from ALL outsiders. Isnt that like saying "come move your junk and by the way we will pod you"
Buy the darn item with the information you seek (buy the info basically) of the person selling in your system illegally or suffer the persistence of professional traders (I just dabble but it sounded like you needed to be reminded this is a "free" sandbox game.)
Traders will rip each other up over market PVP, the size of your guns do not really matter yet the equipment to list where it is forbidden and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the challenge is sweet to the most hardened of traders.
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Keen2KillU
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:18:00 -
[32]
Well i must agree with CCCP Inc on this subject. They spend alot of times keeping Mofa a safe environment for newer players to mine, run missions and market trade. Over the past years they have cleaned up the area for the newer player sake and brought a good name to the Anti-pirate cause.
I feel his mail to you was justified and polite asking you to please not sell anything there which will attract pirate wannabe's to the area and interfere with newer players life. All you have to do is go there and remove the items from sale and sell them 2 jumps away, not a big ask. Also you will probably find you will get more sales from somewhere like Amarr where most people in the area go shop.
Personally i want to slap you myself for causing a major issue out of this and cause termoil in a safe area for newer players. Obviously you are just a self centered weiner and got you head stuck up your own butt hole. Dude just go there and remove the items for your own sake as you don't want them to war dec you and ruin your game play. Believe me i know if you get war dec'd it wont be for a couple of weeks long it will be months and months till you beg for forgiveness.
Just do whats right and shift the items and all this will go away.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:18:00 -
[33]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
dribble
Man that just makes me want to control your systems market, seriously.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:18:00 -
[34]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
you definatly are what we call a useless pimple on the ass of humaity. you should try being a pirate, with yer intelligence i bet you would do astounding.
If that's your best, it is good that grade school started back up for you. Call me when you grow up. That's "good bye - have a nice life" if you didn't understand it. You don't rate on my worry meter.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:20:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Izlea
Hi,
What i really do not get the idea is , i am just asking CCCP INC to buy a module for 1mil ( i am trader ofc i sell high for profit ) but instead CCCP want to war with me. Thats why i am here, i want know what other people think.
thank you.
1. why would i want to buy a module for 1mil that sells for 590 all over the market, you are a ripoff artisst
2.Why would i want to buy a module that drops for free on rats,
3.why should i let u disturb the peace for your profit? since you dont even play as you say you just sit in station making isk to start at, another completely usuless waste of 15 bucks.
4. i asked you to move it 1 jump but yer to lazy to do that,instead u want assert you right to screw everyone else and ripp everyone off.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:21:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Athre
Not knowing the OP or the frustrated system defender, let me just ask...
Red you wanted the item moved, yet you say you protect the system from ALL outsiders. Isnt that like saying "come move your junk and by the way we will pod you"
Buy the darn item with the information you seek (buy the info basically) of the person selling in your system illegally or suffer the persistence of professional traders (I just dabble but it sounded like you needed to be reminded this is a "free" sandbox game.)
Traders will rip each other up over market PVP, the size of your guns do not really matter yet the equipment to list where it is forbidden and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the challenge is sweet to the most hardened of traders.
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:22:00 -
[37]
Dear Ebank, I think I am going to need to withdraw all my current funds. Just a heads up, giving you all notice.
I think I need to buy up the whole Zanka market and relist everything at a 200% mark up.
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Attack Fridge
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 -
[38]
Its pretty simple Izlea MOVE YOUR SH*T and follow the rules or get whats coming to you.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: R3DSKULL
dribble
Man that just makes me want to control your systems market, seriously.
please bring and sell al yer good in faswiba i dont want anyone selling in faswiba, bring it all control my market yes MY MARKET THE TRADER PVPER YES THATS ME<
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 -
[40]
I just don't see how selling a newb a mining laser is wrong.
They have ISK; I have goods. Everyone leaves happy.
I mean, it's no workers' paradise, but at least he ends up with means of production. 
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 -
[41]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
Originally by: Athre
Not knowing the OP or the frustrated system defender, let me just ask...
Red you wanted the item moved, yet you say you protect the system from ALL outsiders. Isnt that like saying "come move your junk and by the way we will pod you"
Buy the darn item with the information you seek (buy the info basically) of the person selling in your system illegally or suffer the persistence of professional traders (I just dabble but it sounded like you needed to be reminded this is a "free" sandbox game.)
Traders will rip each other up over market PVP, the size of your guns do not really matter yet the equipment to list where it is forbidden and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the challenge is sweet to the most hardened of traders.
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
why would i need to move the items im trading to amarr ? i dont like hauling at all. and i love my style of trading now.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Treelox
Dear Ebank, I think I am going to need to withdraw all my current funds. Just a heads up, giving you all notice.
I think I need to buy up the whole Zanka market and relist everything at a 200% mark up.
no no you have it wrong its faswiba i dont want the market in.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:24:00 -
[43]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
Originally by: Athre
Not knowing the OP or the frustrated system defender, let me just ask...
Red you wanted the item moved, yet you say you protect the system from ALL outsiders. Isnt that like saying "come move your junk and by the way we will pod you"
Buy the darn item with the information you seek (buy the info basically) of the person selling in your system illegally or suffer the persistence of professional traders (I just dabble but it sounded like you needed to be reminded this is a "free" sandbox game.)
Traders will rip each other up over market PVP, the size of your guns do not really matter yet the equipment to list where it is forbidden and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the challenge is sweet to the most hardened of traders.
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
NO....thats where you want it sold, not where it "should" be sold.
If you wish to control anything I think you need to go create your own MMO. In the meantime can you tell me what the current demand is in Zanka for assorted items, so I can make sure I screw up your ebil anti capitalist dictatorship?
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Anthen Wilkilya
Gallente
The Wilkilya Institute of Pwnancy
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:24:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Abrynn
Anthen Wilkilya from The Wilkilya Institute of Pwnancy (hold on gotta laugh at the ******ed corp name) who the hell are you again cause for someone that chopped us up i sure dont remember ya but if you come back ill be sure to add u to our KB's with the rest :)
I don't know.. i think it's a pretty righteous corp name. Of course naming a corp after the most significant failure in modern history when it comes to a misguided attempt build a society while controlling and oppress the masses shows incredible creativity. I was gonna name it "Corruption and Vodka, Inc." but figured you'd probably be wanting it for your next corp.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:25:00 -
[45]
/me places everything i ever wanted to sell on market for spiteful traders becasue they dont realise this is a ploy to get you to buy all our stuff. Woot such suckers, thanks Izlea good work 
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:26:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Attack Fridge
Its pretty simple Izlea MOVE YOUR SH*T and follow the rules or get whats coming to you.
:( this is one of the reasons i post a thread in MD. i should play the game as i like. i dont think i have to follow the rules. also , the system u claimed u r controlling is belong to NPC which is Amarr.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:26:00 -
[47]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: R3DSKULL
dribble
Man that just makes me want to control your systems market, seriously.
please bring and sell al yer good in faswiba i dont want anyone selling in faswiba, bring it all control my market yes MY MARKET THE TRADER PVPER YES THATS ME<
Care to rephrase that, so a native english speaker can understand what the devil your on about?
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:26:00 -
[48]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
What is to stop you from killing the tradesperson WHILE they are moving it if they even have any piloting skills beyond newbie frigate?
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Keen2KillU
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:28:00 -
[49]
Thats fine Izlea you keep thinking that whilst you get perm war dec against you, end of you eve life lol
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:28:00 -
[50]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
Originally by: Treelox
Dear Ebank, I think I am going to need to withdraw all my current funds. Just a heads up, giving you all notice.
I think I need to buy up the whole Zanka market and relist everything at a 200% mark up.
no no you have it wrong its faswiba i dont want the market in.
Ill make it simple then for you, I'll work at controlling the markets in Zanka, Hayumtom, Faswiba and just incase your ego is that big, Bagodan as well.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:31:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: R3DSKULL
Originally by: Treelox
Dear Ebank, I think I am going to need to withdraw all my current funds. Just a heads up, giving you all notice.
I think I need to buy up the whole Zanka market and relist everything at a 200% mark up.
no no you have it wrong its faswiba i dont want the market in.
Ill make it simple then for you, I'll work at controlling the markets in Zanka, Hayumtom, Faswiba and just incase your ego is that big, Bagodan as well.
yes yes your so smart what is this channel again, marketing this marketing plan is working wonder cheers izlea your idea worked perfect. you were right on they bought right into it :) please, please, come control the markets :) exactly what we wanted all along... There was a great man who was it barnum baily he said there is a sucker born everyday.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:32:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Athre
Originally by: R3DSKULL
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
What is to stop you from killing the tradesperson WHILE they are moving it if they even have any piloting skills beyond newbie frigate?
