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Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:19:00 -
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garrek, let me be a little clearer then as it seems years of zealotry has rotted your brain, I was mocking Wraith for his comparison of u'k using CVA as a comparable demonstration. Further and in light of CVA's stunning failure to keep on side with the amarrian militia i thought it made an amusing juxtaposition.
You seem to have this deluded belief that every time CVA is written somewhere someone is asking for your unwanted comments.
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Sinia
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.10.13 16:44:00 -
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How exactly is CVA and Slackers shooting at each other any different from Outbreak and Ushra'Khan shooting at each other while Outbreak were members of the Matari militia?
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Demonor
Gallente Armada.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:37:00 -
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All that was really funny....Just goes to show how the minmitars are so desperate for kills they Hotdropped a Rev/moros on a Crow/ishkur. The ishkur being mine. Sadly for there Cyno ruppy pilot did not survive :) So more or less it is getting more and more lame. Just yesterday we had even odd numbers even though they were slightly heavy. We Still stood our grounds to fight, As they were taking a beating Yet Again getting hotdropped by a Moros/Rev, Pilots are EMF and ThatCCP. Come fight in real ships we shall see how long you last. As for Heretics always been a pleasure fighting you guys.
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.10.13 17:41:00 -
[64]
What amazing feat of logical contortion allowed you to classify capital ships as not being "real ships"? -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Demonor All that was really funny....Just goes to show how the minmitars are so desperate for kills they Hotdropped a Rev/moros on a Crow/ishkur. The ishkur being mine. Sadly for there Cyno ruppy pilot did not survive :) So more or less it is getting more and more lame. Just yesterday we had even odd numbers even though they were slightly heavy. We Still stood our grounds to fight, As they were taking a beating Yet Again getting hotdropped by a Moros/Rev, Pilots are EMF and ThatCCP. Come fight in real ships we shall see how long you last. As for Heretics always been a pleasure fighting you guys.
We would only ever hotdrop dreadnoughts to kill capital class ships. I think even the most inexperienced of pilots understands that you cannot kill support ships with capital class guns.
If we wanted to engage with your support fleet, we'd have all been in carriers. We're really not interested in destroying swarms of Omens and Harbingers which look like they've been fitted from a Jita scrapyard.
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AKA 'Bitter Dog'
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine
You seem to have this deluded belief that every time CVA is written somewhere someone is asking for your unwanted comments.
Oh, I'm well aware of your purpose in bringing us up. I'm merely highlighting the humor in all this. Mention of CVA is okay when it's on your terms. When CVA actually enters the discussion to speak for themselves, suddenly it's time to put a lid on any CVA talk at all.
That's good stuff, Sapphrine.
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Popsikle
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 12/10/2008 02:27:51
Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre.
Combine this with the recent incursions of multiple pirate factions on the side of the Minmitar, and the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Is it not enough that you outnumber us in every way possible? Is it not enough to fight in the heat of battle, and know that your victory is yours to claim, and not an outside entity? Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you?
Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle over this pathetic attempt to dominate our skies. The Minmitar are on the ropes, and they are using every possible method to try to claim victory. No matter how diluted their "victory" may be.
Lets show the Minmitar that they can bring whoever they like to this fight. We will still send them back to Amamake with their tails between their legs.
Minmitar Militia, Pathetic, simply pathetic
You know that there is no such thing as a "diluted victory" right? All is far in love and war. ____ <t20> i want to be in a manager potition at Hooters <SaraDawn> Garthagk, do you have it up ? <Garthagk> I can get it up anytime. |

Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sinia How exactly is CVA and Slackers shooting at each other any different from Outbreak and Ushra'Khan shooting at each other while Outbreak were members of the Matari militia?
Pot kettle black?
the difference is: tri(in militia) attacked UK , reason they gave: UK is shooting amarr. UK retreated to not hinder the minmatar militia success at that time.
CVA attacked slackers ( in amarr militia) not caring about the effect on the amarr success at that time, placing the CVA roe higher than the empire defense.
see the difference?
