Originally by: General Windypops

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Molle sucks. He totally promised we'd all die tonight, and we ended up winning :(

You suck, Molle.

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed

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Originally by: Nick Curso

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This just in we all just got ****d by one smartbiombing raven :(

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Originally by: Alex V0X2

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We be killing. That is all.

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Originally by: The Slayer

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Someone fleet report dis stuff.

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Originally by: slip66

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Originally by: Alex V0X2

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We be killing. That is all.

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we be dieing now lol.

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Originally by: clagnuts

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most fun ive had in ages guys , thanks :)

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Originally by: Gay Whisper

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Death is surrounding us, the apocalypse is coming...

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Originally by: Imperian

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Edited by: Imperian on 12/09/2008 23:48:26
It's been a blast \o/

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0809/miniMAX_mshd.wmv

Thank you for coming and making our day :)

I think it was a win-win situation and fight.

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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We came, we saw, we killed, we died....

Great fun!!!

Quoting Molle: "AF's are the worst ship in the game. They're only useful if you have nothing else, so we're going to get rid of them..."

(he didn't actually say 'worst', but used a word that would get *'d by the filter)


Lag was not too bad for almost 500 people in a fight (traveling to the target system was actually far worse). In fact I'd say it was one of the servers better performances.
1/2-1 minute module lag, but scenes loaded fairly fast.

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Originally by: Newsflash

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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We came, we saw, we killed, we died....

Great fun!!!

Quoting Molle: "AF's are the worst ship in the game. They're only useful if you have nothing else, so we're going to get rid of them..."

(he didn't actually say 'worst', but used a word that would get *'d by the filter)


Lag was not too bad for almost 500 people in a fight (traveling to the target system was actually far worse). In fact I'd say it was one of the servers better performances.
1/2-1 minute module lag, but scenes loaded fairly fast.

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ofc there were no lag... for you!

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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Originally by: Touched darkness

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Edited by: Touched darkness on 12/09/2008 23:25:46
Molle this Molle that,aren you GBC guys cute? Maybe you should start wearing dresses in his honour.
It was fun fight,props GBC for giving us plenty of laughs and dying in hundreds,usual whine goes to CCP servers.

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Molle sucks. He totally promised we'd all die tonight, and we ended up winning :(

You suck, Molle.

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Originally by: Hey You

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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lets play the game quote the dumbest person in this thread.

Here is my quote.

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Originally by: Shubs

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Just incase you dont know... that only shows MM losses on a MM board ^^... i would like to see the day a NC entinty does a "AF" or "Drake" roam just for the fun of the game... but you guys take the game far to seriously

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Quote:

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lets play the game quote the dumbest person in this thread.

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Quote:

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Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

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Originally by: Hey You

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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lets play the game quote the dumbest person in this thread.

Here is my quote.

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members?

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now?

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

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Originally by: Shubs

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Edited by: Shubs on 13/09/2008 09:56:56

And Sorry but this is what you call

owned


l0l bob is winning the isk war

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Originally by: Shubs

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Just incase you dont know... that only shows MM losses on a MM board ^^... i would like to see the day a NC entinty does a "AF" or "Drake" roam just for the fun of the game... but you guys take the game far to seriously

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: ArmyOfMe

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actually makes me a bit sad to see how bitter the NC seems these days

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Originally by: Shubs

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Just incase you dont know... that only shows MM losses on a MM board ^^... i would like to see the day a NC entinty does a "AF" or "Drake" roam just for the fun of the game... but you guys take the game far to seriously

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Here is my quote.

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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What I don't get though is why if you knew they were coming in AF you didnt just slap up a ton of large bubbles on the gate and sit with a dozen or so insured smartbombing apocs orbiting at 15 to 20km from the gate?

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Originally by: deadmaus

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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What I don't get though is why if you knew they were coming in AF you didnt just slap up a ton of large bubbles on the gate and sit with a dozen or so insured smartbombing apocs orbiting at 15 to 20km from the gate?

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Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything.

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Originally by: deadmaus

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Because by the time we had calmed Plague down after he heard BoB were back in the vicinity it was too late to do anything

Originally by: Plague Black

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Originally by: Shubs

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Just incase you dont know... that only shows MM losses on a MM board ^^... i would like to see the day a NC entinty does a "AF" or "Drake" roam just for the fun of the game... but you guys take the game far to seriously

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Priceless.