The fact that's it's low-sec, not 0.0, and the market probably isn't big enough to require large-sustained-m3's of haulage?
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
Kvander Godalming
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:33:00 -
[53]
Sorry, I'm not following--
How is it in the interests of new players for a corp to strictly forbid the sale of items in a given system?
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Old Hermit
Schmucks
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:34:00 -
[54]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
yes yes your so smart what is this channel again, marketing this marketing plan is working wonder cheers izlea your idea worked perfect. you were right on they bought right into it :) please, please, come control the markets :) exactly what we wanted all along... There was a great man who was it barnum baily he said there is a sucker born everyday.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:39:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Athre
Originally by: Ramblin Man
Originally by: Athre
Originally by: R3DSKULL
move it to amarr. thats where stuff should be sold.
What is to stop you from killing the tradesperson WHILE they are moving it if they even have any piloting skills beyond newbie frigate?
The fact that's it's low-sec, not 0.0, and the market probably isn't big enough to require large-sustained-m3's of haulage?
Low sec = free kill zone
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Ah, thought you were arguing the other way (that it'd be difficult to supply since it was low-sec). Low sec = no bubbly fun, so not too hard to sneak a Probe or whatever low-SP craft you want through.
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:42:00 -
[56]
Well it doesn't take long for information to shake out of Eve does it? So, I present to you all what CCCPI is talking about. Quote:
we hope you enjoy a safer environment and being part of the mofa community. please inform your people of our basic rules and the treaty of mofa.
1.no pvp pirating.
2.No mining in zanka. we dont ask payment, for our commitment to fight pirates so we ask these minerals be reserved for our recovery of ship losses and payment for our long effort in making mofa safer for the common podkateer. Mining is welcome in all mofa systems. But be weary in galeh as it is not patrolled frequently. No mass corp strip mining. in an effor to share the resources we ask corps not be greedy and limit there mining to no more than 1 belt stripped per week. And we prefer if people mine for individual ventures but we understand if a corp has need to operate together. while industrial corps with large numbers of industrialists will be monitored and regulated so to maintain balance for all of the community.
3.No selling from station in zanka, Please keep sales to hayumtom or faswiba stations. we like to keep the reason to enter Zanka to a minimum, so no product sold means nothing to buy. no anchoring of cans in zanka, we do not mind cans anchored in other systems but please do not litter its offensive. Pos;s may not be placed without permission. in any system in mofa.
4.Always be polite in local. politeness goes a long way and remember the people who are defending you are doing it for nothing so politeness and freindship and respect go a long way.
exploration is limited. As gravametric sites in zanka are offlmits and considerd mining. All other exploration sites are fine and allowed. we prefer if no mining vessles enter zanka for any reason.
As time goes on and you and your corp are more well known you will be privaleged to intelligence channels for your safty and the betterment of the community. We ask when you operate in the area you refrain from ever giving away information in local about freindly camps, ships fleet sizes or what player is in what ship.
If you ever come under attack in faswiba please follow these instructions.
Specify what belt you are in accuratly. Becasue if we dont know which belt your in we cannot get to you. Secondly specify what ship the enemy is in when calling for help.
Do not lock other players ships as this is a sign of aggression. report wars you have and will be in the area so the community may know who you are warring with for yours and there safty. This are operates under NRDS polocy which means Not Red dont shoot. Antipiracy is strictly enforced.
for diplomatic contact and all other realated issues contact R3DSKULL,or Kusariqqu
So I guess the real question is: can communism exist, and be forced upon, a capitalist environment?
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:46:00 -
[57]
I decided I don't like CCCP INC and their 3 years of control of Zanka so I am going to hire mercs to pop em.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:48:00 -
[58]
It's not quite communism. They're clearly being paid (Zanka) for their efforts (patrolling the constellation). The no-modules rule is f'king odd, though.
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:51:00 -
[59]
Quote:
we hope you enjoy a safer environment and being part of the mofa community. please inform your people of our basic rules and the treaty of mofa.
2.No mining in zanka. we dont ask payment, for our commitment to fight pirates so we ask these minerals be reserved for our recovery of ship losses and payment for our long effort in making mofa safer for the common podkateer. Mining is welcome in all mofa systems. But be weary in galeh as it is not patrolled frequently. No mass corp strip mining. in an effor to share the resources we ask corps not be greedy and limit there mining to no more than 1 belt stripped per week. And we prefer if people mine for individual ventures but we understand if a corp has need to operate together. while industrial corps with large numbers of industrialists will be monitored and regulated so to maintain balance for all of the community.
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exploration is limited. As gravametric sites in zanka are offlmits and considerd mining. All other exploration sites are fine and allowed. we prefer if no mining vessles enter zanka for any reason.
The rules contradict themselves.
So who can mine in Zanka?
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:51:00 -
[60]
Well, I was going to ignore this but then r3dskull convinced me otherwise. One more newbie trade alt has been dispatched to Zanka.
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:54:00 -
[61]
I wonder if they're hiding something sexy like good moons or a complex.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:56:00 -
[62]
I hope they have towers up!
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blackstone
Amarr
Greater Eve Trading Company
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:57:00 -
[63]
I read the recent post and chat based on this event. I for one would like to set some of the record straight here. I am a long term player, I go back to the beginnings of this game. I have set up offices in the Mofa constellation because I enjoyed working with and interacting with those people. In my dealings with CCCP they have always been fair and honorable. In all that time they have sacrificed for the greater good to provide a safe haven for players especially those just starting out in game. Sure they don't tolerate pirates and there are rules to follow but what makes them any different than one of the larger alliances. They have spent many hours, blood, sweat and tears to carve out a niche in this game as they beleive EVE should be played. They have defended that right time and again as they see fit. They have not been nor ever will be a group of bullies in my book. There are alot of people in the Mofa constellation who feel this same way. We will die to defend our right in this matter. You would ask why for a system or constellation that is stuck in the corner of the Amarr empire and has no strategic value. Because we care and beleive in in the things CCCP stands for. It is a matter of honor and trust and the support that has been given. Thank You
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Ulecese
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Posted - 2008.09.06 20:59:00 -
[64]
Its likely that they either have or are protecting a large POS operation in and around that location and don't want 'unnecessary attention' brought to those systems.
Given the tone of his 'demands' I would give him the middlefinger tbh and go right ahead and setup as many sell and buy orders as possible...
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:04:00 -
[65]
Jesus people, do your research.
It takes 2 seconds to see that they're 0.4 before you make 'ZOMG! MOONS!' comments.
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:07:00 -
[66]
Originally by: cosmoray
I decided I don't like CCCP INC and their 3 years of control of Zanka so I am going to hire mercs to pop em.
bring your mercs, bring your trader noobs you cant harm us all you could do is harm the innocents of mofa which we will fight to protect. We dont have anything to hide in zanka its quite empty. no poses im sorry no assets to lose nothing for enemies to pop, sadly for you and yer mercs. So do your worst your sorry litte weaklings and realise you only stand to harm those who dont deserve it and show that even traders are nothing but filthy pirates with a simple lack of understanding, of the realities of eve.
I havent been camped in station in years so i cannot wait to see these mercs.
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Kusariqqu
Gallente
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:14:00 -
[67]
Ok lets get this straight. We protect Mofa and have done for a long time now. Ask any1 who lives in this area or lives around the area and see what they have to say for the work we do. When we moved in these systems were a no go area to any1 who didint pirate, it was full of -10's and we cleared them all out and made the space the place it is today, which to every one who isnt Red or an ******* a safe place to live.
For some 1 who says we tlk alot of smack and dont take any actions your quiet a hypocrit arnt you Izlea, We asked politley to move your gear one jump over and sell it there at what ever price you see fit, but u has to be arrogant and pick a fight about it. So u got one and its that simple.
And if u sit in station all day and trade well im sorry but you epicly fail in this game, you have more worth sat in station than those npc haulers who cant even go into warp, whats the point??
So for the rest of you who want to jump on this asshats band wagon and come down to mofa i will glady welcome you with open arms and and kick you out just as fast.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:16:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Athre
The rules contradict themselves.
So who can mine in Zanka?
no they do not contradict themselves. Just poor grammer. Only CCCP may mine in Zanka belts or Grav sites. That is their "Fee" for protecting everyone else in the low sec backwaters that make up Mofa(Galeh, Faswiba, and Zanka).
