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Ha'Uler	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:26:00 - [1] Edited by: Ha''Uler on 12/10/2008 19:26:13 http://eve-files.com/dl/175435 Those certifications appear in the decorations tab in the character info screen IF the player chooses to make them public. They're hidden by default. http://eve-files.com/dl/175436 Those medals will presumably appear in the decorations tab when given to members, but I'm not a CEO or director so I can't test that
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:29:00 - [2] O_O get away from the ship, get out slowly with your hands up and ignore everything you have seen My new blog here
Taedrin Gallente Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:36:00 - [3] Hull Tanking certification, lawl.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:43:00 - [4] This owns.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Gamer4liff This owns. Confirming this __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
flashfreaking LFC Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:45:00 - [6] OMG WANT Saint unlocked my sig!!! For this I will buy her unlimited amounts of Beer at FF! OH hai! Thanks!!!!! ~Saint
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:45:00 - [7] I will be making it my task to be the first to receive the Diplomatic Incident medal. And hull tanking?
framolia Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.12 19:47:00 - [8] Awesome! Want Now!!!! "My opinions are my own and not of my corp or alliance!"
Jinx Barker GFB Scientific	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:17:00 - [9] He he he I like it...
Thargat Caldari North Star Networks Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:21:00 - [10] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Gamer4liff This owns. Confirming this Awesome.... oh and since no-one has yet said it to CI in this thread....... FACE There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:23:00 - [11] i mentioned his face earlier.. is sig is pretty rad aswell you just made (or madeless) or pure win My new blog here ENN news
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Kirra Liu I will be making it my task to be the first to receive the Diplomatic Incident medal. And hull tanking? Judging by the screen, it looks like corps can create their own medals...if so, I'm totally awarding myself the "Made of Win and/or Awesome" badge __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Judging by the screen, it looks like corps can create their own medals...if so, I'm totally awarding myself the "Made of Win and/or Awesome" badge Give yourself a purple medal for loosing your face. An injury which has never healed and left you horribly disfigured. ;) - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Aloriana Jacques Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Judging by the screen, it looks like corps can create their own medals...if so, I'm totally awarding myself the "Made of Win and/or Awesome" badge Give yourself a purple medal for loosing your face. An injury which has never healed and left you horribly disfigured. ;) i support this service :) what did you travel in yoru pod ... ACID!!! My new blog here ENN news
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.12 20:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Armoured C what did you travel in yoru pod ... ACID!!! 1 - both these are great ideas 2 - "Yoru Pod ACID!" sounds like a japanese band name --
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Aloriana Jacques Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Judging by the screen, it looks like corps can create their own medals...if so, I'm totally awarding myself the "Made of Win and/or Awesome" badge Give yourself a purple medal for loosing your face. An injury which has never healed and left you horribly disfigured. ;) i support this service :) what did you travel in yoru pod ... ACID!!! Its Jovian Face-melting Disease, imhotbhbbq. Never fatal, supremely awesome __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Flamewave Crimson Moon Society	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Its Jovian Face-melting Disease, imhotbhbbq. Never fatal, supremely awesome Dude, this thread... ...is a good thread. I'm on sisi now looking at the certificates, this is pretty cool. Nice one, CCP. __________
Heraku Katsu Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:16:00 - [18] Epic fail im sorry to say. As if EVE didnt had enough problems to deal with. No... now CCP is wasting even more manpower on useless crap like this.
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:17:00 - [19] Do want.
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:18:00 - [20] It all seriousness, the certificates are a great idea. They show player accomplishments, give players something to aim for, and help newbies understand where skills fall into with a visual chart. It shows them where to start and what to aim for to be good at X. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Heraku Epic fail im sorry to say. As if EVE didnt had enough problems to deal with. No... now CCP is wasting even more manpower on useless crap like this. i know what medal your getting lighten up lag is being sortednanos are getting nerfed what more do you want !!! My new blog here ENN news
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Heraku Edited by: Heraku on 12/10/2008 21:20:02 Epic fail im sorry to say. As if EVE didnt had enough problems to deal with. No... now CCP is wasting even more manpower on useless eyecandy like this. You can have yourself a "Grumpy little git" medal. What is wrong with the medals, and does it really take lots of manpower to implement them, no. Your epic fail post is infact itself epic fail. Ktnx bai
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Flamewave Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Its Jovian Face-melting Disease, imhotbhbbq. Never fatal, supremely awesome Dude, this thread... ...is a good thread. I'm on sisi now looking at the certificates, this is pretty cool. Nice one, CCP. Post more pictures already, i don't want to have to recopy my eve directory =P __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:34:00 - [24] OMg, and people laughed at my achievements thread a while back Dey see me trollin, dey hatin, moddin they tryin to catch me postin dirty..
