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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 20:42:00 -
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 Originally by: evemail rec'd from; Ttocs Draw
2008.09.15 20:41
added. info forthcoming.
Woot, let the drama llama's continue
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 20:49:00 -
[62]
Originally by: evemail rec'd from Ttocs Draw
Subject:Removal
2008.09.15 20:48
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Drama llama's excuted
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.15 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT!
{hostile stuff}
I'm going to assume this was to me as there is no rational reason why this would've been directed at PP. My grandmother has been dead for 20 something years, um ... got laid earlier this morning (we woke up, could not go back to sleep, and viola!), and well I've more history here than you'll fabricate. (I don't know why you don't realize that a urinating match is not in your best interest, let alone winning?) Besides, grandma simply would not let me raise children in the basement. (Waaaaah!) Originally by: Ttocs Rox
ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully.
If you think this is impressive, you should try doing some research. Only 4,381 of my posts have been captured by Eve Search. Simply because the database doesn't go back beyond a certain point. Of course I'm slightly bitter that dilettante's like HippoKing and Dark Shakiri get called uber forum ho's when I know for a fact that not only have I been as prolific as them but I've got (to my wife's delight) stamina as well. Of course if you thought I was flaming or being a bully you'd simply use the report link. I do not fear moderation. Not because I don't err and go over the line but because I simply embrace it for what it is worth. Originally by: Ttocs Rox
pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined.
Now this could not have been directed to me. I don't think anyone here would even contemplate that it was directed towards me either. Perhaps you should say names when you are making comments to people instead of leaving it unlabeled. Improper documentation leads to confusion. Of course being in health care who cares who is scheduled for amputation or which leg it is? Just as long as you get to say whatever however... accuracy isn't important.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:08:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
If this interests you let me know. I will be putting together a packet and sending it out via evemail. I will talk with each interested party individually about how they would like to collaborate. We will form a specific plan for each of you, I will answer any and all questions you have.
Scam tactic #3 - Isolate and control information. Eliminate transparency.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Childeric III
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:16:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Childeric III on 15/09/2008 21:19:52
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
If this interests you let me know. I will be putting together a packet and sending it out via evemail. I will talk with each interested party individually about how they would like to collaborate. We will form a specific plan for each of you, I will answer any and all questions you have.
Scam tactic #3 - Isolate and control information. Eliminate transparency.
Thought the same thing, didnÆt bother commenting on it though....
I would not recommend this IPO purely based on the CEO, heÆs personality actually reminds a bit of another recent IPO presentation!
EDIT: THIS ONE
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:18:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Xabier
Edited by: Xabier on 15/09/2008 18:45:04
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Dude your killin me. So much crap. YOU NEED TO GET LAID. GET OUT OF YOUR GRANDMA'S BASEMENT!
This IPO is about fun and ISK. I'm looking for collaborators. Let talk about how to make it work. Ive had fun exchanging posts with you but the proportion of crap that you spew to useful commentary is very high. You want specifics? CRAP YOU SAY / USEFUL POINTS YOU MAKE = 10.6
Where is your evidence that I am trying to scam anyone? I have detailed several mechanisms that would provide for investor security but you don't comment on those, just more subjective baloney and personal attacks.
You might provide an actual IDEA or SUGGEST a way to increase security if you dont like my ideas... Naaa flame away.
ps. Ive noticed you do this all over the forum. You are the sad forum bully.
pps. Your application for investment and membership is declined.
I think you might have better luck on the RP forums ;)
Oh yea? Which are the RP forums?
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:26:00 -
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I'm not kidding when I say Ive enjoyed exchanging posts with you Char. I wasnt sure I'd even get a single reply!
Hers another way at looking at this. If after reading this entire thread you agree with Char's "position" what ever it might be, this IPO and Corp is NOT for you. You can now stop reading this thread. Char can go back to having hot sex with his dead grandma.
If after reading this entire thread this sounds interesting to you. Let me know and we can talk in more detail. Perhaps on TS or Mumble.
Thank you all for helping make this a successful roll out. 
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.15 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Shar can go back to having hot sex with his dead grandma.
Sadly, I'm not in health care so I'll stick with living and the living. And no, I won't give you grandma's address when you run out of cadavers to help you through those lonely nights. To paraphrase: "I guess you'll be speaking to your hand." Don't forget to kiss it when your done. Only courteous after all.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Ttocs Draw
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:17:00 -
[69]
Oh and here's a pic of me hanging out at the crib.
at the crib
plus another 5B approx in resources, bpos/bpcs, ships and equipment.
