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Ebon Rue
The Incursion Career University
9
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:47:00 -
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Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow.
...this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
Proof that this is a fact and not your subjective opinion? Oh? You can't prove that? Then STFU and stop pretending you think or even speak for the rest of us. |

Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
3
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:50:00 -
[482] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:I just hate when people who actually have the power to make game-changing decisions are complete dumbarses. Oh that's completely to be expected. But D3 is clearly like god's gift to eve and knows everything we need. Oh yes, clearly. Well I can assure you one thing, he will not be the new Chairman. It'll be Xenuria or .. Riverini right? Or the miner
It could very well be any of them, but Darius has demonstrated his incompetence and lack of maturity, and I full-heartedly believe the CSM as well as CCP will take note of that when selecting a replacement for the Chairman position. |

JC Anderson
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
218
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:51:00 -
[483] - Quote
Skilfer Azizora wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skilfer Azizora wrote:I just hate when people who actually have the power to make game-changing decisions are complete dumbarses. Oh that's completely to be expected. But D3 is clearly like god's gift to eve and knows everything we need. Oh yes, clearly. Well I can assure you one thing, he will not be the new Chairman. It'll be Xenuria or .. Riverini right? Or the miner It could very well be any of them, but Darius has demonstrated his incompetence and lack of maturity, and I full-heartedly believe the CSM as well as CCP will take note of that when selecting a replacement for the Chairman position.
Not so sure that any of them want to be chair. ;) |

Razgriz Shaishi
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:55:00 -
[484] - Quote
Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
Most immature comment Ive ever seen anywhere on these forums. Nice job taking fullest advantage of another person's political mistake like the leech you seem to be.
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HezzyUK
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.03.28 23:59:00 -
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"10,058" - The Mittani ft. Vile Rat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNM8uDapgU
So what am I not supposed to have an opinion Should I keep quiet just because I'm the Mittani Call me a ***** cuz I speak what's on my mind Guess it's easier for you to swallow if I sat and smiled
When the Mittani fires back Suddenly big talker don't know how to act So he does what any little Darius will do Making up a few false rumors or two
That for sure is not a man to me Slanderin' names for popularity It's sad you only get your fame through controversy But now it's time for me to come and give you more to say
This is for my goons all around the world Who've come across a man that don't respect your worth Thinking all gooners should be seen, not heard So what do we do goons? Shout out loud! Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground So lift your hands high and wave them proud Take a deep breath and say it loud Never can, never will, can't hold us down
Nobody can hold us down Nobody can hold us down Nobody can hold us down Never can, never will
So what am I not supposed to say what I'm saying Are you offended with the message I'm bringing Call me whatever cuz your words don't mean a thing Guess you ain't a bit of man enough to handle what I sing
If you look back in history It's a common double standard of society The guy gets all the glory the more he can score While the goon can do the same and yet you call him a griefer
I don't understand why it's okay The guy can get away with it & the goonl gets named All my goonies come together and make a change Start a new beginning for us everybody sing
This is for my goons all around the world Who've come across a man who don't respect your worth Thinking all gooners should be seen, not heard What do we do goons? Shout out loud!
Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud Take a deep breath and say it loud Never can, never will, can't hold us down
Vile Rat: Here's something I just can't understand If the guy can break NDA then he's the man He can either give us some grief, **** us off If a goon does the same, then he's a griefer But the table's about to turn I'll bet my fame on it Cats take my ideas and put their name on it It's aiight though, you can't hold me down I got to keep on movin' To all my goons with a pubbie who be giving us flak Do it right back to him and let that be that You need to let him know that his game is whack And Vile Rat and The Mittani got your back
But you're just a little boy Think you're so cute, so coy You must talk so big To make up for smaller things So you're just a little boy All you'll do is annoy You must talk so big To make up for smaller things
This is for my goons... This is for my goons all around the world Who've come across a pubbie who don't respect your worth Thinking The Mittani should be seen, not heard So what do we do goons? Shout out loud! Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud Take a deep breath and say it loud Never can, never will, can't hold us down
This is for my goons all around the world Who've come across a pubbie who don't respect your worth Thinking The Mittani should be seen, not heard So what do we do goons? Shout out loud! Letting them know we're gonna stand our ground Lift your hands high and wave 'em proud Take a deep breath and say it loud Never can, never will, can't hold us down Spread the word, LET JITA BURN |