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:19:00 -
[69]
Edited by: R3DSKULL on 06/09/2008 21:20:20
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Athre
The rules contradict themselves.
So who can mine in Zanka?
no they do not contradict themselves. Just poor grammer. Only CCCP may mine in Zanka belts or Grav sites. That is their "Fee" for protecting everyone else in the low sec backwaters that make up Mofa(Galeh, Faswiba, and Zanka).
we dont mine we are pure pvp. so that point is moot, why we do what we do? move down and find out what we do. When i bail your ass out from a pirate or pay one back who killed you, your tune will change real fast.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:19:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Athre
The rules contradict themselves.
So who can mine in Zanka?
no they do not contradict themselves. Just poor grammer. Only CCCP may mine in Zanka belts or Grav sites. That is their "Fee" for protecting everyone else in the low sec backwaters that make up Mofa(Galeh, Faswiba, and Zanka).
They state mining is welcome in all Mofa systems and then turn right around and state mining in Zanka (a Mofa system) is forbidden.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:23:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Treelox on 06/09/2008 21:25:35
Originally by: Athre
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Athre
The rules contradict themselves.
So who can mine in Zanka?
no they do not contradict themselves. Just poor grammer. Only CCCP may mine in Zanka belts or Grav sites. That is their "Fee" for protecting everyone else in the low sec backwaters that make up Mofa(Galeh, Faswiba, and Zanka).
They state mining is welcome in all Mofa systems and then turn right around and state mining in Zanka (a Mofa system) is forbidden.
Other way around, read rule#2 again.
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broken quote mechanic fixed
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:24:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Ok lets get this straight. We protect Mofa and have done for a long time now. Ask any1 who lives in this area or lives around the area and see what they have to say for the work we do. When we moved in these systems were a no go area to any1 who didint pirate, it was full of -10's and we cleared them all out and made the space the place it is today, which to every one who isnt Red or an ******* a safe place to live.
For some 1 who says we tlk alot of smack and dont take any actions your quiet a hypocrit arnt you Izlea, We asked politley to move your gear one jump over and sell it there at what ever price you see fit, but u has to be arrogant and pick a fight about it. So u got one and its that simple.
And if u sit in station all day and trade well im sorry but you epicly fail in this game, you have more worth sat in station than those npc haulers who cant even go into warp, whats the point??
So for the rest of you who want to jump on this asshats band wagon and come down to mofa i will glady welcome you with open arms and and kick you out just as fast.
My question to u , did i asked nicely for u to buy my item ? and did i offer u nicely the infomation about the seller that u want ?
i said i cant / wont move the item and i asked u to buy it ( plus the infomation ), but u smack talk to me.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:25:00 -
[73]
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:28:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Izlea
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Ok lets get this straight. We protect Mofa and have done for a long time now. Ask any1 who lives in this area or lives around the area and see what they have to say for the work we do. When we moved in these systems were a no go area to any1 who didint pirate, it was full of -10's and we cleared them all out and made the space the place it is today, which to every one who isnt Red or an ******* a safe place to live.
For some 1 who says we tlk alot of smack and dont take any actions your quiet a hypocrit arnt you Izlea, We asked politley to move your gear one jump over and sell it there at what ever price you see fit, but u has to be arrogant and pick a fight about it. So u got one and its that simple.
And if u sit in station all day and trade well im sorry but you epicly fail in this game, you have more worth sat in station than those npc haulers who cant even go into warp, whats the point??
So for the rest of you who want to jump on this asshats band wagon and come down to mofa i will glady welcome you with open arms and and kick you out just as fast.
My question to u , did i asked nicely for u to buy my item ? and did i offer u nicely the infomation about the seller that u want ?
i said i cant / wont move the item and i asked u to buy it ( plus the infomation ), but u smack talk to me.
we didnt want to buy yer module and if you reread i offed to move it for you and i wouldnt have charged you a cent. I would have helped you out with no personal gain. And again like i asked in our recent convo when have you ever stuck your neck out for another? when have you ever put your ships on the line for others and asked for nothing in return. i doubt ever. Cant do that sitting in station collecting isk now can ya?
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R3DSKULL
Amarr
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:29:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
hmm seems yer pretty daft why dont you reread rule 2 it quite clearly explains why we request people dont mine in zanka. Funny how you overlook that. To make an invalid point eh.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:30:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
Like I said poor grammer, was used in the rules. They give the exception before the rule, so it makes perfect sense. No contradiction, your just used to exceptions coming after a rule, hence the poor grammer thingy.
My understand of this implied exception comes from years of fluent ESL and dealing with idiots.
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:32:00 -
[77]
I had a fly around Zanka, I was only 1 in local. There are some very nice Kernite and jaspet roids in the belts though.
Not to far from a mission system either to sell at 200 a unit!
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Iyara
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:33:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
Hi i am a local in mofa and i have lived there almost all my life, the only reason that they ask for nuthing to be sold in zanka is to cut down on traffic there's no POS's because of ******s like yourself that say there is a POS lets get it blown up you are free to look there arent and in fas or zanka. As for mining in zanka they simply dont want the traffic, why must you cause trouble for all of us you can ask the local most came here as a haven when they got griefed and war dec'd and they were protected. Why do you want all of our corps to suffer we are mostly miners i just dont get it all over your stupid module. Why couldnt you do as 100's have done before and say aye np thanks for being polite, But in stead u bring in pirates so now we cant play thank you so much  
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:38:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Iyara
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
But in stead u bring in pirates so now we cant play thank you so much
Yeah geez athre you pirate.....
:P
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:45:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Athre on 06/09/2008 21:46:08
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Iyara
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
But in stead u bring in pirates so now we cant play thank you so much
Yeah geez athre you pirate.....
:P
I know, its very amusing... lets see the kill board shows my deaths in
A MINING fited Apoc
A COVETOR
An IMPEL
yeah pirate for sure hahaha :D
Edit - was a Cov not a Hulk
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Iyara
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Athre
Edited by: Athre on 06/09/2008 21:46:08
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Iyara
Originally by: Athre
Tree - if there is no mining in zanka then the mining in all mofa systems is a lie.
If their people are free to mine in all of mofa, then they should be allowed in zanka as zanka is a part of mofa.
But in stead u bring in pirates so now we cant play thank you so much
Yeah geez athre you pirate.....
:P
I know, its very amusing... lets see the kill board shows my deaths in
A MINING fited Apoc
A COVETOR
An IMPEL
yeah pirate for sure hahaha :D
Edit - was a Cov not a Hulk
I didnt call u a pirate learn to read i said you bring pirates
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:54:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Iyara
I didnt call u a pirate learn to read i said you bring pirates
Learn to play?????
Cause living in a low sec dictatorship to mine Jasp and Kern is just sad these days, considering that Veld is king.
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Clair Bear
Coalition of Nations
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2008.09.06 21:55:00 -
[83]
Systems full of low sec miners, right next to an empire trade hub? This sounds too good to be true.
Ok, you've got me off my hairy duff in my comfy carebear cave, I'm shlepping 53 hops through alliance blob infested waters to check out this future ganking wonderland.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.06 22:08:00 -
[84]
Mofa Mustafar
"As you know... our blockade is perfectly legal."
Fixed. 
have love, willing to
give it industrially .CCPGinger |
Iyara
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Posted - 2008.09.06 22:08:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Clair Bear
Systems full of low sec miners, right next to an empire trade hub? This sounds too good to be true.
Ok, you've got me off my hairy duff in my comfy carebear cave, I'm shlepping 53 hops through alliance blob infested waters to check out this future ganking wonderland.
SEE WHAT U ******S HAVE DONE THIS IS A FKIN PIRATE YOUR PPL ARE SUCH ASS HOLES GGGRRRRRRRRRR I HOPE YOU GET GRIEFED AND KILLED AND PODED AND OMG U SUCK
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.06 22:10:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Iyara
But in stead u bring in pirates so now we cant play thank you so much
Yeah geez athre you pirate.....
:P
I know, its very amusing... lets see the kill board shows my deaths in
A MINING fited Apoc
A COVETOR
An IMPEL
yeah pirate for sure hahaha :D
Edit - was a Cov not a Hulk
I didnt call u a pirate learn to read i said you bring pirates
You learn to read, you said the OP brings pirates. I suggested bringing in newbie alt traders and offered to come join a mining gang. You implied that *I* am a pirate. Treelox knowing how severely this is untrue decided to poke some fun and I followed up with the types of ships I have been ganked in.
