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Cosy Ceaon
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.26 10:43:00 -
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interesting stop about global warming 
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Rana Ash
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:02:00 -
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Sad i agree..
It's not the earth that needs saving, it will fix it self.
It will just take a million years or so. Species die out and new ones will replace them, i think we need to think in tearms of how we can save humanity from destroying itself.
We evolved into the habitat we have, but we are changing it so fast. That whom knows what will happen, perhaps we will go the way of the dodo.
Or a new sort of humanoid will evolv, one more used to the climate and the earth of the future..
lyret dedreen
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:10:00 -
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Thats the most depressing thing I have ever seen
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mercyonman
Caldari
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:16:00 -
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global warming is not caused by us.
and really there isn't much of it.
the northern glaciers yes are melting.
BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly.
many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion.
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much.
the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.26 11:23:00 -
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 Originally by: mercyonman
global warming is not caused by us.
and really there isn't much of it.
the northern glaciers yes are melting.
BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly.
many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion.
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much.
the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
I almost believed you until the ozone layer remark. 
You have no clue of science, or do you just think God put it there?
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
global warming is not caused by us.
and really there isn't much of it.
the northern glaciers yes are melting.
BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly.
many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion.
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much.
the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
Wow, you win the prize for 'least intelligent' post of the day .. well done you ... contact me in-game for your reward.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:27:00 -
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I had to stop on the second cut to the chimp grabbing the vine.
Very powerful imagery, too powerful, and given the fact that a close friend died in the same way, too disturbing.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2008.09.26 12:42:00 -
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well that was the oppisite of happy.
also trees don't magicaly balance us out, the problem is we make more of it than the trees can use. the more we cut down forests the less oxygen the forests make.
simple.
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Cosy Ceaon
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.09.26 14:31:00 -
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polar bears dying in the water after swimming without pause long time because there is no ice sometimes
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:28:00 -
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It's a shame that we're entering a cooling cycle 
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Pwett
CEO, Founder, & Executor
<Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Vabjekf
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Posted - 2008.09.26 15:50:00 -
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If you cut down a tree, you have actually just cut it in half.
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: mercyonman
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
Non-sense. The Carbon we emit from burning fossil fuels and gasoline is contaminated. It's kind of like saying that if trees started producing Oxygen + Mustard gas we'd be fine because we only need the oxygen.
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Gonada
Priory Of The Lemon
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Posted - 2008.09.26 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Gonada on 26/09/2008 16:32:35
I was going to say something well educated, but from the looks of it, you can put everyone in this forum together and still not have a IQ past 20.
global warming has some human contributions, but if you look on the grand scale of the earth history( billions of years), you will see that the earth goees through cycles, and we are entering a new one right now.
Please, jump into traffic
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.09.26 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: annoing
Originally by: mercyonman
global warming is not caused by us.
and really there isn't much of it.
the northern glaciers yes are melting.
BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly.
many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion.
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much.
the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
Wow, you win the prize for 'least intelligent' post of the day .. well done you ... contact me in-game for your reward.
Contact him. He will write a diatribe to you, then say he's putting you on block.
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Karma
Eve University
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Posted - 2008.09.26 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Karma on 26/09/2008 19:17:57
Originally by: mercyonman
global warming is not caused by us.
and really there isn't much of it.
the northern glaciers yes are melting.
BUT the southern glaciers are growing rapidly.
many cargo ships had to reroute due to glacier expansion.
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
plus carbon dioxide doesn't effect our planet that much.
the whole in the ozone layer is basically to let some of the atmosphere to escape so we don't heat up TOO much.
let's see, I'm assuming you're just trolling, but some nut might actually believe you so I'll set some stuff straight, for their benefit.
1. I believe you're wrong, but whatever.
2. yes there is.
3. yes they are.
4. not quite.
5. if a part of the glacier breaks off due to warmth (much like an icecube cracks if you put it in a glass of water, that part will float off and become a boating hazard, I'll grant you that.
6. even if that were true, we're also rapidly turning trees straight into stubs.
7. normally yes. but we've increased the amount of it in the atmosphere by roughly 35% since the beginning of the industrial age. and the balance of nature is fairly capricious.
8. ... idiot.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Raymond Sterns
Originally by: mercyonman
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
Non-sense. The Carbon we emit from burning fossil fuels and gasoline is contaminated. It's kind of like saying that if trees started producing Oxygen + Mustard gas we'd be fine because we only need the oxygen.
right but all that carbon got taken from the atmosphere by plant life, which then decomposed and turned into fossil fuels. which we now burn and turn back to carbon.
and something I was watching stated that fossil fuel emissions were about 3% of the generated atmospheric carbon. volcanoes/animal life generate far more massive amounts.
anyone that is selling "green" stuff, or carbon credits is just trying to make a quick buck off of you.
see penn and teller bullshit, season 6, episode 6.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:39:00 -
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I haven't seen a more foundation-less thread in here since the rise of the Pyramid Cult.
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Pwett
CEO, Founder, & Executor
<Q> QUANT Hegemony
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:40:00 -
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is it bad that suicidal monkey made me laugh  
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The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.09.26 20:44:00 -
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The content of the OP:
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:05:00 -
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Meh, global warming is a nice alternative to the whole human race suffocating.
Better start terraforming Mars now.
Originally by: Amoxin
My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Hae t'Redd
Caldari
Isonami Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:40:00 -
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I love these threads. Watching the tree-hugging hippies and the 'Clear-cut and pave it' types go at it makes me laugh. I especially like the parts where people throw bogus facts around to prove their pet theories. Keep it up.