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:38:00 - [25] Edited by: Karanth on 12/10/2008 21:39:01 Do I see Elite Hull Tanking? HELLS YES EDIT: Is there an entry for Honor Tanking? --- Wheel of Whineage
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:39:00 - [26] Originally by: Neth'Rae OMg, and people laughed at my achievements thread a while back Sour grapes Achievement Unlocked! --
Brayiel The Double Cross	Posted - 2008.10.12 21:54:00 - [27] Quote: This certificate represents an elite level of competence in the infamous practice of "hull tanking". It certifies that the holder can fully use all modules relating to hull tanking. The holder is aware that "real men hull tank", and also that hull tanking is really dumb. With this certificate, you've maximised your ability to rely on your structural systems to absorb damage, although hopefully you're smart enough to know what a daft idea that is.
Armoured C Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:19:00 - [28] gosh damm it i am making another directory i will take a look any pics of any medal you want let me know and i will see what i can do running a public service must be hard those poor bus drivers My new blog here ENN news
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.12 22:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Armoured C gosh damm it i am making another directory i will take a look any pics of any medal you want let me know and i will see what i can do running a public service must be hard those poor bus drivers Already had a look - unfortunately apart from hull tanking there isn't much hilarity, although there is some wise eve-wisdom to be found for newbies __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:15:00 - [30] Edited by: Akita T on 12/10/2008 23:18:26 Pre-emptive "OMG SiSi bugged" reply : look here. (hey, I had to look there too, but at least I looked) P.S. Also, this : "Dear players, the servers are down for one hour each day for maintenance and updates. The daily downtime will begin in 45 minutes at 00:01 GMT. The servers will be back up again one hour later. Please make sure your characters are out of harms way before the servers close." _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:50:00 - [31] Edited by: Cailais on 12/10/2008 23:53:09 Had a quick try with the medal system. Made a spangly medal with all the bits - cost to produce was 25mil. I then awarded this medal to myself (obviously) and this cost a further 1mil ISK. edit - rather nicely this is messaged to you from your corp. C. Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
Jason Edwards	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:52:00 - [32] more useless features? What purpose or function could this serve? and issued by concord? What a joke. All concord does is **** on people parades. I'm best friends with concord. 5.02 standing and someone with -10 standing with them can bribe concord to wardec me. Or pirates who want to kill someone... get killed by concord. All concord does is not cool. Now they come out with something that isnt utterly crap and it's worthless. HAHA ------------------------ "There was this bright flash of light - and now this egg shaped thing is on my screen - did I level up?"
Cailais Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.10.12 23:59:00 - [33] Originally by: Jason Edwards more useless features? What purpose or function could this serve? Well it allows players to fine tune their focus on a specific skill set (for certs) and allow corp CEO to review who has what skill sets (handy). The medals are a bit of fluff sure - but morale wise you can now reward your corp pilots. Seeing as medals cost to make, and hand on to a player they have a intrinsic value I guess. I quite like it. C. Originally by: Tarminic Your continued whining is somewhat diminished by your continued willingness to give your money to CCP.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.10.13 00:16:00 - [34] Some "blank" certificates (elite starter professions, elite leadership, etc), a couple of certificates that make little or next to no sense, missing certificate levels... looks like there's a LOT of work still needed there. _ Alternate resist display \|\| Mission reward revamp \|\| better nanofix
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 00:22:00 - [35] I'm not too sure about the value of player created medals, etc. At their best I think they're just fluff though I can think of a few places where they'll be seriously considered & used - so that'll be good. I do like the NPC (e.g. CONCORD) issued certificates. Again, fluff - but they add some nice, extra depth to the game which isn't a bad thing at all. I also like the Hull Tanking example
Maglorre	Posted - 2008.10.13 00:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Ha'Uler http://eve-files.com/dl/175436 Those medals will presumably appear in the decorations tab when given to members, but I'm not a CEO or director so I can't test that Needs to be a medal with an image of a wooden spoon for this type of decoration Also, I'm definitely going to make a "Womble" certificate if we can give them names(?) or a Womble Medal
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 01:03:00 - [37] Edited by: Neth''Rae on 13/10/2008 01:04:13 Woha, the UI for managing and viewing certificates is horribly akward. This will seriously confuse new players, it might even be misstaken for somekind of leveling/skill selecting system. It even confused me a bit, and mostly it's just too much.. Some skillpackages where you don't have any of the skills shouldn't even be visible imo. Seriously, the entire structure of it is just too much, and all these new names for each package.. I think this means EVEs learningcurve just went backwards a little bit. There shouldn't be a different section for every level (basic, standard, improved, elite) instead, you should right-click on the basic and just select "level it up to standard/improved/elite". That would reduce the amount of categories and tabs by 500% :P Dey see me trollin, dey hatin, moddin they tryin to catch me postin dirty..
