Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - he was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

He didn't threaten the wis, he simply encouraged some mild harassment (what some of you like to call cyber-bullying).

He didn't threaten the wis, he simply encouraged some mild harassment (what some of you like to call cyber-bullying).

He didn't threaten the wis, he simply encouraged some mild harassment (what some of you like to call cyber-bullying).

He didn't threaten the wis, he simply encouraged some mild harassment (what some of you like to call cyber-bullying).

People quoted my entire post, yet they still managed to take it out of context.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

The problem is that the internet is full of imbeciles. What you see as encouragement for mild harassment, lots will see as a demand that they immediately go and petrol bomb his house. You have to be really careful with what you say on the internet because people WILL take it out of context and things will go downhill quickly.

People quoted my entire post, yet they still managed to take it out of context.

HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY HERITAGE!

yeah but Ginger didn't save ccp in 2011 during the jita riots over the nex store or controls the largest blob of retards and uneducated pubbies in any game community.

Imagine if mittens was perma banned? mass CFC accounts unsubbing.

I would love goons to mass quit in protest of mittens being banned but ccp is a business at the end of the day. I'm sure he is still playing on his alts and collecting his tech money

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

LOL yeah sure... well, perhaps we should do just the same with him?

"Incidentally...

yeah but Ginger didn't save ccp in 2011 during the jita riots over the nex store or controls the largest blob of retards and uneducated pubbies in any game community.

Kirk: Spock...what is...your assessment?
Spock: *checking tricorder* It seems to be a large quadruped Captain, and by examing the surroundings *looks over open fields* which I belive to be a draft animal on this planet.
Kirk: That is...interesting...Spock....Bones...do you...concur.
Bones: *picardfacepalm* Damn it Jim its a f*cking dead horse, its not a philosophical debate that we need to poke over and over. For f*cks sake, will you please call Scotty and get us off this miserable f*cking planet so I can get drunk. God damn, the only way to get through the damn sh*t this species will continuously obsess over is to just be in a drunk stupor for the rest of my life and its not helping my liver.

One was a threat made that he will find the person in real life, which is a crime.

Another was mockery and goading people to harrass someone in game.

"Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [redacted], he has his own corp. Find him."

I guess you conveniently missed the part where mittens incited other players (in a live venue that CCP provided) to harass a player with the intent that the player kill himself in real life.



But keep on with the denials and spin to try to pass this off as no big deal. It makes it much easier to identify who is drinking the kool-aide.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Kirk: Spock...what is...your assessment?
Spock: *checking tricorder* It seems to be a large quadruped Captain, and by examing the surroundings *looks over open fields* which I belive to be a draft animal on this planet.
Kirk: That is...interesting...Spock....Bones...do you...concur.
Bones: *picardfacepalm* Damn it Jim its a f*cking dead horse, its not a philosophical debate that we need to poke over and over. For f*cks sake, will you please call Scotty and get us off this miserable f*cking planet so I can get drunk. God damn, the only way to get through the damn sh*t this species will continuously obsess over is to just be in a drunk stupor for the rest of my life and its not helping my liver.

Goon alt detected

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Its wasnt even that. It was a drunken joke made by a guy wearing a wizard hat.

You might take into account CCP is complicit in Mitt's drunken tirade. According to the media laws in Iceland, not only are they complicit, they are legally liable for having allowed Mitt access to their media to perform his tirade. What makes it difficult for CCP is it can be well documented that they knew what sort of person Mitt is, and they found him amusing. It can even be said they encouraged him to do what he did. CCP can't afford to pretend EVE isn't real. In the eyes of their local constabulatory, EVE is very real. So are the behinds in the sling. Think about it. They ban Mitt for life. Mitt sues. Boom

This is why you exercise CONTROL. Once competant authority peels back enough layers, they'll come to realize CCP has only exercised token control and in very arbitrary ways. This adds up to IRRESPONSIBILITY, something the authorities frown upon.

