A fair view.

The spin is that it is a "test" of the CCP tolerance for the sandbox.

Personally I'm always more worried about someone calm and calculating than someone in a rage.

TM doesn't sound like someone in a rage.

No. I didn't forget anything you made it up out of context because you want this to be all about how Mitanni screwed up.

I was there for that broadcast. I actually have context. None of that stuff is in reaction to his banning and has been in the works for weeks. Well before fan fest. Cite your source or STFU.

Yes. I made it up, apparently.

If you're going to defend him you are going to need a different excuse.

Yeah, you did. I just clicked on that link and searched for the word revenge. Not there. I can keep making your points look ridiculous if you want but if you can't form a well reasoned supportable point I wouldn't recommend you keep posting.

It's not a fair view actually. He's just going with what he heard and not what is actually happening. Everyone is throwing the word "Revenge" around as if they actually heard Mittani say it.

The Jita thing has been planned for weeks, well before the fanfest.

So... if revenge is some how in the works. I welcome some body showing me evidence of it. Otherwise you're just making it up to support your agenda.

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Now try reading it. Or keep crying.

Whatever.

Sorry, a better thing to say would be - an understandable interpretation given current events/forum posts.

Not one that I subscribe to as I listened to the SoTG address as was linked on the forum earlier.

I was not aware that this was planned before the FanFest, and to me it's not relevant when it was planned, the objective is clear as it as been stated by TM. To test that CCP is still "the old" CCP.

Will Wiz be a target? Sure. Mittani has shown us that there are people out there who are willing to prey on those that cannot defend themselves. However, with Mittani's apology, the pilot is now 10b richer so any hits he takes will be able to be cleaned up nicely until people lose interest.

Honestly, I won't blame CCP because this isn't their fault. I'm a guitarist and play gigs on the weekends with a steady band. Let me draw a few parallels:

1. I am invited by the venue to appear and perform a service.

2. The venue will supply me amenities - usually alcohol - for my service.

3. If I break the venue rules, set fire to the stage or otherwise perform the service I agreed to perform in an unsatisfactory or offensive manner, I won't get paid or asked back, but the blame is on me and not the venue for allowing me to perform.


This model can be applied to Fanfest. I've said it before in other threads, but the blame is completely on the panel for their actions. When you give a bunch of douchebags alcohol and a microphone, this is EXACTLY what happens. The EVE Uni rep was stellar. The rest are a prime example as to why the stereotype of "Gamers = Douchebags" is still valid.

Don't blame CCP for Mittani's action. Don't blame them for the open bar. Blame Mittani's premeditation and the goons around him that reinforced it. Band together. Eradicate Goonswarm.

Already did also like I said, i was actually there when he was speaking.

Still not sure what you think is there. Couldn't even find "Reciprocity" or "Reprisal" or "Vengeance"

Would you like to make something else up about what happened?

Nevermind. It's pointless.

Targeting the wis can now easily claimed as a criminal offence.
Even if I were an all-knowing hate machine hax0r we r legion hurr durr sa forum btard I'd still be recognising the stupidity of being stupid today.

The Mittani did this to himself and he is now dealing with it.

The so called 1058 need to understand that votes do not make you unaccountable. Learn from your leaders mistake. Don't warship him.

I can't believe how colossally stupid the decision making has been at CCP.

Regardless of your side in this matter this dude has been brought to the for front of Eve's space drama. If you're pro goon you're probably not to fond of this guy. If you're a Mittani hater you're probably pretty fond of the dude.

Either way he's in the spot light, probably way more than he wants to be.

So. Long story short, you took a situation that involved a potentially unbalanced individual and decide the best thing to do was make a very public controversial decision that just brings more attention to an already troubled person. You painted a target on his back.

GOOD MOVE. Your continued lack of tact or good PR sense is amazing. This is probably worse than how poorly you handled the Aurum roll out.

OK,

Not saying you are wrong, but this is just my view.

(I've posted this before BTW)

If I invited you to a work site, let you get drunk then let you wander into the crowd with a nail gun - who would be at fault when someone lost an eye?

What the MT said was disgraceful. That CCP facilitated it and then has tried to wriggle out of the responsibility with Corporate "Suit" talk is a disgrace.

I don't think you are wrong - as I said this is just my view.

What I would suggest though is that only CCP have the resources to fix this to appease all views and it's not being done. And what they are doing is being done in a VERY ham fisted way.

So the right thing to do would have been to hide it under the carpet and pretend it didnt happen so as not to hurt the feelings of ~internettoughguys~ who now feel obliged to hunt down the victim. lol

Fanfest is over. There is very little they can do now. They can't control what happens in-game for obvious reasons, and they already gave Mittani a 30 day vacation from EVE. They can go public with an apology but honestly I think that would make the situation worse. This is Mittani's problem, not CCP's, and I don't agree that they should help clean up Mittani's mess. Honestly I'd say ban him for a year. The Wiz should be offered a new account or character and a free skill boost to ensure he is removed from harm, but other than that, it's up to the community to demand a more grown-up group of representatives.

I never said anything about that. Hiding it under the carpet and handling things in private and with some tact are different things.

I doubt he is going to be a target. Our attention span is too short for that.

It was already planned, genius. We're actually delaying it until mittens is free.

Once it went public, besides being live streamed all over the interwebz, and worse into the gaming news sites it could only escalate from there. If it hit BBC, CNN, Fox, MSNBC and all the others then the **** would really have hit the fan. Therefore CCP was forced to deal with it in a public manner. ""Private" manner would have been taken as hiding what happened.

Wait? Are you saying you guys were already planning to grief the victim when Mittens apologized?

So adult human beings never make mistakes? Adults never make mistakes and sincerely apologize for them? Dont worry though, at this rate, the only thing that CSM will be representing is the political and marketing agenda of CCP.

Um no, the mittens put a target on the guys back.

Alternatively we could have ambassadors on the CSM able to act like adults perhaps?

And then you lot went and put a planet sized target on his back.