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
17th Minmatar Tactical Wing
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Posted - 2008.09.26 23:59:00 -
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AAAAAAND.
Science time.
Damage is done. Even if we stop all carbon, CO2, nuclear, etc pollution the damage is done to the planet.
If the polar bears can't take it they are going to die unless we can keep them going in a artificial habitat.
Most "enviromentalists" forget this fact and want to waste further money on "saving" these animals when in fact we should be working on helping 3rd world countries come into the industrial age without killing everything ELSE on the planet with pollution.
The damage is done, how much of it continues is up to us.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.09.27 01:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada
Edited by: Gonada on 26/09/2008 16:32:35
I was going to say something well educated, but from the looks of it, you can put everyone in this forum together and still not have a IQ past 20.
global warming has some human contributions, but if you look on the grand scale of the earth history( billions of years), you will see that the earth goees through cycles, and we are entering a new one right now.
with respect to the fact that the earth may be doing this naturally...
a) we're certainly not helping, and IIRC the human contribution to atmospheric CO2 is an order of magnitude greater than that done by the earth's cycles.
b) Who cares whose fault it is? Solidly putting the blame on something isn't going to make the outcome any less environmentally destructive.
c) What, exactly, is the harm in finding cleaner energy sources? If we're causing global warming, hey, we just saved the planet, whoo. If we're not, hey, we have way cleaner energy sources and a nicer planet to live on.
If we don't do anything?
Well, if we're causing the problem...
If we're not? Well, I don't know about you, but I'd rather clean up the planet anyway.
Also, that was very sad.
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Originally by: Arthur Frayn
How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:16:00 -
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Edited by: Raymond Sterns on 27/09/2008 02:16:55
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Raymond Sterns
Originally by: mercyonman
and all the carbon we emit the trees turn it straight into oxygen.
Non-sense. The Carbon we emit from burning fossil fuels and gasoline is contaminated. It's kind of like saying that if trees started producing Oxygen + Mustard gas we'd be fine because we only need the oxygen.
right but all that carbon got taken from the atmosphere by plant life, which then decomposed and turned into fossil fuels. which we now burn and turn back to carbon.
and something I was watching stated that fossil fuel emissions were about 3% of the generated atmospheric carbon. volcanoes/animal life generate far more massive amounts.
anyone that is selling "green" stuff, or carbon credits is just trying to make a quick buck off of you.
see penn and teller bullshit, season 6, episode 6.
It's not the same Carbon, period. The carbon the plants use is the one animals produce and we don't produce thick clouds of smoke every time we breath. It's like putting a fish inside a tank of dirty water and expecting it to live.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.09.27 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Raymond Sterns
It's not the same Carbon, period. The carbon the plants use is the one animals produce and we don't produce thick clouds of smoke every time we breath. It's like putting a fish inside a tank of dirty water and expecting it to live.
I've seen that happen actually. Those Chinese fighting fish are really adaptable it seems.
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Atama Cardel
HOMELESS.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 03:13:00 -
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According to some physicists, the earth should be in the middle of a massive ice age right now, due to the positioning in relation to the sun. So in a sense global warming saved our lives
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Of Montreal
Gallente
The Sunshine Club
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Posted - 2008.09.27 03:15:00 -
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Temperature drives carbon dioxide levels, world heats up carbon dioxide levels go up. Not the other way around.
Water vapor and solar activity are affecting our temperatures more than co2. For instance the spike in temperature in '98 happened during El Nino, when water vapor was being pumped into our atmosphere.
From the 1940's through the 1970's we went through a cooling period, during the seventies scientists were warning of global cooling. This was during a period of large industrial growth, which was less regulated then we are now.
Our surface temperatures are rising slightly, however where our climate actually occurs ( troposhpere ) temps. aren't changing. There is a lot more urban radiation now then there has ever been obviously.
Scientific methods to come to a convenient conclusions such as mixing direct measurements and proxy measurements make a lot of findings suspect.
Climate science is still in its infancy and there is a LOT we don't fully understand. Phrases such as "there is no debate" makes me believe global warmists are afraid of any debate and make any scientist who has information that clashes with theirs is a heretic. That tactic is used when the facts are really not on your side and is a spin tactic.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2008.09.27 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Raymond Sterns
It's not the same Carbon, period. The carbon the plants use is the one animals produce and we don't produce thick clouds of smoke every time we breath. It's like putting a fish inside a tank of dirty water and expecting it to live.
I've seen that happen actually. Those Chinese fighting fish are really adaptable it seems.
That's because Betas don't breathe water, they breathe air. Try putting a Beta next to a smokey fire and see what happens 
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annoing
Amarr
MisFunk Inc.
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.27 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ademaro Imre
Contact him. He will write a diatribe to you, then say he's putting you on block.
Ahhhhhhhhhhh i've missed you, you're my favourite idiot ... been a long time no see.
Hows the medication? Hows the rent-boy life treating you? Contact me in-game some time, I havent had fun like you for a long time 
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.09.27 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Raymond Sterns on 27/09/2008 19:22:48
Originally by: Mr Friendly
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Raymond Sterns
It's not the same Carbon, period. The carbon the plants use is the one animals produce and we don't produce thick clouds of smoke every time we breath. It's like putting a fish inside a tank of dirty water and expecting it to live.
I've seen that happen actually. Those Chinese fighting fish are really adaptable it seems.
That's because Betas don't breathe water, they breathe air. Try putting a Beta next to a smokey fire and see what happens
They use both, actually, but can resort to using it's lungs in case the water is contaminated or the pH is too low/high.
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