Princess Bride
Corripe Cervisiam Trade Consortium
325
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:01:00 -
[486] - Quote
http://i.imgur.com/SbKxBl.jpg http://eveprincessbride.wordpress.com/ |

Liaria Cullen
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:03:00 -
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As someone Who openly felt that alex's behaviour was highly out of order, and also feel that although his stepping down is actually unneeded and should never have been pushed this far, it should certainly help. I'm not a religeous man however i believe theres a quote in the bible which fits here nicely "let he that is without sin cast the first stone". You're all condeming "The Mittani" for an action that "alex" (i'm not going to try spell your second name, appologies) Did at fanfest while drunk, and while surounded by friends and in a situation where everyone was happy, and giddy. I'm not saying this makes it right, but it certainly help's explain. you've all did stupid ****, anyone who says they havent did something they highly regret whilst drunk is a liar, he's openly admitted what he's done was wrong and is taking steps on his own to try fix the situation. i don't feel a ingame ban is fair for an action that was done out of game while at fanfest, it's like jailing someone in real life for a crime in eve. i honestly done think it matters anyway, the ceo of goonswarm is unlikely to have only one account, and all this is only really going to appease to the masses of idiots that have been annoyed by the mittani in the past.
In any case, i look forward to an unshackled goonswarm. Cant wait to see how the carebears and idiots pay for this. Good luck in future Alex and as a player and a person, i hope this doesn't affect you too much, if anything truely can peirce that heart of coal of yours. |

SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
96
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:04:00 -
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Princess Bride wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Well done NPC alts,
You just cleared Mittens of any sense of pandering to any role he needs to play and he is now free to leverage the full arsenal of goonswarm against you in any manner the TOS allows.
Yes, this means completely destroying Jita.
What does that CCP trailer say? "Your choices always come back around"
I'll just /popcorn and wait for you to cry and whine and beg on the same forums you gave birth to your worst enemy, reinvigorated with a hatred for all of you.
This will be fun~ In other words, he's mad now?
madness and freedom are often confused.
Darius III wrote:Pointless ****..
All that talk about yourself going to be mentioned in the thread and yet you were the first one to come in and post about it, you are failing at trollbait and quite clearly using this as a mix between gaining attention and a hate campaign.
I have to say honestly, a few years back i noticed you in passing and thought you were not too bad, watched you post on forums and seen you on a few fleets and didnt know why all the hate, but since i have actually been paying attention to the going-on in the eve community i understand it more clearly than ever, you are a vile attention starved person who will jump at the chance to get in on everything regardless who you **** over on your way. Mittani ****** up, that much is clear, and considering the amount of media coverage about it, he has handled it professionally and courteously, unlike you, who seem to think that you should be loved for trying to spearhead a crucifixion of one of the best voices we have had for the playerbase as a whole.
i would not trust you with one vote, let alone the voice of Eve players.
and you may be thinking oh yeah, just another flamepost from some CFC guy but i can assure you, this comes not from anyone in a corp or alliance, not from anyone who is biased towards anybody, but from myself, an Eve player who has paid open minded attention to the workings of eve politics and noticed you for the cancer that you are.
Eve Online is not your mother, and even if it was, you will never be her favourite son.
Dont mind me, -ájust touching your stuff. |

PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
260
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:05:00 -
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The behavior exhibited is not becoming of an eve player, let alone someone he supposedly represents.
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.
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Ceptia Cyna
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:08:00 -
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JC Anderson wrote:[...] Though I'm still a bit confused as to what exactly happened... CSM & The Mittani announce that he will be handing off the chair to another CSM. (but staying on the csm right?)
Then the CCP post that Mittani has been removed from the CSM entirely and received a 30 day ban?
Mittani has posted that he hands the CSM chair to another person cause he fears that the planned actions of griefing and harrasment by goonswarm would be negativ publicity for CCP and that he is better at planing on how to destroy Jita entirely than leading the CSM. Still keeping the seat in the CSM of course.
Only 2 hours later CCP bans him for 30 Days and thus kicks him out of CSM while still allows him to candidate for the next CSM , of course only if the candidature is reviewed positively. *hint*hint*
It seems real life has struck hard and without remorse. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
322
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:10:00 -
[491] - Quote
Liaria Cullen wrote: i honestly done think it matters anyway, the ceo of goonswarm is unlikely to have only one account, and all this is only really going to appease to the masses of idiots that have been annoyed by the mittani in the past. oh well, the out-of-game comm channels are still here, but doubtless we are paralyzed and about to cascade.
PL, Raiden. and NC., you are clear to headshot VFK. Take "all the supercaps and titans" (quote from NC. forums) and come on in. I'm sure it will be an easy and total victory for the cause of ~elite pvp~
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Dr Decibel
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:11:00 -
[492] - Quote
PsychoBitch wrote:The behavior exhibited is not becoming of an eve player, let alone someone he supposedly represents.
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned.
Lessons in morality from Pyschobitch of Playboy Enterprises everyone. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
322
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:11:00 -
[493] - Quote
Dr Decibel wrote:PsychoBitch wrote:The behavior exhibited is not becoming of an eve player, let alone someone he supposedly represents.
CCP should have him unceremoniously removed immediately, and banned. Lessons in morality from Pyschobitch of Playboy Enterprises everyone. Exotic dancing is considered an art form, even though not everyone might agree. Exposing the flesh in public places may be perfectly acceptable within the Federation, but in the Amarr Empire it's considered a grave sin and a sign of serious deviancy Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1101
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:13:00 -
[494] - Quote
The Mittani wrote: there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that.
You know as well as anyone else that what matters when it comes to public statements inciting harassment against another, is that you made the public statement inciting harassment. The actual mental state of the target doesn't matter, just as in a defamation case it doesn't matter if what you utter are factual statements, it only matters that there is an impact in the perception of the target by the population you spoke to. As a result of your statement, there were more gankings in the system your target occupies: there was a measurable impact in the attitude of the population you spoke to.
The Mittani wrote:With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats.
I disagree: the problem was more with you running your mouth off without considering what you were saying, especially given that there were cameras in the room broadcasting your words live to the thousands of people who weren't in the room with you, whose appreciation for your humour could not be gauged.
There is absolutely no incompatibility between being The Mittani and being CSM Chairman. I found the calls for your resignation during the Ice Interdiction to be laughable. You could, of course, stand for CSM Chairman with a sock puppet alt. This should help distance The Mittani from CSM Chairman even though both roles are played by the same human.
Ice Interdiction: awesome stuff! Inciting harassment: FAIL!
You just need to learn when to shut your trap.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
1101
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:17:00 -
[495] - Quote
Princess Bride wrote:http://i.imgur.com/SbKxBl.jpg
:)
The EVE Online equivalent of "loose lips sink ships". |

Gericho Sane
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:19:00 -
[496] - Quote
I look forward to watching Jita asplode, albeit from very, very far away.
PS Darius you sound like a real ****. |