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.10.13 01:36:00 - [38] diplomatic incident is totally an idle medal and definitaly going for the hull tanking certificate
Berious Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.13 01:49:00 - [39] Edited by: Berious on 13/10/2008 01:49:41 I predict an epidemic of blue-on-blue violence
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.10.13 01:52:00 - [40] Does one of those images actually show a "decorations" tab on a character Show Info that lets you see their certs? Does that not imply you can deduce just from a show info pretty much what they fly and if they're any good or not? Bit much info for hostiles surely? _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.13 02:12:00 - [41] I would like to officially place my seal of ½WIN+ on this thread. Originally by: Dheorl Originally by: Akita T yawn I never knew it was possible to stretch your ego THAT much in 1 post
Kirra Liu Gemini Industries Inc	Posted - 2008.10.13 03:02:00 - [42] Don't know if it's been said already but just checked and so far on the test server it costs 25 mill to make a medal, and then 1 mill every time you hand one out to a member. A member can receive the medal a number of times also.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2008.10.13 03:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Lance Fighter I would like to officially place my seal of ½WIN+ on this thread. I would like to give a ½WIN+ Medal to this thread.
Flamewave Crimson Moon Society	Posted - 2008.10.13 03:34:00 - [44] Originally by: El Yatta Does one of those images actually show a "decorations" tab on a character Show Info that lets you see their certs? Does that not imply you can deduce just from a show info pretty much what they fly and if they're any good or not? Bit much info for hostiles surely? You can select what decorations, if any, you wish to display. __________
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2008.10.13 04:26:00 - [45] It looks like a lot of work went into this, but I don't see the value of these features. They don't do anything.
Sidrat Flush Caldari Diversity 101	Posted - 2008.10.13 04:51:00 - [46] Great idea, and yes still lots of work needs doing. It would help recruiters out a great deal when it's finally implemented and can be turned on and off, or just given access to ALLOWED characters/corps/alliances. Of course hopefully you can chose which to reveal or hide. I mean what Miner out there wants everyone to know he can also fly stealth bombers and create cyno fields? Life is about memories the more the better.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2008.10.13 04:54:00 - [47] All of my newb corp pilots shall be granted the P0RN Star In Training Certificate. And after 3 months of their filming loyalty, they shall receive the P0RN Star Full Erectile Status Certificate. Members who show great initiative shall receive the Foreplay Award, All The Way Award, or the hard to get B4lls Deep Award.
HankMurphy Minmatar Pelennor Enterprises	Posted - 2008.10.13 04:57:00 - [48] at first i didn't 'get' it. then i realized there wasn't anything to 'get' still, kinda cool i guess whatever ok sure ------------------------------ everybody be cool this is a threadjack! just lay face down on the ground and no one will get hurt!
Brigsby5987 Caldari 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2008.10.13 05:29:00 - [49] Originally by: Heraku Edited by: Heraku on 12/10/2008 21:20:02 Epic fail im sorry to say. As if EVE didnt had enough problems to deal with. No... now CCP is wasting even more manpower on useless eyecandy like this. Troll post. You know that CCP is more then capable of working on and fixing lag as new technology and more manpower/money allows. The problem is, CCP cant control your shitty internet connection, on your shitty computer, running on a terribly configured operating system. No matter how good CCP makes the servers, and reduces lag, if you don't know anything about computers, and think you just plug it in and go, you will lag. period. TL;DR- Dont complain unless you understand what your talking about. Unless you have a formal education, or you work in IT, you don't know what your talking about. If I can run eve lag free on a 2 year old computer, with internet that is in the lower 20th percentile of the United States for speed, then I am sure that if you have the know how and better circumstances you can achieve the same results. If you don't have the know how... learn. Christ the people that *** about lag constantly me off... 99% of them either don't know what they are talking about, or they are just completely ignorant. And don't *** about node lag either. You keep adding people until it inevitably lags for some of you or a node crash happens. If you expect crap like that not to happen, don't kid yourself. Thats not CCP's fault. _______________________________________ Sig? where. There's no sig here.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.10.13 05:35:00 - [50] Funny certificates are awesome....sadly hull tanking cert is basically the only funny one I saw. The rest of the certs are fairly standard and I am guessing they are supposed to help new players train properly for their ships. Except I can see new players training useless skills like it wants you to train Multitasking as part of Core Competency skills. But no one trains multitasking, dumb skill. Ditto for controlled bursts, the certs want me to train it to level 3, but I am minmatar. That is stupid for me to train. So instead of being Turret control Elite 5/5, I am turret control basic 1/5 solely because of controlled bursts. So certs are pretty much useless fluff. My suggestion: Make all the certs into funny jokes. Maybe give people a small LP award for certs? Sekret rifter with 8 lows? I'm not a CEO so I cannot test the custom medals system but it sounds pretty fun. Useless fluff all the same, but hey it is the INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION, so if you don't like it, feel free to blow up every miner and manufacturing POS out there. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2008.10.13 05:53:00 - [51] They don't mess with game "balance" (Sorry, cannot say that with straight face) .. they are just for "fluff" or "reputation-grind" and the biggest role is ISK-sink. "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:12:00 - [52] Originally by: DigitalCommunist It looks like a lot of work went into this, but I don't see the value of these features. They don't do anything. The decorations are fluff, true The certificates are definitely helpful for new players - they not only provide a decent training path for new players right out of the tutorial, they offer recommendations on skills required for basic ship operation, basic tips on module and skill usage, training paths to specialize in certain module operations, blah dee blah. And, really, they might've taken some work to put in, but I'm betting it was no more than the advanced tutorials and mission lines added for new players. __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:14:00 - [53] I like it! And CCP thanks for the big laugh I had reading that 'elite hull' description Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea???