I could not have done it better if I had placed an alt in the NC with the specific goal of making them look like idiots on COAD.

I demand more!

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Originally by: RaYaa

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Originally by: Shubs

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Originally by: Nightborder

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ownage

details here

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Just incase you dont know... that only shows MM losses on a MM board ^^... i would like to see the day a NC entinty does a "AF" or "Drake" roam just for the fun of the game... but you guys take the game far to seriously

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Look who's talking. Ze nano-cloak-bunnyhopping-omgitshootsbackrunforyourlife alliance member. Go cloak somewhere and keep quiet when big boys are playing.

Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Priceless.

I could not have done it better if I had placed an alt in the NC with the specific goal of making them look like idiots on COAD.

I demand more!

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you know, this guys is actually their fc
with ppl like that in charge, what could possibly go worng?

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Originally by: Plague Black

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"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Ruzmarin

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NICE RED SPOT ON THE MAP (ships destroyed in last 24 h) FOR REMINDER FOR ALL INTRUDERS...

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Originally by: Ruzmarin

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NICE RED SPOT ON THE MAP (ships destroyed in last 24 h) FOR REMINDER FOR ALL INTRUDERS...

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Originally by: Ruzmarin

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NICE RED SPOT ON THE MAP (ships destroyed in last 24 h) FOR REMINDER FOR ALL INTRUDERS...

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Originally by: Hey You

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I changed my mind about most idiotic post in the thread. Actually Plague Black came and posted along with that ex bitter RzR now in Collsup or whatever noob :P

Since i cba to quote anymore ill just ask you Plague hows preps for Jita life going on?

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Originally by: Nightborder

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And...if it was just for funny...why you guys traveled 10 jumps over P3 to come to Tribute....instead to make fun in M-O??? Traveling around isn`t so fun right?

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Originally by: General Windypops

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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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In fact I'd say it was one of the servers better performances.
1/2-1 minute module lag, but scenes loaded fairly fast.

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Originally by: Ignition SemperFi

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FFS. MM stay off COAD

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Originally by: General Windypops

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Originally by: General Windypops

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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected])

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Oh for heaven's sake, are you not aware of my epic recent success against my mortal foes?
Aaargh - my frigate backbone!
I nearly had him :(

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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In fact I'd say it was one of the servers better performances.
1/2-1 minute module lag, but scenes loaded fairly fast.

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Only a 0.0 alliance drone would find 1 min module lag a thing to be pleased about

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Originally by: dedlyasasin

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I find it pretty hilarious that MM members usually avoid CAOD like plague, but when they manage to kill some frigs (OMG MORALE BOOST!) they come pouring out of the woodwork. Honestly, I think that's got to be one of the most pathetic things I've seen yet from the the NC.

Try the morale boost posts when you manage to win a cap fight, take back a region or a station.

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Originally by: DrDooma

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Originally by: dedlyasasin

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I find it pretty hilarious that MM members usually avoid CAOD like plague, but when they manage to kill some frigs (OMG MORALE BOOST!) they come pouring out of the woodwork. Honestly, I think that's got to be one of the most pathetic things I've seen yet from the the NC.

Try the morale boost posts when you manage to win a cap fight, take back a region or a station.

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What moral boost?
Have you seen our KB? Our k/l for serious PVP ships(AF not included) for this week is almost 3 to 1 or better.

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Celebrate your trivial successes. There won't be many more to celebrate soon.

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Originally by: Herm0dhr

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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr

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Celebrate your trivial successes. There won't be many more to celebrate soon.

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Are you leaving?

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Plague Black

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Now some serious questions to GBC. Does your morale suck so bad that you need to go out and suicide 300 ships just to entertain your members? Or was this just another attempt at some jammers using different approach then BS gangs you were sending for days now? Maybe you ran out of T1 fitted battleships so you need to fly frigs now?

"Thank you, come again".

