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Wraithstorm Armada.	Posted - 2008.10.12 02:25:00 - [1] Edited by: Wraithstorm on 12/10/2008 02:27:51 Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. Combine this with the recent incursions of multiple pirate factions on the side of the Minmitar, and the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Is it not enough that you outnumber us in every way possible? Is it not enough to fight in the heat of battle, and know that your victory is yours to claim, and not an outside entity? Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you? Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle over this pathetic attempt to dominate our skies. The Minmitar are on the ropes, and they are using every possible method to try to claim victory. No matter how diluted their "victory" may be. Lets show the Minmitar that they can bring whoever they like to this fight. We will still send them back to Amamake with their tails between their legs. Minmitar Militia, Pathetic, simply pathetic
Wraithstorm Armada.	Posted - 2008.10.12 02:30:00 - [2] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/sinbignasty/EVE/TZVIhotdrop10-11-08.jpg
Invelious Amarr Vigilia Valeria Expeditionary Forces	Posted - 2008.10.12 03:17:00 - [3] Pathetic aren't they. Well they just prove the point that dogs move in packs, no matter. We will still put them down like the mutts that they are.
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.12 04:16:00 - [4] Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 12/10/2008 02:27:51 Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. Combine this with the recent incursions of multiple pirate factions on the side of the Minmitar, and the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Is it not enough that you outnumber us in every way possible? Is it not enough to fight in the heat of battle, and know that your victory is yours to claim, and not an outside entity? Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you? Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle over this pathetic attempt to dominate our skies. The Minmitar are on the ropes, and they are using every possible method to try to claim victory. No matter how diluted their "victory" may be. Lets show the Minmitar that they can bring whoever they like to this fight. We will still send them back to Amamake with their tails between their legs. Minmitar Militia, Pathetic, simply pathetic Dont be complaining about pirates right now sweetheart, the tides have just turned in your favour.. Today Minmatar Militia came to a gate as we were attacking our enemies and engaged my fleet and I lost a ship..... They were told in local communications what we were doing and they would not be targeted and they decided to engage anyway.. Minmatar Militia just officially lost heretic support once and for all.. You have abused us, used us, taken us for granted and attributed all your sucesses to everyone but Heretics as we paved the way to Victory from the very beginning... The Amarr just got an ally without even realising it... Low security space has always been a pirate haven.......... We tried to help the Minmatar as we have always supported their cause, but at the end of the day... Fark you all...... You useless, pathetic, good for nothing, unappreciative a holes... I have always had more respect for Armada and Slackers and at the end of the day, we consider them more our friends than the Minmatar, who just dont get it... We wont be proppin you up anymore Minmatar, we wont be covering your arses and FC'ing the fleet battles that help you win.... You are now our enemies.. Pirates are pirates, we will be shooting everything that isnt blue to us.... * Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Wraithstorm Armada.	Posted - 2008.10.12 04:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Yendaj Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 12/10/2008 02:27:51 Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. Combine this with the recent incursions of multiple pirate factions on the side of the Minmitar, and the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Is it not enough that you outnumber us in every way possible? Is it not enough to fight in the heat of battle, and know that your victory is yours to claim, and not an outside entity? Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you? Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle over this pathetic attempt to dominate our skies. The Minmitar are on the ropes, and they are using every possible method to try to claim victory. No matter how diluted their "victory" may be. Lets show the Minmitar that they can bring whoever they like to this fight. We will still send them back to Amamake with their tails between their legs. Minmitar Militia, Pathetic, simply pathetic Dont be complaining about pirates right now sweetheart, the tides have just turned in your favour.. Today Minmatar Militia came to a gate as we were attacking our enemies and engaged my fleet and I lost a ship..... They were told in local communications what we were doing and they would not be targeted and they decided to engage anyway.. Minmatar Militia just officially lost heretic support once and for all.. You have abused us, used us, taken us for granted and attributed all your sucesses to everyone but Heretics as we paved the way to Victory from the very beginning... The Amarr just got an ally without even realising it... Low security space has always been a pirate haven.......... We tried to help the Minmatar as we have always supported their cause, but at the end of the day... F*ark you all...... You useless, pathetic, good for nothing, unappreciative a holes... I have always had more respect for Armada and Slackers and at the end of the day, we consider them more our friends than the Minmatar, who just dont get it... We wont be proppin you up anymore Minmatar, we wont be covering your arses and FC'ing the fleet battles that help you win.... You are now our enemies.. Pirates are pirates, we will be shooting everything that isnt blue to us.... Heretic was the glue that held the minmitars binding together. Interesting times ahead. It was an honor fighting you Yendaj. Im sure we will speak again.
