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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:06:00 -
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Edited by: XirtamVotf on 12/06/2004 17:10:02
Edited by: XirtamVotf on 12/06/2004 17:09:31
SA and CA engaged today in U-Q and the game was rather unplayable. There were around 56 players in local all together. Mods would not respond for alot of players, including SA players.
Players were dropped during battle,and targetting was a task at least. The lag was worse than before the upgrade with less players in the fight. Both group leaders agreed that we would constructively address CCP about this, can CCP respond ? The lag was so bad that both leaders agreed upon a cease fire.
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Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 12/06/2004 17:12:13
Edited by: Chode Rizoum on 12/06/2004 17:11:56
I luv u
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to get to my point... what can ccp do in this case fx ?
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:11:00 -
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To add my first hand account of what happened, i have a pretty solid connection and beefy PC, and i exerienced the lag also, but i could still fight effectivly. A corp m8 wasn't so fortunate, he was destroyed with no control whatsoever because of this said lag.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:13:00 -
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Due to the insane lag, modules not turning on, etc, the leaders of SA and CA agreed to a 2 hour cease fire.
This has to be the first time in history that these two sides have agreed to something. ;)
This cease fire alone should give CCP some kind of indication as to the problems involved with the current servers.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:13:00 -
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I agree with XirtamVotf here.
This is not the first time it happens. I've seen a battle where I freezed like half of fleet for 30 seconds... And then unplayable lag with modules not coming online etc... For the same amount of pilots or even less.
Lag is still bad in eve. CCP must do something 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Chode Rizoum
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:14:00 -
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well they are trying ... they upgraded the server couple of times now..
Centuria > whoot?
Centuria > you stalking me? :)
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Dreez
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dreez on 12/06/2004 17:22:04
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'Trying to argue logically with Evol is like trying to teach a pig to dance. It only makes you look foolish and really annoys the pig ' - Duke Droklar [OC]
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:19:00 -
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The problems seem to be getting worse with the upgrades, not better. I was firing at zeal dragon and had him at 60% shields then I fired for 2 mins without any bullets leaving my gun and finally had to relog because nothing was responding.
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Foyle
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:21:00 -
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Lag was the worst ever.
under the circumstance- good fight by all.
Eternally yours, MuthaTrucka
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ElDiabloRojo
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:22:00 -
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i was flying a raven in this battle and sat quite far away from the gate. The lag was massive and although i was able to keep in the fight it was taking a long time to target and near impossible to reload missiles.
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Laro
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:24:00 -
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I was at the fight in U-Q and lost my Typhoon due to lag. I warped in and tried to switch on my modules with no success. They just started to come on line as my ship disintegrated.
I have been in battles previous to the server upgrade and it was never this bad. 
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sapage1
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:25:00 -
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yes i have to agree with xirtan on this one. I was taken damage from 3 bs in my BB when my mwd decide to go offline just as i was trying to warp out. Also i could not reload my missile launchers. Not really a good state to be in in a fleet battle.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:29:00 -
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My PC setup is.
AMD athlon XP+2800, 1.5 Gb DDRram(3200).
256 MB ddr ram Nvidia Graphic card.
My connection is a cable con,1024/512
I have no bottlenecks on this PC.
I have always experienced somekind of lag in this game, when engaging in large fleetbattles, but never have i had this kind of lag.
I always run multiple programs in the baclground when playing. programs like fraps, and webbrowsers, and Firewall protection.
But at this specifik battle, since i had noticed an increase in lag when fighting, i had closed all my background programs, the only program i had running was my mem monitor.
during the battle i had no mem or package loss.
I warped in at 60km, tried to aquirre locks on enemies, and turn my ship around. I was flying a tempest in this battle. Not one of my modules did respond, my screen totally froze, and did first clear up, when i was in my pod.
Now pods are extremly agile and warp instantly, but in fleetbattles pods also experience lag, i was dead in 20 seconds, Normally i can hold myself in any battle, but this was so sewere, that i would have been better of just blowing my own ship up.
Its not loosing a ship, ships can be replaced, but the lag has to go.
I hope CCP, reads this, as we all love this game and want to have fun.
This is as much to make CCP aware that these problems with Lag, reduces your fun ingame, and if a game isnt fun anymore.
Im looking forward to an explanation and solution to this.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Left
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:36:00 -
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To me the game is showing a general sense of laginess all togheter. I am sometimes spending 5 minutes to log in (with DSL), and this isnt after a server reboot.
At oen point I was at a gate by mself, and I clicked down to fly that direction, and my ship started going down, then up, like when a movie is stuck in a loop, and after abotu 30 seconds my ship started to do what it was supposed to do. 60 or so in local, no combat going on, at the gate by myself.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
My PC setup is.
AMD athlon XP+2800, 1.5 Gb DDRram(3200).
256 MB ddr ram Nvidia Graphic card.
My connection is a cable con,1024/512
I have no bottlenecks on this PC.
I have always experienced somekind of lag in this game, when engaging in large fleetbattles, but never have i had this kind of lag.
I always run multiple programs in the baclground when playing. programs like fraps, and webbrowsers, and Firewall protection.