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Originally by: Aut Nihil

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I seem to recall similar remarks when you were rotating in VFK

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Originally by: DTCore

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Edited by: DTCore on 15/09/2008 13:10:57

Originally by: Aut Nihil

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I seem to recall similar remarks when you were rotating in VFK

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If you want to I have some more material for you:

NC vs GBC (bigger then 10vs10 enounters only):

MSHD 12.09. - 399 confirmed kills / around 60 confirmed losses - 7 billion isk damage inficlted on GBC and NC gets to loot the field
D7 13.09. - 22 kills / 2 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots the field
H-W 13.09. - 128 kills / 40 losses - 9 billion damage, NC loots
D7 13.09. - 22 kills / 0 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots
WH 14.09. - 76 kills / 15 losses - 4 billion damage, NC loots
MSHD 15.09.- 10 kills / 0 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots

That would come to around over 600 vs 100 losses with NC looting the field every time in 3 days and GBC taking over 15 billion damage in fleet ships only (remember that bob pets do not have reimbursement program). And that only what killboards tell us. ULTIMATE COMEDY! I hear GBC pilots belly laughing at their current performance!! And I give them full right, it is funny, almost ridiculous.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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I hope you understand that all you are doing is motivating BoB to wipe the NC off the face of the map. Are you a boB alt?

PS- How long does the GBC have to moon mine Pure Blind, Fade, Dek and Vale to recover all that ISK? A week?

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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lol

I hope you understand that all you are doing is motivating BoB to wipe the NC off the face of the map. Are you a boB alt?

PS- How long does the GBC have to moon mine Pure Blind, Fade, Dek and Vale to recover all that ISK? A week?

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Originally by: DTCore

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And you wonder why is NC holding togehter for so long. Alliances based on friendhips and common goals last much longer then allinces based on ego of a single person. NC will be standing where it is long after bob has writen their last page in EVE history.

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Originally by: Isabel Sweet

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Thank you have a nice day.

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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I hope you understand that all you are doing is motivating BoB to wipe the NC off the face of the map. Are you a boB alt?

PS- How long does the GBC have to moon mine Pure Blind, Fade, Dek and Vale to recover all that ISK? A week?

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If they are not motivated by the embaressment they are my posts will not help. Maybe another comedy gang? T2 haulers perhaps?

Also, does every corp in GBC get the share of the moon mining bob has taken alone? I doubt it. It is only a matter of time when pets will start moving back to rat and do missions to be able to follow GBC great leaders into lemming runs. NC gets accused of hiding isk from their members by bob, alliance that sits on trilions of isk and yet lets it's allies suffer on their own. And when pets get invaded the only message they will get from bob leadership will be "DIE". Just like FIX or other ex-meatshield alliances.

Too bad some people have such short memory to remember what kind or ally bob is. And you wonder why is NC holding togehter for so long. Alliances based on friendhips and common goals last much longer then allinces based on ego of a single person. NC will be standing where it is long after bob has writen their last page in EVE history.

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Originally by: DTCore

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Edited by: DTCore on 15/09/2008 13:10:57

Originally by: Aut Nihil

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I seem to recall similar remarks when you were rotating in VFK

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If you want to I have some more material for you:

NC vs GBC (bigger then 10vs10 enounters only):

MSHD 12.09. - 399 confirmed kills / around 60 confirmed losses - 7 billion isk damage inficlted on GBC and NC gets to loot the field
D7 13.09. - 22 kills / 2 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots the field
H-W 13.09. - 128 kills / 40 losses - 9 billion damage, NC loots
D7 13.09. - 22 kills / 0 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots
WH 14.09. - 76 kills / 15 losses - 4 billion damage, NC loots
MSHD 15.09.- 10 kills / 0 losses - 1 billion damage, NC loots

That would come to around over 600 vs 100 losses with NC looting the field every time in 3 days and GBC taking over 15 billion damage in fleet ships only (remember that bob pets do not have reimbursement program). And that only what killboards tell us. ULTIMATE COMEDY! I hear GBC pilots belly laughing at their current performance!! And I give them full right, it is funny, almost ridiculous.

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Originally by: DTCore

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If they are not motivated by the embaressment they are my posts will not help. Maybe another comedy gang? T2 haulers perhaps?

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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...and Hydra said goodbye...

Or I suppose could just stop posting so you don't like quite so stupid when history repeats itself.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Or I suppose could just stop posting so you don't like quite so stupid when history repeats itself.