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Vlad Cetes
Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2008.10.13 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
If we wanted to engage with your support fleet, we'd have all been in carriers. We're really not interested in destroying swarms of Omens and Harbingers which look like they've been fitted from a Jita scrapyard.
Individual Dog I would recommend you check our killboard. A Navy Megathron was destroyed in the Bleaks with a fitting even worse than scrapyard. I believe it is referred to as a "honor tank".
I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. |

emf
Amarr Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Demonor All that was really funny....Just goes to show how the minmitars are so desperate for kills they Hotdropped a Rev/moros on a Crow/ishkur. The ishkur being mine. Sadly for there Cyno ruppy pilot did not survive :) So more or less it is getting more and more lame. Just yesterday we had even odd numbers even though they were slightly heavy. We Still stood our grounds to fight, As they were taking a beating Yet Again getting hotdropped by a Moros/Rev, Pilots are EMF and ThatCCP. Come fight in real ships we shall see how long you last. As for Heretics always been a pleasure fighting you guys.
I'm mentioned on the forums! Wheeeeeee, do I win EVE now? Having said that we're being hunted by BOTH the amarr and heretics. Great fun, YARR. And the above is what happens when the bait cyno rupture gets caught by a crow and ishkur and runs out of capacitor. :( Join Knights of the Black Sun today. Contact emf in game. |

Sapphrine
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Oh, I'm well aware of your purpose in bringing us up. I'm merely highlighting the humor in all this. Mention of CVA is okay when it's on your terms. When CVA actually enters the discussion to speak for themselves, suddenly it's time to put a lid on any CVA talk at all.
That's good stuff, Sapphrine.
I'm fairly certain cycling it around a third time wont really improve the quality of dialogue, lets just say you need something new to do with your time than repeat the same nosensical argument in a different way.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.13 21:52:00 -
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For those of you who haven't noticed, Ushra'Khan has, since it's inception, taken ... shall we say, a "keen interest" in the activities of slavers, with (and this is no secret) the ultimate purpose of ensuring an end those activities for all time. I realize that many of the members of the Amarrian militia -- being recent coverts to the slaver cause -- might be unaware of this, but warriors raising the bloody fist of the Ushra'Khan have been fighting against the empire whose flag you wave and its supporters since before most of you first saw the inside of a pod.
This latest CONCORD-sponsored variation on a conflict that has raged for a millenia is a new war only in your feeble minds. If you are surprised by our interest and involvement ... frankly, you've not been paying attention. Consider this a mild warning: we will fight against slavers wherever and whenever we choose. The determined warriors of the Tribal Liberation Force and the Militia are our brothers-in-arms and we will fight alongside them as we see fit. Save your opinions regarding our methods for someone who cares.
We come for our people. DEATH TO THE CRUSADER SCUM!
-- Becq Starforged Ushra'Khan
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Garreck
Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine
I'm fairly certain cycling it around a third time wont really improve the quality of dialogue
That much is certain.
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Conlin
Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Sapphrine
I'm fairly certain cycling it around a third time wont really improve the quality of dialogue
That much is certain.
Garreck ma wee munchkin ....... shhh !!!!your starting to look desperately foolish !
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zoolkhan
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 14/10/2008 08:51:11 Garreck hates us - we hate him. Now that i explained it to you all we can perhaps focus on more important things:)
ps: i was rememberd from people in my own alliance that the use of the word trailwater was unfortunate and could be misunderstood (?). If that is the case - I blame my onboard translator, and want everybody to know that i do not disrespect those in the militia who are brothers in arms for a common cause.
Education of the Amarr milita whining fraction on our role in the fight against slavery was necessary though. It is a historical fact that the Amarr and the Minmatar militias are walking on an old path created long ago by PIE, FoM, Oracle - who then merged U'K and CVA as soon alliance creation was tolerated by concord.