But at this specifik battle, since i had noticed an increase in lag when fighting, i had closed all my background programs, the only program i had running was my mem monitor.
during the battle i had no mem or package loss.
I warped in at 60km, tried to aquirre locks on enemies, and turn my ship around. I was flying a tempest in this battle. Not one of my modules did respond, my screen totally froze, and did first clear up, when i was in my pod.
Now pods are extremly agile and warp instantly, but in fleetbattles pods also experience lag, i was dead in 20 seconds, Normally i can hold myself in any battle, but this was so sewere, that i would have been better of just blowing my own ship up.
Its not loosing a ship, ships can be replaced, but the lag has to go.
I hope CCP, reads this, as we all love this game and want to have fun.
This is as much to make CCP aware that these problems with Lag, reduces your fun ingame, and if a game isnt fun anymore.
Im looking forward to an explanation and solution to this.
I think is still client lag though, not so much lag of the servers anymore, yes you do have a fairly powerful pc, mine is even more so, however in large fleet engagements I still get **** poor frame rates, Think about it though, Rendering all them ships,missiles, turretfire, tracking the movement of turrets, some serious calculations goin on there... Basically its not gonna go unless the implement a feature of the game not drawing the ships and just showing brackets(which kinda defeats the object)
I dont think its gonna go away tbh.
Sass
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:41:00 -
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In that case I think eve itself will go away pretty soon.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:42:00 -
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Yes sass, i had sound turened of, and i had no problem jumping into local, but it was like something was completly wrong at the engagement.
My PC is bult for gamming, and i constantly upgrade. you know me sass i have been in many battles, and with even more opponets than here.
But this is the worse i have ever experienxed.
I suspect that they have made something with the code, maybe put in something for upcomming patch.
This is not to flame CCP, but away to resolve this problem
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:43:00 -
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i have heard rumours that every object in eve is rendered on-the-fly instead of rendered once and stored in the memory for later use... :P
"We brake for nobody"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:47:00 -
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i also heard another rumour that every object in eve is stored in the memory when rendered for later use, but eve saves the same objects over and over (if its 6 megathrons then it makes 6 and saves them instead of making 1 and use it 6 times) :P
"We brake for nobody"
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:48:00 -
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Yes i agree CCP need to figure this out right now because ppl have tolerance but mot this much so please CCP do something ;0)
BAD LAAG = BAD GAME.
Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:54:00 -
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This is not to flame CCP, but help CCP understand what the players are experiancing.
I have a high end machine and also never had this bad of a problem. I really love this game,
and want to see it grow, not see people leave out of frustration. I think that most veteran players
would not have stayed this long if we didnt love this game. So this should be a constructive manner in which you address CCP to make it better for players.
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Core Bash
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:55:00 -
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I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon.
Eve is about conquest which means it requires teamwork. There has always been terrible lag with large fleets which kind of destroys the purpose of the game. CCP please do something. |
Graffix
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Posted - 2004.06.12 17:55:00 -
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I just reactivated my account this past week, and I have been getting tremendous lag spikes with my dsl, and this happens when I'm alone in a system. I have a solid PC, gig of ddr ram radeon 9800 pro, updated drivers and ill just freeze for a good 30 seconds a few times a day. It didnt do this when i played months ago, at least not as often, but it sure makes traveling in 0.0 riskier, and makes u pray when engaged in battle that u don't get b|tch slapped by the lag monster.
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hook1
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Posted - 2004.06.12 18:21:00 -
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Quate:
My PC setup is.
AMD athlon XP+2800, 1.5 Gb DDRram(3200).
256 MB ddr ram Nvidia Graphic card.
My connection is a cable con,1024/512
I have no bottlenecks on this PC. /quate ends.
From what I have seen the newest CCP actions have moved some load from servers to the Clients, this I notice has increased the harddrive activity on my computer and created an non existing before bottleneck regarding HD on my computer.
So you guys experiencing a newly added lag , check your HD load while lags occur to check this.
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Kronarty
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Posted - 2004.06.12 18:37:00 -
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We also experienced that hellish "can't reload, can't do anything" lag in 9-266Q during the first battle against UNICOR. It was really frustrating, I could move my raven from system to system (even tho it took ages to jump and warp) but everytime I tried to reload or use a module nothing happened.
Could there be a way to allocate server resources dynamically so that resources are allocated depending on the amount of ships in a system? If this is already the case, it is not working in a stellar fashion 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.06.12 18:50:00 -
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Yes Kronarty I remember that.
Although there were not more than 40 pilots in local I was killed in 3 frames even though at first when we were only 10 ppl of us by the gate it was ok
60% shields..... 25% hull.... pod 
DEVS, DO WE HAVE TO GO TO YULAI TO GET DECENT PERFORMANCE TO GET INTO A BIG FIGHT ???
.... with the missile changes it might get even worse since cruisers/frigss will be throwing out numerous lighter missiles.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:06:00 -
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Erm, if you weren't involved please don't hijack the topic.
CA and SA agreed on a cease fire due to an impossible in-game situaton.
Did someone in the EVE universe really miss this point ?
CA and SA agreed to STOP FIGHTING because of game mechanics !