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Originally by: hisgoatness

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Originally by: DTCore

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If they are not motivated by the embaressment they are my posts will not help. Maybe another comedy gang? T2 haulers perhaps?

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whats more embarrassing, losing some insurable fleets, or losing whole regions, outposts, moons, a titan, and a few motherships?

But dont worry, Im sure your k/d ratio will defend your sov4 constellations for you.

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Originally by: DTCore

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Edited by: DTCore on 15/09/2008 13:56:29

Originally by: hisgoatness

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Originally by: DTCore

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If they are not motivated by the embaressment they are my posts will not help. Maybe another comedy gang? T2 haulers perhaps?

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whats more embarrassing, losing some insurable fleets, or losing whole regions, outposts, moons, a titan, and a few motherships?

But dont worry, Im sure your k/d ratio will defend your sov4 constellations for you.

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1. How do you insure over 500 assault frigs and t2 ship? Devhax tools?
2. If loosing regions makes you look stupid, and Iron and Pure are stupid for loosing one region each what does that make BOB when they lost multiple regions not so long ago?
3. If you claim that KD ratio is all that matters, then your enemies start braging about having excellent KD ration against you and you start claiming that KD rations are totaly irrelevant what does that make you? Spineless liar? Worthless PVPer? Help me out please, I cant decide on the right answer.

Ah GBC tears are sweet. I wonder when will they move back, proclaming that main goal was achieved, and that was to kill Hydra!!!

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Originally by: hisgoatness

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Blah blah giberish giberish

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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...and Hydra said goodbye...

Or I suppose could just stop posting so you don't like quite so stupid when history repeats itself.

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Don't tell me you made Hydra leave

You really deserve a Darwin award for this post. Allow me to quote you:

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Or I suppose could just stop posting so you don't like quite so stupid when history repeats itself.

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Yeah, that applies perfectly to your post. Except that you already look stupid braging about evicting Hydra.

Please more comedy: BOB evicts Hydra, NC crumbles in cloud of dust, RA disbands and and Goons commit mass suicide!!!

What is next you will claim. Guristas paying taxes to you?!?

Ah how bitter an a dog get these day.

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Originally by: DTCore

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1. How do you insure over 500 assault frigs and t2 ship? Devhax tools?
2. If loosing regions makes you look stupid, and Iron and Pure are stupid for loosing one region each what does that make BOB when they lost multiple regions not so long ago?
3. If you claim that KD ratio is all that matters, then your enemies start braging about having excellent KD ration against you and you start claiming that KD rations are totaly irrelevant what does that make you? Spineless liar? Worthless PVPer? Help me out please, I cant decide on the right answer.

Ah GBC tears are sweet. I wonder when will they move back, proclaming that main goal was achieved, and that was to kill Hydra!!!

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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But, i'm sorry to say that your failed troll isn't helping you avoid that

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Originally by: Ethen Bejorn

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You can post all you want. It is not going to save you. Really.

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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But, i'm sorry to say that your failed troll isn't helping you avoid that

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You brag with evicting Hydra and I look like a fool. Aaaaaalllriiighhhhttt!!!!

And since when do your posts have any substance? Find me one and I'll frame it.

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56
The Truth about NC

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56
The Truth about NC

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No no no no, lag really belongs on your side, always had and always will. ZLZ is an excellent example of your ultimate pvp skills where it took nc fleet that was about to crush you like bugs 20 minutes to make 2 jumps. You must be very proud of yourself I see for being able to "outsmart" everyone by lagging the node to death.

Also carrier blobs and fighter lag is also on your side mostly since all you do is take the jammer down and then overblob the system with caps. Fair enough, you need them since you yet to win a fight in north involving regular fleets only. Maybe in a month or two you might kill one m-o camp or catch a lone farmer so you can brag about it some more here. Until then stick to cap blobs since your support fleets are totaly sub par lately.

Also I do remember you used multiple titans multiple times so why not push that also on your side. Dual doomsday seems to be your speciality, there is no shame in admitting you use it a lot since your regular fleets are just NC cannon-fodder.

