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Magnus Orin
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
139
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:13:00 -
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26/10,059
Not bad, but you still have a ways to go OP. |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
200
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:21:00 -
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Even though I dislike the goons, and I think the Mitanni has reaped what he sows to some degree on this issue, this is the atmosphere that CCP claims to want in their game; cuthoat and hardcore, where bullying in game, and apparently in the metagame is enabled.
Given that CCP wants this stuff, I'll say no.
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JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:32:00 -
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I like how the 10059 votes gets tossed around so easily.
But when I looked at the demographics of voters, I found over 8400 voters were from accounts less than 30 days old. One of the largest groups of that particular demographic.
It is wonderful for such raw noobs to feel a civic duty to vote in an election on issues they really know nothing about.
Of course, they may just have been a flood signups to the conveniently timed buddy plan whose main character signed them up just to buy a vote. Using plexes to fund another spot in the line at the polls is a very economical way to buy an election. I wonder how many of those voting 30 day old accounts will be around beyond the end of the special buddy plan period?
How revolutionary would that be? |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
675
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:35:00 -
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No, and my money is on Issler stepping down first in a big huff because no one will take him/her seriously on the CSM after this.
Here's your sign... |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
676
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:42:00 -
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JusFooling Around wrote:I like how the 10059 votes gets tossed around so easily.
But when I looked at the demographics of voters, I found over 8400 voters were from accounts less than 30 days old. One of the largest groups of that particular demographic.
I hate to demolish the premise of your logic, but that statistic you saw means they were older than 30 days but less than 250.
You couldn't vote this time around if you weren't at least 30 days old iirc.
Here's your sign... |
Zathryon
Amarr General Drilling and Construction
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:49:00 -
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look, I hate the Mittani and everything he stands for...on the other hand I totally respect a voted official. I voted for Mittani the first time. And even though I dont like him I respect his ability to get **** done.
that said, I think CCP has a hard line to play. I really dont want to disenfranchise a lot of voters who genuinely wanted Mittani. However, leaving Mittani as a representative of CCP and EVE is going to be a big blemish on their record. Whether you want it or not, Mittani is going to represent the company and I'm not sure if a small company like CCP can afford that, especially when they are on the cusp of someting huge. Also, consider that if CCP does allow him to continue the media response is likely to be that CCP allows or even condones this kind of behavior. Bad publicity can make or break any company. I'm NOT saying Mittan=CCP death, there is NO WAY I could know that. However, I think the possibility exists and I dont think its worth it.
There is a completely objective reason for voting yes for Mittani's resignation. |
JusFooling Around
JusFooling Around Corp
50
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:52:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:JusFooling Around wrote:I like how the 10059 votes gets tossed around so easily.
But when I looked at the demographics of voters, I found over 8400 voters were from accounts less than 30 days old. One of the largest groups of that particular demographic.
I hate to demolish the premise of your logic, but that statistic you saw means they were older than 30 days but less than 250. You couldn't vote this time around if you weren't at least 30 days old iirc.
I totally apologize, I will look again at the demographics, when I have time but I did not want to wait on my apology until I return from my up upcoming road trip which departs soon.
Thank you for setting me straight in such a cordial manner. |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
150
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Posted - 2012.03.28 17:52:00 -
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Yes,
Given all my reasonings in other threads so no need to repeat them. |
Josefius
13th Tribe of Kobol Expeditionary
54
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:00:00 -
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IBTL |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
324
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:01:00 -
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JusFooling Around wrote:But when I looked at the demographics of voters, I found over 8400 voters were from accounts less than 30 days old.
Haha. You really believe that? With such biased reading and thinking I am amazed you managed to register for this game.
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Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
48
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:03:00 -
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Yes...
Then have him banned from EVE. 
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Ivana Twinkle
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:07:00 -
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i dont vote unless i can vote checkbox |
Hotaru Yamato
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
28
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:09:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:i dont vote unless i can vote checkbox
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Cailais
Rekall Incorporated
Sinewave Alliance
248
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:10:00 -
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Yes. Purely because it draws a line under the issue and we can move on.
C.
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Enormously Huge
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:10:00 -
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Yes, and he should be banned. |
Blatant Forum Alt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
105
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:12:00 -
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If Mittens is banned, can everyone who has ever sent a death threat ingame also be banned?