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:11:00 -
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Lag was so bad during this engagement that i could not even rotate the camera or lock anything, only person i could engage was the one who locked me first, other people locked me and i was not aware of it until i read the logs. No target boxes ever appeared on my screen.
warping away in my pod resulted in "warp drive active" staying on screen for the duration of the battle but my pod never left the battle scene. i was able to watch the battle while not actually being there (cant have been as nobody podded me) i had to request warp about 3 times and eventually warp to a gang member before the battle scene left my screen.
i have a decent system and run much more graphical games than EVE, such as FPS shooters (BF:V etc)
connection:
750k down
128k up
GPU:
Nvidia TI 4400
CPU:
Athlon 2100+
MEM:
512mb DDR333
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Jadrut
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:12:00 -
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im not usually one to jump on the whining bandwagon but i just got podded, couldnt do jack because i appeared out of cloak 7 times and lost targetting because of it
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Erm, if you weren't involved please don't hijack the topic.
CA and SA agreed on a cease fire due to an impossible in-game situaton.
Did someone in the EVE universe really miss this point ?
CA and SA agreed to STOP FIGHTING because of game mechanics !
Indeed, it took me a few minutes to compose myself after reading that... but people dont seem to understand the underlying point here.... SA and CA dont stop fighting for anything... but for the GAME to stop them fighting... its gota be outrageously bad...
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jadrut
im not usually one to jump on the whining bandwagon but i just got podded, couldnt do jack because i appeared out of cloak 7 times and lost targetting because of it
As iv stated before in another thread, im positive theres a problem with the southern node tree (Great Wildlands/Curse/Catch/Stain and so on...)
Aneu
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Erm, if you weren't involved please don't hijack the topic.
So a statement from an outsider to CA/SA saying that not only YOU have that problem is hijacking the thread?
I believe it's reinforcing your position... ok then.
CCP PLEASE FIX THE LAG SO THAT CA/SA CAN FIGHT!
Happy now?
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AzzKikr
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Posted - 2004.06.12 19:59:00 -
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Here is my 2 cents worth.
I have logged calls with CPP about the lag as well...Well this is the answer that they gave me...
"I am sorry for not have detected your problem earlier. Your problem is connected to your Internet Service Provider. You can see it in your tracert.txt file where there is a jump from c.a 30 ms to 650 ms between routing nodes. There is something extremely wrong with that connection and there is nothing we can do about it from here. You will need to connect your ISP. I hope they will be able to solve your problem and get you up and running as soon as possible."
Go Figure...
Regards,
AzzKikr
Old Farts Recruitment Officer
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:04:00 -
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let me see, everyone across several continents has ISP problems as explained there. No its not EVE at all.
not a coincidence that the server "upgrades" happened at the same time this problem became worse, nope not a chance.
not to mention that its only EVE that presents problem.
But still, must be everyones ISP.
right??
wrong.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:18:00 -
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I have talked to alot of the players i know in EVE, and they all report the same problems.
Their is something in the the way the clientside interacts with EVE, as I am no programmer i cannot get closer to it than that.
Its not everyones ISP, that causes the problem.
This is not to flame ccp, but to find a solution, so we still can enjoy this great game.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Heidern
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:33:00 -
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What i REALLY REALLY want is for CCP to get on this post RIGHT NOW and tell us EXACTLY whats causing this problem, not tell us our ISP's are borked, all i want is an answer and the truth, what is causing this to do this? Is there not enough power in our area to have fleet battles? What are you guys doing to resolve this issue? How long is it going to take and do i get some type of compensation for my half a$$ed gameplay i get to enjoy cause the other half is ruled out due to unplayable lag?
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Kirin
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Posted - 2004.06.12 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Aneu Angellus}
As iv stated before in another thread, im positive theres a problem with the southern node tree (Great Wildlands/Curse/Catch/Stain and so on...)
Aneu[/quote
It oocurs in the northern nodes as well, Venal, Fade, Vale/Tribute areas. And it does seem to have gotten alot worse since their last hardware upgrade (3-4 days ago)
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Ordinaire
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Posted - 2004.06.12 21:28:00 -
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So, what were the losses?
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2004.06.12 21:53:00 -
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Afaik, it was 4 SA BS's down, 3 CA BS's down.
You really can't judge any skill or anything by the battle though, the lag was far too bad.
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Razzil
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:33:00 -
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There is a missunderstanding.
CA and SA did not agreed to stop fighting each other. We agreed on a 2 hours cease fire for fleet battles and a free passage for the CA fleet back from U-Q to HLW. Both parties fought well again.
This cease fire was over today at 19:00 EVE time.
The numbers posted in an earlier reply aren't correct, like usual.
Razzil
SA Fleet Command
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Razzil
CA and SA did not agreed to stop fighting each other.
We didn't ?
Originally by: Razzil
We agreed on a 2 hours cease fire for fleet battles and a free passage for the CA fleet back from U-Q to HLW.
Maybe we did ....
Originally by: Razzil
Both parties fought well again.
As well as could be expected under the given circumstances.
Originally by: Razzil
This cease fire was over today at 19:00 EVE time.
So we did agree to stop fighting then or what ?
Originally by: Razzil
The numbers posted in an earlier reply aren't correct, like usual.