Despite our personal hatered to certain individuals we,the militia members as well,should respect the historical place those institutions have earned. Those whom we have worked with, seem to do so. Those whom we worked against, need to seek council with their old leaders in the conflict ro receive more background on this.
if you eat an apple, respect the tree if you drink water, think of the fountain (anonymous poet south-continent planet matar, system pator - 230 years ago)
recruiting -forum
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan Education of the Amarr milita whining fraction on our role in the fight against slavery was necessary though. It is a historical fact that the Amarr and the Minmatar militias are walking on an old path created long ago by PIE, FoM, Oracle - who then merged U'K and CVA as soon alliance creation was tolerated by concord.
Despite our personal hatered to certain individuals we,the militia members as well,should respect the historical place those institutions have earned. Those whom we have worked with, seem to do so.
"Mr" Zoolkhan is quite right concerning the ongoing hatred of the inbred U'K alliance for all that is good and pure. They have fought for their socalled ideals for a long time prior to the formation of the noble Amarr militia. They should be recognized as one of the original sources of evil spreading from the failed Minmatar "republic".
The Amarr Militia would do well to respect their provess and capability for evildoing. After all, they have trained and practised it far longer than your average "freedom fighting" zombie.
However, while it is true that their abilities should be respected, zoolkhan seems to delude himself into thinking that he himself and his organisation of halfbreeds and subhumans should be respected for what they are. How strange a notion. No true believer will ever respect that which is obviously a mockery of GOD.
Ushra Khan should be hunted down and destroyed on sight be every peaceloving and lawabiding citizen of the our glorious empire.
Do not be fooled by them not being members of the rebel militia rabble. They are your enemies, no doubt about it.
Q: How do you make a disobediant Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt. |

Mattduk
Gallente Universal Army
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Posted - 2008.10.14 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wraithstorm Edited by: Wraithstorm on 12/10/2008 02:27:51
Seeing that they could not match the Amarr Militias Capital strength hull for hull in the ongoing battle for supremecy in this war the Minmitar militia have called forth the UK to save them, and attempt to put an end to the Amarr Militias Capital Ship domination in theatre.
Combine this with the recent incursions of multiple pirate factions on the side of the Minmitar, and the result you get is 1 desperate enemy. Is it not enough that you outnumber us in every way possible? Is it not enough to fight in the heat of battle, and know that your victory is yours to claim, and not an outside entity? Why call in outsiders to fight your battle for you?
Fighters of the Amarr Militia, do not buckle over this pathetic attempt to dominate our skies. The Minmitar are on the ropes, and they are using every possible method to try to claim victory. No matter how diluted their "victory" may be.
Lets show the Minmitar that they can bring whoever they like to this fight. We will still send them back to Amamake with their tails between their legs.
Minmitar Militia, Pathetic, simply pathetic
You guys never change do you? For four years I've heard the same hipocrisy over and over.
I've got three words for you mateypoos...
SEE VEE AYE

Or alternatively you can go with the less mentally challenging...
GET OVER IT
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.14 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Octavinus Augustus They should be recognized as one of the original sources of evil spreading from the failed Minmatar "republic".
If an evil person calls you evil, does that mean you are good?
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.10.16 19:42:00 -
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I'm not normally prone to this kind of post, but this is driving me nuts.
It's "Minmatar". "Min" - offspring or little people. "Matar" - the mother planet. "Minmatar" or "Matari", "Minnies" for short.
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |

Koronakesh
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Posted - 2008.10.17 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char I'm not normally prone to this kind of post, but this is driving me nuts.
It's "Minmatar". "Min" - offspring or little people. "Matar" - the mother planet. "Minmatar" or "Matari", "Minnies" for short.
Indeed heathen evanda, apparently your etymological knowledge knows no bounds. Although I must endorse this idea that matari are metaphorically "littler", if you will, than we Amarr, intellectually speaking of course.
There is no reason to include any exaggerated statement of Amarrian capital drops, as was done earlier in this list of correspondence. the matari rebels have used the same to tactic to great effect, sadly enough. My prayers go to those who perished in such engagements.
I am saddened by the engagement between SL and CVA, though now that SL is pulling out of the crusade, perhaps some proper sense can once again take hold. Fellow worshippers of Our Most High Lord, have no fear of the servants of the Evil One with whom you wage this holy war. Remember that you do not fight for their destruction, you fight for their redemption. Help them to save them from themselves, and bring these wayward children back onto that Path of Light.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Poreuomai
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus They should be recognized as one of the original sources of evil spreading from the failed Minmatar "republic".