Oh wait, there will be about 4 people and the japanese noobs left if that happened... |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
116
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:16:00 -
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Yes,no or GTFO? |
Lyrelle
Vae-Victus
Lunar Industries Partnership
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:27:00 -
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Yes and he should be permanently banned. |
Delegado Cero
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
102
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Posted - 2012.03.28 18:34:00 -
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No.
But he should resign as CEO of Goonwaffe, remorse is not a good quality. |
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:21:00 -
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to my mind this is getting a little out of hand with regards to peeps forum posts .I watched the HD stream of his performance on the stream . and tbh he made a complete **** of his self
How about this as a compromise mittens is allowed to keep his account however a condition of this that he is not allowed to stand for any CSM roles for a minimum set period determind by the player base . a proviso of this is that he resigns ALL of his roles in goonswarm and is compelled to leave the goonies as part of his punishment . .... for a set period of time untill he realises the ramifications of what he has said live on tv . to my mind absaloute power corrupts absaloutly and i think in this case this is what has happend heh at the end of the day internet spaceships is a seroius business [:=d
lets face it he has essentially embarressed the eve community in front of the world with what he said and how can ccp grow the player base if new players get the impression that we all have this type of attitude and are prepared to conduct our selves in such a manner live on tv . like i said hes essentially got to big for his boots and thinks hes untouchable whilst he has made a public apology to the playey concerned and paid a siutable recompense to said player i wouldnt want him kicked out of the game
tldr mittens has got too big for his boots and should be punished but in essence the playerbase need peeps like him although i dont allways advocate his particular style of play or attitude i dont want to see him kicked i personally think this is a suitable comprimise ....discuss yes im posting with an alt cos i cannot be arsed with the flames . |
Lord Reid
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:24:00 -
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Ivana Twinkle wrote:i dont vote unless i can vote checkbox
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Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:27:00 -
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Would it not be appropriate to start a thread calling for his suicide?
Ya know... just so we can see CCP swiftly respond to "threats" against one of their most favoured customployees? |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
58
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:29:00 -
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Blatant Forum Alt wrote:If Mittens is banned, can everyone who has ever sent a death threat ingame also be banned?
Oh wait, there will be about 4 people and the japanese noobs left if that happened...
Well there was this one guy called Boson who was banned for that.
Also, I'd be fine, because I've never made a death threat to anybody in game or out. Except maybe when I was about 8 years old and my brother took my scooter off me.
But seriously, I'd be fine if everybody who makes death threats was banned. Not seeing the problem. |
Agent Kyoo
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:32:00 -
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YES
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Notorious BIG
Spiritus Draconis
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:33:00 -
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Yes,
He should resign from CSM as chairmen as he represent eve online and the community.
He crossed a line drunk or not and must bare some consequences for that.
Should he be banned ?
I would leave that up to CCP, in however they feel the negative publicity effecting their game.
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Lotta Mullarkey
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:36:00 -
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Even though IGÇÖm not a big fan of the Goons, I still say NOGǪ!!!
If he himself decides to step down as head of the CSM as he promised he would, than thatGÇÖs another matter entirely. But it should still be HIS decision and HIS ALONEGǪ! I donGÇÖt think CCP should force him to take the fall for this. In fact, I believe CCP has foregone their ability to force him out of the CSM chair. Saying you expect people to show reasonable conduct during an alliance panel is one thing. But not screening presentation material beforehand while at the same time allowing panel members to consume copious amounts of alcohol during the presentation is another and a recipe for disaster at that. They should have realised the potential for something like this to happen. (-1 to CCP).
He did apologise, and although I agree that it is near impossible to judge the sincerity of a written statement, I do believe he meant what he said. IGÇÖve seen the alliance presentation and he sucks as an actorGǪ (Sorry if youGÇÖre reading this Alex, but itGÇÖs trueGǪ). Let Mittens be the villain en EveGǪ Let him have his 10,059 votesGǪ A lot of people who are not terrible fans of the Goons still appear to applaud all the work Alex did during his previous CSM charmanship. So I still like to believe itGÇÖs Alex who's CSM and not Mittens.
