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Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:29:00 -
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I can't believe how colossally stupid the decision making has been at CCP.
Regardless of your side in this matter this dude has been brought to the for front of Eve's space drama. If you're pro goon you're probably not to fond of this guy. If you're a Mittani hater you're probably pretty fond of the dude.
Either way he's in the spot light, probably way more than he wants to be.
So. Long story short, you took a situation that involved a potentially unbalanced individual and decide the best thing to do was make a very public controversial decision that just brings more attention to an already troubled person. You painted a target on his back.
GOOD MOVE. Your continued lack of tact or good PR sense is amazing. This is probably worse than how poorly you handled the Aurum roll out. Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:30:00 -
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The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:31:00 -
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Well, it did net him 10b isk from The Mittani. So I guess it's not all bad for him. But yeah. Great job turning a molehill into a planet, CCP. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:32:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all.
I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

Zoloft Rx
Forged Prophets
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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CCP Witness Protection Program: +1 Free name change per character, per account. |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
140
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Yeah. Tbfh I don't get what ccp was trying to accomplish... Huge gathering of people,prospective business partners looking on and they live stream a Jaeger bombed shitfest. |

Heet Crusher
Drunk Chaos Unprovoked Aggression
8
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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Goonie leader did it all by himself. CCP just CYA action. "Deal with it" |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
48
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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It's simply a shame that CCP are obviously unable to take responsibility for this because of their Sony relationship.
I have no affiliation with TM the Goons or anyone but I see a stitch up when it is in front of me.
I've posted this before and I'll post it again.
If I invited you to a work site, let you get drunk then let you wander into the crowd with a nail gun - who would be at fault when someone lost an eye?
What the MT said was disgraceful. That CCP facilitated it and then has tried to wriggle out of the responsibility with Corporate "Suit" talk is a disgrace. |

Kehro Urgus
257
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:34:00 -
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All these threads are sure to help. You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |

Zoloft Rx
Forged Prophets
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:36:00 -
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Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright?
Maybe 1 day delay.. I mean, some people might not of been able to catch on to the relevance of those comments. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:37:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Yeah. Tbfh I don't get what ccp was trying to accomplish... Huge gathering of people,prospective business partners looking on and they live stream a Jaeger bombed shitfest.
That's the thing. They over reacted because they were afraid its going to make the public spot light and reflect badly on their company. Sony is looking on as the release of DUST creeps up (which is btw a really huge business deal as it is the first AAA free to play shooter on a console, ever).
If anything they've brought more attention to this whole issue and I wouldn't be surprised if now it actually DOES make the light of day on a news site that matters and not some crappy blog that get's zero hits. Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:38:00 -
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Heet Crusher wrote:Goonie leader did it all by himself. CCP just CYA action. "Deal with it"
You're not even reading are you... just sort of posting about... stuff? Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
49
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:38:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:All these threads are sure to help.  More entertaining than playing EVE. Problem?  |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
213
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:40:00 -
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Mr. Giantrurco might have been drunk during the presentation. But his actions were premeditated. This "I was drunk" bullshit is just that, bullshit.
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Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:41:00 -
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Zoloft Rx wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Maybe 1 day delay.. I mean, some people might not of been able to catch on to the relevance of those comments.
Alternatively we could have ambassadors on the CSM able to act like adult human beings perhaps?
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
145
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:42:00 -
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Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Yeah. Tbfh I don't get what ccp was trying to accomplish... Huge gathering of people,prospective business partners looking on and they live stream a Jaeger bombed shitfest. That's the thing. They over reacted because they were afraid its going to make the public spot light and reflect badly on their company. Sony is looking on as the release of DUST creeps up (which is btw a really huge business deal as it is the first AAA free to play shooter on a console, ever). If anything they've brought more attention to this whole issue and I wouldn't be surprised if now it actually DOES make the light of day on a news site that matters and not some crappy blog that get's zero hits. I would also like to add that members of the CSM knew that this was supposed to be big for the company as a whole. If they had spent less time playing RELEVANTSPACESHIPBAWSSES and more legit discussion of what's what with the game,we actually would have had a completely awesome fanfest. |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
706
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:42:00 -
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Wukulo wrote:I can't believe how colossally stupid the decision making has been at CCP.
Regardless of your side in this matter this dude has been brought to the for front of Eve's space drama. If you're pro goon you're probably not to fond of this guy. If you're a Mittani hater you're probably pretty fond of the dude.
Either way he's in the spot light, probably way more than he wants to be.
So. Long story short, you took a situation that involved a potentially unbalanced individual and decide the best thing to do was make a very public controversial decision that just brings more attention to an already troubled person. You painted a target on his back.
GOOD MOVE. Your continued lack of tact or good PR sense is amazing. This is probably worse than how poorly you handled the Aurum roll out.
Um no, the mittens put a target on the guys back. Those of you who are following mittens orders and harassing the guy are just as guilty now as mittens is. You guys really need to slow your ******* roll or you may find many of you with a ban yourselves and even mittens with a perma-ban. Is that what you want?
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Kehro Urgus
257
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:43:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Kehro Urgus wrote:All these threads are sure to help.  More entertaining than playing EVE. Problem?  I haven't undocked in days.  You know what you find in a sandbox? Sand and cat poo. |