If an evil person calls you evil, does that mean you are good?
It is a sad thing to see that even in your rebellion you still turn to your Amarrian betters for spiritual guidance.
You seem to inherently recognize that we Amarr are better spiritual guides than any woodoo priests, freedom philosophers or democratic demagogues you Minmatar are yourself capable of rearing. Yet you persist in rejecting all that is good and true. How can a true believer be anything but sad at this thought?
Since you recognize our greater wisdom and seek our advice, why don't you just take the step and come home? Come home to GOD and enlightenment. Come home to peace of mind and purpose of being.
Remeber that GOD's word is not a shopping mall. You can not buy some and leave some behind. Our guidance is not to be taken or rejected at your leisure. You either follow the law of GOD or you don't. There's no middle way.
Leave your heathen ways behind and return to GOD. He may still find it in his heart to forgive you. Let your penance be a sign of your sincerity.
GOD is waiting for his prodigal sons and daughters.
Come home.
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Mukiri
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.10.17 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mukiri on 17/10/2008 12:17:12
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Remeber that GOD's word is not a shopping mall. You can not buy some and leave some behind. Our guidance is not to be taken or rejected at your leisure. You either follow the law of GOD or you don't. There's no middle way.
Interesting, your own races history however shows that is exactly how you use God's Word as you put it. You take from it the meaning you wish at the time and then your rulers change it as it suites their needs. Perhaps you should study your races history a bit more fully. Even now you are doing this very thing. Did not your own traditions, based on the word of god demand that the Emperor could not be a clone since this was not a pure form? Yet here we are with a clone on the throne. What was the reasoning for this, was your God not strong enough to raise the dead without the assistance of technology?
I find it humorous that a race that has spent their time taking only the parts of their precisous word they like and ignoring the rest would dare tell others that is not how it is done. Have no fear hwoever for as always this will be corrected when yet another volume is written to add to the word of God. Does it not strike anyone else as odd that the Amarr need to keep printing corrections and volumes of changes to Gods word. Do not worry though Amarr sooner or later you will get it right, after all Gods word cannot be perfect until your race says it is, for the moment anyway.
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Koronakesh
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Posted - 2008.10.17 13:48:00 -
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Her Holiness is not a clone. Her return to us was prophecied, and that prophecy has been fulfilled. Push aside the demonic influence that has been disguised as logic and accept this. Your soul will be the better for it, if you stop trying to rationalize God's actions, for He, and all His deeds, are above such trivialties.
As always, Matari, i wish you freedom from the Deceiver's machinations, and pray you will return to the Lord who still, even now, loves and cares for you.
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Mukiri
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.10.17 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Koronakesh Her Holiness is not a clone.
Your proof of that is? Where you a witness at her miraculous descent from heaven?
Also I find it very telling you do not address the rest of Amarr hsitory of changing the word of god to suit their immediate wants.
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.17 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mukiri Does it not strike anyone else as odd that the Amarr need to keep printing corrections and volumes of changes to Gods word.
I find it astonishing that you seem to expect that we Amarr should claim to know the mind of GOD himself.
While we are undoubtedly the people who understands most of GOD's ultimate purpose, it would be folly indeed to claim that we know his entire mind.
That is why we have thousands of scholars studying his will and thoughts. That is why we occasionally discover a tiny bit more of GOD's purpose for this universe.
You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem so full of yourself that you cannot believe that any man would admit to lack of knowledge of GOD's mind.
You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you are qualified to be a judge of wether your superiors, the Amarr, are true followers of GOD or not.
You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you have the knowledge of GOD's will necessary to pass such judgement.
You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you are the equal of GOD himself.
We Amarr has long since abandoned such hybris on behalf of the individual. We have realized that only through thousands of intellectuals spending millenia to study, may we even begin to comprehend GOD's motives.
You seem to believe that you posess such knowledge inherently.
