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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Jadrut
im not usually one to jump on the whining bandwagon but i just got podded, couldnt do jack because i appeared out of cloak 7 times and lost targetting because of it
As iv stated before in another thread, im positive theres a problem with the southern node tree (Great Wildlands/Curse/Catch/Stain and so on...)
Aneu
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Erm, if you weren't involved please don't hijack the topic.
So a statement from an outsider to CA/SA saying that not only YOU have that problem is hijacking the thread?
I believe it's reinforcing your position... ok then.
CCP PLEASE FIX THE LAG SO THAT CA/SA CAN FIGHT!
Happy now? 
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AzzKikr
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:59:00 -
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Here is my 2 cents worth.
I have logged calls with CPP about the lag as well...Well this is the answer that they gave me...
"I am sorry for not have detected your problem earlier. Your problem is connected to your Internet Service Provider. You can see it in your tracert.txt file where there is a jump from c.a 30 ms to 650 ms between routing nodes. There is something extremely wrong with that connection and there is nothing we can do about it from here. You will need to connect your ISP. I hope they will be able to solve your problem and get you up and running as soon as possible."
Go Figure...
Regards,
AzzKikr
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:04:00 -
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let me see, everyone across several continents has ISP problems as explained there. No its not EVE at all.
not a coincidence that the server "upgrades" happened at the same time this problem became worse, nope not a chance.
not to mention that its only EVE that presents problem.
But still, must be everyones ISP.
right??
wrong.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:18:00 -
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I have talked to alot of the players i know in EVE, and they all report the same problems.
Their is something in the the way the clientside interacts with EVE, as I am no programmer i cannot get closer to it than that.
Its not everyones ISP, that causes the problem.
This is not to flame ccp, but to find a solution, so we still can enjoy this great game.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Heidern
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:33:00 -
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What i REALLY REALLY want is for CCP to get on this post RIGHT NOW and tell us EXACTLY whats causing this problem, not tell us our ISP's are borked, all i want is an answer and the truth, what is causing this to do this? Is there not enough power in our area to have fleet battles? What are you guys doing to resolve this issue? How long is it going to take and do i get some type of compensation for my half a$$ed gameplay i get to enjoy cause the other half is ruled out due to unplayable lag?
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Kirin
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus}
As iv stated before in another thread, im positive theres a problem with the southern node tree (Great Wildlands/Curse/Catch/Stain and so on...)
Aneu[/quote
It oocurs in the northern nodes as well, Venal, Fade, Vale/Tribute areas. And it does seem to have gotten alot worse since their last hardware upgrade (3-4 days ago)
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Ordinaire
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Posted - 2004.06.12 21:28:00 -
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So, what were the losses?
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.06.12 21:53:00 -
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Afaik, it was 4 SA BS's down, 3 CA BS's down.
You really can't judge any skill or anything by the battle though, the lag was far too bad.
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Razzil
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:33:00 -
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There is a missunderstanding.
CA and SA did not agreed to stop fighting each other. We agreed on a 2 hours cease fire for fleet battles and a free passage for the CA fleet back from U-Q to HLW. Both parties fought well again.
This cease fire was over today at 19:00 EVE time.
The numbers posted in an earlier reply aren't correct, like usual.
Razzil
SA Fleet Command
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Razzil
CA and SA did not agreed to stop fighting each other.
We didn't ?
Originally by: Razzil
We agreed on a 2 hours cease fire for fleet battles and a free passage for the CA fleet back from U-Q to HLW.
Maybe we did ....
Originally by: Razzil
Both parties fought well again.
As well as could be expected under the given circumstances.
Originally by: Razzil
This cease fire was over today at 19:00 EVE time.
So we did agree to stop fighting then or what ?
Originally by: Razzil
The numbers posted in an earlier reply aren't correct, like usual.
Are they ever 
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:49:00 -
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Well Jaabaa we killed you that is 1 thing that's for sure  (love fraps  )
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HC MasiEEE
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 12/06/2004 23:07:12
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Well Jaabaa we killed you that is 1 thing that's for sure (love fraps )
Yes, I died hours later in an unrelated incendet. Your addition to this thread being ?
