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kyuuki
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:08:00 -
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Where are the cruise launchers? i dont think its fair to just nerf the seige launcher without putting these ina t the same time.
wtf is up with that? ----------
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SaintLuck
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:15:00 -
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This is a biggie,,,
We can no longer use cruise missles on frigs, cool, no biggie, knew it was coming.
The problem is that light missles are still sitting at 1000km/s. I thought the base speed was supposed to be 3000?
If they do stay at 1000 please explain to me how they r suppose to be effective? I mean cmon, that speed was and still is a joke. I hope its just a typo and they really r doing 3000kms.
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Tokka Konnair
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:16:00 -
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weren't Cover-Opps frigates supposed to appear this patch? they're not on the market
Originally by: Xavier Cardde As the black programmer smoker from Jurassic Park Said.
Hold on to your butts.
it's Samuel L. Jackson as Dr.Ray Arnold ... get it right  __________________________________________
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:17:00 -
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I really really dislike the Stop button - it's so out-of-place.
Kinda like finding a goldfish in your beer when you specifically ordered vodka.
Anyway, I think releasing the patch onto an unreliable server was always going to be a bad idea. Releasing a very buggy patch with missing features was even worse 
Still, I can understand the pressures you were under to release something so I hope all the impatients little sods like Eve for the next few days 
I'm sure the Dev's are working their Icelandic bottoms off to fix the bugs.
Let's remain calm people.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Ukiah
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: kyuuki Where are the cruise launchers? i dont think its fair to just nerf the seige launcher without putting these ina t the same time.
wtf is up with that?
Well, it's not like those modules were on Chaos. I mean, if the Cruise Launchers and Ballistic missile controls and the new fangled skills were on Chaos, they'd have been added, right?
Oh, wait. They WERE on Chaos? .....

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Hanilein
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:21:00 -
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I spend weeks to train the skills for my Punisher to use wto MWD's on it. The speed is now halved and all my skill training is wothless because the cap's running low very fast.
This is crap and as far as i know unannounced (Wight doubling of the Punisher). I consider it atherefore as a Bug - and if CCP insists on this changes i want the invested skill points back for other now more neccessary skills.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:21:00 -
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i'm not usually one to complain about patches right after their deployment, but this is kinda critical: the market does not work for me, if i want to browse the market tree or sell something, the "market loading" window freezes at 95.1 and i can't do -anything- apart from quitting the game.
if i search for an item it finds it, but then if i choose the item and query it's supply locations, the window loads and re-loads and so on, again only quitting solves the case.
i've tried right-clicking both windows and closing them, they reopen. i've tried clearing the cache, no avail.
please, give us hotfixes! :) ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard ::
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DeMundus
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert I really really dislike the Stop button - it's so out-of-place.
Kinda like finding a goldfish in your beer when you specifically ordered vodka.
Agree... when i see a fat stop sign i atomatically think I have to stop.... Its way out of place thank u!
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Veskrashen
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:25:00 -
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Missile speeds for player missiles has not changed that I have seen. Description still has the old speeds and flight times. They seem to work just fine for NPCs though!
Damage for torpedos and FOFs do not seem to have been updated either. Light FOFs still do 40 damage base, torpedos still say 450 damage base.
No new skills have been added that I have seen.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vex Seraphim i'm not usually one to complain about patches right after their deployment, but this is kinda critical: the market does not work for me, if i want to browse the market tree or sell something, the "market loading" window freezes at 95.1 and i can't do -anything- apart from quitting the game.
if i search for an item it finds it, but then if i choose the item and query it's supply locations, the window loads and re-loads and so on, again only quitting solves the case.
i've tried right-clicking both windows and closing them, they reopen. i've tried clearing the cache, no avail.
please, give us hotfixes! :)
This is exactly the problem I'm having in Verge Vendor, though it works fine in Everyshore.
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Tristan
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:32:00 -
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Most bugged patch EVAR!
well done beta testing team, j00 roxx0rz 
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SaintLuck
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: kyuuki Where are the cruise launchers? i dont think its fair to just nerf the seige launcher without putting these ina t the same time.
wtf is up with that?
DITTO^10
Tell me, how many months will we need to wait for those launchers now? If its anything like their other promises,,,
I have no idea at all how those reviewing the patch prior to launch could miss some of these glaring issues!
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Tenashi
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:35:00 -
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Quote: The hardware upgrade is now completed. We want to thank all users for their patience and understanding on the extended downtime, and we hope that you will appreciate the improved performance during high load periods
Quote: We are however not adding the 32 new nodes that were quarantined due to the server issues, to be able to debug the patch on identical hardware setups
no wonder it didn`t improved much at all... so what was the hardware upgrade then? does this mean we`ll have yet another extened dt for hardware upgrade 4? or is this just a coverup as of a tremendus bottleneck some where of a total failure that the reason is given that the full hardware upgrade wasn`t completed?
sry, but ur being abit contradicting as fleet battles were never supposed to go with less lag as there wasn`t much performance added, just bull****(or am i wrong?)
been with eve since end alpha and still love it, but it`s getting out of hand as joshua stated aswell. may we have an good blog on what really is going on PLEASE???
Everlasting Vendetta - Search |