Vlad Cetes Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.12 05:22:00 - [6] Fire detected, commencing pouring benzin on the fire. I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
MADDOGzors THE FINAL STAND	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:36:00 - [7] Edited by: MADDOGzors on 12/10/2008 07:36:58 Waahhhh... Listen you amarr scum, do us all a favor and yank your manpon out to absorb those tears.
Algey The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 07:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Wraithstorm http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/sinbignasty/EVE/TZVIhotdrop10-11-08.jpg Why do you imagine that we would ignore a slaver capital ship?
Algey The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 08:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Yendaj Dont be complaining about pirates right now sweetheart, the tides have just turned in your favour.. Today Minmatar Militia came to a gate as we were attacking our enemies and engaged my fleet and I lost a ship..... They were told in local communications what we were doing and they would not be targeted and they decided to engage anyway.. Minmatar Militia just officially lost heretic support once and for all.. I'm not entirely certain of the leadership structure, but you've been saying that you've been killing the Minimater Militia, so why wouldn't they kill you? In fact I believe you said.. Originally by: Yendaj And to the other happy commenter.... Heretic Nation can also be found on plenty of Minmtar loss mails as the source of their destruction....Pirates do that you know, kill people, indescriminantly....
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.10.12 09:01:00 - [10] Whilst our corp was serving in the militia, we never once saw the Amarrian forces deploying capitals at stargates, and other such bold acts. We kept our capitals on standby for such an occasion, and we were consistently disappointed. Now that the minmatar militia lack capital-heavy corps, the Amarrians have seen fit to become a little more bold. Some might say too bold, and indeed, predictable. The assets of slavers are legitimate targets. Perhaps you will think twice in the future before deploying your capital ships outside of dock range, in what are otherwise conventional ship fights. The Amarrian militia may like the advantage that it gives them in combat. We like the targets it provides us as opportunists. It is all in the balance of risk versus reward. ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05

Arkady Sadik Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.12 09:31:00 - [11] Originally by: Wraithstorm the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK Originally by: Wraithstorm multiple pirate factions Originally by: Wraithstorm Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle Originally by: Wraithstorm the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Good self analysis.