I don's see metagaming on that list, why? Like spies who empty poses and turn them off or constant stream from NC teamspeak you have access to (which does not really help lately to be honest). Add that and suddenly the picture looks very different, doesn't it? You seem to forget metagaming constantly, I thought you are proud for bending rules of the game to achieve your goals or are you ashamed of being beaten by guys whose every move is known to you?

Time will tell I guess.

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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Edited by: Lord WarATron on 15/09/2008 19:26:56
The Truth about NC

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No no no no, lag really belongs on your side, always had and always will. ZLZ is an excellent example of your ultimate pvp skills where it took nc fleet that was about to crush you like bugs 20 minutes to make 2 jumps. You must be very proud of yourself I see for being able to "outsmart" everyone by lagging the node to death.

Also carrier blobs and fighter lag is also on your side mostly since all you do is take the jammer down and then overblob the system with caps. Fair enough, you need them since you yet to win a fight in north involving regular fleets only. Maybe in a month or two you might kill one m-o camp or catch a lone farmer so you can brag about it some more here. Until then stick to cap blobs since your support fleets are totaly sub par lately.

Also I do remember you used multiple titans multiple times so why not push that also on your side. Dual doomsday seems to be your speciality, there is no shame in admitting you use it a lot since your regular fleets are just NC cannon-fodder.

I don's see metagaming on that list, why? Like spies who empty poses and turn them off or constant stream from NC teamspeak you have access to (which does not really help lately to be honest). Add that and suddenly the picture looks very different, doesn't it? You seem to forget metagaming constantly, I thought you are proud for bending rules of the game to achieve your goals or are you ashamed of being beaten by guys whose every move is known to you?

Time will tell I guess.

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Originally by: hisgoatness

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is this guy this week's Baghdad Bob? "We are winning the war guys, honest."

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Originally by: Minyme

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Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?

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Originally by: Minyme

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Originally by: hisgoatness

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is this guy this week's Baghdad Bob? "We are winning the war guys, honest."

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Our mighty Republican Gaurd is beating back the American pig-dogs on every front. Any moment now Our Glorious Leader shall lead the Invincible counter attack and be supping mojitos in the white house by tea time.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?

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I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.

It seems a remarkably good trade.

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Originally by: Minyme

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Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?

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I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.

It seems a remarkably good trade.

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Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!

If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?

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I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.

It seems a remarkably good trade.

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Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!

If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.

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This is too much, I'm calling 'BoB alt' on you now.

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Originally by: Doddy

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Edited by: Minyme on 16/09/2008 08:31:38

Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Minyme

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Maybe those defeats are blocked by your subconcience because you can not accept getting killed like noobs?

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I'm sure they're happy to lose some assault frigs if it means gaining 4 regions, countless high end moons, and getting multiple supercap kills into the bargain too.

It seems a remarkably good trade.

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Denial, denial, denial! Grow up and admit that they are loosing much more then just assault frigates. The count is at some 700 losses against less then 150 kills in the past week. 700 mostly t2 stuff!!!! And they (you included) don't even have the courage to say GF! NC has been giving them beating after beating and GBC still brags about being unbeatable. Those times are long gone, GBC is now a watered down version of ex-bob, and let's face it, NC has plenty of pvp-veterans who would own any GBC pilot any time of the day NOT USING METAGAMING AT ALL!!!

If someone can be called "Baghdad Bob" that would be all the bobits and their suckups putting down NC victories. We all know this is part of your tactics which is now turning back on you since you can not hack into killboards and change those embaressing defeats in any way. Just learn to live with it, your time is long gone, face the truth and it will set you free.

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This is too much, I'm calling 'BoB alt' on you now.

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Yeah, he overdid it. (it was all those exclamation marks i think). Bit sad i got trolled, again.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.

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Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.

The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.

Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).

I wish them a good run.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.

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Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.

The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.

Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).

I wish them a good run.

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I've heard of spin and don't mind a bit myself, but you're really trying too hard to polish that turd.

the acid test will be how much space NC hold in 3 months

I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?

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NC has put their ships and their assets where their mouth is, how about your ships? Jita? Even bob stages from empire or npc stations, so don't be ashamed of admitting that all you can do is forum rant.

If NC is so fail what are you when you got humiliated by them? They hold space for years, and all you hold is "sad poster" award.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: DTCore

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?

