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Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:12:00 - [61] Hell, if you want a good market tip, send me 1 million isk, i'll keep it and then tell you "Here's a tip, trust noone." My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Shakari Sween Space Oddysey Pupule 'Ohana	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:34:00 - [62] Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up!
Rethie Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:54:00 - [63] Edited by: Rethie on 07/10/2008 11:54:10 ^ What she said
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.10.07 11:58:00 - [64] Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed.
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:17:00 - [65] Originally by: Anneka Tong Dirk Magnum is a naughty boy who needs a spanking. So he's not the Messiah?
Rethie Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:34:00 - [66] Edited by: Rethie on 07/10/2008 12:35:09 Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed. I do (sometimes I carebear, when the brain is numb)
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.10.07 12:44:00 - [67] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? 1. Form a gang. 2. Get a passive drake doing missions 3. Agress the salvo thief salvaging your wreck (T1 frig would get instagibbed by the way). 4. Wait for him in PVP ship, all the while having a cloaked Falcon and a couple BSes near by. 5... 6. Profit! ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Zhenga Black Thorn Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:00:00 - [68] Originally by: Delichon Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? 1. Form a gang. 2. Get a passive drake doing missions 3. Agress the salvo thief salvaging your wreck (T1 frig would get instagibbed by the way). 4. Wait for him in PVP ship, all the while having a cloaked Falcon and a couple BSes near by. 5... 6. Profit! That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would **** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player.
Delichon The First Foundation SOLAR FLEET	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:09:00 - [69] Originally by: Zhenga That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would ** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player. ""Check local in Motsu" - Eve expression meaning "doing sensless work that still would not protect you from getting ganked" What I meant was - not only carebears would use this feature. And everytime you see a carebear agressing you - you would think "Does he have over 9000 gangmates waiting for my next move or not?" ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally**. They will be nerfing you directly next. EVE A new game every 6 months. (c) Atomos Darksun
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:11:00 - [70] Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 13:12:35 Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me. This isn't true btw.
Zhenga Black Thorn Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:16:00 - [71] Originally by: Delichon Originally by: Zhenga That is why you check local. and 99% of mission runners would **** there self if they sent a cruise missile at another player. ""Check local in Motsu" - Eve expression meaning "doing sensless work that still would not protect you from getting ganked" What I meant was - not only carebears would use this feature. And everytime you see a carebear agressing you - you would think "Does he have over 9000 gangmates waiting for my next move or not?" well sir I am a motsu ninja salvager (well, my main is) and I kill the little ravens of Motsu when they grow ballz and attack me. Checking local will let you know what kind of odds you are facing as the aggro is only to that person and his/her corp not his gang m8's.
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:18:00 - [72] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Short of a nano nerf not much will change... you really think carebears in highsec would dare shoot at people stealing their wrecks? If a ore thief takes your shit and you're all alone in your mining barge, do you fight back yes/no? ******ed. I would actually prefer if someone jumped into my missions stealing my wrecks as that cuts down on space garbage as i rarely cba to salvage myself.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/10/2008 13:12:35 Originally by: Dirk Magnum Hot off the test server presses: salvaging other peoples' wrecks will flag you, with the same mechanics as can stealing. This means less salvage will be retrieved because some people are scared to death of being flagged to others, which of course means that rig prices will go up. I do not believe that the OP's suggestion that their price will "skyrocket" is accurate though, since so many wrecks end up sitting in empty belts. Why worry about a flag when nobody is around to shoot you when you perform the criminal action? Typical Eve Forum sensationalizing if you ask me. This isn't true btw. Damn, it sounded awesome __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:39:00 - [74] Edited by: Haradgrim on 07/10/2008 13:40:14 If they implemented a salvage rights change; salvaging in PVP ships would become a worthwhile enterprise! -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Miya Okolia	Posted - 2008.10.07 13:57:00 - [75] Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 13:57:29 Eve is too predictable..... Actually the people of eve are too predictable, which makes the game, in a sense, easy. hi
Anneka Tong B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:03:00 - [76] Originally by: Joss Sparq Originally by: Anneka Tong Dirk Magnum is a naughty boy who needs a spanking. So he's not the Messiah? Nope, just a rather good threadjacker. Originally by: Dirk Magnum This isn't true btw. but it was a good thread hijack \o/ I like genetic engineering Past projects: The Radioactive Sheep Current project: CyberCow
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Shakari Sween Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up! Apparently that will no longer be so. Logically, your argument also applies to loot cans and they should never have been tagged either; but in the EVE world, logic doesn't always apply. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Maximillian Bayonette White Lion Manufacture and Salvage	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:22:00 - [78] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Shakari Sween Why doesnt everyone realise that npc wrecks arent owned by the person that shot them. After all it wasnt their ship that got blowen up. Technicaly they are owned by the npc's that got blowen up! Apparently that will no longer be so. Originally by: Dirk Magnum This isn't true btw
Philis McCrakin	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:29:00 - [79] I heard from a reliable source that the salvage components will no longer drop when salvaging wrecks. Instead, you will just be able to pick up the installed rigs out of the wreck to make things easier. Honest.