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.12 09:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Algey Originally by: Yendaj Dont be complaining about pirates right now sweetheart, the tides have just turned in your favour.. Today Minmatar Militia came to a gate as we were attacking our enemies and engaged my fleet and I lost a ship..... They were told in local communications what we were doing and they would not be targeted and they decided to engage anyway.. Minmatar Militia just officially lost heretic support once and for all.. I'm not entirely certain of the leadership structure, but you've been saying that you've been killing the Minimater Militia, so why wouldn't they kill you? In fact I believe you said.. Originally by: Yendaj And to the other happy commenter.... Heretic Nation can also be found on plenty of Minmtar loss mails as the source of their destruction....Pirates do that you know, kill people, indescriminantly.... Without running through the entire thing from start to finish.. Minmatar have always been slap happpy with their guns including shooting their own FC Mirrorgod on so many occasions I have lost count now.. Though we tolerated this for quite some time as the behaviour of baby pod pilots... They then took it upon themselves to venture out in their blobs and attack anyone else they saw fit when the Amarr remained docked up... We can go around in a who did what all day long..... Its really quite simple, one situation where Minmatar were told that the people we were shooting at were enemies and that we werent there for them, they then waited 2 mins as we killed the enemies before opening fire on us...and now expect Heretics who have propped them up from day one to give a snot about them.... Get a grip... Minmatar are also probably some of the worst loot stealers of all the factions..... Even when Heretics had a huge war chest that we used to reimburse thier ship loses, they still stole from our wrecks personaly and abused us at every turn...I've not recieved the loot back from one ship I have lost to date..... Most of the time the Minmatar shot at us first and died miserably as a result.... So take it as you wish to take it... No longer my problem... ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **
Algey The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 10:01:00 - [13] I'd expect that. The militias do not all work together, and Mirrorgod is something of a blinky pirate. The militia used to shoot at us from time to time when we were deployed. The point is though that you said that you do attack the militia now and again, so being surprised that they shoot at you when you're hunting them, or not hunting them, seems a little naive.
Scagga Laebetrovo Evil Bastards	Posted - 2008.10.12 11:35:00 - [14] The Amarr Militia has weathered hardship many times before. As every storm has its phases, the eyewall has just made its entrance. It, like all Minmatar efforts, will be transient and dissipate with time.
Mukiri Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2008.10.12 11:51:00 - [15] Edited by: Mukiri on 12/10/2008 11:53:29 Pathetic, simply pathetic. Are the supporters of the Amarr so blind that they think they can warp reality with their words alone? War is not about what is fair or what is the way we want it. War is ugly, nasty, violent and to win you use WHATEVER means you must. It is not desperation to use whatever you can to hurt the enemy, it is war plain and simple. So spin your propoganda, tell yourself how noble and righteous you are but when the war ends and the Minmatar stand free it will not matter how we are free, simply the fact that we ARE FREE!
zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:16:00 - [16] Edited by: zoolkhan on 12/10/2008 12:22:30 Originally by: Wraithstorm Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you? if you consider ushra'khan to be an outsider in the fight for minmatar freedom then you display a massive educational lack. As far i remember we picked up the fight long before foundation of the militias. Originally by: Invelious Pathetic aren't they. Well they just prove the point that dogs move in packs, You mean Wolfes. Dogs are actually rarely ever seen away from a holder. Originally by: Wraithstorm in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. I take this as acknowledgement that we succseeded recruiting -forum
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:23:00 - [17] Dear diary, today, for the first time in a while the amarrians decided not to use 6-9 cap ships to swing the tide in an 60 v 60 fight as they have done the past few weeks. As a result they didn't lose them. Some how they seem to think that they needed to throw this up to the greater community as proof that the minmatar republic is pathetic. Apparantly having friends who are willing for fight for a cause and who are only too happy to come play cap games is a cause for being called weak now.... Got to wander what they think of CVA from all this :)
Grr Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:41:00 - [18] I won't speak on behalf of the rest of the alliance but thoughts in my mind are "free cap kills to pad my killboard stats" It's a shame I have better things to do.
