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Ricdics Tleilex Developments	Posted - 2008.09.15 06:51:00 - [31] Yet another example of another way (NOT) to ask for money.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 07:04:00 - [32] Screen shot of my last two days in sales. I'm on call this week and have played very little. Runs on auto pilot.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.09.15 08:40:00 - [33] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Screen shot of my last two days in sales. I'm on call this week and have played very little. Runs on auto pilot. I fail to see what this substantiates?? Sales, of course, happen without you being present. And, nice numbers for a weekend but to be honest your activities are from tritanium sales to salvage sales to battleship sales. Again, nice activity, not going to knock you on that. But a system? A scalable system? That still does not substantiate your trustworthiness for an IPO nor does it refute my statement that your "advertising" was exactly that, "advertising". Here at the MD we don't need hyped up market spiels, that's for another area of these forums. Okay, let me explain it another way, perhaps to avoid a lot of conflict that you have built up... when seeking venture capitalism it is a given that a company will put its best foot forward. However the VC is going to what more than a pretty brochure as a prospectus. The other side of the matter is your "board of directors". Trust me I've been on one and I have to wonder if what you are describing is a group of people who will be holding the isk "instead" of you holding it. If you are the one holding the isk, what security does a board of directors provide? Now even though we've gotten off to a bad start, and you may dismiss me as a flamer or dork, the truth is that it is very likely you have looked at all the other sides of your business (like the spreadsheets on your super system) but have not really looked at how to run an ipo or a bigger corporate management situation. I only suggest this as there are, as Shadarle said, holes in your ipo document. I guess the next "valid" question would be, can anyone vouch for you? To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.09.15 08:42:00 - [34] Oh, and could you change that picture to a link? Breaks the forums something gawd awful and might get a mod on you. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 09:19:00 - [35] Short on cash? Invest in Tactical Trading Partnership using ships, equipment or resources instead of using ISK. If you have something that we need we'll take it in exchange for an agreed upon value in shares. Just off the top of my head, here are some examples. Say your a broke freighter pilot. You join the corp and invest your freighter for say 90 shares. Thats 11% of the corp and 810M in value. The corp now owns the freighter. You continue to fly that very same freighter but now on corp business. And when your flying for the corp u'll not only be 100% insured, you'll have support, intel, scouts and protection. And then 4 months later you decide that you don't want to be in the corp anymore and you want to do something else so you "cash out". I do the calculations and the corp has grown at 10% per month. Fully funded IPO where half the remaining shares are picked up by members and the other half are bought by investors would vest the corp with 9.2B on 1000 shares. After 4 months at 5% compounding interest the corp would be worth 11.5B, at 7% 12.06B and at 10% 13.47B! Lets say 7. Your 90 shares would cash out at 1.33B. That's a 64% return in 4 months. That's best case scenario but not un-doable. The corp sells you back your freighter at a mutually agreeable price and now you are a formerly broke freighter pilot with 510M ISK. This is a great arrangement for the corp. We get use of your skills and freighter. We dont have to spend a bunch of time making it or waiting for it to be built. We make a bunch of money by putting the asset to work. You make a bunch of money with reduced risk to you and your investment into the freighter and its cargo. And maybe we have some fun too when were not rolling around naked in our piles of ISK! Got good researched BPO's just sitting around? Put them to work. Got a bunch of minerals sitting out in some distant galaxy but cant get them to market? Put them to work. A PvP'er who has all is value wrapped up in his ships and mods makes zero ISK all the time of the day and night he is not playing. Trade is different. The vast majority of the entire corp value is working and compounding 23 hours a day, 7 days a week. The difference, it turns out, is huge.