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        |  Adriel Malakai
 Shoulda Checked Local
 Break-A-Wish Foundation
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 00:56:00 -
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 Ammzi wrote:Adriel Malakai wrote:No. The reality of the situation is that the player named, The Wis iirc, should quit eve and seek professional help if he's considering suicide because he got ganked in a video game.
 Everyone calling for The Mittani's resignation/ban is clearly out for political gain by his removal, and don't actually give a **** about The Wis. If people actually gave a damn about the miner, they'd be focusing on helping the guy to move on and improve his life, not calling for blood.
 
 Stop being hypocrites.
 "It's the victims fault for being bullied." Hmmm... where have I seen that before? ~major news reporting on suicides ~ 
 Nice spin work - you clearly tried hard.
 
 The point is that this is EVE, where people are dicks, douchebags, and go out of their way to mess your **** up. It is advertised as being 'hard-core' and gritty. If you come here expecting different, then it is your fault. If you get so attached to a video game that you go into depression because you lost a ship, then you should step back. Sure, calling for people to gank him until he kills himself is pretty douchey, but was clearly put in jest.
 
 Who actually believes that someone who says they'll kill themselves over a game over the internet is being serious? Very few. Why? Because people get pissed off and say stupid ****. This is the same, in my mind, as someone getting pissed and telling me they'll kill me, or my family, because I blew up their Rattlesnake (actually happened). I didn't take this seriously because it was some guy who was angry that he lost tons of ISK he worked his ass off for, and it was exceedingly unlikely he was going to hunt me down and kill me.
 
 The Mittani has clearly stated his regret for making a statement that has been blown *way* out of proportion by people who have much to gain by his removal from the CSM and/or the game. Granted, his presentation was terrible, but that was more because it wasn't funny when it tried to be. Either way, maybe you should try actually helping out The Wis, rather than standing here shouting, "RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" because you don't like The Mittani and are jumping at the chance to knock him down a peg.
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        |  Mireidor
 Tactical Knightmare
 
 36
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:02:00 -
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 The person above me has ruined this thread by making a tl;dr post.
 
 Having met The Mittani at Fanfest and having seen his alliance panel presentation, I disapprove of resignations and find that next year the alliance panel should include more carebear tears and suicide threats.
 Hold on to your hooves, I am about to be BRILLIANT!
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        |  SpaceSquirrels
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:15:00 -
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 Nah... Just need to own up to your mistakes. Apologize man to man really.
 
 Picking on a depressed person kinda like making fun of someone handicapped... I mean not a whole lot of sport in it...especially if they're not there to defend them self or punch you in the face...
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        |  Triskian
 GoonWaffe
 Goonswarm Federation
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:15:00 -
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 No checkbox no vote.
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        |  Arkady Vachon
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
 16
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:17:00 -
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 No, an apology is satisfactory to me. And resigning only gives validity to the ongoing witch hunt to depose The Mittani and get him banned for a foolish mistake.
 
 Let CCP decide what punishment, if any beyond making a public statement, is warranted.
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        |  Kilylol
 Dreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:31:00 -
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 Checkbox.
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        |  Alpheias
 Euphoria Released
 0ccupational Hazzard
 
 547
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:32:00 -
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 No. CSM needs him more than ever before, CSM6 did a great job and CSM7 is going to continue that.
 
 As far as I am concerned, he doesn't owe anyone an apology because people do stupid things and say stupid things all the time regardless if they are drunk or not.
 I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
 I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
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        |  OfBalance
 Caldari State
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:33:00 -
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 Where's the option for kicking the rest of the CSM and nominating him Dictator for life?
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        |  Endeavour Starfleet
 
 749
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:34:00 -
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 No, He should not resign.
 
 Was the presentation in rather poor taste? Yes, but that is it.
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        |  Issler Dainze
 Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
 The Honda Accord
 
 1331
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:37:00 -
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 Sadly, yes.
 
 I think the work he did in the CSM 6 has given the CSM 7 the structure and model to succeed without him. If he stays it sends the players the wrong message about CSM accountability and the public the wrong message about the nature of Eve.
 
 The benefits of him staying are far outweighed by the damage of him remaining.
 
 Issler
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        |  Frying Doom
 Black Thorne Corporation
 Black Thorne Alliance
 
 20
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:38:00 -
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 I would have to say Yes.
 
 This is going Viral and if its not fixed to not just our but now the gaming media's satisfaction this could seriously blow up in CCP's face.
 
 I thought the apology was nice and factual, hell we have all been drunk as hell and done things, biggest problem now is how everyone else now views this. Last year The Mittani got stuck in the middle of "The Summer of Rage", this year he could be the cause.
 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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        |  Kethry Avenger
 PIE Inc.
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 18
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:39:00 -
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 No.
 