If I were a pirate (as the OP would have brought me and others into your system) would I not have been pvp killed in more suitable fighting ships?
Shar's constantly reminding me why I should not go into low sec even though I enjoy mining the low sec ores. So please dont tell me I need to learn to read or R Three D, that I am daft. Your rules may be in english but as was pointed out, you did not write them in english syntax.
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Dong Fu
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Posted - 2008.09.06 22:46:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Dong Fu on 06/09/2008 22:46:39
Wow, pathetic English skills aside...
I fail to see how making more items available to the people/noobs in the system is a bad thing.
But... if CCCP's sole concern was limiting traffic, nice job on taunting people on the forum (who did nothing more than provide their opinion on an ethical matter), resulting in them coming to scope out the situation.
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Joxxy
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Posted - 2008.09.06 23:02:00 -
[88]
Hmm ... interesting post.
I will have to keep your systems in mind for the next time I get bored and not know where to go ...
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.06 23:38:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Tasko Pal on 06/09/2008 23:38:39
Oh well, doesn't look like much to me. Not a POS in sight, only one interesting low sec agent (a level 5 two systems over), only three low sec systems (all 0.4 sec) in the entire constellation, the only stations in the entire constellation are accessable only by going through low sec, and not much in the way of belts. If someone finds an exciting use for sec 0.4 systems, then there's potential here, if you can make an arrangement with the locals.
Now I'm not a pirate, but aside from shooting at the CCCP guys, I can't imagine what you'd do in this place. Maybe try to break into the level 5 missions or shoot wimpy rats, I guess. Just doesn't strike me as a worthwhile place to hang out in. Maybe visit for a little excitement, but it's a bit out of the way.
I will say this. The locals are interesting. 
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Namco
Balls of Steel
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Posted - 2008.09.07 01:05:00 -
[90]
This thread.. is awesome.. for MD. :)
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CornerStoner
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Posted - 2008.09.07 01:46:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Iyara
Originally by: Clair Bear
Systems full of low sec miners, right next to an empire trade hub? This sounds too good to be true.
Ok, you've got me off my hairy duff in my comfy carebear cave, I'm shlepping 53 hops through alliance blob infested waters to check out this future ganking wonderland.
SEE WHAT U ******S HAVE DONE THIS IS A FKIN PIRATE YOUR PPL ARE SUCH ASS HOLES GGGRRRRRRRRRR I HOPE YOU GET GRIEFED AND KILLED AND PODED AND OMG U SUCK
The crying in this thread is epic! I wonder what items the local pirates are in need of in this area?
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Inoshuu
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.07 01:53:00 -
[92]
'grats to CCCP for inviting us to their system!
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.09.07 02:29:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Izlea
Again, forgive me if this post is wrong.
Silly of them putting a big target marker on that constellation for all those shooty shooty types. Nothing gets them all excited like someone saying we kill all pirates. Of course I said this much when you convoed me for some advice on the matter. I also pointed out the simple mechanics here: No targettable assets or pilots, war is pointless. If they wanted something, they offer something. Demands go nowhere and simply outs your sweet little carebear heaven. For all you pirates: That is ZANKA . Spelled with a Z. Many carebear uber alliance ass kickers there. Have fun. PS: Thanks for posting the chat log. Adds some spice considering the chat we had at the same time.
Hehe... way to overemphasize.. hehe... I might go there and sell a few ships or something....
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Antiquarian
Minmatar
Toxick Administration
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Posted - 2008.09.07 03:04:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Antiquarian on 07/09/2008 03:05:05
I just want to announce a PEW VERSUS PEW tournament.
It happens in Zanka.
It end in Zanka.
Start date: NOW
End date: NEVER
EDIT: PRICES: IMBA EPEEN AND BRAG RIGHTS
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Curator &
Chief Business Officer
ToxicK Administration
Brutor Tribe Treasury - Rens |
Kvander Godalming
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Posted - 2008.09.07 03:09:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Kvander Godalming on 07/09/2008 03:10:41
OK, seriously, I am unable to follow CCCP's thinking here.
They are beginning with the following axiom: that Zanka should be safe for newbies. Sounds reasonable.
Yet from this they logically derive a prohibition on selling or mining in that system? I would draw their attention to the definition of the phrase "logically fallacy" -- an inability to logically follow the causal order. Their B simply does not follow from their A.
What precisely are newbs supposed to do with their safety if not mine or sell?
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spanky herman
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.09.07 03:24:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Keen2KillU
Well i must agree with CCCP Inc on this subject. They spend alot of times keeping Mofa a safe environment for newer players to mine, run missions and market trade. Over the past years they have cleaned up the area for the newer player sake and brought a good name to the Anti-pirate cause.
I feel his mail to you was justified and polite asking you to please not sell anything there which will attract pirate wannabe's to the area and interfere with newer players life. All you have to do is go there and remove the items from sale and sell them 2 jumps away, not a big ask. Also you will probably find you will get more sales from somewhere like Amarr where most people in the area go shop.
Personally i want to slap you myself for causing a major issue out of this and cause termoil in a safe area for newer players. Obviously you are just a self centered weiner and got you head stuck up your own butt hole. Dude just go there and remove the items for your own sake as you don't want them to war dec you and ruin your game play. Believe me i know if you get war dec'd it wont be for a couple of weeks long it will be months and months till you beg for forgiveness.
Just do whats right and shift the items and all this will go away.
Keen2killU, apparently the market is missing some items so I will contract you a "clue". They don't own the station, they don't own the trader - the only control they can exercise is over their own bladders. I would recommend they abstain from ****ing into the wind - It tends to make your shoes wet.
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.09.07 03:37:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Tasko Pal on 07/09/2008 03:38:34
Ok, I lied. When I went there, they had this city, soldiers, and stuff. I thought, huh, these guys might be worth something. Certainly, my strut down the center of town must have impressed the locals.
So anyway, I made my corp's offer to their CEO: For a token bit of land and earth, we'd recognize their right to exist as an appendage of Heron Corporation might. For some odd reason, this got him upset. Next thing I know, he's yelling "THIS IS ZANKA!" and throwing me down some bottomless hole. I wake up in my usual medical center. OUCH.
Now I know the usual response is to send a million man army and crush all hope forever. But dang, that's a bit expensive. I think I'll send some snippy message instead. Smack is cheaper as we all know.
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Mogren
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 04:11:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Kvander Godalming
Edited by: Kvander Godalming on 07/09/2008 03:10:41
OK, seriously, I am unable to follow CCCP's thinking here.
They are beginning with the following axiom: that Zanka should be safe for newbies. Sounds reasonable.
Yet from this they logically derive a prohibition on selling or mining in that system? I would draw their attention to the definition of the phrase "logically fallacy" -- an inability to logically follow the causal order. Their B simply does not follow from their A.
What precisely are newbs supposed to do with their safety if not mine or sell?
Before everyone goes on a Jihad over a MWD marked up 200%, let me put a few points into perspective.
Every area of space in EVE has a finite amount of resources. Although Mofa has many belts and agents available for the community to use freely and prosper, we want to make sure that these resources are not completely drained and stripped. In order to preserve some of the resources and thus the livelihood of the area, we ask that only one system is off limits from mining. Mining is freely allowed in every other system, as are ratting, missioning, manufacturing, etc. By dedicating ourselves to the community and our home, we keep much of this area relatively safe as long as the inhabitants exercise common sense.
As traders, do you not expect some profit for your time and commitment to move and sell goods appropriately? Absolutely. By that same logic, should we not be allowed to reserve a few non-barren belts for our own mining while spending the day patrolling and protecting all other inhabitants over several other systems? I believe that is just.
If you would like to argue that we should do it for free and forget our livelihoods as well, then why are you not giving away your goods for free in local out of the goodness of your heart? Or perhaps be selling your goods for material cost after manufacturing them and hauling them 20 jumps? Everyone has a purpose and a job, and everyone needs to make a living. We have a solid community. There are a few rules to keep the peace. If you still have a strong desire to disrupt this peace, pay us a visit. It won't be the first time, nor the last.
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Finedele
Marquie-X Corp
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.07 05:03:00 -
[99]
what a weirdo thread. but well, i am amused!