Are they ever
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:49:00 -
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Well Jaabaa we killed you that is 1 thing that's for sure  (love fraps  )
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HC MasiEEE
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.12 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 12/06/2004 23:07:12
Originally by: HC MasiEEE
Well Jaabaa we killed you that is 1 thing that's for sure (love fraps )
Yes, I died hours later in an unrelated incendet. Your addition to this thread being ?
BTW, for you the rest of you, I was on my own in a Rupture, it was 5 BSs that took me out, and I wasn't podded. So it was a very equal fight, or what ?
Quote:
2004.06.12 21:27:00
Ship Type: Rupture
Solar System: HLW-HP
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: thebold
Security Status: 0.6
Corporation: MASS
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Name: Svetlanna (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.4
Corporation: Storm Guard Elite
Ship Type: Scorpion
Weapon Type: Paradise Cruise Missile I
Name: HC MasiEEE
Security Status: 0.9
Corporation: Hegemonic Core
Ship Type: Raven
Name: Silverstone
Security Status: 2.1
Corporation: Tyrell Corp
Ship Type: Scorpion
Name: Icarus100
Security Status: -0.9
Corporation: The Collective
Ship Type: Scorpion
Go play with your dolls and leave this thread so that it can stay on topic.
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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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LostChylde
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Posted - 2004.06.12 23:27:00 -
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id like to reply to this thread but it took 2 minutes to load the forums, go figure.
i lost my ship before this engagement but we experianced the exact same problems. i cant agree that its my isp cuz everything else i do, i have not problems with.
heres my 2cents from another thread.
I lost my apoc in a fleet battle in system qsm few days ago and after the new upgrade.
the lag was so bad that i was dead before i even saw that i was taking damage. from the logs 5 people were pounding on me and yet there was no indication id been targeted. i had my main target, a secondary cruiser target and that was it. i have target set up so that when im targeted, i target back. so i should have had warning that i had a ton of people shooting at me.
from what i can tell my shield modules never fired, my armor repair modules never fired, i never even moved enough to warp out. no one was close enough to scramble me.
from the log, i cant even tell if my guns had ever fired when we engaged.
and yes, i have a fast system, cable modem, blah, blah , blah. typically, i can run my two accounts with np. after this last upgrade, i can barely run one. since i got bounced back to empire im finding that entering space from a station is extremely slow, jumping in is slow, ect, ect.
id fully have to agree that this has something to do with the upgrade as things worked ok before and now they dont.
im not a uber PVP pilot but i know when to get my ass out, how to keep it together in fleet combat. im chalking this one up to a lag kill.
and i hope ccp fixes the damn fix they just put on us.
lc
2004.08.16 01:50:10combatSansha's Minion strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 5.4 damage.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.12 23:28:00 -
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Please stay on topic gentlemen.
The lag ingame is horrible.
I have benchmarked my pc again, tested all my ram, tested my graphic card, tested my connection, nothing wrong with ISP, ive clered the cache. and i have turned all the nize graphic features ingame off.
The game is still laggy, and it isnt only in the southern nodes, i have reports from the north of EVE, and empire is also marked by this.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Dolemite2K
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:05:00 -
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I'm kinda glad my 30min break today turned into a full days break (damn footie)this is one figth i'm glad i missed you know **** is ****** up when SA and CA agree not to shoot each other
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EvilDoomer
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:17:00 -
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The new upgrade Is terrible.
Although I lost my raven I could not warp out. Mods were not working and the lag was worse than I have ever seen it.
It was a fun fight except........... LAG LAG LAG!!!!
Check your logs of the system and you would see the system was on its knees.
GF
Please Fix this...........
we cannot have fun like this...
FIRE SOMEBODY!!!
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters
** Ghost Fleet Pilot **
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.06.13 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
The lag was so bad that both leaders agreed upon a cease fire.
One quote says it all.
I wasn't there, since I'm offline for some weeks(dont ya miss me, cursies?), but for this to happen... damn.
I've been in many server-laggy battles, with "something is target jamming something" etc.
I've been in many cliet-laggy battles, due to me playing on a b0rked MB with 256mb ram, where my PC has completely freezed for 30 seconds...
I've sent numerous petitions and bug reports, asking for more resources for all the route between HLW and DSS.
But for SA and CA to make a ceasefire due to lag............
Honor to both sides (as usual).
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Xavier Cardde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 02:01:00 -
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well Im not a CCP or anything...
but it would appear the upgrades are borked no?
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.06.13 02:19:00 -
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Well the fight tonight seemed to go allright... even tho to warp away you had to log off and log back on, and if u jumped through a system with over 50+ people in you'd have to log off and back on to get to see what your doing...
During my time in CA iv found out that if you log off and log back on in a system with alot of players that the server allocates you enough packets to make sure you get the optimum performance in that system... to me it seems thats kinda b0rked in the system allocation configuration... mayby somewhere to look at CCP?
Aneu Angellus
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Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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CAPTmintor
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: CAPTmintor on 13/06/2004 03:34:46
all got millions dollars give ccp fix 100 % lag ? if not then have wait for while then learn to work around smaller groups then large ones
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Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:37:00 -
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lagg seems to be worse after upgrades. I would hope that cpp would adress this as soon as possible.
