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Moah
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:06:00 -
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I had lag as usual in such battles. Not more or less before the upgrade.
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Pelias
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:12:00 -
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Network lag and ISP have nothing to do with that!
In fact, EVE is incredibly lag proof - you can have bearable game experience even with 25% PACKET LOSS!
650 ms is uber ping, EVE isn't bloody Quake where you need ~50ms!
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:14:00 -
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Bottom line is its happening everywhere and id et my life its happening to 90% of the players. As said before we all cant have bad isps. im realtivly new to mmorpg games the few i have played have had lag it was never like this tho. I mean honestly id hate to say i lost every battle due to lag. sounds like a lame excuse. but so far every time i have lost a ship or was pk'd it was due to lag. and that really sux. My troubles with lag started with the server upgrades and i dont have an uberly 1337 pc. 
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
DingleBerry Bear
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:31:00 -
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what needs is a much much better level of detail system
Not just have the ships apear and disapear, have various models for each ship each with different polygon counts. The high poly ships should have the shading but the low poly ones should not. This is all about the cliant at this moment.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:36:00 -
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 Originally by: Arud
what needs is a much much better level of detail system
Not just have the ships apear and disapear, have various models for each ship each with different polygon counts. The high poly ships should have the shading but the low poly ones should not. This is all about the cliant at this moment.
agreed. its a joke also that when you have more ships stuck to you, its the equivelent of another small fleet your computer has to render..
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:54:00 -
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only lag i get , as far as i can tell, is caused by my computer. i have a p4 2.4 1 gig ram and a gf4 ti4600 , not the best system but should be able to handle eve decently. and it usually does, but when i enter systems with lots of people sittin at the gate, or when we are bs chaining, my computer locks for like 30 seconds, hard locks , memory usage shoots up super high, cpu usage shoots up to 100% and doesn't move, and u can hear it thinkin about something, tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick for 30 seconds to 1 min.  this has caused me to die more then once, warp in, get the lag, y hello thar nice pod.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:56:00 -
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imho the GPU's cant take it. They are making the lag.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.13 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tristan on 13/06/2004 12:42:52
Xziled, thats a perfectly good system to run a game like EVE. Its hardly going to put a strain on your machine or graphics card (IF the game wasnt full of bugs!)
Your system should be able to run much more graphicaly intense games such as UT or BF:V for example, never mind EVE.
However your "tick tick tick tick" problem is probably quite serious. Your hard drive is most likley dying, i would replace it ASAP and backup your data before it completly fails on you!
It could be something else but if it only happens at certain times like you said its your HDD. i cant tell for definate without actually hearing it for myself. while your at it clean all your fans out... if it still does it then its definately a hdd about to die.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.06.13 12:52:00 -
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tick tick tick... *me* gets terrible flashbacks... STOP USING YOUR PC NOW UNTILL YOU HAVE A NEW HD !!! Im serious though. Had this 2 times, lost a lotta data :(
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Perdita X
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Posted - 2004.06.13 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Perdita X on 13/06/2004 13:14:40
Xziled, buy a new hard drive, install your os and only then power up the old one and do some emergency backuping. Important stuff first, mp3's and porn last :p
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:09:00 -
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Seems I'll keep trying to stear clear of blobwars.
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Krusty TheClone
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:30:00 -
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But but all these new ships classes such as destroyers and battlecruisers are coming and mixed fleet battles are gonna be awesome. Your gonna have 10 frigs being engaged by the 10 Destroyers and then your 20 BS are gonna take out the 20 Cruisers on other side.
Im a nub, I cant wait for all these massive mixed fleet battles, its gonna be just being in the Navy
/sarcasm
Server upgrade done **** all, any battle of more than 20 vs 20 is COMPLETE LUCK
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:46:00 -
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and where r the devs? when r they gonna come out from the dark and say something?
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 16:44:00 -
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Well i hope CCP is reading this, because it affect us all, and the game we enjoy so much. Game is still choppy today, on my way from empire i blacksreened 3 times, with only 4k of players on server, and i was alone most of the times in the systems i travelled.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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TylerJames
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Posted - 2004.06.13 18:00:00 -
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Yeah this was crazy....my first experience in a really large battle...I had no lag when i jumped into the system..warped to a safespot to find out where needed. I then warped to the battle....a scene that was locked on my screen for at least 45 seconds...didnt see ships......just a sky FULL of missiles...then next frame i saw a megathron locked onto me...then i saw him fire on me....then i saw another shot..and then i was in a shiny pod..which i never saw..only could tell because the interface changed at the bottom....then the message that ship is out of control...then woke up in a clone station. maybe10-12 frames total were displayed over a 2 minute period. This is insane, and totally unplayable by me...and dont let them say its my PC stats either, because while a bit old my system is at least 4 times better than the minimum req. stated on the box....I never had this problem running 2 accounts mining or whatnot....or even smaller battles (40-50 ships) in the past. I really want to be active in the PVP aspect of the game....IF I am able to. Please fix this problem CCP...this many people from all over the world cant be wrong....the finances must be there to fix it.