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Trading Bunnz
Equatorial Industires
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2008.09.07 05:32:00 -
[100]
I needed somewhere to test out our new quick deployment/battle plans, sounds like just the ticket. :)
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Frank N'Beans
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Posted - 2008.09.07 05:46:00 -
[101]
Originally by: R3DSKULL
we dont mine we are pure pvp. so that point is moot, why we do what we do? move down and find out what we do. When i bail your ass out from a pirate or pay one back who killed you, your tune will change real fast.
Even though the rest of the thread is particilarly hilarious but if you don't mine then why the tough guy antics on "no mining in Zanka"?
And how exactly does this quote
Quote:
4.Always be polite in local. politeness goes a long way and remember the people who are defending you are doing it for nothing so politeness and freindship and respect go a long way.
jive with the entirety of R3dskull's first post? I understand their 'rules' mention local chat specifically but for someone so worried about 'politeness' his first post sure seems pretty hypocritical..
LOL.. I am tempted to create a new trader alt just to see how this bit of press affects your little fiefdom..
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Thorrak McFluffypants
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Posted - 2008.09.07 05:56:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Iyara
Originally by: Clair Bear
Win
Fail
Fixed.
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group
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Posted - 2008.09.07 06:03:00 -
[103]
Yawn, can we move this to CAOD? It just feels like it shouldn't be here.
Quote:
Ricdic (about starting ebank, July 2007): Think of it as a miniature EIB done right. I cannot see this getting anywhere near 700b any time in the future tbh.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.07 06:51:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Yawn, can we move this to CAOD? It just feels like it shouldn't be here.
I agree that this is more COAD however moving it there would lead to mass nuking of the thread. Moderators don't follow "when & where" posts were made so if it got moved to COAD... the subsequent action would be that everyone who chooses not to list a corp would be post facto moderated. For the guys in CCCP talking about how nice and kind they are: I agree. Kudos to you for the years that you were doing people a good thing. Sadly those days are gone when your CEO resorts to strong arming compliance. That isn't doing something good, that's just doing what you like because you believe you can. It is the behavior of tyrants. Since this is the market forum, we are probably going to ruin your markets. If this were C&P, we'd likely be flying around in local right now. One favorite tactic, the surgical recon striker. Love that one myself. Float around cloaked for hours and then come back, see local empty but for a miner here and there, and go about chasing people into the station. Then go back to floating around quiet. Tends to destroy the comfort zone of people real fast. See, Redskull mistakenly thought that just because some of us engage in capitalism that we do not pvp. It is a rare treat to see someone so loudly proving how clueless they are. See y'all in local.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Ava Santiago
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.07 07:18:00 -
[105]
I sense a "Free Market"
.. Reminds me that I need to finish getting my jump clones.
Concord doesn't provide consequences. Concord provides insurance payouts. |
Orvas Dren
Gallente
Stimulus
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Posted - 2008.09.07 07:37:00 -
[106]
Red, I wanted to point out that you are not only lacking in the common English skills to present a decent case, but you are also out of your mind if you think you can impose anything in EVE with just words.
When that system finally has your name under the listing of Sovereignty: I will take more of what you say seriously. In the mean time, understand that your attempts to scare us with permanent war-decs and killboard huffing and puffing only entices those of us with the years of experience. Years spent removing WoW type rabble such as yourself from systems and generally from the game.
You tried to stir the hornets nest and caused a stampede, prepare to get trampled.
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Inoshuu
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.09.07 08:33:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Inoshuu on 07/09/2008 08:33:57
Originally by: Ava Santiago
I sense a "Free Market"
.. Reminds me that I need to finish getting my jump clones.
Yeah? I don't recall the real life CCCP following free market principle, so why am I not surprised that these line of thinking is here?
But you know what? It would be interesting to see how a corporation impose a communism type of market.
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VatiKaki
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:24:00 -
[108]
I have played EVE now for about seven months, and all of it in Mofa. It is a nice system with great people looking after each other. For the protection and help that CCCPI provides, I have no problem with the few requests they have. Every once in a while a very courageous but stupid pirate will visit, get blown up and not come back again (Except for the really dumb ones). And without CCCPI helping in that regard, Mofa will be a nasty place. I think that Izlea totally over reacted, and is blowing everything out of proportion. Why anybody wants to sell anything in a system that is hardly ever visited, I do not understand, especially at the horendously inflated prices she asks. Just move the stuff and leave us alone to play the game we like the way we want to. And thanks again to CCCPI for all the support and help, we in Mofa really appreciate it.
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Vlam watBrand
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:36:00 -
[109]
Hi All. I am a trader and a newbie for the past three months. Fighting skills are about zero. I get podded every now and again when moving in and around "OTHER" systems. (I Like venturing into 0.0 and thats the price of it)
However, when running out of money frequently (while enjoying the game) I can rely on the CCCPi guys for protection in Moffa.
There have been so many times when I was saved(by a warningabout pirates or unknwons) (or revenged after a pirate did shot me down) by them, that I totally willing comply with their requirement on not mining and trading out of Zanka. From a Neighbour system this is not really affecting me. And since no selling is taken place there, they come to the Neighbour system (Faswiba) to buy. (good for all traders).
At the end of the day, they deliver an excellent service and I mucho apreciate their presence and strategy. You can try to run into one of the real pirate systems and you get killed without getting asked a question. At least in Zanka, you are free to roam and unless you proof to be a pirate (or disobey their rules) you will be safe.
Its human to want the things you can't have. Its also human to set rules for things you want to protect. (and like in any free country, if you dont like their rules... get out, and find one you DO like).
I will (with my little frigate and my small laser turret) defenitely side with CCCPi in any war that is declared against them.
Until then, I have some good shit for sale (very cheaply) in Faswiba).
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.07 11:44:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155
Yawn, can we move this to CAOD? It just feels like it shouldn't be here.
AC, i am sorry. i didnt meant this post to be like CAOD. My purpose is just to share what ive got and having some opinions here for what should i do and did i made the wrong decision.
TBH , if i want to make some more mess , i would rather post it in CnP instead MD. The starting of the post is ok ( from my point of view ) until CCCP arrived , smack talking and post with a bit rude attitude.
Again. Im sorry
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Kusariqqu
Gallente
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 12:42:00 -
[111]
You saying we are smack talking? You really are a fool arnt you.
All we have done is defend our position in this post and try to explain what we do and why we do it, and u call it smack??
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
So really other than you sticking your head into a hornests nest and you will get stung, you have done us a favor attracting more locals to come live and reside in our space, Thank you we couldnt have done a better job our selfs.
And for those of you who are going to come down and put stuff on the market, dont waste your time, its pointless and it wont sell. As as for ppl coming down to scan the moons to see if they have any good minerals ur fail on epic proportions, its a 0.4 numb nuts, only in 0.1 and below can you moon mine.
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Old Hermit
Schmucks
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Posted - 2008.09.07 12:54:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Kusariqqu
As as for ppl coming down to scan the moons to see if they have any good minerals ur fail on epic proportions, its a 0.4 numb nuts, only in 0.1 and below can you moon mine.
Epic, calling someone else numb nuts when prove you don't know what you are talking about either. In case reading is too difficult for you it was speculated that CCCPI is being the way it is to protect POS's. Who knows why the strong arm tactics are being used more importantly who cares?
I just know that I really don't care if it is a waste of time. I'm going to enjoy turning Zanka into a more robust market. I've also noted its location in the jump planner and with my skills, and other people's skills, it makes for a very very good way point.
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Danari
Syncore
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Posted - 2008.09.07 13:14:00 -
[113]
tldr;
When in doubt, wardec the peckerwoods :P
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.07 16:07:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Danari
tldr;
When in doubt, wardec the peckerwoods :P
here is your answer mate
Quote:
[ 2008.09.07 15:38:59 ] Izlea > 0/
[ 2008.09.07 15:39:25 ] Izlea > how can i help you ?
[ 2008.09.07 15:39:26 ] R3DSKULL > so that a nice rukus has been created i convo u to say are u sure u want me to click the war button, we can do this or not its yer choice mate?
[ 2008.09.07 15:39:52 ] R3DSKULL > what say you?
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:01 ] R3DSKULL > we can end this here now?
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:06 ] Izlea > ??
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:14 ] Izlea > u r the one that want the war
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:16 ] Izlea > not me
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:21 ] R3DSKULL > you asked for it?
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:29 ] R3DSKULL > you said bring it
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:41 ] R3DSKULL > i wanted u to move a module 1 jump or charge me a reasonable price for it
[ 2008.09.07 15:40:43 ] R3DSKULL > nothing more
[ 2008.09.07 15:41:08 ] Izlea > my offer stands as before
[ 2008.09.07 15:41:50 ] R3DSKULL > wait so u still want 1 mil for that module and thats that?