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 09:41:00 - [36] Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 15/09/2008 09:48:11 Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: Ttocs Rox Screen shot of my last two days in sales. I'm on call this week and have played very little. Runs on auto pilot. I fail to see what this substantiates?? Sales, of course, happen without you being present. And, nice numbers for a weekend but to be honest your activities are from tritanium sales to salvage sales to battleship sales. Again, nice activity, not going to knock you on that. But a system? A scalable system? That still does not substantiate your trustworthiness for an IPO nor does it refute my statement that your "advertising" was exactly that, "advertising". Here at the MD we don't need hyped up market spiels, that's for another area of these forums. Okay, let me explain it another way, perhaps to avoid a lot of conflict that you have built up... when seeking venture capitalism it is a given that a company will put its best foot forward. However the VC is going to what more than a pretty brochure as a prospectus. The other side of the matter is your "board of directors". Trust me I've been on one and I have to wonder if what you are describing is a group of people who will be holding the isk "instead" of you holding it. If you are the one holding the isk, what security does a board of directors provide? Now even though we've gotten off to a bad start, and you may dismiss me as a flamer or dork, the truth is that it is very likely you have looked at all the other sides of your business (like the spreadsheets on your super system) but have not really looked at how to run an ipo or a bigger corporate management situation. I only suggest this as there are, as Shadarle said, holes in your ipo document. I guess the next "valid" question would be, can anyone vouch for you? 1. It says that I just might have a business that works quiet well and turns out some pretty good numbers and deserves a closer look. 2. The Trust would hold 1001 valueless shares or "matching" shares, however you want to think of it. The Trust holds a majority and can take action if needed. Trustees will be rewarded in shares after a period of service. 3. I'm not absolutely certain it will scale. If it doesn't you can cash out any time you want. We trade in assets, assets have value. It could turn out that we don't make any money, but it would surprise to me if we lost some. If you notice also, I'm not offering any dividends, no bills to pay, nothing to slow the exponential growth. Just Boom City. See now youre makin some good points. I knew you could do it.
Bad Bobby Ugly Toys Zzz	Posted - 2008.09.15 10:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Got good researched BPO's just sitting around? Put them to work. I have some hi-sec research POSes and a vast array of BPOs on hand. I'm not about to sign them over to an unknown on trust (as no trust currently exists between us). However, I would consider dispensing a continuous stream of well researched BPCs to you. Any other research services you need can also be provided by my existing operation. Of course this would depend on this idea of yours taking off, which would probably require you to gain the favour of the same people you have already ticked off... so I'd be carefull with how you attempt to progress this idea.
Neidhardt Foster Sternenschauer AG	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:27:00 - [38] Thanks for answering my questions. At the moment I'm not looking for investment opportunities, because I think the best investment I have available is me (in fact I take loans from people that trust me). However I enjoy working with people and making deals that benefit both parts, thats why I'm interested in such an idea. But for now there is only the idea, so far you haven't given a concrete plan how this idea could work. No, I'm not interested in details of your current business, you make money with it and I believe that, no proof needed. Concrete points how such an idea could work are: How are people working for the enterprise rewarded? If only the increase in the shares value is taken, there is no incentive to put work into this. There should be some form of paying for the investment (be it time or money) a member undertakes. The idea of putting together a board of trusted persons to monitor the corp is nice, but who will that persons be? And a lot more, where I don't even know the questions As I said: I have no clue, how such an idea could work and up to now, you haven't given clues that convince me that it'll work. A few words of advice on where this thread is going. I think you got the posts by Shar and Shadarle wrong. There is no IPO where those two (in this community very trusted members) won't try to find the holes. Yes they have a "charming" way to put things, but that their first post wasn't a "For reasons x, y and z I classify this as scam", was actually a good sign. Dismissing their posts as "whining" or "flame" is something that hurts the credibility of your business idea in this forum a lot. Therefore I suggest you try to take their comments into serious consideration.