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 03:42:00 -
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Here is a recap of my playing days in eve to date. When i was on my 10 day trial i never was booted once and only saw minor lag. lag is a part of mmorpg. beit client side or server side. BUT what i have experienced can only be explained as headen down hill. right after my trial we got the new hardware was starting to be released. lag started worse then ever i could expect to be kicked to desktop every 10 jumps or so. then as time went on it has become unbearable. now me sayen that ill also admit i have a pos puter. but friends and corp mates i have hunted with notice the same thing. Last nite i was podded. Lag struck i could only hear sounds of the battle. Lag ends and im in a shiney new pod. i hafta agree this is on the part of ccp. had it been like this during my trial i doubt i would have bought the game, but im addicted now so ive just come to the realization i bettter stock up on ships 
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
DingleBerry Bear
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Rhuu
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Posted - 2004.06.13 04:19:00 -
[54]
Did anyone run tracerts during the lag spike?
If some intermediary router (geographically close to wherever CCP's server is) that happens to be on all players' routes to TQ was having a bad day, this *might* not be CCPs, or the hardware upgrades' fault. It would be CCP's own ISPs fault, perhaps.
I wasn't there, of course, though I'm just presenting another possibility. One that is probably wrong.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.13 06:58:00 -
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You know I've had about enough of these CCP "its your own fault" type answers. It's not like there's only one or two people having these problems.
If I order a pizza and they deliver it cold, they don't have to start whining how they were stuck in traffic or that their motorbike broke down, wich isn't their fault because someone else made the bike, I ain't paying.
If CCP think I'm gonna keep paying to play a game under these circumstanses they must be smoking more pot then I already thought they were.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 08:41:00 -
[56]
This is not an occasionally lag spike we are talking about, its in there everyday.
Something is wrong, we have talked about this for months, some say its clientside.
One thing i can say for sure, i have had no decrease in lag since the hardwareupgrade, on the contrary, it has become worse.
One of the participiants in this tread said, work around it, adapt, fly in samller groups, I can say, that even small battles 3v3 lags so horrible, that it is not an option, Another one saidd their is always lag in an online game, well thats true, untill now i have been in hundreds of battles, never lagged out before in my life. Yes i had lag but not as severe that i couldnt function in the game.
Before anyone says, upgrade your system, I have a pc constructed for gaming, a very powerfull one, i have a superb cable connection.
During the fleetbattle last night, i had no mem loss and no package loss whatsoever.
The only background program i was running was my mem monitor, Why did i have that running, well it seems that in addition to lag, EVE also tends to have severe memloss sometimes. but not last night.
I love to lay eve, its the best online game out there, i hope CCP sees this, because we the players also want to contribute to this great game.
But when you cannot play, the game you want, then its somewhat without a purpose to be here.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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trucidon
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Posted - 2004.06.13 09:36:00 -
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well look at ccp's side for this problem. Due to the complexity they wont have no clue what is actually causing the lag.
It can be a routing prob a server hardware prob or it can be somewhere in the code.
If it's in the code you prolly wont see no official statement that they gonna fix it, cause they damn now as well that it would take too long to find the bugs, and there is a big chance they will never find whats wrong.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.06.13 09:52:00 -
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the whole server was choppy yesterday, I CTD 4 times and I saw the same thing happent to plenty of others, I never CTD normally
Sig Thief
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 13/06/2004 10:23:16
Ok, i just ghosted my machine, which primarely means, its clean, like i had reinstaled everything, game still lags, on my way from empire to curse i blackscrened 3 times, their are around 4k of players on the server, this is ridiculous
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Slarty Bardfast
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Posted - 2004.06.13 10:59:00 -
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Edited by: Slarty Bardfast on 13/06/2004 11:00:58
It isn't just your regions with the lag, Fountain has been pretty awful since after the 'upgrades', and Genesis too has been far more laggy since the 'upgrade'.
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Moah
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:06:00 -
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I had lag as usual in such battles. Not more or less before the upgrade.
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Pelias
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:12:00 -
[62]
Network lag and ISP have nothing to do with that!
In fact, EVE is incredibly lag proof - you can have bearable game experience even with 25% PACKET LOSS!
650 ms is uber ping, EVE isn't bloody Quake where you need ~50ms!
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:14:00 -
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Bottom line is its happening everywhere and id et my life its happening to 90% of the players. As said before we all cant have bad isps. im realtivly new to mmorpg games the few i have played have had lag it was never like this tho. I mean honestly id hate to say i lost every battle due to lag. sounds like a lame excuse. but so far every time i have lost a ship or was pk'd it was due to lag. and that really sux. My troubles with lag started with the server upgrades and i dont have an uberly 1337 pc.
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
DingleBerry Bear
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Arud
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:31:00 -
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what needs is a much much better level of detail system
Not just have the ships apear and disapear, have various models for each ship each with different polygon counts. The high poly ships should have the shading but the low poly ones should not. This is all about the cliant at this moment.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:36:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Arud
what needs is a much much better level of detail system
Not just have the ships apear and disapear, have various models for each ship each with different polygon counts. The high poly ships should have the shading but the low poly ones should not. This is all about the cliant at this moment.
agreed. its a joke also that when you have more ships stuck to you, its the equivelent of another small fleet your computer has to render..