[ 2008.09.07 15:42:07 ] R3DSKULL > after all the hassle yer post has caused
[ 2008.09.07 15:42:12 ] R3DSKULL > and will cause the innocents
[ 2008.09.07 15:42:53 ] R3DSKULL > either way what would u like to do?
[ 2008.09.07 15:43:06 ] Izlea > is there anything else u want to talk about ?
[ 2008.09.07 15:43:36 ] R3DSKULL > so u dont care what happend your saying 1mil for module and thats all u will do to solve this issue?
[ 2008.09.07 15:43:55 ] Izlea > u dont have to manipulate ur words anymore
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:04 ] Izlea > if u want to go to war with me
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:05 ] R3DSKULL > manipulate?
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:06 ] Izlea > do it
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:12 ] Izlea > thats all
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:28 ] R3DSKULL > nah i dont but i will to prove a point
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:39 ] R3DSKULL > you need to follow the rules even i follow
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:44 ] R3DSKULL > and show respect
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:50 ] R3DSKULL > if u dont care to what can i do
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:52 ] Izlea > ur rules doesnt applied to me
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:54 ] Izlea > sorry ...
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:05 ] R3DSKULL > you only care about yourself
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:07 ] R3DSKULL > nothing else
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:20 ] Izlea > so , u cant force me to take ur rules ..
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:22 ] R3DSKULL > atleast i know that pirates are not only in combat clothing :)
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:27 ] Izlea > anything else u want to talk ?
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:33 ] Izlea > i would like to close in convo
[ 2008.09.07 15:45:37 ] R3DSKULL > that module was worth no more than 600k
[ 2008.09.07 15:48:16 ] Izlea > so, is there anything important u wanna talka bout ?
[ 2008.09.07 15:48:26 ] Izlea > i would like to close this convo
i am still waiting for the war dec.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:03:00 -
[115]
I think i am in love with BR3ADSKULL
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:08:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Edited by: Kusariqqu on 07/09/2008 13:00:51
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
Lol, its called alts...
I use them all the time, to get support on the forum.
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
thetwilitehour
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:08:00 -
[117]
It's pretty hilarious how the market discussion people in this thread are acting like bullies. Granted these guys written English skills are a bit lacking, but truthfully they set up an anti pirate area for new players to have a bit of freedom, and you all see that as somehow a threat or something? If they had some profitable enterprise and were acting like big mouthed jerks to defend it I could why you'd feel a need to act like going afk in a recon proves how tough you are.
Also a lot of people are making comments like "should've bought that 1m isk mod huh noob haha lolerskates" are you really stupid enough to believe that? The moment they commit to buying overpriced mods to keep the market bare, people will start seeding that market like crazy.
So really. You guys are pretty tough for picking on people who like to help new players. We're all real impressed.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:29:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Izlea
[ 2008.09.07 15:44:44 ] R3DSKULL > and show respect
LOL...almost sounds La Casa Nostra
Then agian I guess it sort of is a "protection" racket
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Kusariqqu
Gallente
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:36:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Edited by: Kusariqqu on 07/09/2008 13:00:51
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
Lol, its called alts...
I use them all the time, to get support on the forum.
Actually no, none of them are alts, if u come down to local and see there are there own ppl and play the game.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:40:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Ji Sama on 07/09/2008 17:40:21
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Edited by: Kusariqqu on 07/09/2008 13:00:51
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
Lol, its called alts...
I use them all the time, to get support on the forum.
Actually no, none of them are alts, if u come down to local and see there are there own ppl and play the game.
Says the alt, and dont worry i am on my way right now in my hauler...
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
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Kusariqqu
Gallente
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:48:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Ji Sama
Edited by: Ji Sama on 07/09/2008 17:40:21
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Originally by: Ji Sama
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Edited by: Kusariqqu on 07/09/2008 13:00:51
There have been several posts now from ppl who live in the area we police/protect and not one of them have had a bad word to say against us, and since this forum post has gone up, myself and my ceo have been getting mails from people asking to come live in MOFA under the defence of us anti-pirates in the area.
Haha how am i an alt?? ive only ever posted with this one character.
Come down n haul be my guest
Lol, its called alts...
I use them all the time, to get support on the forum.
Actually no, none of them are alts, if u come down to local and see there are there own ppl and play the game.
Says the alt, and dont worry i am on my way right now in my hauler...
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:51:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Kusariqqu
Haha how am i an alt?? ive only ever posted with this one character.
Come down n haul be my guest
there you go...
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
kingskin
Caldari
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 17:58:00 -
[123]
Yup fas local is blue,feel free to jump in
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Mogren
CCCP INC
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Posted - 2008.09.07 18:49:00 -
[124]
Originally by: thetwilitehour
It's pretty hilarious how the market discussion people in this thread are acting like bullies. Granted these guys written English skills are a bit lacking, but truthfully they set up an anti pirate area for new players to have a bit of freedom, and you all see that as somehow a threat or something? If they had some profitable enterprise and were acting like big mouthed jerks to defend it I could why you'd feel a need to act like going afk in a recon proves how tough you are.
Also a lot of people are making comments like "should've bought that 1m isk mod huh noob haha lolerskates" are you really stupid enough to believe that? The moment they commit to buying overpriced mods to keep the market bare, people will start seeding that market like crazy.
So really. You guys are pretty tough for picking on people who like to help new players. We're all real impressed.
Thank you thewilitehour. That sums up the situation well. Atleast a few sane people still browse these forums.
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:26:00 -
[125]
Bad form on the English comments, imo. You guys do know that not everyone happened to have English as a first language, non?
Let's see you make a post on a Russian forum before you nitpick about the grammar.
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Athre
Minmatar
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:34:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Ramblin Man
Bad form on the English comments, imo. You guys do know that not everyone happened to have English as a first language, non?
Let's see you make a post on a Russian forum before you nitpick about the grammar.
Unfortunately for the ESL crowd, CCP chose English as the language for the game.
I dont think its so much as a slam as it is a "fix your rules" suggestion.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.07 20:48:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
This addition just underscores the fact that the forums can be confusing as English is the standard, just not the fluent medium for everyone.
Athre and I agree to disagree on her position. I just figure that in most cases one should make allowances for any confusion that may arise when the common language is not the fluent one for either party. Besides, I pretty much don't all that much care about what happened with the OP. I just think the CEO of CCCPI made the drama much more, and the forum reaction much more, with his "in your face *****es" posting. No matter what you may think about the good some people do... there is always a negative reaction for unwarranted hubris. Just look at all the bs that goes in COAD. Not to be taken seriously but not to be taken lightly either. What a person says can, and usually will, be held accountable for what they say more than what they do. "F U all" is a fine attitude where warranted but it can also create unnecessary drama and bs for the person (people) that say it. That's just my $0.02.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
LordArcher
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Posted - 2008.09.08 02:14:00 -
[128]
As some one who is protected CCCPI and the Mofa Treaty, I'm very offend by you people trying to bring down and discredit them. They gave me a rat free environment where me and my Corp could mine in peace. People like you got my hulk and equipment destroyed. (By the way, the pirates who killed me, where in a anti pirate cooperation, and openly professed that they often commit piracy ) CCCPI is a great help to those who are trying to earn an honest living away from people who kill undefended players for the heck of it.
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Erimisha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.09.08 03:42:00 -
[129]
Originally by: LordArcher
As some one who is protected CCCPI and the Mofa Treaty, I'm very offend by you people trying to bring down and discredit them. They gave me a rat free environment where me and my Corp could mine in peace. People like you got my hulk and equipment destroyed. (By the way, the pirates who killed me, where in a anti pirate cooperation, and openly professed that they often commit piracy) CCCPI is a great help to those who are trying to earn an honest living away from people who kill undefended players for the heck of it.
If anyone has the 'right' to be offended it would be the MD regulars after your holy savior R3dskull posted this on the first page of this thread
Quote:
do your worst because compared to pirates your all pretty pathetic. just a bunch of lame disgruntled traders with nothing better to do than feel powerful becasue yer all to lame to undock and play the game, isk hungry, merc hiring weaklings. Its days like this im glad pirates exist they give me a reason to defend good people and a reason to laugh at the idiots who get war decced like you guys and griefed.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.09.08 04:23:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Erimisha
If anyone has the 'right' to be offended it would be the MD regulars after your holy savior R3dskull posted this on the first page of this thread
Quote:
do your worst because compared to pirates your all pretty pathetic. just a bunch of lame disgruntled traders with nothing better to do than feel powerful becasue yer all to lame to undock and play the game, isk hungry, merc hiring weaklings. Its days like this im glad pirates exist they give me a reason to defend good people and a reason to laugh at the idiots who get war decced like you guys and griefed.