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NC has put their ships and their assets where their mouth is, how about your ships? Jita? Even bob stages from empire or npc stations, so don't be ashamed of admitting that all you can do is forum rant.

If NC is so fail what are you when you got humiliated by them? They hold space for years, and all you hold is "sad poster" award.

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If you call destroying 200bn of their ships 'fail' then yes, we failed ever so hard... I've always called it a phyrric victory and that point remains as salient as ever

anyway, 10bn isk says they hold less space than they do now in three months time - put your money where your mouth is, or get out my CAOD

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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We'll forget all the 'MAX-FAIL' NC alt posts they made shortly before after GBC began their campaign... and shortly before IRON lost all their space, VFK fell, 5 motherships died, PURE lost Vale, and Hydra said goodbye.

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Good old Bitter Nub, crap propaganda at its best.

The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy. Boring camps 24/7 revealed their effect weeks after, when in times of need none was there to do it anymore.

Further more, the NC lost that much space because of attacks in 3 different zones in space. No matter how they'd defend, no matter who'd defend, when facing this kind of attacks, everyone loses (and lost) here and there (aka BoB having been pushed to Delve only).

I wish them a good run.

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I've heard of spin and don't mind a bit myself, but you're really trying too hard to polish that turd.

the acid test will be how much space NC hold in 3 months

I'm happy to make a sizeable ISK bet that it will be less than they do now - care to put your money where you mouth is?

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.

The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.

The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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The NC lost that part of Deklein because of their strategy.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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If you call destroying 200bn of their ships 'fail' then yes, we failed ever so hard... I've always called it a phyrric victory and that point remains as salient as ever

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Originally by: Fred0

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Except you seems to have zero grasp of what a pyrrhic victory is.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Beating INSRG had no negative affect on us at all

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RZR lost most but the only thing that took any time to replace is the titan

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Originally by: PooooBear

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Also Metal Dude, way to know how to read. He wasn't talking to you, nor about BoB.

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Originally by: PooooBear

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Bitter Dog, you're pretty dumb. A pyrrhic victory is a victory with irreplaceable losses. You didn't inflict them irreplaceable losses, in fact, Insurgency barely managed to scar them then proceeded to lose every PR support for the "underdog" thanks to a series of terrible forum posts by you and darth solo, which switched the public opinion to "they might be underdogs but damn if they're annoying".

Also Metal Dude, way to know how to read. He wasn't talking to you, nor about BoB.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Actually, phyrric victory is a term used to describe not just irreplaceable losses (although it can be, and is), but overwhelming losses to achieve very little, and is commonly used in that context.

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Originally by: PooooBear

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Actually, phyrric victory is a term used to describe not just irreplaceable losses (although it can be, and is), but overwhelming losses to achieve very little, and is commonly used in that context.

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No. Save the money from your EVE subscription and buy a dictionary.

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Fred0

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Beating INSRG had no negative affect on us at all

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RZR lost most but the only thing that took any time to replace is the titan

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Good post.

And since I have to spell it out: the damage it inflicted on you was showing you up. RZR and INSRG were a similar size, you were more established with Sov systems and greater ISK reserves.

The damage that conflict caused to you was that it proved, once and for all to any doubters, that RZR can do nothing alone, are nothing alone, and in the wider scheme of things are a weak alliance who have only ever relied on numbers to achieve anything.

Without your numbers prop, your alliance is nothing and you know it. INSRG scared you, you blobbed them with the NC, you lost far more than you gained, and then you crowed 'victory!'.

Shallow, hollow, and utterly pathetic

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Originally by: Doddy

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Edited by: Doddy on 16/09/2008 16:05:26
A phyric victory isn't to do with either irreplaceable nor very heavy losses. It simply means a victory isn't worth the cost of acheiving it. What this means in terms of losses is entirely down to circumstance. A victory with irreplaceple or heavy losses is not phyrric if it acheives its goal.

It comes from Pyrhus the great who beat the romans again and again but as he lost most of his army and the romans wouldn't give up he had to go home. If the Romans had given up it wouldn't have mattered how many losses he had.

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Originally by: TWD

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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You're wasting time by trying to make me bite. But well, you're wasting time anyway.

The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.

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Then why did you leave them?