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Xziled
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:54:00 -
[66]
only lag i get , as far as i can tell, is caused by my computer. i have a p4 2.4 1 gig ram and a gf4 ti4600 , not the best system but should be able to handle eve decently. and it usually does, but when i enter systems with lots of people sittin at the gate, or when we are bs chaining, my computer locks for like 30 seconds, hard locks , memory usage shoots up super high, cpu usage shoots up to 100% and doesn't move, and u can hear it thinkin about something, tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick for 30 seconds to 1 min. this has caused me to die more then once, warp in, get the lag, y hello thar nice pod.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.06.13 11:56:00 -
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imho the GPU's cant take it. They are making the lag.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.13 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tristan on 13/06/2004 12:42:52
Xziled, thats a perfectly good system to run a game like EVE. Its hardly going to put a strain on your machine or graphics card (IF the game wasnt full of bugs!)
Your system should be able to run much more graphicaly intense games such as UT or BF:V for example, never mind EVE.
However your "tick tick tick tick" problem is probably quite serious. Your hard drive is most likley dying, i would replace it ASAP and backup your data before it completly fails on you!
It could be something else but if it only happens at certain times like you said its your HDD. i cant tell for definate without actually hearing it for myself. while your at it clean all your fans out... if it still does it then its definately a hdd about to die.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.06.13 12:52:00 -
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tick tick tick... *me* gets terrible flashbacks... STOP USING YOUR PC NOW UNTILL YOU HAVE A NEW HD !!! Im serious though. Had this 2 times, lost a lotta data :(
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Perdita X
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Posted - 2004.06.13 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Perdita X on 13/06/2004 13:14:40
Xziled, buy a new hard drive, install your os and only then power up the old one and do some emergency backuping. Important stuff first, mp3's and porn last :p
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:09:00 -
[71]
Seems I'll keep trying to stear clear of blobwars.
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Krusty TheClone
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:30:00 -
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But but all these new ships classes such as destroyers and battlecruisers are coming and mixed fleet battles are gonna be awesome. Your gonna have 10 frigs being engaged by the 10 Destroyers and then your 20 BS are gonna take out the 20 Cruisers on other side.
Im a nub, I cant wait for all these massive mixed fleet battles, its gonna be just being in the Navy
/sarcasm
Server upgrade done **** all, any battle of more than 20 vs 20 is COMPLETE LUCK
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.06.13 14:46:00 -
[73]
and where r the devs? when r they gonna come out from the dark and say something?
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.13 16:44:00 -
[74]
Well i hope CCP is reading this, because it affect us all, and the game we enjoy so much. Game is still choppy today, on my way from empire i blacksreened 3 times, with only 4k of players on server, and i was alone most of the times in the systems i travelled.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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TylerJames
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Posted - 2004.06.13 18:00:00 -
[75]
Yeah this was crazy....my first experience in a really large battle...I had no lag when i jumped into the system..warped to a safespot to find out where needed. I then warped to the battle....a scene that was locked on my screen for at least 45 seconds...didnt see ships......just a sky FULL of missiles...then next frame i saw a megathron locked onto me...then i saw him fire on me....then i saw another shot..and then i was in a shiny pod..which i never saw..only could tell because the interface changed at the bottom....then the message that ship is out of control...then woke up in a clone station. maybe10-12 frames total were displayed over a 2 minute period. This is insane, and totally unplayable by me...and dont let them say its my PC stats either, because while a bit old my system is at least 4 times better than the minimum req. stated on the box....I never had this problem running 2 accounts mining or whatnot....or even smaller battles (40-50 ships) in the past. I really want to be active in the PVP aspect of the game....IF I am able to. Please fix this problem CCP...this many people from all over the world cant be wrong....the finances must be there to fix it.
~TJ
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Dray
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Posted - 2004.06.13 21:15:00 -
[76]
as side note to this i was wondering how many people have expirienced an increase in client crashes due to their server node going off line?
as for the lag in the vast majority of cases it has to be server side, i guessing most here have a system more than capable of running eve, i myself have a 64bit ath 2gig of ram and a 9800pro, my connection has never been problem, its seems glaringly obvious that the recent hardware upgrade hasnt gone as smoothly as hoped and is causing a problem, most alliance players have seen action in large battles, and also have risked a jump in on a camp, we know risks and we decide to take them based on what we think is a chance of a victory, but atm there noone prepared to take that risk and who can blame them, i guess we have to hope things get better.
a little bit of info from ccp on the recent hardware upgrade and ongoing work/problems related to it would be nice tho, if only to give players encouragement to stick with eve and look forward to a less laggy expirience.
I picked up this ace book today everyone rates it as a must buy for the budding military genius, tho ive decided to rename it as "Sun Tzu's art of the bloody obvious" |
TGIF
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:06:00 -
[77]
CCP does not care for people saying the performance is bad or good for a few, they are interested in CPU load, the load balancing on the servers and having an enviroment that is stable for the whole community. Even if that part only mine's and spends 50% of the time they play afk or using mining macro's.