He wasn't worth responding to. I'm never going to convince him that I'm out kicking ass on a regular basis so why bother? Even better, I should have tried to convince him that I get in real PVP as opposed to ransoming noobs and haulers only to run to an NPC station the moment a bigger blob shows up, that would have gone really easy. Trying to pound that through his narrow-minded head just isn't worth the effort and more importantly, it would have detracted from the comedy-gold this thread turned into.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 04:39:00 -
[131]
Originally by: VatiKaki
Just move the stuff and leave us alone to play the game we like the way we want to.
no, this game is not that. anyone can own you and knowing that you don't want to be owned makes people want you owned, just in case you cry
Originally by: Kusariqqu
You saying we are smack talking? You really are a fool arnt you.
^^ lol
don't tell us what we can and can't do. let us or stop us, that is all ...
/jobistaken = CCP =/= CCCPI
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:12:00 -
[132]
Funny thread. However, it does highlight a problem quite well. Say what you will about CCCP and their behaviour in this thread, but this whole mess goes to show that more market tools are needed. If a corp wishes to enforce a blockade on a system (at gun point if necessary) they should be able to do so without having to rely on greedy market 'griefers' (yay) following rules. It's definately something for CCP to take a look at.
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Ordon Gundar
Caldari
Kingfisher Industries
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:27:00 -
[133]
You cant hold a system for yourself unless you are able to enforce it. This system is ripe for a blockade runner frenzy and the saturation of the market.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 10:59:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
this whole mess goes to show that more market tools are needed. If a corp wishes to enforce a blockade on a system (at gun point if necessary) they should be able to do so without having to rely on greedy market 'griefers' (yay) following rules. It's definately something for CCP to take a look at.
In 0.0 I might be tempted to agree with you, but this is low sec. With NPC stations, not player outpost. It is still "empire" space.
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Jackie Fisher
Galactic Defence Consortium
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:04:00 -
[135]
There isnÆt a market in Zanka to saturate.
The reality is Zanka is a low-sec end system to a non-event branch that you need to travel through a couple of other non-event systems to get to. It is also not far from the hi-sec major trade hub of Amarr. There is no natural passing trade and anyone wishing to shop there would find it the same number of jumps to get to Amarr.
The locals are predominately æCCCPI friendlyÆ and do and will respect CCCPI wishes with regards to Zanka trading.
Whilst in terms of PR and diplomacy CCCPI may not have sparkled in this thread anyone under the impression that CCCPI are running a protection racket and gouging the locals via a closed market in Zanka is wrong. Essentially CCCPI are æpaidÆ for their efforts by leaving some rocks for them to mine or look at or whatever they do with them.
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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:10:00 -
[136]
Awesome thread is awesome.
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Maximillian Bayonette
White Lion Manufacture and Salvage
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:10:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Treelox
In 0.0 I might be tempted to agree with you, but this is low sec. With NPC stations, not player outpost. It is still "empire" space.
Well, as I understood CCP's intentions for the "open market" design as coupled with war mechanics, you where supposed to be able to enforce these kinds of things by force of arms. Given today's game mechanics, you can't, and I wish CCP would give us tools for this kind of warfare.
I hate to make RL comparisons, but competition is very prevalent in a capitalistic society, and you can use force to get a market monopoly. It's hard, but it's possible. By 'force' I'm not necessarily talking about weapons, but rather hostile takeovers and the like.
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Grandial
Qubicle Productions
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Posted - 2008.09.08 11:17:00 -
[138]
Can't we all just be friends?
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:32:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette
Well, as I understood CCP's intentions for the "open market" design as coupled with war mechanics, you where supposed to be able to enforce these kinds of things by force of arms. Given today's game mechanics, you can't, and I wish CCP would give us tools for this kind of warfare.
You can.. you can camp the stations and the gates ensuring that an embargo is held and nothing gets in or out. Remote buying and selling only will then effect the ones already in the system. If its an NPC station all orders are dealt with through brokers.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:54:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
You want to complain about buying and selling remotely through outposts then you have a legitimate debate
Which was my point earlier.
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Roguehalo
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.09.08 15:47:00 -
[141]
I once decided to take over the ship trade in a certain region and in doing so I upset the incumbent trader. He did all sorts of stuff including threatening to wardec me with his alliance.
I just told him to "f*ck off"
End of story
Hard to see why this thread ever started tbh
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:24:00 -
[142]
I can't believe I read most of this thread. I was sure that at some people someone would have mentioned how badly everyone is getting played here.
Talk about falling for the troll bait.
If you wanna send mercs at these guys, or if you wanna trade in their space, or if you wanna buy out all their stuff then do it, stop wagging your e-peens about saying you'll do it. You all sound like Danari, threatening all these horrible things when you all know you aren't really gonna do most of what you say and even if you do you won't have any negative effect on them.
I'm ashamed of the MD forum after reading this thread. I was sure many of the posters here had more intelligence than was shown in this thread. Wasting so much time with such a worthless issue. This entire thread should have never been started and everyone should have been laughing at the OP for his incredibly stupid first few posts.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.08 16:42:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Shadarle
If you wanna send mercs at these guys, or if you wanna trade in their space, or if you wanna buy out all their stuff then do it, stop wagging your e-peens about saying you'll do it. You all sound like Danari, threatening all these horrible things when you all know you aren't really gonna do most of what you say and even if you do you won't have any negative effect on them.
I'm ashamed of the MD forum after reading this thread. I was sure many of the posters here had more intelligence than was shown in this thread. Wasting so much time with such a worthless issue. This entire thread should have never been started and everyone should have been laughing at the OP for his incredibly stupid first few posts.
I went for a visit, and really fell let down by all the hype. The whole cluster was "meh", I was especially let down after all the bravado that R3dskull brought to this thread.
Real let down, either the thread was an outright troll for targets, or R3dskull has an even bigger ego than you Shadarle.
I mean that in the nicest way possible, Shadarle.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:19:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Shadarle
I can't believe I read most of this thread. I was sure that at some people someone would have mentioned how badly everyone is getting played here. Talk about falling for the troll bait.
I'm not the least bit ashamed. It was a slow weekend (on these forums) and OP & CCCPI made a funnier then usual thread. Kudos. Sorry the thread didn't live up to your standards though. We'll try to label threads as "worth Shadarle's time" or not in the future. To avoid you reading adhoc interweb randomz and wasting any of your valuable life.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:39:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Sorry the thread didn't live up to your standards though. We'll try to label threads as "worth Shadarle's time" or not in the future. To avoid you reading adhoc interweb randomz and wasting any of your valuable life.
Thanks, this would be most appreciated. You'll have to post early in a thread though and later edit the post with this information so I can quickly know to stop reading.
Thanks again, in advance!
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:47:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Shadarle
Thanks, this would be most appreciated. You'll have to post early in a thread though and later edit the post with this information so I can quickly know to stop reading. Thanks again, in advance!
We all live to please you my lord. Just ask any of the other voices you are obviously hearing.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.08 17:50:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Shar Tegral on 08/09/2008 17:50:18
WOW double post ftl.
Damn error 500.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.08 18:44:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
You want to complain about buying and selling remotely through outposts then you have a legitimate debate
Which was my point earlier.
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isdisco3
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.09.08 19:16:00 -
[149]
If I had like 4-5b I didn't care about, or some spare pos lying around my hangars, I'd totally go pos spam that system just to **** these morons off.
In Soviet Mofa, the modules sell YOU!
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2008.09.08 20:06:00 -
[150]
Originally by: SencneS
I post the following as an Individual and not a representative of EBANK, BSA, either of the organization's members or their affiliates.
This thread is indeed a great read, I really enjoyed reading it. Like Shad I am sorry to see some people in here acting the way they did, We clearly don't like communism on EVE, it just seems like a COAD thread to me.
To the OP, In all honesty there is nothing anyone can do to prevent you from selling in an NPC station. Even in 0.0. If you get the item there you have every right to sell it. You also have every right to BUY whatever is on the market.
Local politics in lowsec is "understood" politics. Backed up by the power of their military force. If they never catch you, you have nothing to worry about, with Risk comes reward. Clearly this system has an added risk that you need to keep away from CCCPI. So if you manage to get stuff there, you should charge a premium, because you KNOW no one else is selling stuff there.