Redbad Minmatar Mean Corp Mean Coalition	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:37:00 - [39] Ttocs, if I look at your proposal from an investors view it is not appealing to me. An investor wants to calculate the business risk; then weighs whether to invest and then watch his investment grow or payout. He doesn't like to work for it, he likes you to work for it. You however, as I understand it, are proposing to set up a new corporation with people participating in some trading/industrial fun together and making profit together. If I can look at it like that, then I have to say that I've seen worse proposals for setting up a corporation and players to participate in. It might work better if you propose it in an alliance structure, so participants keep control over their assts/capital they bring in the agreement. Then it will be a "gentlemens agreement" on all sides. RB
Bad Bobby Ugly Toys Zzz	Posted - 2008.09.15 12:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Redbad It might work better if you propose it in an alliance structure, so participants keep control over their assts/capital they bring in the agreement. Alliances are expensive to set up, so that may be a non-starter.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.09.15 17:14:00 - [41] As this discussion continues what appears to be the case here is that you are recruiting for your corporation primarily, not really trying to run an ipo. And that's not entirely accurate as it seems you are trying to touch on all kinds of things, part recruiting thread, part money raising thread, part pawnshop thread. I guess it is this highly malleable overly ambitious nature that is confusing matters here. You title IPO, it should be about the IPO. If you are recruiting, you should have done something separate in recruiting. (Not just repost the OP.) If you are looking to buy people's stuff, again there is a forum for that as well. So what furtherance of the IPO discussion is going to happen? To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 17:47:00 - [42] Originally by: Neidhardt Foster Thanks for answering my questions. Concrete points how such an idea could work are: How are people working for the enterprise rewarded? If only the increase in the shares value is taken, there is no incentive to put work into this. There should be some form of paying for the investment (be it time or money) a member undertakes. The idea of putting together a board of trusted persons to monitor the corp is nice, but who will that persons be? 1. There certainly are some important specifics which have yet to be laid out and I wont accept a penny until they are worked out, like who will be on the Board of Trustees. I'm assuming that setting up the business will take several months and that money wont exchange hands until then. I started this thread for this very purpose. 2. Once again I havent dismissed any actual questions and I have spent quiet a bit of time answering them. Several of the post on this thread lack substance. They ARE, in fact, flames -- but it has add buzz and given me the opportunity to talk about my ideas, which is great. 3. I had been thinking about how this might work for awhile and wanted to give it a try. I have been in two corps now. One highly organized, large and in 0.0 and the other loosely organized, small and in 0.3 space. In both instances the corps where fun and I learned a lot but they made me no ISK directly. The corps had ops and taxes and grew and HOPEFULLY its members grow right along side. They did not truly harness the power of pooled resource and finances. My system allows for actual ownership and the shares have actual cash value, which will increase member and shareholder buy in motivation. We all truly share the risk and the rewards to whatever degree you choose. Invest all your savings and time or just a tiny percentage of your ISK. 4. As far as making ISK as member, all corp business is paid for buy the corp. The corp is the business and the business is the corp. You would be in exact same boat I am in. All my ISK and time goes into growing the corp. If you have a good money making idea the corp will back you, no personal ISK needed. Personal side ventures or buying shiny toys is your own business and you will have to come up with the ISK for it, same as if you were in an other corp. I will be investing about half my net worth and all my time, you can invest whatever proportion of the two you like. 5. More examples. A new player invests all his ISK and buys one share. He spends his time on corp business and has a lot of fun. He, as a new player is given "access" to the power of scale and volume, his money grows at the same rate as the Billionaire with 100 shares, and the corp get access to his time. Remember in trade and finance profit is all about scale and time. MONEY x TIME = MORE MONEY. The old saying, "Money makes money" right. A fat rich SOB has ISK and a current corp and business plan hes happy with but extra ISK and or resource which are just sitting around and not "working". Remember ever penny of ISK which sits in wallet your is wasted potential. Parked ships, expensive mods, stashed resource unless being used or invested are "dead" money -- as far as growth is concerned you might as well not even own them. So this fat SOB invests a bunch of his idle ISK and starts up a lucrative trade or manufacturing or whatever relationship between is corp and TacTP. His idle money is now working and hes participating in its growth, not just sitting around hoping his dividend check shows up each month. Getting any clearer?? Great questions keep them coming.