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2008.10.12 12:49:00 - [19] The problem with the Heretic in war is not so easy and maybe I'm just a very small warrior from the lines, but I downed on of them and was downed by them. Why? In the heat of battle you often have to react very fast and many of the militia forces have few or no experience with that. A few days ago my group came to a gate where we saw a lot of blinking neutrals that were fighting some targets. We could not see if the wartarget was the target or the alliance of this event and I simply got the order to go and tackle. That I did, targets were names, suddenly I saw "Mirrorgod" on my locks and warped out as fast as it was possible. The rest of my group was downed in the event, we downed nobody. After this the Heretics were set blue on our display so this could not happen again. So, it's like in every war: friendly fire isn't, and in the heat of a battle those things may happen. I could see the Warnings on local the second I warped out cause war in a Rifter is a very fast thing and I usually don't have time to read the local while fighting. I can't say that I'm happy about losing an allied force such strong as the Heretics just cause some friendly fire. I never blamed them for downing my ship(s). DIVIDE AND CONQUER, that's written on the wrecked bow of an amarr vessel that I did hang at the ceiling on one of our militia bars. And this will happen. We may outnumber the Amarr, shure. But we are not winning the war. You can count the few veterans on our side while the Amarr have very few green pilots in their ranks, all ships I helped to down are piloted by veterans and fitted with T2 stuff most of us neither can handle nor afford. To pocket away the loot may be a problem. But neither I nor the people I fly with do this. I never got back one of my cheap T1 fitted Rifters, but am happy to have been supported with money to be able to come back. Other people may have huge amounts of isk stored on their accounts, but I have not and many of the pilots I know neither. Cause many of us do their duty the moment they reach the faction standing needed for military duty and not a minute later. It is a funny thing that some people see a "veteran" in me yet and it's telling stories about the level of our average pilot cause I am no veteran at all, just one of the green pilots from the ranks that have yet seen a fight. If one like me has sometimes command over wings and is seen as a veteran, then we really need help. Thats for shure. So are you really shure you want to hand us over to the overwhelming power of the Amarr slaverarmy and call us thieves and triggerhappy yahoos? -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Sapphrine Dear diary, today, for the first time in a while the amarrians decided not to use 6-9 cap ships to swing the tide in an 60 v 60 fight as they have done the past few weeks. As a result they didn't lose them. Some how they seem to think that they needed to throw this up to the greater community as proof that the minmatar republic is pathetic. Apparantly having friends who are willing for fight for a cause and who are only too happy to come play cap games is a cause for being called weak now.... Got to wander what they think of CVA from all this :) You Sapphy,who are my friend.... I number them as few... You are the one I shed tears over now... Do not count us as your enemy, for we have been your friend and supporter for so long now we have lost track of time... Know that whatever comes from here on in.... Heretics must take care of its own.. You are now and will always be countered among our friends and you know that should you ever call we would be there.... That is all I can say towards you now my friend... You know the heart of Heretics... Do not ever forget who we are... ** Nemo Me Impune Lacessit **

khamn	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:28:00 - [21] Friendly fires always happens when people who fight 'together' don't have set mutual blue standings and practise NBSI (or 'flagged-KOS'). End of story. Negociate standings or assume your loss ...
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:59:00 - [22] Edited by: Poreuomai on 12/10/2008 14:02:06 Originally by: Wraithstorm Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. And why shouldn't they? We seek to free the slaves and fight the slavers, why should the Minmatar militia not have our help? Perhaps you also think that U'K corps should not temporarily join the militia either?
Alica Wildfire Minmatar Federal Investigations Agency	Posted - 2008.10.12 13:59:00 - [23] Edited by: Alica Wildfire on 12/10/2008 14:00:08 Originally by: khamn Friendly fires always happens when people who fight 'together' don't have set mutual blue standings and practise NBSI (or 'flagged-KOS'). End of story. Negociate standings or assume your loss ... Exactly what we did. And if my word counts on this it will stay for I don't fire on Mitar ships if they don't show hostile actions or I'm told otherwise from the FC. But there are many corporations involved in this war and the first thing that should be done is to blue all standings. Maybe this is more of a problem than triggerhappy pilots. I was on duty in militia fleets and the FC was announcing clear that nobody should fire on neutrals if they really, really don't know exactly what they do. And this we did. Or better: I did, for I can't speak for anybody else. But it's a shame to lose guns on our side. The Amarr are dominant on most occations but numbers. And to bring down the Amarr from the Top Rankings of the statistics is a question of honour for me. I try to work on that the next week. Even if I can't hope to survive a battle with Veshta Yoshida a minute. There must be a way... -- FREEDOM, PUNK & AUTOCANNONS