This whole GÇ£blown out of proportionGÇ¥ witch-hunt needs to stop and CCP needs to step in and start locking treads like this one. If this so called PR disaster results in a code of conduct for CSMGÇÖs and alliance panel representatives during future EVE events, than I will be more than satisfied. ItGÇÖll probably do more good to CCPGÇÖs reputation than simply booting someone out of the game because they had a terrible lapse of judgement while under the influence of alcohol. |
lachesis
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:50:00 -
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Lotta Mullarkey wrote:Even though IGÇÖm not a big fan of the Goons, I still say NOGǪ!!!
If he himself decides to step down as head of the CSM as he promised he would, than thatGÇÖs another matter entirely. But it should still be HIS decision and HIS ALONEGǪ! I donGÇÖt think CCP should force him to take the fall for this. In fact, I believe CCP has foregone their ability to force him out of the CSM chair. Saying you expect people to show reasonable conduct during an alliance panel is one thing. But not screening presentation material beforehand while at the same time allowing panel members to consume copious amounts of alcohol during the presentation is another and a recipe for disaster at that. They should have realised the potential for something like this to happen. (-1 to CCP).
He did apologise, and although I agree that it is near impossible to judge the sincerity of a written statement, I do believe he meant what he said. IGÇÖve seen the alliance presentation and he sucks as an actorGǪ (Sorry if youGÇÖre reading this Alex, but itGÇÖs trueGǪ). Let Mittens be the villain en EveGǪ Let him have his 10,059 votesGǪ A lot of people who are not terrible fans of the Goons still appear to applaud all the work Alex did during his previous CSM charmanship. So I still like to believe itGÇÖs Alex who's CSM and not Mittens.
This whole GÇ£blown out of proportionGÇ¥ witch-hunt needs to stop and CCP needs to step in and start locking treads like this one (another -1 to CCP for not doing soGǪ Yet). If this so called PR disaster results in a code of conduct for CSMGÇÖs and alliance panel representatives during future EVE events, than I will be more than satisfied. ItGÇÖll probably do more good to CCPGÇÖs reputation than simply booting someone out of the game because they had a terrible lapse of judgement while under the influence of alcohol.
but do you not think that if we as a community were not allowed to discuss this type of stuff on our own forums what would the rest of none playing observers think about what eve is all about ...at the end of the day we are all ambassadors for this game and if one of the most prominent players is going to conduct him self whilst apparently representing the whole communty ....then what does it say about the rest of us ...i say no to a thread lock in this case ...this is something that needs to be discussed by the whole community ...imo .... my main is prolly one of the oldest characters in eve .... and i simply cannot condone this type of behaviour live in front of the world .... like i said i dont want him kicked but he does need to be set an example by the player base as a hole ...... i have played since 2003 ...and quite frankly im embarressed by his attitude and his perfomance in front oh the world |
DarthNefarius
Ssssansha'S Deathhead Einsatzgruppen
108
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Posted - 2012.03.28 19:52:00 -
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Bibosikus wrote:Yes
EDIT 27/3 pm:
But -
They should have banned alcohol from the stage, or allowed it and not filmed it. Or a compromise between the two. This isn't hindsight 20-20, this is Television 101. Live tv + alcohol = trouble.
I disagree reality TV 101 just add alcohol & ratings & controversy go through the roof.
You need to go back to shcool kiddo... there is no such thing as publicity rule is giving Eve a spotlight right now.
I hope it does attract new subscribers.
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Above said I hope intead of resignation the CSM has a vote of Censure and Mittens quitely accepts it.
I don't beleive they should impeach him but if they do then there should be an Eve wide vote to keep or toss him.
What he said any worse them getting a BJ from monica lewenski & lie ing about it? Or ransaking the watergate equilenent in order to dig up dirt on Darius III? One other US president was impeached & he survived getting tossed out by a very few votes I recall
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Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
15
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:05:00 -
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Yes
I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
adam smash
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 20:05:00 -
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Hey everyone in eve your all ******* low life assholes and I hope a space rock kills each and every one of you and disables your closest loved one.
PS Sorry I was drunk when I typed that we all good right?! I mean I said sorry. 
O how could I forget to vote...
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