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 17:57:00 - [43] Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 15/09/2008 18:03:26 Originally by: Shar Tegral As this discussion continues what appears to be the case here is that you are recruiting for your corporation primarily, not really trying to run an ipo. And that's not entirely accurate as it seems you are trying to touch on all kinds of things, part recruiting thread, part money raising thread, part pawnshop thread. I guess it is this highly malleable overly ambitious nature that is confusing matters here. You title IPO, it should be about the IPO. If you are recruiting, you should have done something separate in recruiting. (Not just repost the OP.) If you are looking to buy people's stuff, again there is a forum for that as well. You have also inspired me too change our motto. We win because we play smarter and we don't take sh*t from anybody. So what furtherance of the IPO discussion is going to happen? You seem to have a lot of subjective opinions about my style and you seem to have access to some secret rule book about how to post on this forum. I prefer to do it all right here since all the issue are interrelated.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:08:00 - [44] Originally by: Ttocs Rox 1. There certainly are some important specifics which have yet to be laid out Yes, firstly, why should anyone trust you? Originally by: Ttocs Rox 2.Several of the post on this thread lack substance. They ARE, in fact, flames -- but it has add buzz and given me the opportunity to talk about my ideas, which is great. Two things, you're the one that started talking shit. You apparently bit of more than you can effectively chew, get over it and stop whining. Secondly, the most insubstantial posting is from you. If you think "ad buzz" is something that will help you, think again. If you had a good chance this ipo would be half reserved already. /me looks around. Nope, don't see one reservation. At all. Originally by: Ttocs Rox 3. I had been thinking about how this might work for awhile and wanted to give it a try. Ah, now we get to it. You have a dream. Good for you. You can go line up behind all the other people with dreams. We'll get around to you with the same priority that we'd assign to everyone else with a dream. Like I said, if you are trying to build a corp... go to the recruiting threads and channels to go build one. I thought you were here asking for money? Originally by: Ttocs Rox 4. As far as making ISK as member, all corp business is paid for buy the corp. The corp is the business and the business is the corp. You would be in exact same boat I am in. All my ISK and time goes into growing the corp. Again, more recruitment posting. Originally by: Ttocs Rox 5. More examples. A new player invests all his ISK and buys one share. He spends his time on corp business and has a lot of fun. He, as a new player is given "access" to the power of scale and volume, his money grows at the same rate as the Billionaire with 100 shares, and the corp get access to his time. Wow, do I get to meet Tom Cruise as well? Oh, sorry, wrong infomercial. Originally by: Ttocs Rox So this fat SOB invests a bunch of his idle ISK and starts up a lucrative trade or manufacturing or whatever relationship between is corp and TacTP. Hmmmm... so it follows like this: 1 - Find Fat SOB (that's us remember) 2 - Call him Fat SOB. 3 - ???? 4 - He gives you his money. 5 - ???? 6 - Profit Originally by: Ttocs Rox Getting any clearer?? Very much so. What I can't understand is why you didn't say, "I hope that clears things up?" That would've been more polite to a prospective investor than the briefer and more hostile "Getting any clearer?" Asking it like that makes it seem like you are talking to a dense kid who wasn't getting it. Of course he's nothing but a Fat SOB though, right? All in all you still have failed to answer, legitimately, the trust question. And yes, I will keep asking about it, pushing it to the front of any discussion, and you will find that the only buzz you'll have is for a bunch of people I don't mind if you rip off. Heck, I kind of hope that some of the tards that will invest in you, to spite me, do so. It'll either speed up their education or weed them out of this industry. Either way, I'm here to stay. This thread is nice, comfy, and seems to have some legs on it. To Shar -verb: 1 - To say what you mean. 2 - To say what it means. 3 - To say something mean.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Tech	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:20:00 - [45] Who are you? Why should I trust you? Would you be willing to setup some sort of wallet viewer so I can view your transaction history and skills to confirm what you have said? Eve Commander or Sexy Wallet would do. Believe it or not I do understand what your trying to do, it's more the trust issue and can you actually do it that I am curious about. Your attitude will work for you and against you running a corp like this so It does not throw me off to badly. I speak for PROTON POWER not EBANK in this post. Please keep the 2 very seperated. Earn Isk on your Idle Isk Today!