ShadowMaiden Amarr Metal Machine	Posted - 2008.10.07 14:39:00 - [80] Originally by: Miya Okolia Edited by: Miya Okolia on 07/10/2008 01:08:21 Lol If anybody knew anything about the market and how it worked you would look at the data and be able to see for yourself. I am not going to argue with anybody, i knew i would get flamed, but i will be bumping this post in less than a week with a big =) This is what i do for a living in eve, the market. Its also what i do irl. MMO's - helping people who think pretend money is serious business believe they matter I wish I was a 3ft Doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes
Faife Minmatar Noctiscion The Black Isle	Posted - 2008.10.07 15:02:00 - [81] there is gullible, and then there is eve gullible.
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.10.07 16:01:00 - [82] Rigs are or for the reach. I personally don't use em on pvp ships. Real men fly rigless!
Dextrome	Posted - 2008.10.07 16:38:00 - [83] Edited by: Dextrome on 07/10/2008 16:39:46 If no one owns wrecks why does the corp ticker of the person who blewup the npc show next to the wreck? It should work the same as with cans. If this changes then my main will be more than happy to try and bait cnr pilots. To stay on topic, i don't think the market cares who salvages so prices shouldn't change much.
DubanFP Caldari Kylia Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:27:00 - [84] Rigs are about to skyrocket because a forum alt says so! /me sells all his old Tractor Beam BPOs and buys random rigs P.S. wonders who got the "Tractor Beam BPO" reference. _______________ "Cheap" and "Lame" are words created by people who refuse to admit they have been completely and utterly outclassed.
Sinder Ohm Demonic Corp G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:29:00 - [85] I know his secret! The Wall Street finance crisis is going to spill over to eve and affect rigs first we are all ****ed
Slade Trillgon Siorai Iontach	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:36:00 - [86] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 07/10/2008 17:36:21 Originally by: Malcanis I've revised my previous opinion on salvage flagging. I now think it would be an excellent idea. In fact I think salvaging someone wreck should not only get you flagged, but also autotargetted. I read to this respones and laughed hard Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2008.10.07 17:46:00 - [87] Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 07/10/2008 17:52:47 /rageoff Originally by: Catharacta My CNR runs on salvager tears.
Mika Meroko Minmatar Crayon Posting Inc	Posted - 2008.10.07 19:36:00 - [88] Originally by: Tiirae I build and sell about 2000 rigs a week in Jita; raw materials have been trended up a little lately but there's no sign of anything dramatic happening. If they do change it so salvage-theft results in a flag, I don't think it would make a lot of difference. The amount of salvage being brought in by 50,000 people salvaging their own missions will dwarf the efforts of the few hundred people doing salvage theft. There may be a slight bump upward but I'd be surprised if it was more than 5% or so. OTOH, the OP may be talking about some other reason. No idea. It will be interesting to see cos I've got about 5b worth of salvage in stock, it would be nice if that doubled in value overnight! .... have to agree with this person... is not gonna change.. XD Originally by: CCP Atropos I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
Gaelenus Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:02:00 - [89] bump back up to see if op was right.. me thinks not
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.13 16:51:00 - [90] Originally by: Gaelenus bump back up to see if op was right.. me thinks not Not surprisingly, the OP was completely full of crap.

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