Wraithstorm Armada.	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Poreuomai Edited by: Poreuomai on 12/10/2008 14:02:06 Originally by: Wraithstorm Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre. And why shouldn't they? We seek to free the slaves and fight the slavers, why should the Minmatar militia not have our help? Perhaps you also think that U'K corps should not temporarily join the militia either? Not at all. If UK Corporations want to join the Minmitar militia to fight alongside fellow s****then that is for them to decide. At least then they are valid targets. Now, I will once again remind those who dont know or fail to acknowledge, that in the beginning of this conflict the Amarr Militia fell victim to countless Capital hotdrops at the hands of 0utbreak, a then Minmitar Militia power Corporation... Since they've left the Minmitar Militia Capital presence has been extinguished while the Amarr Militia began fielding several in combat to even the odds a bit as we were, and still are outnumbered during most battles. These Capitals were from a Militia Corporation. Mine to be precise. You are speaking to a Fleet Commander whos lost and won many battles. I know more then most all is fair in love, and war, as do my men. The point Im trying to make is that yet again the Minmitar militia proves that if they cannot beat em, call on someone else to do it for you. Its still pathetic no matter how UK pilots try to spin it, and the public sees right through it.
Galliana Foresta Gallente Fleeting Moments of Insanity	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:42:00 - [25] Thanks for the pewpew HRECY. Always garaunteed a fight with you guys around. U'K can die in a fire, however. 20 caps to bolster your crippled Minmatar subcap fleet in a fight you were bound to lose. HIRING\|KB\|PRESS
Orun Erajen Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:47:00 - [26] Dear gods, will Armada never shut up? What pompous ******s. ----- Orun Erajen LeHane Family Representative and Capsuleer Liason
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2008.10.12 14:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/10/2008 14:58:38 Originally by: Grr I won't speak on behalf of the rest of the alliance but thoughts in my mind are "free cap kills to pad my killboard stats" It's a shame I have better things to do. Do remind us what happened to last CVA capital fleet which ventured out from the protection of the cynojammed cushion of Providence. The CVA have made foes with enough entities to understand that in deeper waters, bigger fish swim. They need only look to Catch to understand this. We know our place in the food chain. Do you? ---------- AKA 'Bitter Dog' Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2008.10.12 15:44:00 - [28] It astonishes me that the Amarr will drop eight carriers on top of a battleship fleet, and then complain about the Minmatar militia's tactics. I mean, eight carriers - fine. OK. You have them, so you might as well drop them, doesn't make sense to just keep them mothballed. But then the Minmatar start calling in their allies... that's quite the beyond pail. How dare they call in people with ideological similarities to them? How dare they call in privateers who want to shoot at people, and happen to want to shoot at the Amarr more than the Minmatar? How dare they not lie down and die like you want them to? I completely agree with you sir. It's quite pathetic of the Minmatar to want to win the war. They should just lie down and die, like the Amarr demand of them. ... oh wait. ----- CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:00:00 - [29] Did someone actually call U'K "outsiders"? I must have accidentally invented a form of drop the effects of which don't wear off normally... Because this thread simply cannot exist, it is too bizarre. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.12 16:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 12/10/2008 14:58:38 Originally by: Grr I won't speak on behalf of the rest of the alliance but thoughts in my mind are "free cap kills to pad my killboard stats" It's a shame I have better things to do. Do remind us what happened to last CVA capital fleet which ventured out from the protection of the cynojammed cushion of Providence. The CVA have made foes with enough entities to understand that in deeper waters, bigger fish swim. They need only look to Catch to understand this. We know our place in the food chain. Do you? I see the Ushra'Khan habit of taking credit for others work is rubbing off nicely onto you butters. Now I understand you would never put your capital fleet in a position where it could take harm, we however do not think that way. The only way to learn is by doing, capital ships are not expensive but experience is priceless. Let us see if that Ushra'Khan capital fleet is so brave now it has been marked.



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