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:32:00 - [46] Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT! This IPO is about fun and ISK. I'm looking for collaborators. Let talk about how to make it work. Ive had fun exchanging posts with you but the proportion of crap that you spew to useful commentary is very high. You want specifics? CRAP YOU SAY / USEFUL POINTS YOU MAKE = 10.6 Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I have detailed several mechanisms that would provide for investor security but you don't comment on those, just more subjective baloney and personal attacks. You might provide an actual IDEA or SUGGEST a way to increase security if you dont like my ideas... Naaa flame away. ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully. pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined.
Xabier	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:45:00 - [47] Edited by: Xabier on 15/09/2008 18:45:04 Originally by: Ttocs Rox Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT! This IPO is about fun and ISK. I'm looking for collaborators. Let talk about how to make it work. Ive had fun exchanging posts with you but the proportion of crap that you spew to useful commentary is very high. You want specifics? CRAP YOU SAY / USEFUL POINTS YOU MAKE = 10.6 Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I have detailed several mechanisms that would provide for investor security but you don't comment on those, just more subjective baloney and personal attacks. You might provide an actual IDEA or SUGGEST a way to increase security if you dont like my ideas... Naaa flame away. ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully. pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined. I think you might have better luck on the RP forums ;)
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Tech	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT! This IPO is about fun and ISK. I'm looking for collaborators. Let talk about how to make it work. Ive had fun exchanging posts with you but the proportion of crap that you spew to useful commentary is very high. You want specifics? CRAP YOU SAY / USEFUL POINTS YOU MAKE = 10.6 Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I have detailed several mechanisms that would provide for investor security but you don't comment on those, just more subjective baloney and personal attacks. You might provide an actual IDEA or SUGGEST a way to increase security if you dont like my ideas... Naaa flame away. ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully. pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined. Between all the flaming between you two did you miss my questions, working on answers, or just choose not to answer? Earn Isk on your Idle Isk Today!
Athre Minmatar The Higher Standard	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:56:00 - [49] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I guess you just do not get it. Several vets of this forum have explained to you in very nice terms why you are not being trusted. No trust = high scam potential I strongly suggest you read over the last month or two's worth of posts and IPO's to actually get a feel for what it is you are asking for. Remember you are coming hat in hand to this forum. Stop the infomercial and catch a clue or two from the plethora that have been given to you.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 18:57:00 - [50] By request, a little more about me. I started my current business model about a year ago on 10 or 15M. Thats million. For most of this time I was just messing around. I made plenty of mistakes. I stopped playing for several months. Then I noticed how much relative ISK can be made using my business model. I remember the days when I would shop around for the best price on a Mark II indy to save 50,000 ISK. The limiting factor on my grow was at that point was ISK. Money makes money. And now after a year of not overly serious play I have turned 10M into 10B. Thats 1000% return for those doing the math. But now my problem is time not capital its time. So I asked myself what if I expand the same model and started with 10B?? Anyone want to be a trillionaire? I do. At that point the corp will be more about power and less about trade. Might be fun. SO... no I do not have all the answers. I am looking for collaborators of all types. No dumbshts and no a*holes. We win because we play smarter and we dont take shit from anybody. Sincerely Tatical Trading Partnership CEO, Founder and Ass Kicker. Ttocs Draw