Suffice to say CCP is now engaged in damage control 'cause they let their little attack puppy off the leash.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

the only thing that should ever perma ban you is RMT or cheating... words are words no matter how you put it.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Harassment in game (regardless of someone's mental state) always comes with the option of walking away.

A death threat doesn't.

Humour or humor (see spelling differences) is the tendency of particular cognitive experiences to provoke laughter and provide amusement. The term derives from the humoral medicine of the ancient Greeks, which taught that the balance of fluids in the human body, known as humors (Latin: humor, "body fluid"), control human health and emotion.

Sub intelligent meme quoter detected, owns special hardcore gaming keyboard set up for such an occasion.

But no, its over. To bad everyone just has to obsess over it like a Mass Effect fan whining about the ending of number three.

It was an encouragement to harass someone, and this encouragement was made by a sociopath -- while wearing a wizard hat -- and just so happens to have a lot of influence. You may not see the difference, but most everyone else does.

the only thing that should ever perma ban you is RMT or cheating... words are words no matter how you put it.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

I really thought a ban was not warranted until I heard his eve radio interview last night.

His behaviour is still self-interested, conceited and wrong.

He couldn't even bring himself to agree that CCP's 30 day ban of him was deserved.

In his speech to the goons he said "I've been f***** but we'll go on".

I can't see at all how it is that people cannot see past his obviously fake manner and fake apology.

I've changed my mind from 2 days ago, now I think he should be gone for good.

Just because he apologized and stepped down as CSM chair doesn't mean that he has to agree about the ban. And that doesn't mean that the apology wasn't sincere. This is especially considering that CCP decided on the ban all on their own without letting him know when he made his apology.

Since when are we aloud to discuss moderation on the forums?

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

Ginger Magician to Miz Cenuij and 20 more in local (2007): "curl up and die" "ill find you in real life" (was immediately perma-banned from EVE because there was a GM in local removing corp roles from Miz Cenuij - Ginger was never seen again)

The Mittani to the EVE community (2012): "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [name]. It's [spells the name]. He has his own corp. Find him." (banned for 30 days only)

I think this comparision is worth an examination.

I really thought a ban was not warranted until I heard his eve radio interview last night.

His behaviour is still self-interested, conceited and wrong.

He couldn't even bring himself to agree that CCP's 30 day ban of him was deserved.

In his speech to the goons he said "I've been f***** but we'll go on".

I can't see at all how it is that people cannot see past his obviously fake manner and fake apology.

I've changed my mind from 2 days ago, now I think he should be gone for good.

Mittani was talking about killing him in-game. He didn't make any real life threats. Nobody can force anyone to kill themselves with imaginary internet spaceships. The other thing that's different is that Ginger Magician was serious and Mittani was clearly joking. He's an alliance leader. If he wanted the guy harassed by tons of people he doesn't need to beg random people at fanfest. He has his own army.

So he thinks he's been harshly done by when it comes to taking responsibility for his actions?

I see...

It always amazes me that people think that if they pay the restitute that THEY think is reasonable, then everything's ok. As soon as they have to pay more than that, it's a harsh punishment.

In 1875 in the state of South Australia it was legal to beat your wife with a stick narrower than your thumb.

It's okay if we do it quietly.

So je was talking about self destructing his pod when he said get him to kill himself?

I'm gathering that you people wouldn't be happy until the man is literally drawn and quartered.

Because nobody from the internet has ever made a terrible joke while wasted. Nope. No sir.

yes... if you talk someone into murdering someone youre totally innocent cause "words are just words"

I order you to send me all the money in your bank account! No? I guess words are just words then.

I order you to send me all the money in your bank account! No? I guess words are just words then.

All goons are scammers, so they would have.. uh wait.

Right, you post on crime and punishment when you get scammed by TEST.

so Charles Manson is innocent in your eyes I take it?

He never killed ppl, he talked his girls into doing it for him. But then "words are just words" so....