Dasquirrel715
Universalis Imperium Tactical Narcotics Team
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:20:00 -
[497] - Quote
Darius III wrote:This is a cynical half hearted gesture that rings very hollow. You have brought disgrace on the CSM, CCP and the Eve community in general. While I suppose it is "better than nothing" it does not undo the damage you have caused us all. Stepping down entirely is the only way to remove the stain of your poor judgement.
I ask you to look beyond your power mad aspirations and do the right thing for us all: Step down from the CSM so that we can begin the healing process and get some closure. Mainstream gaming media will adore you for it and the players will rejoice. Merely abdicating the Chair is a token gesture that will be viewed with cynicism not from just your detractors, but by everyone who is familiar with who your really are. I am outraged that you think this does anything to address the severity of what you have done to us all.
Instead of this token gesture, if in fact this what you think will atone for what you have done-do something meaningful and quit the the Council completely so that the CSM may once again enjoy the respect of the player base. I urge you to take into account the bigger picture and for once-do the right thing. Your full resignation is the one and only this that will set this right.
Soon in this thread you will see many goonies posting like mad, suggesting there was an NDA breach in CSM6, which of course CCP denied, dont let them turn this into something about ME this is about how Mittani's apology was not sincere, about how he cares nothing for the overall health of Eve, and just shows how empty his apology is.
In B4 1,000 goon alts post support and make laughable accusations about something NDA something that was shown to be untrue and denied by Dev post.
PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
There are times when politicking in EVE reminds me of real world politics. Oftentimes I see this as an interesting and even beneficial thing to a game like this. However, Darius, your post is a sore reminder of the fact that most politics is ends up effectively as a **** size contest. While I support Mitten's decision to step down from his position as chairman, your effort to pull him out of the council entirely is a sadly obvious ploy given your obvious bias from the events of the last year or so. I suggest we leave Mittens where he is.
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Skilfer Azizora
Nova Corps Marines Group
3
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:20:00 -
[498] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:The Mittani wrote: there are still some who doubt the sincerity of my apology to the player concerned, who - unlike those attempting to make hay from my mistake - is the person that matters here. I said that I would resign; to demonstrate the sincerity of my words and my apology, I will do just that. You know as well as anyone else that what matters when it comes to public statements inciting harassment against another, is that you made the public statement inciting harassment. The actual mental state of the target doesn't matter, just as in a defamation case it doesn't matter if what you utter are factual statements, it only matters that there is an impact in the perception of the target by the population you spoke to. As a result of your statement, there were more gankings in the system your target occupies: there was a measurable impact in the attitude of the population you spoke to. The Mittani wrote:With the increasingly high profile of the CSM in the wake of the Incarna Emergency Summit and the amazing turnout we had for the CSM7 elections, I have come to the conclusion that my two roles in EVE - that of the Chairman of the CSM as Alexander Gianturco, and the leader of Goonswarm as "The Mittani" are increasingly incompatible. It is, fundamentally, a problem of hats. I disagree: the problem was more with you running your mouth off without considering what you were saying, especially given that there were cameras in the room broadcasting your words live to the thousands of people who weren't in the room with you, whose appreciation for your humour could not be gauged. There is absolutely no incompatibility between being The Mittani and being CSM Chairman. I found the calls for your resignation during the Ice Interdiction to be laughable. You could, of course, stand for CSM Chairman with a sock puppet alt. This should help distance The Mittani from CSM Chairman even though both roles are played by the same human. Ice Interdiction: awesome stuff! Inciting harassment: FAIL! You just need to learn when to shut your trap.
He was having fun and got drunk, then proceeded to do something stupid. It happens ALL THE TIME. He was just unlucky in therms of time and place of that stupid act. |

Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:23:00 -
[499] - Quote
Mittens's dog for CSM7 chairman. |

Keep Crying
Demon-War-Lords BLACK-MARK
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:24:00 -
[500] - Quote
Vaarkk wrote:I move to remove Darius III from CSM7. He has proven time and time again his great mental instability and his ineffective leadership, and he will do nothing to benefit the greater EVE community.
All in favor say "aye"
Aye |

Alexandra Alt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:24:00 -
[501] - Quote
Tyrone Cashmoney wrote:Mittens's dog for CSM7 chairman.
I don't think Vile Rat can be chairman now ;) |