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Originally by: PooooBear

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According to the American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition,

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Originally by: PooooBear

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American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy

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Originally by: PooooBear

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American Heritage New Dictionary

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Originally by: queen1121

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Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam

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The NC are a good bunch of guys, they'll do what they'll do and live peacefuly with it. Pretty neat, compared to what others do.

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They will live peacefully with anyone they can't blob to death, aka. they're afraid of, hoping to maintain status quo without any real dedication, basicly getting lazy, fat and rich.

Well tide is changing.

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Originally by: PooooBear

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However, the matter at hand is that BD claims that Razor achieved a Pyrrhic victory. They didn't. They just... won.

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Originally by: Butzew

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LOL,
I see BoB came alone on MAX campain and only attacks with smaller gangs that their oponent has, just to not outblob them ....
also those 300+ capital ships are only a "blob whanabe"

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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....Without your numbers....your alliance is nothing ....

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Originally by: PooooBear

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Edited by: PooooBear on 16/09/2008 17:05:34

Originally by: Doddy

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Edited by: Doddy on 16/09/2008 16:05:26
A phyric victory isn't to do with either irreplaceable nor very heavy losses. It simply means a victory isn't worth the cost of acheiving it. What this means in terms of losses is entirely down to circumstance. A victory with irreplaceple or heavy losses is not phyrric if it acheives its goal.

It comes from Pyrhus the great who beat the romans again and again but as he lost most of his army and the romans wouldn't give up he had to go home. If the Romans had given up it wouldn't have mattered how many losses he had.

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You know how much I appreciate a discussion about antiquities but alas, I have to disagree with you.

When you say "If the Romans had given up it wouldn't have mattered how many losses he had", therein lies the dilemma. Because a Pyrrhic victory, as it became known afterwards, is a victory that definitively costs you the outcome of the war, to the point which is considered the same if not worse than a loss.

According to the American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition, a Pyrrhic victory is "A victory that is accompanied by enormous losses and leaves the winners in as desperate shape as if they had lost."

Had he defeated the Romans, and then proceeded to win the war, a Pyrrhic victory would have just meant a costly victory, or it wouldn't have been famous enough to have an idiom after itself.

However, the matter at hand is that BD claims that Razor achieved a Pyrrhic victory. They didn't. They just... won.

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Originally by: CCP Oveur

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...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed

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Originally by: Kilostream

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Edited by: Kilostream on 16/09/2008 19:18:01

Originally by: Butter Dog

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....Without your numbers....your alliance is nothing ....

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Quoted for genius value - brilliant!

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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It appears you are misinfored on what MAX is. Max is our Grifing campaing since nobody attacks us anymore, we may as well greif the hell out of everyone else until they can take no more. The next best thing to having 24/7 pvp is the tears of ejecting someone out of their homeland by force!

Most NC leaders know all about what Max is really about, dunno why they do not tell their members though.

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Originally by: Veldya

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BoB is just happy to metagame the game to death, they don't realise how much the way you play harms the environment. You guys stoop to cheap tricks for minor victories, you cheat in any way you can possibly get away with. For an alliance based on honor you fight more like terrorists than a noble elite force.

People will either not act and you will inevitably dominate the whole map and put pets into positions all over the map effectively destroying the ability for the other powers to stop BoB from doing what they want or everyone will get sick of it and another coalition will form.

MAX is driven on the back of the pets, the same pets gone missing during the last coalition and the same pets that will go missing again. Rent-a-corps just have no incentive to get annihilated and they will turn their backs on you if another coalition comes.

If BoB defeats the NC the other major powers will topple like dominoes, you will have pets controlling most of space that is worth controlling and BoB will be rolling around in more isk than all the Chinese farmers combined. BoB's decision to act is more about wealth than purpose, what did you guys hit with Max? Run and secured all RA weakly defended moon mining operations.

I think that highlights the intention of MAX. How many high-end moons do BoB have? 200? 300? Where is all the isk going? ;)

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Originally by: PooooBear

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Actually, phyrric victory is a term used to describe not just irreplaceable losses (although it can be, and is), but overwhelming losses to achieve very little, and is commonly used in that context.

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No. Save the money from your EVE subscription and buy a dictionary.

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Originally by: lonesomegirl

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Are you saying that NC is better than -A- ? Or is the sky falling?

