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Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:20:00 - [1] Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears. There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend. This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players. An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point. This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity. Back on Retainer. I am cheap but not easy.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:20:00 - [2] Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears. There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend. This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players. An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point. This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity.
ElrondMD The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:21:00 - [3] Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot.
ElrondMD The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:21:00 - [4] Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:25:00 - [5] Originally by: ElrondMD Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot. My post is too meta. The more they troll me, the more power I receive. Back on Retainer. I am cheap but not easy.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:25:00 - [6] Originally by: ElrondMD Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot. My post is too meta. The more they troll me, the more power I receive.
Angelonico Series of Tubes	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:40:00 - [7] Originally by: ElrondMD Your just going to get trolled by whichever entity in eve most recently benefited from a lag induced turkey shoot. Well put.
128th ABC123 Eve Liberation Force Liberty.	Posted - 2008.09.30 06:54:00 - [8] Signed. Devs & mods, print this out and take it to your next staff meeting.
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.09.30 07:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Re Mi stuff So you are saying that killing off an enemy alliance is bad and we should all be friends? Or you are speifically against killing people in lag? If you are talking about the former - I wonder how long would it take for someone to make a Hello-Kitty Online reference. If you are talking about the later - well, a) I doubt there is something a party, that benefits from lag in one particular instance, can do about it (stop shooting?) b) I would not trust in the e-honor and don't believe an opposing FC would hold fire if I have not loaded grid yet - so I need to shoot him before he loads to even up the score c) Eve is a game with no ethics, only laws (e.g. EULA) You create your own ethics - inside a corp, inside an ally.
Phyrron Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.09.30 07:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Re Mi Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears. There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend. This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players. An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point. This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity. Thats not too meta, u hit the point m8. CCP has no interest in end-game gameplay! I think they know exactly that they cant manage more than 300k pilots in one system without nodecrashs. And i think they know exactly that they cant manage this problem generally in the next 1,2 or 3 years, because the hole basic approach of EVEs soft- and hardware has no reserve to manage such numbers of pvp playing people.
Ikira Onimareu Life Extermination	Posted - 2008.09.30 07:54:00 - [11] Quote: Thats not too meta, u hit the point m8. CCP has no interest in end-game gameplay! I think they know exactly that they cant manage more than 300k pilots in one system without nodecrashs. And i think they know exactly that they cant manage this problem generally in the next 1,2 or 3 years, because the hole basic approach of EVEs soft- and hardware has no reserve to manage such numbers of pvp playing people. I want to know where all the money we pay CCP goes. I for one do not know why they are screwing with walking around in stations when we can't have a descent 50 on 50 man fight in a non-reinforced node. Time to get off the 486 dx/4 servers and maybe upgrade to a Pentium 200mhz server instead?? /sarcasm Just my 2 isk
Kirra Liu Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.30 08:18:00 - [12] Edited by: Kirra Liu on 30/09/2008 08:19:01 Originally by: Phyrron I think they know exactly that they cant manage more than 300k pilots in one system without nodecrashs. I think we all know and respect the fact that the server can't manage more than 300'000 pilots in one system. edit: just realised, yes I'm in a NPC corp, but after downtime I'll be back in a corp again, pls don't mod me
cptgone	Posted - 2008.09.30 08:20:00 - [13] cloning services shouldn't be targetable. a strong invader can disable them very fast, so that podded pilots find themselves trapped in station. this encourages defenders to move their medical clone away from the front.
Ikira Onimareu Life Extermination	Posted - 2008.09.30 08:26:00 - [14] Originally by: cptgone cloning services shouldn't be targetable. a strong invader can disable them very fast, so that podded pilots find themselves trapped in station. this encourages defenders to move their medical clone away from the front. Too many ppl with ADD post on here.