You remind me of an insect claiming to understand the will of man.
Be silent, listen and learn. You do not know enough to let your voice be heard in the company of men.
Submission is not a sign of weakness, but a show of respect!
Q: How do you make a disobediant Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt. |

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.10.17 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 17/10/2008 19:02:20 Edited by: Andreus Ixiris on 17/10/2008 18:59:15
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus I find it astonishing that you seem to expect that we Amarr should claim to know the mind of GOD himself.
Well that's precisely what you're doing. You're stating that God has a plan for the Minmatar, and that it involves genocide, murder, torture, cruelty and the violation of the implicit and inalienable right of self-determination that is an inseperable property of every human being.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus While we are undoubtedly the people who understands most of GOD's ultimate purpose,
By what measure?
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus it would be folly indeed to claim that we know his entire mind.
Quite so.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus That is why we have thousands of scholars studying his will and thoughts.
Do they happen to have a specimen of GOD on hand? Is this empirical research, or unverifiable claims of divine inspiration and misinterpretation of scientific or historical fact until they verified your claims? There's an old story about a Deteis who desired respect from his comrades, and so took a gauss pistol and fired some shots into a wall, painted a target around them and claimed to be a sharpshooter. This story gave the name to the falacy of the Deteis Sharpshooter, where facts are reinterpreted until they support a specific statement.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus That is why we occasionally discover a tiny bit more of GOD's purpose for this universe.
Yet curiously, this supposedly infallible and unchanging being seems to change his mind an awful lot.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem so full of yourself that you cannot believe that any man would admit to lack of knowledge of GOD's mind.
You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you are qualified to be a judge of wether your superiors, the Amarr, are true followers of GOD or not.
No, he's asking you to provide proof that you are indeed their superiors and you are indeed true followers of "GOD". Given that this self-important belief has caused you to callously murder an entire tribe of their people for your own pride and enslave the rest of them, keeping almost one third of their number in captivity to this very day, it's fairly important to them, and they require more compelling evidence than an ancient book which you keep amending whenever it suits you.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you have the knowledge of GOD's will necessary to pass such judgement.
No, quite the opposite - he's saying that no-one does, least of all the Amarr.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus You, in the typical Minmatar way, seem to believe that you are the equal of GOD himself.
No, he is in fact stating that this is your issue - that you believe yourselves to be equal to "GOD", and somehow possessed of the right to impose your will upon others.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus We Amarr has long since abandoned such hybris on behalf of the individual. We have realized that only through thousands of intellectuals spending millenia to study, may we even begin to comprehend GOD's motives.
We'll await your millenia of study. In the meantime, please stop trying to kill and enslave us.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus You seem to believe that you posess such knowledge inherently.
You remind me of an insect claiming to understand the will of man.
Be silent, listen and learn. You do not know enough to let your voice be heard in the company of men.
Submission is not a sign of weakness, but a show of respect!
There is no honour or sense in giving respect to those who have not done anything to earn it. -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander |

Stunna Shade
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Posted - 2008.10.18 22:59:00 -
[87]
They call me MIKE JONES !
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Poreuomai
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.10.22 09:46:00 -
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Edited by: Poreuomai on 22/10/2008 09:50:47
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus It is a sad thing to see that even in your rebellion you still turn to your Amarrian betters for spiritual guidance.
Asking a question and thinking out loud are considered seeking 'spiritual guidance'? How odd.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus why don't you just take the step and come home?
Are you seeking my spiritual guidance? How about: Say no to drugs (like vitoc).
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Remeber that GOD's word is not a shopping mall. You can not buy some and leave some behind. Our guidance is not to be taken or rejected at your leisure. You either follow the law of GOD or you don't. There's no middle way.
You seem to mix God's word and your own guidance interchangeably.
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Leave your heathen ways behind and return to GOD.
Mend your own ways before seeking to help others.
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Johncrab
Minmatar XBeyond
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Posted - 2008.10.23 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Johncrab on 23/10/2008 17:26:03 Edit: These are older news than I expected, thus I remove my comment. |
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