Aiden Andraste
State War Academy Caldari State
163
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:43:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Zoloft Rx wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Maybe 1 day delay.. I mean, some people might not of been able to catch on to the relevance of those comments. Alternatively we could have ambassadors on the CSM able to act like adults perhaps? So adult human beings never make mistakes? Adults never make mistakes and sincerely apologize for them? Dont worry though, at this rate, the only thing that CSM will be representing is the political and marketing agenda of CCP. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:43:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Zoloft Rx wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Maybe 1 day delay.. I mean, some people might not of been able to catch on to the relevance of those comments. Alternatively we could have ambassadors on the CSM able to act like adults perhaps?
We already did.
He made a mistake. Owned up to, apologized, extend the olive branch to the dude he did wrong.
I think you've very conveniently confused "Being an adult" with "Being perfect" because you happen to dislike the Mittani. Being an adult means owning your mistakes, not never making any. Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

The Mittardi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:44:00 -
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I pre-gamed on wine coolers before I got on stage, sorry guys. I was a total hot mess up there Dear Goons: I will sell you this character for 50B ISK. EVE mail me if interested. |

Pahineh Amelana
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
55
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:48:00 -
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An Apology is an admission of guilt, it is not an omission of wrong doing.
or...
"electrolytes it's what plants crave" |

Judge Solace
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:49:00 -
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Aiden Andraste wrote:Judge Solace wrote:Zoloft Rx wrote:Wukulo wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:The only stupid thing ccp did was live stream a bunch of drunks. That's all. I'll back you there. Maybe a 10 min delay next year for some quick edits would be bright? Maybe 1 day delay.. I mean, some people might not of been able to catch on to the relevance of those comments. Alternatively we could have ambassadors on the CSM able to act like adults perhaps? So adult human beings never make mistakes? Adults never make mistakes and sincerely apologize for them? Dont worry though, at this rate, the only thing that CSM will be representing is the political and marketing agenda of CCP.
Yes, because flying off the handle like a complete baby with the decision by CCP after the due diligance he afforded them is a responsible way to act and of course validates his apology? The very idea that he now wants to enact revenge shows how sorry he truely is.
"I didn't get my way, waah", is for 5 year old politics. Not "owning" the decision at all. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:50:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote: Yes, because flying off the handle like a complete baby with the decision by CCP after the due diligance he afforded them is a responsible way to act and of course validates his apology? The very idea that he now wants to enact revenge shows how sorry he truely is.
Cite your source. Revenge? What are you talking about? Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
213
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:54:00 -
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Wukulo wrote:He made a mistake. Owned up to, apologized, extended the olive branch to the dude he did wrong. And then threw a tantrum and went on a tirade asking his legion of idiots to use the game as a tool to grief. You forgot that part because of **** he brought upon himself.
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
50
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:55:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Kehro Urgus wrote:All these threads are sure to help.  More entertaining than playing EVE. Problem?  I haven't undocked in days.  I only just logged on now for the first time in days!
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Davor
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:55:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Wukulo wrote:He made a mistake. Owned up to, apologized, extended the olive branch to the dude he did wrong. And then threw a tantrum and went on a tirade asking his legion of idiots to use the game as a tool to grief because of **** he brought upon himself. You forgot that part.
It was already planned, genius. We're actually delaying it until mittens is free. |

Wukulo
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
17
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:57:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Wukulo wrote:He made a mistake. Owned up to, apologized, extended the olive branch to the dude he did wrong. And then threw a tantrum and went on a tirade asking his legion of idiots to use the game as a tool to grief because of **** he brought upon himself. You forgot that part.
No. I didn't forget anything you made it up out of context because you want this to be all about how Mitanni screwed up.
I was there for that broadcast. I actually have context. None of that stuff is in reaction to his banning and has been in the works for weeks. Well before fan fest. Cite your source or STFU. Posted on main because I'm not a coward like the rest of you. |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
50
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:57:00 -
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Judge Solace wrote:Yes, because flying off the handle like a complete baby with the decision by CCP after the due diligance he afforded them is a responsible way to act and of course validates his apology? The very idea that he now wants to enact revenge shows how sorry he truely is.
"I didn't get my way, waah", is for 5 year old politics. Not "owning" the decision at all. A fair view.
The spin is that it is a "test" of the CCP tolerance for the sandbox.
Personally I'm always more worried about someone calm and calculating than someone in a rage.
TM doesn't sound like someone in a rage.
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Heet Crusher
Drunk Chaos Unprovoked Aggression
12
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Posted - 2012.03.29 07:59:00 -
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[quote=The Mittardi]I pre-gamed on wine coolers before I got on stage, sorry guys. I was a total hot mess up there[/quot
+10 nice job :) lol |
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