Every battle over 20 players in the same grid still lags you to death, irrelevant is how much cpu, patches or servers are installed. The performance is still rather weak. Now i think most of us here can understand CCP having problems to get the new equipment running like it should, but a lack of communication is what upset most of us.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:46:00 -
[78]
As I said before if CA and SA with a total of 50+ players on local agree to a cease fire, then there has to be something TERRIBLY WRONG !
Get it fixed please CCP, ASAP !
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.06.13 22:53:00 -
[79]
UK2 anyone?
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Xelios
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Posted - 2004.06.13 23:01:00 -
[80]
Quote:
Important stuff first, mp3's and **** last :p
Dude, those are the most important things
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CAPTmintor
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Posted - 2004.06.14 05:02:00 -
[81]
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:05:18
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:03:57
as long 20 pvp and under your fine not all ppl have gaming system at home ppl using geforce 3 64 mb cards
and some ppl using dail up have money for dsl are have cable in were they live at yet.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:18:00 -
[82]
Originally by: CAPTmintor
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:05:18
Edited by: CAPTmintor on 14/06/2004 05:03:57
as long 20 pvp and under your fine not all ppl have gaming system at home ppl using geforce 3 64 mb cards
and some ppl using dail up have money for dsl are have cable in were they live at yet.
No your not even small skirmishes 3v3 lags so horrible that one should think we where 10v10.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:23:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 09:05:55
Our guys got lagged in a 3 v 3 Have CCP decided to make a comment ?
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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C4w3
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Posted - 2004.06.14 08:45:00 -
[84]
Awaites the reply from a GM?
"Atleast hey guys we are looking into it and will get back to the EVE community with an answer as soon as we have an explanation".
LAAG still bad even in situations that never ever been laggy before.
Sincearly C4w3 CEO Corp 1.
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Cardassius
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:24:00 -
[85]
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:35:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
Hmm not true. I have been around since day one in this game. I have always swered to Nvidia cards, never had any problems. My PC is a highend gaming machine.
I have been through all the patches, and i have played since beta.
When the community and most of the players in this tread are old timers say the lag has grown worse, try to listen instead of playing smart.
The lag has grown worse this last month. Situations that never have lagged before are showing up, even small skirmishes are lagging like its 50v50 players.
The Lag i experienced in UQ that night was very very bad ask around and you will see.
So instead of making smart trolling remarks, read the tread from the beginning and make a constribution.thx
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 09:37:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 09:42:00
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
Cardassius sorry mate but you dont know what your talking about in this case, did you bother to read the thread at all ?. This has nothing to do with client lag UNLESS to do with the way it connects to EVE. Alot of the complaints are also to do with small engagemants 6 ships and lower. Please comment when you have bothered to read up on the issue rather than make non constructive comments.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Raindrop
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Posted - 2004.06.14 10:33:00 -
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I have a Dual PIII-1gig, 1 gig (dual 512 sdram 2-2-2 speed reached 800mb/s)
Nvidia FX5900XT (aopen)
Used to have the kind of lag you guys describe. Maybe still have it. But after mem upgrade i was doing a lot better. In last major conflict CFS/SA vs CA i had some lag but ctrl-tab made it playable. After all this time only getting 3 frame pod trip in every battle i'm happy but otherwise i can imagine the lag to be frsutrating. And i wouldn't mind seeing CCP smarten VID and sound up.
Raindrop
Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 10:45:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 13:08:21
Edited by: Talon SilverHawk on 14/06/2004 10:53:39
Originally by: Raindrop
I have a Dual PIII-1gig, 1 gig (dual 512 sdram 2-2-2 speed reached 800mb/s)
Nvidia FX5900XT (aopen)
Used to have the kind of lag you guys describe. Maybe still have it. But after mem upgrade i was doing a lot better. In last major conflict CFS/SA vs CA i had some lag but ctrl-tab made it playable. After all this time only getting 3 frame pod trip in every battle i'm happy but otherwise i can imagine the lag to be frsutrating. And i wouldn't mind seeing CCP smarten VID and sound up.
Why do ppl keep quoting this client issue, alot of the peeps posting also have ubar setups.
Im Running a
P4 3Gz at 3.3
1 GIG of PC3200 also OC
2 SATA 120GB running in raid 1 stripe
ATI 9800PRO 256
Audigy Platinum EX
3Mb connection
I recently upgraded mine. After my upgrade I noticed an improvement but it does not explain the recent events which has taken a turn for the worse. Please read the thread this has been mentioned a few times and discounted.
This isnt the OLD lag please stop refering to it or read the thread properly.
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.06.14 12:18:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Iluyen on 14/06/2004 12:19:48
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
And this matters how? We are playing EVE. The only thing that makes EVE worth playing is pvp. Pvp often involves large groups of players shooting.
The game should be able to handle it. It if it isn't EVE simply won't be worth playing any longer.
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Karhig Duruckhai
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Posted - 2004.06.14 12:30:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Karhig Duruckhai on 14/06/2004 12:31:40
Originally by: Cardassius
Guys, let's see how ANY fps based game server like:
Quake 1-2-3
Halflife
BF 1942/Vietnam
can hold up 100+ gamers shooting 10-20 projectiles constantly on 1 server (since 1 server consists of more than 1 system i count 100+).