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:37:00 - [15] Last nights fight in m-o was what CCP keep advertising, it was PvP at it's finest with massive entities prepared to throw everything they have at each other. This could have been THE biggest fight ever in the history of eve, it's what that superb marketing video is trying to sell. Except for the bit about looking at a black screen for 4 hours.... I know this happened to both sides for the most part and it was a complete lottery who got in first, but sides apart look at what we buy every month. Let's use analogies for the dim witted who are already typing the usual verbal tripe about NC whines bla bla... this is about the game as a whole and not because we were on the spanked side. If you go out and buy a Ferrari only to find it has a fiat 126 engine would you complain? Buy a fireblade 1000 only to find it's been restricted to 30mph, pick up a sunseeker speedboat only to find no engine, just a pair of oars... would you be happy with any of those scenarios?? Somehow I think not. We are sold and still pay for a game that is fundamentally flawed, don't get me wrong it's a great game and even 5 years down the line i still look forward to logging in, so no, you can't have my stuff. But play styles, decisions and tactics should not be based on server performance, they should be based on how your virtual character would react in the 'story land and fantasy' yes it was an atrocity, not the first, definitley not the last and most importantly and most dangerously has set a precedent for the 'gain ground any way, any how, at any cost' brigade.
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Heptameron yes it was an atrocity, not the first, definitley not the last and most importantly and most dangerously has set a precedent for the 'gain ground any way, any how, at any cost' brigade. you reap what you sow.
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Heptameron yes it was an atrocity, not the first, definitley not the last and most importantly and most dangerously has set a precedent for the 'gain ground any way, any how, at any cost' brigade. you reap what you sow. and just how did we sow this one pray tell??
Rob Z0mbie	Posted - 2008.09.30 09:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Ikira Onimareu Originally by: cptgone snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Additionally, using an Alt Corp to post is also not permitted-Navigator([email protected]) Too many ppl with ADD post on here. Why so Racsit=P I got ADHD, and i agree with OP =P
DirtySnipe Warped Mining	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:01:00 - [19] Edited by: DirtySnipe on 30/09/2008 10:05:08 I was not present for last nights battle due to GF pwnage, however I was at the last M-O node crash, and the problem is for all our COAD complaining, CCP will never spend the real money needed to fix the game when, with all the problems, 35k-40k people still log in on a regular basis. People will stil continue to pay their subscriptions. I can not see a mass exodus of people from the game. Effectively they have us by the balls. Although I have just purchased warhammer online, and from all the reports it is an excelent game. CCP need to wake up and start paying attention, because as soon as people realise there may be a game to compete... BYE BYE SUBSCRIPTIONS. EDIT FOR GRAMMER/SPELLING
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:16:00 - [20] Originally by: DirtySnipe Edited by: DirtySnipe on 30/09/2008 10:06:33 I was not present for last nights battle due to GF pwnage, however I was at the last M-O node crash, and the problem is for all our COAD complaining, CCP will never spend the real money needed to fix the game when, with all the problems, 35k-40k people still log in on a regular basis. People will stil continue to pay their subscriptions. I can not see a mass exodus of people from the game. Effectively they have us by the balls. Although I have just purchased warhammer online, and from all the reports it is an excelent game. CCP need to wake up and start paying attention, because as soon as people realise there may be a game to compete (not saying at this point warhammer is such a game)... BYE BYE SUBSCRIPTIONS. EDIT FOR GRAMMER/SPELLING Personally i think we all agree to a 48 hr wardec and go to Jita and fight outside the station..... Eve style strike!
Dark Angelete Gallente Dark Angel Battalion	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Heptameron Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Heptameron yes it was an atrocity, not the first, definitley not the last and most importantly and most dangerously has set a precedent for the 'gain ground any way, any how, at any cost' brigade. you reap what you sow. and just how did we sow this one pray tell?? think he means how gayzor and mm noobies love to whine on the forums about lagged up situations.yet you have thrived on bringing numbers and soaking in players for the sake of players>numbers<.how does a group of players that on purpose brought as many people possible to a conflict just for the same reason your seeing now in your own space.now we get to taste the tears of what it is like the other way around.what is funny is the gayzor alt that posted this is almost as bad as the mm alt posts these last few days.
William DeMeo Gallente Genos Occidere deadspace society	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:31:00 - [22] lolol bob winning is always as amusing. Yarr
David Goodwill The Knights Templar	Posted - 2008.09.30 10:48:00 - [23] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Heptameron yes it was an atrocity, not the first, definitley not the last and most importantly and most dangerously has set a precedent for the 'gain ground any way, any how, at any cost' brigade. you reap what you sow. Tbh, coming from the alliance that paraded it was bringing 1000 pilots to the north, is a bit hypocritical.