CornerStoner	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:06:00 - [51] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT! More whining and assumptions. You're on a roll here. Originally by: Ttocs Rox This IPO is about fun and ISK. I'm looking for collaborators. Let talk about how to make it work. Ive had fun exchanging posts with you but the proportion of crap that you spew to useful commentary is very high. You want specifics? CRAP YOU SAY / USEFUL POINTS YOU MAKE = 10.6 So you came here to recruit and get defensive? Originally by: Ttocs Rox Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I have detailed several mechanisms that would provide for investor security but you don't comment on those, just more subjective baloney and personal attacks. Your skin is thin. We noticed. Originally by: Ttocs Rox You might provide an actual IDEA or SUGGEST a way to increase security if you dont like my ideas... Naaa flame away. Ummm, It's YOUR job to increase security for investors. You want us to do all the damn work for you? Originally by: Ttocs Rox ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully. pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined. He/We/They do this all over the forum because giving ISK to anyone who comes along isn't the way things work. It's not being a bully. It's responsible investing. Allthough your idea/plan seems solid, your attitude has seriously damaged your reputation/chances of getting the investors here. Good luck.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:12:00 - [52] I agree 100%. Trust/security is the first issue. I have suggested several mechanisms to provide for this. Please comment. Please give suggestions. 1. Board of independent and known Trustees who have a controlling percentage. 2. Access to my current books and business model. 3. Regular audits and posting of the corp's books. 4. Given all the posting I have provided way more detail than most of the other IPO's I've seen out there and I am not even accepting any ISK atm. 5. Vested membership. 6. Vested shareholders. 7. Vested Board of Trustees 8. Personal investment of 4.5B or 51% of the risk. 9. Total flexibility, you can cash out anytime you want.
Proton Power Amarr Power Corrupts Tech	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:32:00 - [53] For potential investors don't bother. Can't even answer simple questions, instead rather continue the flamefest. Earn Isk on your Idle Isk Today!
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:34:00 - [54] I wish to subscribe to the OP's newsletter --
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:34:00 - [55] A lot of interpersonal weirdness on this forum, whats the deal? Your mad cuz I havent put in the time lurking in this forum listen to your pearls of wisdom? Your mad cuz you think my business model might work? I rather play alone then put up with a bunch of crap, I don't need your ISK. I started this post just to have fun and collaborate with interesting people with good ideas. Why the repeated personal flaming? Your just cluttering up my thread. You have a subjective opinion about me.. so? Go upstairs and tell it to your grandma. You wanna talk business? Lets talk.
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 19:36:00 - [56] Originally by: Proton Power For potential investors don't bother. Can't even answer simple questions, instead rather continue the flamefest. I thought was answer your questions. 1. Who am I 2. How will I provide for trust and security. Please rephrase, perhaps I didnt understand.
Frenden Dax	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Ttocs Rox Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 15/09/2008 19:53:48 interesting people with good ideas. Neither of which applies to you. This thread is amusing, and it looks like it's going to continue. Excellent.
Childeric III	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:09:00 - [58] I am sorry to say this; we (Merotech) really hoped that this IPO would launch. But you clearly need some help on a personal level in the art of leadership and communication. (Do not take this the wrong way, it is meant as constructive criticism.) Perhaps you should start of recruiting a communication officer, or contact a corporation that specializes in this thought of thing i.e. PR and business analysis etc.
B'wana Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:21:00 - [59] Originally by: PublicRelations Kwint Hello. lol ^^^sig zone indicator^^^ PR troll of Treelox
Ttocs Rox	Posted - 2008.09.15 20:36:00 - [60] Haters and basement creepers aside, this is business. I do have a low tolerance for crap which is what you want in a CEO. You want your ISK to grow or do you want to talk about your feelings? I am sorry if I appear to conflate the good posters and players with the bad. Take a look at what Ive said. If this interests you let me know. I will be putting together a packet and sending it out via evemail. I will talk with each interested party individually about how they would like to collaborate. We will form a specific plan for each of you, I will answer any and all questions you have. The IPO will not launch for at least a month. I would like to have everything well lined out and rolls set before any money exchanges hands. And when I say collaborate I mean collaborate. If you wanna be a silent partner and let your ISK grow while you out of town or whatever thats cool too. Peace.

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