BTW, for you the rest of you, I was on my own in a Rupture, it was 5 BSs that took me out, and I wasn't podded. So it was a very equal fight, or what ?
Quote:
2004.06.12 21:27:00
Ship Type: Rupture
Solar System: HLW-HP
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: thebold
Security Status: 0.6
Corporation: MASS
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Name: Svetlanna (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.4
Corporation: Storm Guard Elite
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I
Name: HC MasiEEE
Security Status: 0.9
Corporation: Hegemonic Core
Ship Type: Raven
Name: Silverstone
Security Status: 2.1
Corporation: Tyrell Corp
Ship Type: Scorpion
Name: Icarus100
Security Status: -0.9
Corporation: The Collective
Ship Type: Scorpion
Go play with your dolls and leave this thread so that it can stay on topic.
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LostChylde
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Posted - 2004.06.12 23:27:00 -
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id like to reply to this thread but it took 2 minutes to load the forums, go figure.
i lost my ship before this engagement but we experianced the exact same problems. i cant agree that its my isp cuz everything else i do, i have not problems with.
heres my 2cents from another thread.
I lost my apoc in a fleet battle in system qsm few days ago and after the new upgrade.
the lag was so bad that i was dead before i even saw that i was taking damage. from the logs 5 people were pounding on me and yet there was no indication id been targeted. i had my main target, a secondary cruiser target and that was it. i have target set up so that when im targeted, i target back. so i should have had warning that i had a ton of people shooting at me.
from what i can tell my shield modules never fired, my armor repair modules never fired, i never even moved enough to warp out. no one was close enough to scramble me.
from the log, i cant even tell if my guns had ever fired when we engaged.
and yes, i have a fast system, cable modem, blah, blah , blah. typically, i can run my two accounts with np. after this last upgrade, i can barely run one. since i got bounced back to empire im finding that entering space from a station is extremely slow, jumping in is slow, ect, ect.
id fully have to agree that this has something to do with the upgrade as things worked ok before and now they dont.
im not a uber PVP pilot but i know when to get my ass out, how to keep it together in fleet combat. im chalking this one up to a lag kill.
and i hope ccp fixes the damn fix they just put on us.
lc
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 23:28:00 -
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Please stay on topic gentlemen.
The lag ingame is horrible.
I have benchmarked my pc again, tested all my ram, tested my graphic card, tested my connection, nothing wrong with ISP, ive clered the cache. and i have turned all the nize graphic features ingame off.
The game is still laggy, and it isnt only in the southern nodes, i have reports from the north of EVE, and empire is also marked by this.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:05:00 -
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I'm kinda glad my 30min break today turned into a full days break (damn footie)this is one figth i'm glad i missed you know **** is ****** up when SA and CA agree not to shoot each other
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:17:00 -
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The new upgrade Is terrible.
Although I lost my raven I could not warp out. Mods were not working and the lag was worse than I have ever seen it.
It was a fun fight except........... LAG LAG LAG!!!!
Check your logs of the system and you would see the system was on its knees.
GF
Please Fix this...........
we cannot have fun like this...
FIRE SOMEBODY!!!
Thanks
EvilDoomer
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
The lag was so bad that both leaders agreed upon a cease fire.
One quote says it all.
I wasn't there, since I'm offline for some weeks(dont ya miss me, cursies?), but for this to happen... damn.
I've been in many server-laggy battles, with "something is target jamming something" etc.
I've been in many cliet-laggy battles, due to me playing on a b0rked MB with 256mb ram, where my PC has completely freezed for 30 seconds...
I've sent numerous petitions and bug reports, asking for more resources for all the route between HLW and DSS.
But for SA and CA to make a ceasefire due to lag............
Honor to both sides (as usual).
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 02:01:00 -
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well Im not a CCP or anything...
but it would appear the upgrades are borked no? 
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.13 02:19:00 -
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Well the fight tonight seemed to go allright... even tho to warp away you had to log off and log back on, and if u jumped through a system with over 50+ people in you'd have to log off and back on to get to see what your doing...
During my time in CA iv found out that if you log off and log back on in a system with alot of players that the server allocates you enough packets to make sure you get the optimum performance in that system... to me it seems thats kinda b0rked in the system allocation configuration... mayby somewhere to look at CCP?