 He should apologize, which it looks like he did. He should return the scammed money from earlier and replace the loses his alliance caused. His alliance should offer the individual real protection for the month or so it takes this to blow over.
 
 Humans do dumb things and make mistakes, one really stupid moment shouldn't invalidate the other good work he has done. If you don't want him as chair next year vote for someone else.
 
 Oh and he should probably lay of the trolling on the forums for a while.
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        |  Aki Sindari
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:41:00 -
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 Isn't one of the EVE mantras actions have consequences?
 
 I guess it is only a cold hard universe if you aren't a Goon.
 
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        |  Nambr1
 Brutor Tribe
 Minmatar Republic
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:42:00 -
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 yes
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        |  Jafit
 Dreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:45:00 -
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 Checkbox
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        |  Mistress Lilu
 Science and Trade Institute
 Caldari State
 
 45
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:48:00 -
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 yes, yes and yes..
 
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        |  Nick Bison
 Bison Industrial Inc
 Thundering Herd
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:48:00 -
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 Yes
 
 Nothing clever at this time.
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        |  Sisohiv
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:49:00 -
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 No!!
 
 Save Derpy! er, I mean Mittani!
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        |  RogueMind
 Deep Core Mining Inc.
 Caldari State
 
 0
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:49:00 -
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 He's going viral because you idiots want to see your name as "the source" from the EVE Online playerbase.
 No, he should not resign
 Needs more checkbox.
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        |  Tebb1288
 Ion Corp.
 Citex Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:50:00 -
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 no
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        |  Diamaht Nevain
 Avatar Union
 
 7
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:51:00 -
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 No
 
 That was a sincere apology. We all have head to mouth issues sometimes, especially with alcohol
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        |  Katsami
 The Drunken Empire
 Fatal Ascension
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:53:00 -
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 Aki Sindari wrote:Isn't one of the EVE mantras actions have consequences?
 I guess it is only a cold hard universe if you aren't a Goon.
 
 
 So if I snag a cookie before dinner I should have my hand cut off?
 
 There are different levels of consequences, and I honestly believe that an apology and a bit of public scorn is enough.
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        |  Kimmiy Kimasre
 University of Caille
 Gallente Federation
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 01:58:00 -
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 No, since he posted a well-written apology.
 
 But I still support a sort of CSM impeachment, if only to establish that some behaviors are better left to private chat, for the good of the whole player base.
 
 Please note, impeachment does not mean removal from office. It is just an official inquiry into conduct. It would do a lot to keep the non-gaming media from stirring up the dirt again a few weeks or months from now when they need a story about bullies and social media.
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        |  Shade Severii
 Satan's Escorts
 MIDGET CHUCKERS
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:02:00 -
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 no
 
 Guys a huge douchebag
 
 But this is EVE ffs
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        |  Xen Solarus
 Inner 5phere
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:03:00 -
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 YES
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        |  Frying Doom
 Black Thorne Corporation
 Black Thorne Alliance
 
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       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:07:00 -
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 RogueMind wrote:He's going viral because you idiots want to see your name as "the source" from the EVE Online playerbase.No, he should not resign
 Needs more checkbox.
 Nice sentiment but with DUST 514 due out soon I don't think he will even have a real choice it will probably be resign or get kicked. This could really cost CCP money and one hell of a bad name, which they don't need after last years fiasco.
 Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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        |  Zleon Leigh
 
 103
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:07:00 -
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 Yes
 
 But not necessary. CCP's enforcement of the rules will take care of it.
 
 BTW - dog ate my homework and all the drinking made me run over someone. I'm totally without fault.
 Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
 
 CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day
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        |  Anashka caldari
 Terra Incognita
 Intrepid Crossing
 
 4
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:10:00 -
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 Yes
 
 Disgraced the entire EVE community
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        |  Ashuva Uesugi
 STAHLSTURM
 
 3
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:14:00 -
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 No,
 and Yes.
 
 He should resign from Chairmen but stay in CSM and take any sentence that come to him as a man.
 
 He apologized official, good thing, he apologized personally to the victim, he gave the victim about 10+ Billions very good thing.
 
 But he needs to learn to be more mature in such kind of things.
 
 And we should not forget what he achieved in the game and for us players. When real life lawyers get on it and can get on it depends on the laws of the countrys, that will be ccp or his problem. And this will be another thing that we should wait for.
 
 So my vote is NO Chairmen for Mittani, but second in the line in CSM.
 
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        |  Souvera Corvus
 SPORADIC MOVEMENT
 
 16
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.03.27 02:16:00 -
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 I think it'll be taken out of his hands.
 
 If a CCP employee had managed to attract this much opprobrium as a result of their puerile drunken gobshitery, I'd fully expect them to be summarily dismissed the following morning.
 
 His apology was well done but I'm not sure CCP will see that as enough.
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