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Childeric III
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:17:00 -
[70]
What happened to the post after mine?
DidnÆt think you could delete posts only edit!
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:20:00 -
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Yes what happened to my post. If the Moderators are going to get involved could you please stop all the flaming.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:28:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Yes what happened to my post. If the Moderators are going to get involved could you please stop all the flaming.
If the mods are deleting your post, I think you should take that as a clue as to who(you) is doing the flaming.
:)
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jna
Caldari
Black Ash Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Haters and basement creepers aside, this is business. I do have a low tolerance for crap which is what you want in a CEO. You want your ISK to grow or do you want to talk about your feelings?
Wow. Can we play "Spot the person who has never been a CEO" game?
Or have I won already?
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:36:00 -
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Its the same 4 or 5 guys just flaming the hell out of this post. They have had their say. This is my thread, my IPO. If it is the case that forum Moderators work with the Trolls to let them take over threads then this forum is useless and I wont be wasting my time here any longer. I AM sorry to say. EVE rox! It should have a good forum to match it.
Peace.
IPO still stands. EVEmail me anytime.
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Ji Sama
Caldari
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:37:00 -
[75]
WTF why is my IPO thread mentioned here?
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play" |
CornerStoner
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Your mad cuz I havent put in the time, lurking in this forum, listening to your pearls of wisdom? Your mad cuz you think my business model might work?
You actually think someone is mad? LOL
(I admit that it bothers me when someone doesn't know the diff between your and you're (there, their and they're bothers me too))
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
I rather play alone then put up with a bunch of crap, I don't need your ISK.
Yet here you are asking for our ISK. 
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
I do have a low tolerance for crap which is what you want in a CEO.
Actually "crap" goes with any supervisory/leadership position. You should expect it. A large part of leadership is dealing with TONS of crap and still being effective without losing your cool.
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
The IPO will not launch for at least a month. I would like to have everything well lined out and rolls set before any money exchanges hands.
Seriously. Take the next month and put together a real IPO statement based on the template and lose the attitude. Do these two things and you have a good chance of making it work here.
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Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:47:00 -
[77]
Originally by: CornerStoner
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
The IPO will not launch for at least a month. I would like to have everything well lined out and rolls set before any money exchanges hands.
Seriously. Take the next month and put together a real IPO statement based on the template and lose the attitude. Do these two things and you have a good chance of making it work here.
Not unless he uses a "clean" alt, I think his "performance" in this thread, has burned him permantly. IMO
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Chomin H'ak
The Trivenerate
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:49:00 -
[78]
Edited by: Chomin H''ak on 15/09/2008 23:01:27
lol... wow.
Dude, you've really gone about this the wrong way. Just a little advice, when they're nailing you with hard questions... it means they're (i.e. they are, they WERE) close to buying in if you can answer those questions to the best of your ability WITHOUT being defensive.
Note: Important things emboldened and capitalized
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Originally by: shar tegral
the first thing tested upon any unknown that comes here looking for funding is their ability to maintain composure in the face of criticism.
Yeah... that.
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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ElweSingollo
The Higher Standard
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Yes what happened to my post. If the Moderators are going to get involved could you please stop all the flaming.
hmm three words come to mind mate "Pot/Kettle/Black" if you don't want mods getting involved don't start slinging excrement around maybe?
CCP and Eve Online... It's not a bug, it's a feature
In Before I Get M***** Again
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:55:00 -
[80]
ah this really is all about the Trolls. hes bustin my chops on grammar and usage, lol. you complain about my format? still have heard very little in the way of actual usable criticism and discussion on the merits of the business model.
i have provided screen shots of some of my business. i have provided a mechanism to safeguard from thief. i promise to grow ur money.
im sorry you dont like my format. i thought we might have some free form discussion. Troll's are big into rules it seems.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.15 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
I wont be wasting my time here any longer.