Svennig
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
76
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:32:00 -
[502] - Quote
So, in summary.
Mittens gets up on stage, berates a player and makes fun of his depression, lots of nasty words. Not smart, dude. Some of the mails you posted were generally hilarious. But that one in particular, picking on those particular things, showed an unpleasant side that, as mittens, is almost expected in this game but, as head of the CSM, is not and is not acceptable. I'm disappointed that it happened, but it's a momentary lack of judgement, and I accept the apology that was given publicly and privately.
As much as I dislike mitten's comments, that's nothing to the revulsion that I feel toward those making "political" hay over this issue. The amount of recreational outrage and feigned moral panic from Darius and others is appalling. You're using this scenario to further your own interests, just like mittens used that guy to get a laugh. You don't give a **** about that guy, or the abuse he felt and suffered as a result of the presentation. It's just convenient. You do it to get a rise - you've said as much in this thread while delighting in the "tears" it has produced.
You're pathetic, and deserve as much censure as mittens for your opportunist abuse of this situation.
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Jonatan Reed
Momentary Lapse of Reason. STR8NGE BREW
42
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:33:00 -
[503] - Quote
Keep Crying wrote:Vaarkk wrote:I move to remove Darius III from CSM7. He has proven time and time again his great mental instability and his ineffective leadership, and he will do nothing to benefit the greater EVE community.
All in favor say "aye" Aye
Aye |

Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
319
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:35:00 -
[504] - Quote
This is going to come as a shock to you, but it's not all about you.
Looking forward to what kind of "hell in jita" goons deliver.
GL Alex.
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
324
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:36:00 -
[505] - Quote
Svennig wrote:recreational outrage and feigned moral panic recreational outrage?
They rage for fun?
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |

Liaria Cullen
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
1
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:36:00 -
[506] - Quote
Jonatan Reed wrote:Keep Crying wrote:Vaarkk wrote:I move to remove Darius III from CSM7. He has proven time and time again his great mental instability and his ineffective leadership, and he will do nothing to benefit the greater EVE community.
All in favor say "aye" Aye Aye
aye |

Ceptia Cyna
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:39:00 -
[507] - Quote
Mara Rinn wrote:Princess Bride wrote:http://i.imgur.com/SbKxBl.jpg :) The EVE Online equivalent of "loose lips sink ships".
Like this?
http://h11.abload.de/img/looselipsmittanixck2v.png |

Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
271
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:40:00 -
[508] - Quote
Liaria Cullen wrote:Jonatan Reed wrote:Keep Crying wrote:Vaarkk wrote:I move to remove Darius III from CSM7. He has proven time and time again his great mental instability and his ineffective leadership, and he will do nothing to benefit the greater EVE community.
All in favor say "aye" Aye Aye aye
Aye
(this might deserve it's own threadnaught)
"Because apparently Eve-O thinks it's perfectly acceptable behaviour to threaten to commit suicide over a video game in order to make people feel bad about killing or scamming you, but if you laugh at that person for being a ret@rded drama queen, then you are literally Hit|er." - Jafit ( Dreddit-á - Test Alliance Please Ignore ) |

Atapine
Serpentine Holding Consortium
0
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:40:00 -
[509] - Quote
Bravo Sir!
Clog the exit ramp of Jita IV station with the charred corpses and wrecks of the wretched.
Make the Concord blob so large it blots out the sun!
BURN JITA |

Time Funnel
Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore
110
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Posted - 2012.03.29 00:49:00 -
[510] - Quote
Darius III wrote: PS This is but a minor defeat for Mittani, but the goonies are going to howl all night. Like music to my ears.
You being on the CSM would be the maximum amount of pain I could inflict on CCP and the player base that is why I will be pushing hard in the CFC to get you, PsychoBitch (I didn't make that up), Xenuria and a few other comedy candidates elected to the CSM8. So please run again so that we can ruin people's game by putting you in a position of power.
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