Minigin eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:16:00 - [24] Edited by: Minigin on 30/09/2008 11:22:00 could you for once just maybe consider that you are losing for any reason other than lag or haxsploit? edit: also thol you stole mah wordz and made dem better wif spellingz . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
Captain Zepos Caldari En plo	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:22:00 - [25] Nice post thanx. i agree 100%
Huan Hunglong Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:23:00 - [26] Originally by: Ikira Onimareu I want to know where all the money we pay CCP goes. Where the money goes, is not your concern. No more than where the money goes after you buy a loaf of bread, some petrol a car or a house. CCP could be wiping their arse on the money if they want, its their money.
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:36:00 - [27] Originally by: Re Mi Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears. There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend. This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players. An essential ingredient in this game is to suspend your belief, to pretend you are an avatar in a world of internet spaceships. This is a story land and a fantasy. We are intrepid pod pilots making our way in a hostile universe, this is our fictional existence. By killing off the endgame scenario, of cap ships and holding space, as an idea players desire to hold, you burst the bubble that suspends us in this world of imagination. A meta world derived from real life has intruded into our carefully constructed reality, and the bubble we live in may blip out of existence as a result. Our avatars become limited, crippled in thought and distant in our imagination. Once that bubble evaporates, EvE is a chat room that happens to have internet spaceships. People may stay for friends for a time, but the magic will be gone. This is not a situation that can be fixed with a petition at that point. This was not a victory for anyone. This was an atrocity. according to my experience when losing dreads against lag (in our case it was just 6 at once desynch etc.. ) the answer "we see no server side evidence" is not exactly helping it. i admire those who work honest to replace such a billion isk loss w/o the help of ebay and paypal. but capital pilots who just dont bother anymore, fans of fleetfight who lose all illusions and all fun along with it in those nodecrash events they would agree with you and see what other games the market keeps avail. these nodecrashes now happen since many years, and one might think a solution to that could have been invented with the same dedication as fleetfights are promoted by CCP. they want us to blob, they want us to do epic figts, they create instruments that make it necessary to blob if you want to conquer space or hold it against conquerors. (cynojamming for the win, what 15 dreads once could do - now requires 50 battleships) i would not blame the one who adapts the tactics to benefit from these sad facts, and i would not blame those who just give up. i do , however, blame an ontherwise fine company in iceland for their lack of activity and not tackling this most critical problem in the past 3 yrs. recruiting -forum
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.09.30 11:46:00 - [28] you know what the lag and node crash outright suck, there is no denying it. when it changes the outcome of a battle it is all the more bitter. however this stuff is not news, it has been happening for as long as I have been playing the game, your only useful option is to suck it up and plan for the next one, maybe your side will be able to log in faster next time? who knows but giving up because of shite servers as far as your enemy is concerned is the same thing as being defeated. all you can do is get back in the fight and keep fighting tell the servers catch fire.
Taldeer uithwe	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:07:00 - [29] very strange that only hostile forces get massacred facing lag or node crash. never heard of a bob fleet got destroyed due to that...strange..
Unfunny Alt Anonymous Forumposters	Posted - 2008.09.30 12:15:00 - [30] Originally by: Re Mi Consider this, how many alliances have lost their space in the past 3 months? How many people will look at this rcent NC coalition defeat and say that holding space in EvE is impossible or pointless. A larger force was massacred due to lag, that is a fact. The fact that this happens seems to defy the imagination. You can make excuses, you can say whatever you want about pvp skills or planning or servers or anything else, those words fall on deaf ears. There is a huge problem with this situation, it is symbolic of and emphasizes a much larger trend. This kind of event undermines the idea of endgame level pvp scenarios in EvE in the minds of players. And it is going to get worse. Anyone of us who is in 0.0 is there because he got lucky at one time or another. Doesn't matter the skills you have, without having the luck finding the group you are in, you'd not be where you are now. New groups formed in empire will have it a lot harder to compete against existing 0.0 entities. Is there any place a new entity can claim space (either in true no sec or npc no sec) and not encounter 200 people blobs? So new player wanting to get into 0.0 will have to join existing entities and the powerblocks will just become bigger and bigger. And the lag pendulum will swing more and more. What I'd like to see is something to make it easier holding small amounts of space, making it harder holding lots of space. And a way to contenst ownership of a system or constellation while being on diffrent nodes. How those things could look like I have no idea, only vague hopes. On the other hand, laggy fleetbattles always existed. So hopefully its not as grim as it could be. Poster and Hauling Alt of Policy Handicapped Main

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