~TJ
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.06.13 21:15:00 -
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as side note to this i was wondering how many people have expirienced an increase in client crashes due to their server node going off line?
as for the lag in the vast majority of cases it has to be server side, i guessing most here have a system more than capable of running eve, i myself have a 64bit ath 2gig of ram and a 9800pro, my connection has never been problem, its seems glaringly obvious that the recent hardware upgrade hasnt gone as smoothly as hoped and is causing a problem, most alliance players have seen action in large battles, and also have risked a jump in on a camp, we know risks and we decide to take them based on what we think is a chance of a victory, but atm there noone prepared to take that risk and who can blame them, i guess we have to hope things get better.
a little bit of info from ccp on the recent hardware upgrade and ongoing work/problems related to it would be nice tho, if only to give players encouragement to stick with eve and look forward to a less laggy expirience.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:06:00 -
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CCP does not care for people saying the performance is bad or good for a few, they are interested in CPU load, the load balancing on the servers and having an enviroment that is stable for the whole community. Even if that part only mine's and spends 50% of the time they play afk or using mining macro's.
Every battle over 20 players in the same grid still lags you to death, irrelevant is how much cpu, patches or servers are installed. The performance is still rather weak. Now i think most of us here can understand CCP having problems to get the new equipment running like it should, but a lack of communication is what upset most of us.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:46:00 -
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As I said before if CA and SA with a total of 50+ players on local agree to a cease fire, then there has to be something TERRIBLY WRONG !
Get it fixed please CCP, ASAP !
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:53:00 -
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UK2 anyone?
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.06.13 23:01:00 -
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Quote:
Important stuff first, mp3's and **** last :p
Dude, those are the most important things 
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CAPTmintor
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Posted - 2004.06.14 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:05:18
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:03:57
as long 20 pvp and under your fine not all ppl have gaming system at home ppl using geforce 3 64 mb cards
and some ppl using dail up have money for dsl are have cable in were they live at yet.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:18:00 -
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Originally by: CAPTmintor
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:05:18
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:03:57
as long 20 pvp and under your fine not all ppl have gaming system at home ppl using geforce 3 64 mb cards
and some ppl using dail up have money for dsl are have cable in were they live at yet.
No your not even small skirmishes 3v3 lags so horrible that one should think we where 10v10.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:23:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 09:05:55
Our guys got lagged in a 3 v 3  Have CCP decided to make a comment ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:45:00 -
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Awaites the reply from a GM?
"Atleast hey guys we are looking into it and will get back to the EVE community with an answer as soon as we have an explanation".
LAAG still bad even in situations that never ever been laggy before.
Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1.
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Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:24:00 -
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Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
Hmm not true. I have been around since day one in this game. I have always swered to Nvidia cards, never had any problems. My PC is a highend gaming machine.
I have been through all the patches, and i have played since beta.
When the community and most of the players in this tread are old timers say the lag has grown worse, try to listen instead of playing smart.
The lag has grown worse this last month. Situations that never have lagged before are showing up, even small skirmishes are lagging like its 50v50 players.
The Lag i experienced in UQ that night was very very bad ask around and you will see.
So instead of making smart trolling remarks, read the tread from the beginning and make a constribution.thx
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:37:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 09:42:00
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
Cardassius sorry mate but you dont know what your talking about in this case, did you bother to read the thread at all ?. This has nothing to do with client lag UNLESS to do with the way it connects to EVE. Alot of the complaints are also to do with small engagemants 6 ships and lower. Please comment when you have bothered to read up on the issue rather than make non constructive comments.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2004.06.14 10:33:00 -
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I have a Dual PIII-1gig, 1 gig (dual 512 sdram 2-2-2 speed reached 800mb/s)
Nvidia FX5900XT (aopen)
Used to have the kind of lag you guys describe. Maybe still have it. But after mem upgrade i was doing a lot better. In last major conflict CFS/SA vs CA i had some lag but ctrl-tab made it playable. After all this time only getting 3 frame pod trip in every battle i'm happy but otherwise i can imagine the lag to be frsutrating. And i wouldn't mind seeing CCP smarten VID and sound up.
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 13:08:21
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 10:53:39
Originally by: Raindrop
I have a Dual PIII-1gig, 1 gig (dual 512 sdram 2-2-2 speed reached 800mb/s)
Nvidia FX5900XT (aopen)
Used to have the kind of lag you guys describe. Maybe still have it. But after mem upgrade i was doing a lot better. In last major conflict CFS/SA vs CA i had some lag but ctrl-tab made it playable. After all this time only getting 3 frame pod trip in every battle i'm happy but otherwise i can imagine the lag to be frsutrating. And i wouldn't mind seeing CCP smarten VID and sound up.
Why do ppl keep quoting this client issue, alot of the peeps posting also have ubar setups.
Im Running a
P4 3Gz at 3.3
1 GIG of PC3200 also OC
2 SATA 120GB running in raid 1 stripe
ATI 9800PRO 256
Audigy Platinum EX
3Mb connection
I recently upgraded mine. After my upgrade I noticed an improvement but it does not explain the recent events which has taken a turn for the worse. Please read the thread this has been mentioned a few times and discounted.
This isnt the OLD lag please stop refering to it or read the thread properly.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.14 12:18:00 -
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Edited by: Iluyen on 14/06/2004 12:19:48
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
And this matters how? We are playing EVE. The only thing that makes EVE worth playing is pvp. Pvp often involves large groups of players shooting.
The game should be able to handle it. It if it isn't EVE simply won't be worth playing any longer.
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