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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.01 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Adreenalina Villak Edited by: Adreenalina Villak on 01/10/2008 14:21:07
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 30/09/2008 03:50:08 And wtf is this general moaning about global warming? Even if your image of it is accurate you'll be long dead before it starts to make a notable difference.
I don't know where you live, or if you ever go outdoors at all?
But where I am from we used to have snow until last week of April or first week of May. With a lukewarm summer lasting 2+ months or so. And snowing starting in late Oct again.
We have no winters at all nowadays, and havn't had a winter for more than 10 years! No snow in the wintertime, temperature hardly getting below freezing.
If you are unable to see one such obvious thing, you cannot be helped.
Regional temperature records are not an accurate reflection of global warming... Isnt that what the global warming nut job scientists always say? Oh right, except if it is in the region of the polar caps or greenland! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.10.01 15:47:00 -
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You people do realize that the ENTIRE SPAN of civilization is occurring between two ice ages, correct?
And, please don't pull the "It was warm when I was a kid" your life span is smaller than the **** on fly in geologic time, which is the only time span we can measure global temperature trends in. _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Adreenalina Villak
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.10.01 16:46:00 -
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Quote: Shanpurak wrote: Regional temperature records are not an accurate reflection of global warming... Isnt that what the global warming nut job scientists always say? Oh right, except if it is in the region of the polar caps or greenland!
I used to live in the subarctic but now I am a notch to the south of it. But yes I can see whats happening with my own eyes. The region around the arctic circle are in fact where these changes appeared first so its not only myself but everyone else who lives here who reacted to this. You cant even walk out on the 'duoddar' (=tundraland) any more, the permafrost have melted and turned it into wet swamplands.
So I dont need any "nutjob" whatever, but you are obviously disrespectful and like to belittle the part of the world where I am from as something insignificant. 
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Of Montreal
Gallente The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Adreenalina Villak Edited by: Adreenalina Villak on 01/10/2008 14:21:07
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 30/09/2008 03:50:08 And wtf is this general moaning about global warming? Even if your image of it is accurate you'll be long dead before it starts to make a notable difference.
I don't know where you live, or if you ever go outdoors at all?
But where I am from we used to have snow until last week of April or first week of May. With a lukewarm summer lasting 2+ months or so. And snowing starting in late Oct again.
We have no winters at all nowadays, and havn't had a winter for more than 10 years! No snow in the wintertime, temperature hardly getting below freezing.
If you are unable to see one such obvious thing, you cannot be helped.
Making general observations of climate in your region says nothing and proves nothing about global warming. Some places are having milder winters some worse winters and some staying the same. Climate changes. So thats a very weak agrument.
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Of Montreal
Gallente The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adreenalina Villak
Quote: Shanpurak wrote: Regional temperature records are not an accurate reflection of global warming... Isnt that what the global warming nut job scientists always say? Oh right, except if it is in the region of the polar caps or greenland!
I used to live in the subarctic but now I am a notch to the south of it. But yes I can see whats happening with my own eyes. The region around the arctic circle are in fact where these changes appeared first so its not only myself but everyone else who lives here who reacted to this. You cant even walk out on the 'duoddar' (=tundraland) any more, the permafrost have melted and turned it into wet swamplands.
So I dont need any "nutjob" whatever, but you are obviously disrespectful and like to belittle the part of the world where I am from as something insignificant. 
Vikings use to farm greenland, what caused the warming back then? Their deisal powered longboats?
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Of Montreal
Gallente The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Of Montreal on 01/10/2008 17:10:09
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Adreenalina Villak
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 30/09/2008 03:50:08 And wtf is this general moaning about global warming? Even if your image of it is accurate you'll be long dead before it starts to make a notable difference.
I don't know where you live, or if you ever go outdoors at all?
We have no winters at all nowadays, and havn't had a winter for more than 10 years! No snow in the wintertime, temperature hardly getting below freezing.
If you are unable to see one such obvious thing, you cannot be helped.
well, I was supposed to go to the dessert this time around while in Algeria for 3 months, but didn't cause it was all read 42 degrees instead of the old average of 30-35 and the desserts average of 40 went up to 48. 52 highest, its does go below freezing at night, but its impossible to ride a bike in that temperature. I gotta say that this has happened before, explains why the bloody sea that was there dried up.
And even if it happens again, species will not go extinct, especially polar bears and kangaroos and monkeys.
Why is thaT?
We have bloody zoos in all part of the world and different climates, and they managed to make some of them adapt to even eat baby food. This advert was over exaggerated, and put your self in the shoes of the million of global warming scientist. would you like your founding to be terminated? or free donations, which is what this add really asks for.
The best way to combat over population is treating people like in china, 1 kid only. and frankly it ll probably work, and i don't see how a not born baby is a deprived from life baby.
ethics VS humans can be the same as the one with animals, we re not that much better than them. Earth was better off before we cam along.
The thing about polar bears is , there are 20 {edit}:known populations and out of those 20 2 are declining in numbers the rest are either stable or growing.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Adreenalina Villak
Quote: Shanpurak wrote: Regional temperature records are not an accurate reflection of global warming... Isnt that what the global warming nut job scientists always say? Oh right, except if it is in the region of the polar caps or greenland!
I used to live in the subarctic but now I am a notch to the south of it. But yes I can see whats happening with my own eyes. The region around the arctic circle are in fact where these changes appeared first so its not only myself but everyone else who lives here who reacted to this. You cant even walk out on the 'duoddar' (=tundraland) any more, the permafrost have melted and turned it into wet swamplands.
So I dont need any "nutjob" whatever, but you are obviously disrespectful and like to belittle the part of the world where I am from as something insignificant. 