Now for some "Local" advice...
To the CCCPI people in here, this forum is no COAD. In all honesty the people in here have more wealth, power, and connections then COAD and have enough ISK and knows ways of generating enough ISK to make your sanctuary a living hell until the server shuts down. Just as you don't want us ****ing in your back yard, don't come into ours and tell us we can't.
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Rudina
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.08 22:13:00 -
[151]
I have know CCCP for a very long time. Redskull is one of the friendliest and most helpful people I know. He and his corp have done much to provide a decent lowsec area for many corps. Since they are the protectors of that area, and they have the consent and cooperation of many locals, they are entitled to set guidelines for operating in that area. Is this so hard to accept?
One trader alt comes to MD and whines about it. According to the chat logs he was the one that started giving attitude. Yet the MD community supports this troll?
Lastly, by all means take your mercs and pirate alts to that area. You will be unpleasantly surprised. I can assure you that you do not want to get involved in a war with them and their allies. |
Weakmind
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Posted - 2008.09.08 22:21:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Rudina
I have know CCCP for a very long time. Redskull is one of the friendliest and most helpful people I know. He and his corp have done much to provide a decent lowsec area for many corps. Since they are the protectors of that area, and they have the consent and cooperation of many locals, they are entitled to set guidelines for operating in that area. Is this so hard to accept?
One trader alt comes to MD and whines about it. According to the chat logs he was the one that started giving attitude. Yet the MD community supports this troll?
Lastly, by all means take your mercs and pirate alts to that area. You will be unpleasantly surprised. I can assure you that you do not want to get involved in a war with them and their allies.
Yes because obviously, some miners running around in a shit lowsec/highsec constellation are EVER so scary. For a pirate, that area is rather silly to roam around in tho, its very limited and basically protected by highsec systems severely restricting movement.
TBH i doubt any serious pirate ever has stayed there for long. But by all means keep pretending that these "PVPAHS" actually have anything to protect you against.
Trying to restrict a market in a lowsec system is pretty damn hilariously stupid.
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.09.08 23:44:00 -
[153]
Originally by: SencneS
We clearly don't like communism in EVE-MD
Fixed that for ya.
Had the CEO of CCCPi come off a little less aggressive (and in turn his partners/minions/whateva), I'm doubting he would have received the attention he is getting and seemingly deserves.
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.09 02:13:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Chomin H'ak
Had the CEO of CCCPi come off a little less aggressive (and in turn his partners/minions/whateva), I'm doubting he would have received the attention he is getting and seemingly deserves.
^^/signed^^
R3dskull came in with attitude and ego, and started this thread on its path to hell.
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Sarah Paylen
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Posted - 2008.09.09 02:17:00 -
[155]
Miner 2's, Strip Miners, and even a Miner 1 is now on the market in Zanka! Buy it now!
I want to make isk to all the new people that will come mine in Zanka!
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isdisco3
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.09.09 02:20:00 -
[156]
Edited by: isdisco3 on 09/09/2008 02:21:23
still going, and still hilarious :D
Look.
No person has the right to claim that they are owed control of a system that they cannot get sov (using the in-game mechanics) over. Everything else is a joke and cannot be enforced in-game. Some group of russians claiming they're "owed" rights to a certain (crappy) system because they blew up a few pirates is hilarious.
Makes me wish I was a pirate again, I'd take some friends down there and show them a good time :)
edit - lol post above is win
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Rarnak Ki
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Posted - 2008.09.09 07:37:00 -
[157]
Originally by: blackstone
In all that time they have sacrificed for the greater good to provide a safe haven for players especially those just starting out in game.
You do understand this is EVE you are playing, right? And that this is the MD forum? Something about "sacrificing for the greater good" just doesn't jive with perhaps the most ruthless, competitive, and brutally capitalistic games ever made. I wouldn't expect any sympathy for your philosophy here.
Capitalism is based on the concept of mutual exchange to mutual benefit, not self sacrifice. Maybe someday a Communist space game will be made. If history is any indicator, I bet it will be even bloodier than EVE.
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.09 12:19:00 -
[158]
Originally by: SencneS
Now for some "Local" advice...
To the CCCPI people in here, this forum is no COAD. In all honesty the people in here have more wealth, power, and connections then COAD and have enough ISK and knows ways of generating enough ISK to make your sanctuary a living hell until the server shuts down. Just as you don't want us ****ing in your back yard, don't come into ours and tell us we can't.
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Izlea
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.09.10 03:33:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Shadarle
I can't believe I read most of this thread. I was sure that at some people someone would have mentioned how badly everyone is getting played here.
Talk about falling for the troll bait.
If you wanna send mercs at these guys, or if you wanna trade in their space, or if you wanna buy out all their stuff then do it, stop wagging your e-peens about saying you'll do it. You all sound like Danari, threatening all these horrible things when you all know you aren't really gonna do most of what you say and even if you do you won't have any negative effect on them.
I'm ashamed of the MD forum after reading this thread. I was sure many of the posters here had more intelligence than was shown in this thread. Wasting so much time with such a worthless issue. This entire thread should have never been started and everyone should have been laughing at the OP for his incredibly stupid first few posts.
Hi,
i think most ppl mistunderstood.
what i want is to share the experience , to tell other new traders that is this also a situation when u do trading.
its not like i would hire merc, or create chaos for CCCP Inc , i never intend to it.
im so sorry if this thread change like CAOD , i never meant this thread to be like this.
thank you
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Devian 666
Igneus Auctorita
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.09.10 05:01:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Rudina
I have know CCCP for a very long time. Redskull is one of the friendliest and most helpful people I know. He and his corp have done much to provide a decent lowsec area for many corps. Since they are the protectors of that area, and they have the consent and cooperation of many locals, they are entitled to set guidelines for operating in that area. Is this so hard to accept?
One trader alt comes to MD and whines about it. According to the chat logs he was the one that started giving attitude. Yet the MD community supports this troll?
Lastly, by all means take your mercs and pirate alts to that area. You will be unpleasantly surprised. I can assure you that you do not want to get involved in a war with them and their allies.
because smacktalking with an alt adds to a discussion.
All I can see in this thread is a whole heap of hurf blurf RP from redskull.
I recommend trading heavily in "their" systems for the tears and walls of dribbling text. Sounds like they need some decent free market competition.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.09.11 05:48:00 -
[161]
I've known CCCP for years on this character and others. R3d is from the east coast USA, so I think making fun of his grammar is acceptable since he's not a true Russian. :)
Also R3d loves to smack. He claims it helps him win fights. He made promises to me he never kept. You can read about them here.
He is constantly making foolish and nonsensical statements. He even talks crap about the people he fights with and makes fun of them. He lives a life of double standards.
If you really want to see him go nuts, don't bother decing his corp. Dec the other denizens of Faswiba and the surrounding areas. If you want to add to the annoyance factor, put in characters to Faswiba and sit them cloaked all day then pick off people as they do their thing.
All I can say is there is never any shortage of smack talk, accusations, bragging and poor grammar when it comes to R3d and his friends.
I also heard a rumor that CCCP dec'd someone's corp because they are an ex-boyfriend of R3d's current girlfriend, Abrynn, and R3d didn't like that guy missioning in the same system as his woman so he dec'd him. Now this is out in Nakri which is not Mofa. I can't verify the veracity of that rumor someone posted, but given R3d's propensity for outbursts and anger, I can definitely see it being true.
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Tazz ford2
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:00:00 -
[162]
lol this is pritty funny a 6 page post as what i c *****ing about 1 guy :P, wow this must be instresting to read (lets not), Im getting bord of hering all this crap where people are like oooo we kicked there ass oooo they killed us and then smacked us, at the end of the day its a game so come on down an lets have sum fun and i agree a good smack talk is pritty funny tho even if u are being camped in a station or camping the station brings a bit of life into the game ;p.
my regards to red
to the rest of u i salute u with the finger :)
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:16:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Tazz ford2
my regards to red
to the rest of u i salute u with the finger :)
/me feeling the love
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2008.09.16 04:14:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
I also heard a rumor that CCCP dec'd someone's corp because they are an ex-boyfriend of R3d's current girlfriend, Abrynn, and R3d didn't like that guy missioning in the same system as his woman so he dec'd him. Now this is out in Nakri which is not Mofa. I can't verify the veracity of that rumor someone posted, but given R3d's propensity for outbursts and anger, I can definitely see it being true.
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