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Originally by: Butter Dog

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Originally by: Fred0

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Beating INSRG had no negative affect on us at all

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RZR lost most but the only thing that took any time to replace is the titan

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Good post.

And since I have to spell it out: the damage it inflicted on you was showing you up. RZR and INSRG were a similar size, you were more established with Sov systems and greater ISK reserves.

The damage that conflict caused to you was that it proved, once and for all to any doubters, that RZR can do nothing alone, are nothing alone, and in the wider scheme of things are a weak alliance who have only ever relied on numbers to achieve anything.

Without your numbers prop, your alliance is nothing and you know it. INSRG scared you, you blobbed them with the NC, you lost far more than you gained, and then you crowed 'victory!'.

Shallow, hollow, and utterly pathetic

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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When INS was fighting NC I clearly remember TRI comming to help them in big numbers including supercaps. The result was a failure cascade of both INS and TRI ceasing to exist and INS loosing any credibility they ever had in EVE.

Back before that TRI was involved into an intial Delve invasion that failed. Only second time, without TRI did allies do very well against BOB and got stopped by multiple titans on cyno jammers only while BOB was cornered in few systems.

Nowdays we have GBC who are flying next to TRI. Will this be a turning point in tri history or will GBC fail miserably like all previous TRI allies? If I was GBC I would never fly next to TRI for anything just becouse of possible bad luck that alliance brings to its allies.

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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Only second time, without TRI did allies do very well against BOB and got stopped by multiple titans on cyno jammers only while BOB was cornered in few systems.

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Originally by: hisgoatness

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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Only second time, without TRI did allies do very well against BOB and got stopped by multiple titans on cyno jammers only while BOB was cornered in few systems.

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hows that strategy working out for you now?

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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To be honest NC is doing better then bob was when they were loosing region after region.

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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... destruction of bob. Regardless of how long it takes bob is going down.

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Originally by: Veldya

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Originally by: Lord WarATron

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It appears you are misinfored on what MAX is. Max is our Grifing campaing since nobody attacks us anymore, we may as well greif the hell out of everyone else until they can take no more. The next best thing to having 24/7 pvp is the tears of ejecting someone out of their homeland by force!

Most NC leaders know all about what Max is really about, dunno why they do not tell their members though.

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BoB is just happy to metagame the game to death, they don't realise how much the way you play harms the environment. You guys stoop to cheap tricks for minor victories, you cheat in any way you can possibly get away with. For an alliance based on honor you fight more like terrorists than a noble elite force.

People will either not act and you will inevitably dominate the whole map and put pets into positions all over the map effectively destroying the ability for the other powers to stop BoB from doing what they want or everyone will get sick of it and another coalition will form.

MAX is driven on the back of the pets, the same pets gone missing during the last coalition and the same pets that will go missing again. Rent-a-corps just have no incentive to get annihilated and they will turn their backs on you if another coalition comes.

If BoB defeats the NC the other major powers will topple like dominoes, you will have pets controlling most of space that is worth controlling and BoB will be rolling around in more isk than all the Chinese farmers combined. BoB's decision to act is more about wealth than purpose, what did you guys hit with Max? Run and secured all RA weakly defended moon mining operations.

I think that highlights the intention of MAX. How many high-end moons do BoB have? 200? 300? Where is all the isk going? ;)

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Originally by: Metal Dude

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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... destruction of bob. Regardless of how long it takes bob is going down.

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Is that you InnerDrive? Sure sounds like the same rubbish from FA war.

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Originally by: Cassiuss

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BoB going down? LOL. Oh where do I start...

Where is Orange Species when you need him.

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Originally by: Helen

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Originally by: Cassiuss

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BoB going down? LOL. Oh where do I start...

Where is Orange Species when you need him.

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Oh hey sexinub o/

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Originally by: Cassiuss

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Originally by: Helen

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Originally by: Cassiuss

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BoB going down? LOL. Oh where do I start...

Where is Orange Species when you need him.

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Oh hey sexinub o/

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Hi Lova.

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Originally by: CHIKA QRE

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It took the coallition much less time to push bob into delve and take parts of it, killing all bob pets in process then what gbc has achieved so far in MAX.

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