Even more sadly, I doubt we can count on you to keep your word. But I'm of two frames of mind here: Firstly, my granma would tell you, "Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you." Myself, Please let it hit you, repeatedly. Might increase your education if the impacts are closest to your brain. Secondly, I've received up to 90 day bans in my time. (Though the length was shortened upon review) I am far from a moderator favorite and they've gone round and round with me over various issues. However, in equal measure, you know it. You did it. You may not have liked what some have said but you are the one who typed the words that got deleted. Cry troll and flamer all you want, it is your lack of demeanor and composure that created the results you have received. In closing, the first thing tested upon any unknown that comes here looking for funding is their ability to maintain composure in the face of criticism. It is an imperfect test as far as litmus tests go however in Eve you could have investors from corps and alliances you can't stand. It is quite common actually. If you can not maintain a certain level of abstraction, keep your eye on the ball not your balls, then you will not be trusted to keep in game politics from effecting your ipo. It is likeliest, from our overall experience, that in that circumstance you'll rip off an in game enemy and consider it fair game. And this is just one of the considerations that comes with the composure litmus test. As we can see, not even 48 hours and you are running away crying "rusher ***", "haxor", "no life loser", "IMBALANCE". Feel free to check your evemail box regularly. However, in case you don't know it, if you receive one a noise sounds. Just thought you should know in case you ever do receive an eve mail. PS: You know you could simply ask the mods to lock your thread and they'll do it for you. It's been dead long ago, you are just now realizing it.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:01:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i have provided screen shots of some of my business.
Which can be easily photoshopped. Without full API acccess, no one will really fully trust those screen shots.
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i have provided a mechanism to safeguard from thief.
Does that safeguard protect against theft if your the thief?
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i promise to grow ur money.
promise...which requires us to trust you....
So far all we really know about you is that your an emo-raged idiot who hasnt bothered to research his market before making an offering.
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:11:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Its the same 4 or 5 guys just flaming the hell out of this post. They have had their say. This is my thread, my IPO. If it is the case that forum Moderators work with the Trolls to let them take over threads then this forum is useless and I wont be wasting my time here any longer. I AM sorry to say. EVE rox! It should have a good forum to match it.
Peace.
IPO still stands. EVEmail me anytime.
Oh and so you all know and should care. WE just all experienced sponsorship. What I posted was funny, i thought, and really was too the point -- that its cool if your not interested i would like to talk to anyone who is. Just need a couple guys. Maybe no body is interested, no problem also. Also Shar revealed some very interesting personal facts about himself but now you all well never know due to censorship. 
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:37:00 -
[84]
Cleaned.
Please stay on-topic. Critiquing posting styles does not lead to constructive threads.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Oh and so you all know and should care. WE just all experienced censorship.
There you go. I'd call you newb but that would insult the newbs. Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Also Shar revealed some very interesting personal facts about himself but now you all well never know due to censorship.
Indeed, oh thank heaven for my friends amongst the moderators. Now all I need is to bring 10 thousands thousands of billions veldspar to Chribba and then perhaps my little revelations will be removed from the interwebz. Either that or you really don't know much. For the record, everything you've said or I've said is cached there. The points and issue surrounding your offer and the observed deficiencies in your offer and manners all saved for everyone to read. BTW Mitnal: Hard to tell what is actually on topic as according to the op this is ipo, recruiting, wanted to buy, and politics thread. So, sorry mate. Perhaps the op needs to restart or something.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Treelox
Amarr
Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2008.09.15 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i have provided screen shots of some of my business.
Which can be easily photoshopped. Without full API acccess, no one will really fully trust those screen shots.
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i have provided a mechanism to safeguard from thief.
Does that safeguard protect against theft if your the thief?
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
i promise to grow ur money.
promise...which requires us to trust you....
So far all we really know about you is that your overly emotional, lack the ability to accept any form of critism and havent bothered to research your market(us) before making an offering. All traits that I strive to avoid and recomend others to avoid when looking for an investment opportunity.
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Proton Power
Amarr
Power Corrupts Tech
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Posted - 2008.09.16 00:11:00 -
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Whats sad is I thought about trying to back you if you could answer my few questions and open a Rays Sexy Wallet or Eve Commander Type wallet so I could view what you have done and see that you have the skills you say.
Screen Shots to me mean nothing at all other than your good at photo shop, bravo zulu!!!
Your telling me you sign into this game, don't use any chat channels, don't talk to anyone but make billions of isk. You say you lose billions in ships, you do this all on your own talking to nobody again. Sombody would know you, meaning give us some references. IF its as it look and nobody knows you (contrustivly your screwed, you wont' get backed).