The server may be able to keep it up but YOUR pc won't because it has to render it. Especially the guys with NVidia cards :)
Not been playing the new Joint Operations:Typhoon Rising Demos then? Their servers max out at 200+ (in beta testing) and around 120 in public servers, so it is possible, whats more, JO's optomised for dial-up modem play (apparently), so you can get decent (50+) numbers even on a naff connection. Rather spoiled your point now haven't I, sorry 
Of course, thats only network lag. By the time you get to those numbers you ARE going to get graphics lag, and because of the nature of EVE, you can always see (and so render) the entire battle, whereas FPS you can only see a small section of it.
The solution would prosumably be to have different quality gradients depending upon camera distance from an object. Also all the other options to lower quality/turn effects off etc that people have already mentioned.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.06.14 12:44:00 -
[92]
We have a number of small issues causing some very interesting problems, that cause us not to be able to show that performance increase that was supposed to come (being worse in many cases).
We are working our asses off fixing this "#$% &$%$& $%&&%$$%&, and will post a devblog about this and it's affect on patch release, since I don't really feel like adding a patch onto the current problems
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"That's Clarence Oveur! Oveur."
Oveur has allready been made aware of the problem, and CCP now know about the lag issue. Thank you CCP for looking into this.
This way we can get back on track, and continue to make this the best online game ever.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Jandon Kell
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Posted - 2004.06.14 13:51:00 -
[93]
Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can decrease whatever lag i do experience. I only run ts when im running eve.
Like everyone else the lag seems worse lately, and for the first time i actually looked at how eve was performing and it's using around 80% of cpu, and even more. The lag seems horrible, even if i'm alone in a belt npc hunting.
Any help is appreciated.
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Andrew Redburn
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Posted - 2004.06.14 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Andrew Redburn on 14/06/2004 14:08:23
Originally by: Jandon Kell
Does anyone have any suggestions on how i can decrease whatever lag i do experience. I only run ts when im running eve.
Like everyone else the lag seems worse lately, and for the first time i actually looked at how eve was performing and it's using around 80% of cpu, and even more. The lag seems horrible, even if i'm alone in a belt npc hunting.
Any help is appreciated.
Regarding CLIENT lag:
Try to have as few Guiwindows open as possible. for example chats, cargo, scanner, etc. whatever you dont need close. Run in fullscreen, it performs a lot better. If that is still not enough, there is the chance of CTRL-TAB (hide all gui windows).
512MB Ram for one client is a possible hardware upgrade if you dont have or even a 9600Pro for ~110€.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2004.06.14 14:36:00 -
[95]
I see a lot of people making suggestions that are meant to be helpful, but I also see tons of experienced people from several regions, on opposite sides of a couple of very serious wars, agreeing on one thing only, their experience of battles, especially larger ones, being totally unplayable.
This is my experience as well. My last fleet battle was a few days after the upgrades and lag was HIDEOUS, as bad warping to a gate battle as it used to be pre-castor jumping into a mined and droned JIP. Unplayable is an understatement. Very soon (if not already) nobody with sense is going to join these large battles, which account for a significant portion of ôstorylineö, at least for the moment in EVE. How are we going to resolve conflicts, binding arbitration? Scordite mining competitions? [/sarcasm]
Please CCP, fix this. WhatÆs the point in mega corps and alliances if we canÆt fight in large groups?
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Moros
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Posted - 2004.06.14 15:14:00 -
[96]
The thing that really gets me on this thread, is that not one CCP representative has even replyed to this topic.
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Heidern
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Posted - 2004.06.14 15:19:00 -
[97]
I've been in many large fleet battles and to be REALLY honest the only lag i experience is my video lag, yea it takes me like 10-15 secs to load the 8349573498573 objects floating around before i am fully functional, but other than that its on my side as far as all the **** in space im having to render and such. Havnt really expereinced server side lag but maybe like a total of 10 times. And as far as lagging like hell in a 3vs3 battle uuummmmmm that is unheard of to me, theres something wiggin out or something, 3vs3 and lagging like that makes no sense i just dont see that being on CCP's end, i dont see how it could be but i dont know anything just what i hear and experience, just wierd though! 
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Talon SilverHawk
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Posted - 2004.06.14 15:31:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
We have a number of small issues causing some very interesting problems, that cause us not to be able to show that performance increase that was supposed to come (being worse in many cases).
We are working our asses off fixing this "#$% &$%$& $%&&%$$%&, and will post a devblog about this and it's affect on patch release, since I don't really feel like adding a patch onto the current problems
___________________________________________
"That's Clarence Oveur! Oveur."
Oveur has allready been made aware of the problem, and CCP now know about the lag issue. Thank you CCP for looking into this.
This way we can get back on track, and continue to make this the best online game ever.
The thing that gets me about these threads is the ppl that dont read them properly. CCP have answered as per Einherars post above... Get with the program ppl
Tal
What goes around comes around...
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Alexandra Belani
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Posted - 2004.06.14 15:44:00 -
[99]
In respect to the bringers of major mustard I concur....now which side am I on?
Love and Drunken Freedom
Alexi
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Zen Jakkaru - "Alexandra Belani (Most sexy terr |
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Posted - 2004.06.15 05:13:00 -
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lol got love ccp
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