Ahh good, where I live it has been colder than a witches ***** for the last 3 years often 20 degrees below normal. No disrespect to you, just like cutting peer reviewed scientific ******s with their own Occams Razor logic! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Illwill Bill
Minmatar Scandinavian Carebears AB
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Of Montreal The past 25 years the southern hemisphere has shown no rise in temperature.
I would like to see data on this; I did some searches, but haven't found anything that supports your claim.
Overall, the global average temperature is rising; the antarctic temperatures have generally followed that trend, especially if you look a the winter temperatures. As a side effect of this, the snowfall has increased greatly, resulting in growing glaciers on Antarctica, and a few other places aswell.
But, as we both agree on: All this is irrelevant. There are some large changes about to happen to the global climate, and humanity should start preparing for that instead of *****ing and fighting about the cause.
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nartela
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:29:00 -
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all i can say is good luck belgium, when the water starts to rise your low ground country is gonna be gone.
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Pwett
Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:31:00 -
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You know, the funny thing with Global warming, is that if it really happens on a massive scale, odds are Northern Europe would quickly Glaciate :) _______________ Pwett CEO, Founder, & Executor <Q> QUANT Hegemony
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nartela
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Posted - 2008.10.01 17:33:00 -
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hehe europe will be a small concentration of islands like the Caribbean but colder
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Adreenalina Villak
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.10.01 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak Ahh good, where I live it has been colder than a witches ***** for the last 3 years often 20 degrees below normal. No disrespect to you, just like cutting peer reviewed scientific ******s with their own Occams Razor logic!
Hey, since I havn't been able to use my snowmobile for quite some while, must have been 3 years since I was able to took it for a short spin - which burned off my sliders since there were only ice and no true snow- I come over to your place. :)
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Sharupak
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.10.01 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Adreenalina Villak
Originally by: Sharupak Ahh good, where I live it has been colder than a witches ***** for the last 3 years often 20 degrees below normal. No disrespect to you, just like cutting peer reviewed scientific ******s with their own Occams Razor logic!
Hey, since I havn't been able to use my snowmobile for quite some while, must have been 3 years since I was able to took it for a short spin - which burned off my sliders since there were only ice and no true snow- I come over to your place. :)
Actually, a better spot would be where I grew up in Northern Cali! Big Sur and generally anywhere up the Rockies. Your engine will need to be rebuilt before you have done every slope and trail. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |

Xue XinMao
West Wind Waylanders
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Posted - 2008.10.01 22:25:00 -
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Just a question: whats the bad thing about polar bears going extinct, not that would with preservations programs of wild life that has been in existence for decades.
has any one of you ever seen a polar bear?
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Reven Cordelle
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.10.02 08:15:00 -
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"Stop global warming"
Ooo shit my bad. *Turns off the global warmer*
We were only doing it for the lulz!
Shit like this ****es me off, Yeah the planet is having a bit of a geothermal shift at the moment but you can't just ****ing turn OFF everything that contributes to global warming. You think just stopping that much atmospheric influence wouldn't shock the planet somewhat and cause some serious screwups with the weather?
You know what doesn't help? Cutting down all the trees and mass deforestation, yeah they dont magically solve the problem but they sure as hell help a bit.
Cars? How about cows? Would you give up a beef steak to drive your car? How about they make some cheap, practical electric cars rather than making the most efficient and useful ones cost over $40,000?
Obviously its a problem, but a catch-all phrase such as "Stop Global Warming" is obscenely ignorant. This video is nothing but a rendered attempt at making people feel worse than they already do in a world of pending economic failure and fuel crisis.
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Motaka
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Posted - 2008.10.02 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Motaka on 02/10/2008 18:14:34 Edited by: Motaka on 02/10/2008 18:05:55
Originally by: Karma Edited by: Karma on 26/09/2008 19:17:57
Originally by: mercyonman global warming is not caused by us. and really there isn't much of it. the northern glaciers yes are melting. BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly. many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion. and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen. plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much. the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
let's see, I'm assuming you're just trolling, but some nut might actually believe you so I'll set some stuff straight, for their benefit.
1. I believe you're wrong, but whatever. 2. yes there is. 3. yes they are. 4. not quite. 5. if a part of the glacier breaks off due to warmth (much like an icecube cracks if you put it in a glass of water, that part will float off and become a boating hazard, I'll grant you that. 6. even if that were true, we're also rapidly turning trees straight into stubs. 7. normally yes. but we've increased the amount of it in the atmosphere by roughly 35% since the beginning of the industrial age. and the balance of nature is fairly capricious. 8. ... idiot.
For all the the people that belive in the crap that your being told _______________________________________________ Motaka ~ DirtyHarry ~ Original F-E Material |

Of Montreal
Gallente The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.10.02 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill
Originally by: Of Montreal The past 25 years the southern hemisphere has shown no rise in temperature.
I would like to see data on this; I did some searches, but haven't found anything that supports your claim.
Overall, the global average temperature is rising; the antarctic temperatures have generally followed that trend, especially if you look a the winter temperatures. As a side effect of this, the snowfall has increased greatly, resulting in growing glaciers on Antarctica, and a few other places aswell.
But, as we both agree on: All this is irrelevant. There are some large changes about to happen to the global climate, and humanity should start preparing for that instead of *****ing and fighting about the cause.
It was some data I read from Roy Spencer of NASA and John Christy. I'll try and remember the name of the data/paper they published. It basically talked about the surface temps rising in the NH and the SH not really moving one way or another in any meaningful way. They also talk about the differences between what we are seeing as far as the differences we are having between our surface temps (rising) and tropospheric temps. (cooling). The theory of global warming would mean tropospheric temps. should rise faster than surface temps. which is not the case right now.
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