Babyhuey
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:39:00 -
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So far so good, haven't encountered any problems yet. Had no problem downloading patch, logging in.
Mission NPC pirate bountys seem to have skyrocketed, not sure if this was intentional or not, i.e. Guristas Inferno now 225k from 85k. "If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month." T.R. |

Jayad
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:42:00 -
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just a weak complaint from me - the stop button is nasty. Oh well i guess shiva will bring a whole new UI soon anyway
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Iece Quaan
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:44:00 -
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Hey guys, thanks for breaking up the trade channel into 5 separate channels.
It's not as if there was anything better to do.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:46:00 -
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So, where are the Recon Frigates? I have a theory on this.
Castor - Interceptors Shiva - Recon Kali - Bombers
Why not just charge us $20 a month and hire some ppl to add stuff to the game, or sell us an expansion pack.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 16:54:00 -
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Serious Problem: Corp members no longer have a default +10 standing with their own corporation (i.e., all members of my corporation are now at 0 standing) which means that they cannot access station stuff in 0.0. This is obviously very bad. Can you please reinstate the default +10 standing for corp members?
The only people who can update corp standings are Directors, which is a serious problem if nobody with Director standing is on (and I'm not about to give tons of people who don't need it that status just for this bug).
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River Flow
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:20:00 -
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Market is not working. I get no categories when i select browse. When i search for an item the "getting quotes" screen sits there forever.
Escrow comes up and sits there, window will not go away anymore.
Also had 2 "system errors" from eve. Eve window pops-up with error and "ok" button. 4 big errors in 20 minutes. None in the 10 days before that.
I hope you can fix all these bugs, otherwise a rollback would be in order. It is not playable at the moment. Adding the days that everything is not playable to our accounts would be good bussiness practice.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:21:00 -
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no wait to see shiva...
will be OMGWTFWTH hehe
i still beta test
Since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5).... ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:24:00 -
[51]
Concord defended a secure can. Warning message before activating a module on an asteroid
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |

Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tenashi
Quote: The hardware upgrade is now completed. We want to thank all users for their patience and understanding on the extended downtime, and we hope that you will appreciate the improved performance during high load periods
Quote: We are however not adding the 32 new nodes that were quarantined due to the server issues, to be able to debug the patch on identical hardware setups
no wonder it didn`t improved much at all... so what was the hardware upgrade then? does this mean we`ll have yet another extened dt for hardware upgrade 4? or is this just a coverup as of a tremendus bottleneck some where of a total failure that the reason is given that the full hardware upgrade wasn`t completed?
sry, but ur being abit contradicting as fleet battles were never supposed to go with less lag as there wasn`t much performance added, just bull****(or am i wrong?)
been with eve since end alpha and still love it, but it`s getting out of hand as joshua stated aswell. may we have an good blog on what really is going on PLEASE???
No, it's like the two post say.
The hardware upgrades have also been detailed in previous devblogs, and this last extension was the last. It included new database servers and new nodes. We removed the new nodes because of the problems, and we won't add them for some time since we need to be able to debug with identical hw setups.
We can add and remove nodes from the cluster without taking the cluster down, but usually do it during the scheduled downtime. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Na'Axin
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:43:00 -
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some of the rats drop Small Energy Neutralizer I's with the Tech II mark on the top left of the icon.... are they suppossed to be Tech I or II?
plus I know the new combat system is suppossed to make hitting smaller ships harder.... but why on earth can't I hit a Guristas Mortifier (moa) with my 4 Dual 425mm's? I even got the thing WEBBED for *****s sake. I should have atleast had 1 hit out of the 300 rounds I fired at the guy
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |

Zeta Draconis
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:43:00 -
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---> The game is lagged as hell, in stations and outside them, in empty systems or in crowded ones. ---> Jumping or undocking takes bloody ages. ---> The UI is bugged, randomly not showing essential stats like armor/hull/shields and sometimes even modules. (rofl) ---> I cannot load other players' infos: when I click on a player's avatar the info box pops up but it is empty and stays empty forever ---> I can no more load other peeps' avatars (the images) ---> The 'non default' chat channels are no more working: they are listed in the channels' box but I cannot access them. ---> Everywhere I fly I see only threats (prolly the new security/aggression system?). ---> My corpmate (thank god we are a 2 peeps Corp) losed his +10 sec. status towards me and vice versa. ---> This web site is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lagged that just browsing it is really ****ing me off, wtf is going on guys???
Tbh, I won't fly anything apart a frigate with no modules or basic ones for the next days, since I fear that with lag + the new aggression system **** may (and will) happen...
Disappointed atm, hope it will improve...
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Oveur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:44:00 -
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From news that was posted earlier:
"We are experiencing the usual problems associated with patch day and are assembling fixes. Expect them to be deployed in downtimes before the weekend.
Known issues are missing market items, various standings display bugs, threat indication display reversed, and node deaths (resulting in stuck cases, lag on these nodes and CTD's)."
This includes the issues : - Missile modules (Cruise, dmg mod) and skills missing from market - Rails - Standing gain too much when pirate hunting (display bug, correct standing is on server) - Trade window
As always, Tech Level 2 additions are not visible from the market, they come through Research agents. First batch added roughly a week ago. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol. |

Albar Gray
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:46:00 -
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Just completing the 'A Case of Kidnapping' mission.
My large lasers had a few problems with the frigates as they got closer (Not unexpected) so I launched my 6 heavy drones. Unfortunately only 2 of them appeared on screen, and on my drones list.
Finally killed all the frigates and collected cargo, but there was no VIP.
I also retested launching the 2 drones I had recovered, and they also vanished.
I relogged, and returned to the mission point. All my drones and 3 cans were then present. Luckily one of the cans had the VIP and it allowed me to scoop the drones to my drone bay
This could just have been a lag issue, but it's not something I've ever encountered before ----------------------------------------------- IÆm not schizophrenic... ThatÆs my alt
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Luther
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Posted - 2004.06.15 17:52:00 -
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We at ATUK are experiencing major problems getting BS's to hit each other at optimal range and stationary, when ships are moving it is even worse. It is understandable to make it hard for a BS to hit a frig or a cruiser, but atm we are unable to hit each other at all. A few times yes. This is even with tracking mods . Our skills are maxed out in the weopon type each of our members prefer, but BS Vs. BS is very hard to get hit's. We would like to know if you are aware of the problem, or if it is something you intended  Other than that the patch seems ok and no other problems have been experienced. ===============================================
has recieved the Minmatar Medal of Honor (keyring) from the Minmatar President (the eve online store)
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Matrix Aran
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Posted - 2004.06.15 18:00:00 -
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I sugesest everyone calm down take a day off, go outside, look at the sun for a few minutes and then take a nap. Patch day = Bug day, we all know that yet most seem to never remember that. The same people screaming patch one day are then screaming take it back the next. Just be thankful for the good things that have happened. I for one am happy that caldari ships can finaly hunt rats with missiles and turn a proffit.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 18:02:00 -
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Oveur, the problem of corp standings to corp members is not a "display bug" and it is critical. There are other threads about this as well. In addition, there's apparently a limit of 200 poeple with whom your corp can set standings -- which will cripple my corporation. Can you acknowledge this? Certainly this was not intended?
What about the market being completely broken (not displaying anything and getting stuck at 95.1%)? Are you aware of this?
What about missle launchers not autorepeating?
I can have patience here, but at least some acknowledgement that you are aware of these things would help me put my mind at ease. :)
Originally by: Oveur From news that was posted earlier:
"We are experiencing the usual problems associated with patch day and are assembling fixes. Expect them to be deployed in downtimes before the weekend.
Known issues are missing market items, various standings display bugs, threat indication display reversed, and node deaths (resulting in stuck cases, lag on these nodes and CTD's)."
This includes the issues : - Missile modules (Cruise, dmg mod) and skills missing from market - Rails - Standing gain too much when pirate hunting (display bug, correct standing is on server) - Trade window
As always, Tech Level 2 additions are not visible from the market, they come through Research agents. First batch added roughly a week ago.
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Ishkur
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Posted - 2004.06.15 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Matrix Aran I sugesest everyone calm down take a day off, go outside, look at the sun for a few minutes and then take a nap. Patch day = Bug day, we all know that yet most seem to never remember that. The same people screaming patch one day are then screaming take it back the next. Just be thankful for the good things that have happened. I for one am happy that caldari ships can finaly hunt rats with missiles and turn a proffit.
This thread is for critical response so the Devs can fix the bugs in the patch. So your post, while I'm sure well intentioned, is not appropriate here. The point of this thread is to make the Devs aware of bugs (not to complain about the patch, I agree with you there) but if people went outside and didn't play, then the problems wouldn't get fixed, would they?
Stop the "everyone calm down" posts. I'm perfectly calm, just trying to give some feedback on things that are causing problems ATM.
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