Don't do it bro. You will only hurt the game we love. CCP has done nothing in this instance to warrant you trying to damage their rep. w/ Sony.

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Don't do it bro. You will only hurt the game we love. CCP has done nothing in this instance to warrant you trying to damage their rep. w/ Sony.

This has blown over already.

professor alphane doing more illiterate bleating

lol

As much as I disagreed with what occurred, once I'd stated my position on this I left it there for the situation to be dealt with. This is simply petty and vindictive, lashing out because you have an axe to grind and undermines any legitimate concerns that may have been put forward.

Alex could have been a lot more diplomatic in his approach on the matter that's caused this uproar, this is just childish and self serving.

This. OP is a massive douchebag for even considering it.

It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.

It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.

It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.

Nope not lynch mob mentality

Lynch mob mentality is saying lets go harasses this guy until he kills himself for real. "OH i was just joking, even though hes dead I didnt really meant it. ""I was jut going along with eveyone else officer" would have been the next tag line and CCP closing its doors due to criminal investigations.

Nope not lynch mob mentality

Lynch mob mentality is saying lets go harasses this guy until he kills himself for real. "OH i was just joking, even though hes dead I didnt really meant it. ""I was jut going along with eveyone else officer" would have been the next tag line and CCP closing its doors due to criminal investigations.

Hey, what is The Mittani's real name? What is The Wis's real name?

Who is getting literally harassed? Thought so.

-Liang

It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

Exactly, it's Fox, they'll do anything for ratings. A low level MMO from a country that 95% of their viewer base couldn't find on a map isn't exactly going to set people's soul alight, nor will the traumatic tale of an adult almost getting bullied but not really.

I think you're being very generous if you think 5% of Fox' viewer base could find Iceland on a map.

Mittens' exact words:

"Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is"

I highlighted three words.

At the very worst you could say he was releasing information that would facilitate in-game harassment, which means he was giving someone else the means to violate the TOS, but in doing so violates no law himself. But here's the thing: he never actually says "go and harass the guy."

I know facts are inconvenient to you buttercup (and your anti mittens rhetoric before the elections was all over the place, BTW) but you can't simply put words into someone's mouth and expect him to be punished on what YOU keep saying he said, despite it being a falsehood.

So yes, making something up, spreading it around and trying to force action against it based on lies is a pretty good modern definition of a lynch mob / witch hunt.

Mittens' exact words:

"Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is"

I highlighted three words.

At the very worst you could say he was releasing information that would facilitate in-game harassment, which means he was giving someone else the means to violate the TOS, but in doing so violates no law himself. But here's the thing: he never actually says "go and harass the guy."

I know facts are inconvenient to you buttercup (and your anti mittens rhetoric before the elections was all over the place, BTW) but you can't simply put words into someone's mouth and expect him to be punished on what YOU keep saying he said, despite it being a falsehood.

So yes, making something up, spreading it around and trying to force action against it based on lies is a pretty good modern definition of a lynch mob / witch hunt.

[quote=Khanh'rhh]Problem is he crossed over the boundary of whats acceptable in our online reality and into our real lives

Based on whose interpretation, of what law?

I will remind you that there are many, many controversial political pundits, politicians, journalists and comedians who have said a lot worse than this. You may want to note: none are in jail. This would be because it is not illegal to offend someones taste of decency.

If Mittens had stood there and said:

- I want this guy dead, make it happen
- Here is his in game name, find him and make him die
- I am not joking, he should actually die

Or anything of the sort, I would NOT be defending the man.

I am defending him because words matter. I am defending him because context matters. I am defending him because the allegations being made against him are wholly inaccurate, are lies, or are intentionally worded in a manner which leaves the wrong impression DESPITE his actual comments being publicly view-able by all.

You're getting hung up on the semantics when the spirit of it was pretty clear - the entire panel was about the delicious tears they were enjoying at the expense of others - schadenfreude.

In that context he meant to harass someone until they killed themselves in real life

He was inciting people to basically murder another person through internet harassment. Just that is enough. That was the context.

You're very right, the spirit was clear. Clear to the goons listening, who promptly did nothing. Clear to the players listening, who promptly did nothing. That's why he didn't get harassed over this, and why this was a complete non-issue until a few days later when someone smelled a metagaming opportunity.

You may want to note: none are in jail. ...I am defending him.

It is utterly, utterly despicable and morally reprehensible to the very core to be deliberately trying to leverage this situation to your own gain.

You worthless, faceless and completely bankrupt human beings.

Dozens upon dozens of alts have been made to post hate at Mittens. He has been subjected to a constant tirade of hate, lies, false information and grandiose gesturing of the most disgusting nature. All of this, incidentally, against the real person, Alex.

And why? Because he made a flippant, tasteless comment saying people should contact an *in game* character.

If any of you are actually looking for the definition of cyber-bullying, look at your own actions.

Attempting to leverage CCPs financial situation and damage the future of a company because someone is BETTER AT A ******* GAME THAN YOU shows how completely imbalanced some of you really are.

Lynch mob mentality.

Jesus ******* christ.

Well first of you are wrong plan and simple plenty of people have been jailed for inciting hate crimes, including inciting others to cause harm. Plenty of Political figures have also lost their jobs and faced criminal proceeding over similar gaffes.

The loud and manic manner is which he proclaimed "Find HIM" is a clear direction to cause harm. Lets be clear no one has taken office as the presentation itself mocking this person, the offense is of the declaration to cause this person harm. Which is quite illegal in many many countries including the US and Iceland.

I suggest you actually do a bit of research on that score. The context you also need to focus on a bit is the fact this isn't joe average or some shock jock who doesn't claim to represent anyone other then themselves. This is the CSM Chairmen who stands up and says I keep CCP accountable and I represent the entire player base.

but really we can cut all that out, you say you are defending him and that is your right, but have you stopped to consider that mittani himself has clearly come out and said it's not defensible? Maybe he just understands the higher virtues in play then his would be defenders.