SOme other constructive help. Here in MD you need just 1 Person that is known to back you. Even that 1 person that backs you could probably get you through all the other drama that the others bring, but you my friend have not 1 backer, and those that have tried or might you have told off, called Fat SOB's, and constant other insults which tells me this is not even serious to you and or your just having fun with the post and had no intentions on this working in the first place.
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 16/09/2008 01:09:48
Originally by: Proton Power
Whats sad is I thought about trying to back you if you could answer my few questions and open a Rays Sexy Wallet or Eve Commander Type wallet so I could view what you have done and see that you have the skills you say.
Screen Shots to me mean nothing at all other than your good at photo shop, bravo zulu!!!
Your telling me you sign into this game, don't use any chat channels, don't talk to anyone but make billions of isk. You say you lose billions in ships, you do this all on your own talking to nobody again. Sombody would know you, meaning give us some references. IF its as it look and nobody knows you (contrustivly your screwed, you wont' get backed).
Some other constructive help. Here in MD you need just 1 Person that is known to back you. Even that 1 person that backs you could probably get you through all the other drama that the others bring, but you my friend have not 1 backer, and those that have tried or might you have told off, called Fat SOB's, and constant other insults which tells me this is not even serious to you and or your just having fun with the post and had no intentions on this working in the first place.
hey man wut gives? i said i was going to put more information and that this might take months. and to be honest, it has been all on my own, almost exactly as you say. oh i get it, you almost had me there, you guys are all industrialist too -- this is just an extension of the in game trade wars. ok protons out. hes competitor he was never going to be in anyways.
i may have made a mistake of showing off too much. my business model is too flexible though, you cant beat me. i can liquidate and turn on a dime.
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Ttocs Rox
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 16/09/2008 01:21:38
ok they censored the complaint about censorship and the same guys persist with the personal attacks with still no mention of business.
putting on my CEO hat now, this venture has an increasing projected work to profit ratio and should reconsider the usefulness of these forums.
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2008.09.16 01:31:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
ah this really is all about the Trolls. hes bustin my chops on grammar and usage, lol. you complain about my format? still have heard very little in the way of actual usable criticism and discussion on the merits of the business model.
i have provided screen shots of some of my business. i have provided a mechanism to safeguard from thief. i promise to grow ur money.
im sorry you dont like my format. i thought we might have some free form discussion. Troll's are big into rules it seems.
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 16/09/2008 01:09:48
Originally by: Proton Power
Whats sad is I thought about trying to back you if you could answer my few questions and open a Rays Sexy Wallet or Eve Commander Type wallet so I could view what you have done and see that you have the skills you say.
Screen Shots to me mean nothing at all other than your good at photo shop, bravo zulu!!!
Your telling me you sign into this game, don't use any chat channels, don't talk to anyone but make billions of isk. You say you lose billions in ships, you do this all on your own talking to nobody again. Sombody would know you, meaning give us some references. IF its as it look and nobody knows you (contrustivly your screwed, you wont' get backed).
Some other constructive help. Here in MD you need just 1 Person that is known to back you. Even that 1 person that backs you could probably get you through all the other drama that the others bring, but you my friend have not 1 backer, and those that have tried or might you have told off, called Fat SOB's, and constant other insults which tells me this is not even serious to you and or your just having fun with the post and had no intentions on this working in the first place.
hey man wut gives? i said i was going to put more information and that this might take months. and to be honest, it has been all on my own, almost exactly as you say. oh i get it, you almost had me there, you guys are all industrialist too -- this is just an extension of the in game trade wars. ok protons out. hes competitor he was never going to be in anyways.
i may have made a mistake of showing off too much. my business model is too flexible though, you cant beat me. i can liquidate and turn on a dime.
Originally by: Ttocs Rox
Edited by: Ttocs Rox on 16/09/2008 01:21:38
ok they censored the complaint about censorship and the same guys persist with the personal attacks with still no mention of business.
putting on my CEO hat now, this venture has an increasing projected work to profit ratio and should reconsider the usefulness of these forums.
IÆm going to quote the OP here, you know just in case he ever asks us for money again, then I can just link to this post and the problemÆs solved.
PS WeÆre not all industrialists and you should have reconsidered the sagacity, style and quite frankly content of your posts well before ôreconsider[ing] the usefulness of these forums.ö
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