Aneu Angellus
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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CAPTmintor
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: CAPTmintor on 13/06/2004 03:34:46
all got millions dollars give ccp fix 100 % lag ? if not then have wait for while then learn to work around smaller groups then large ones
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:37:00 -
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lagg seems to be worse after upgrades. I would hope that cpp would adress this as soon as possible.
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:42:00 -
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Here is a recap of my playing days in eve to date. When i was on my 10 day trial i never was booted once and only saw minor lag. lag is a part of mmorpg. beit client side or server side. BUT what i have experienced can only be explained as headen down hill. right after my trial we got the new hardware was starting to be released. lag started worse then ever i could expect to be kicked to desktop every 10 jumps or so. then as time went on it has become unbearable. now me sayen that ill also admit i have a pos puter. but friends and corp mates i have hunted with notice the same thing. Last nite i was podded. Lag struck i could only hear sounds of the battle. Lag ends and im in a shiney new pod. i hafta agree this is on the part of ccp. had it been like this during my trial i doubt i would have bought the game, but im addicted now so ive just come to the realization i bettter stock up on ships 
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
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Rhuu
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Posted - 2004.06.13 04:19:00 -
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Did anyone run tracerts during the lag spike?
If some intermediary router (geographically close to wherever CCP's server is) that happens to be on all players' routes to TQ was having a bad day, this *might* not be CCPs, or the hardware upgrades' fault. It would be CCP's own ISPs fault, perhaps.
I wasn't there, of course, though I'm just presenting another possibility. One that is probably wrong.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.13 06:58:00 -
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You know I've had about enough of these CCP "its your own fault" type answers. It's not like there's only one or two people having these problems.
If I order a pizza and they deliver it cold, they don't have to start whining how they were stuck in traffic or that their motorbike broke down, wich isn't their fault because someone else made the bike, I ain't paying.
If CCP think I'm gonna keep paying to play a game under these circumstanses they must be smoking more pot then I already thought they were.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 08:41:00 -
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This is not an occasionally lag spike we are talking about, its in there everyday.
Something is wrong, we have talked about this for months, some say its clientside.
One thing i can say for sure, i have had no decrease in lag since the hardwareupgrade, on the contrary, it has become worse.
One of the participiants in this tread said, work around it, adapt, fly in samller groups, I can say, that even small battles 3v3 lags so horrible, that it is not an option, Another one saidd their is always lag in an online game, well thats true, untill now i have been in hundreds of battles, never lagged out before in my life. Yes i had lag but not as severe that i couldnt function in the game.
Before anyone says, upgrade your system, I have a pc constructed for gaming, a very powerfull one, i have a superb cable connection.
During the fleetbattle last night, i had no mem loss and no package loss whatsoever.
The only background program i was running was my mem monitor, Why did i have that running, well it seems that in addition to lag, EVE also tends to have severe memloss sometimes. but not last night.
I love to lay eve, its the best online game out there, i hope CCP sees this, because we the players also want to contribute to this great game.
But when you cannot play, the game you want, then its somewhat without a purpose to be here.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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trucidon
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Posted - 2004.06.13 09:36:00 -
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well look at ccp's side for this problem. Due to the complexity they wont have no clue what is actually causing the lag.
It can be a routing prob a server hardware prob or it can be somewhere in the code.
If it's in the code you prolly wont see no official statement that they gonna fix it, cause they damn now as well that it would take too long to find the bugs, and there is a big chance they will never find whats wrong.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.06.13 09:52:00 -
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the whole server was choppy yesterday, I CTD 4 times and I saw the same thing happent to plenty of others, I never CTD normally
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 13/06/2004 10:23:16
Ok, i just ghosted my machine, which primarely means, its clean, like i had reinstaled everything, game still lags, on my way from empire to curse i blackscrened 3 times, their are around 4k of players on the server, this is ridiculous
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Slarty Bardfast
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Posted - 2004.06.13 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Slarty Bardfast on 13/06/2004 11:00:58
It isn't just your regions with the lag, Fountain has been pretty awful since after the 'upgrades', and Genesis too has been far more laggy since the 'upgrade'.
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