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:20:00 - [54] Originally by: Kuolematon They don't mess with game "balance" (Sorry, cannot say that with straight face) .. they are just for "fluff" or "reputation-grind" and the biggest role is ISK-sink. What __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
WeightedCompanionCube Aperture Science Enrichment Center	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Originally by: Kuolematon They don't mess with game "balance" (Sorry, cannot say that with straight face) .. they are just for "fluff" or "reputation-grind" and the biggest role is ISK-sink. What Creating a medal costs money: Quote: Your wallet contains only 15,000,000.00 ISK you require 25,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 06:55:00 - [56] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 06:55:30 Originally by: WeightedCompanionCube Quote: Your wallet contains only 15,000,000.00 ISK you require 25,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. Unless it ramps up with each additional medal, I'm not really worried - 25m is chump change. And even if it does, it's a fluff thing anyhow, so who cares? __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Guilliman R Gallente PRO Space Hunters HUNTER'S BROTHERHOOD	Posted - 2008.10.13 07:21:00 - [57] This is really nice :o Cheer for CCP! :D ---sig---
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.10.13 07:46:00 - [58] Oh, I see much fun in the future with this. I know less than you think I do. Gemini Sun is Recruiting
Karma Eve University	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:06:00 - [59] must all games have achievements now? XBOX LIVE! WHAT HAVE YOU STARTED! but anyway, this could be really good for corps and alliances. and... the diplomatic incident? .. 'successfully killed the CEO of a friendly corporation." successfully killed? how can you unsuccessfully kill someone? either they're dead and you succeeded, or they're alive and you failed. it's binary.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:09:00 - [60] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 09:09:23 Originally by: Karma must all games have achievements now? XBOX LIVE! WHAT HAVE YOU STARTED! but anyway, this could be really good for corps and alliances. and... the diplomatic incident? .. 'successfully killed the CEO of a friendly corporation." successfully killed? how can you unsuccessfully kill someone? either they're dead and you succeeded, or they're alive and you failed. it's binary. Oh, nevermind __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:17:00 - [61] Originally by: Karma must all games have achievements now? XBOX LIVE! WHAT HAVE YOU STARTED! but anyway, this could be really good for corps and alliances. and... the diplomatic incident? .. 'successfully killed the CEO of a friendly corporation." successfully killed? how can you unsuccessfully kill someone? either they're dead and you succeeded, or they're alive and you failed. it's binary. You can try and fail or you can try and succeed. ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:18:00 - [62] Originally by: Karma and... the diplomatic incident? .. 'successfully killed the CEO of a friendly corporation." successfully killed? how can you unsuccessfully kill someone? either they're dead and you succeeded, or they're alive and you failed. it's binary. It's a player-created medal. This is NOT in any way like achievements. Whoever (the CEO? can anyone else?) has the power to award you the medal gets to decide if you deserve it or not, CCP has nothing to do with setting the conditions for getting it.
Derdre Esme	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:20:00 - [63] About medals i have questions : - does it will be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^) -does it will be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corpo level -if alliance / corpo dismiss does the medals remains ? -will it be possible to throw out medals afterward to avoid that
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Derdre Esme About medals i have questions : - does it will be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^) -does it will be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corpo level -if alliance / corpo dismiss does the medals remains ? -will it be possible to throw out medals afterward to avoid that You can delete and remove medals you don't want, as well as hide any medals you have from public viewing (they're hidden by default) Also, each medal awarded costs a million isk, so its not like you can be spammed to death with terrible medals without it costing some money You can only give medals to your corporationmates from what I've seen but I don't have alliance-level permissions __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?

CCP Chronotis	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:39:00 - [65] *will it be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^)* when you are awarded a medal, it is set to private by default (meaning only you can see it) and you have the option to trash it if you want or make it public if you want to show it off. *will it be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corp level* for corps for now, the intention is for medals to be a corp tool but in the future we may look at extending their use to the alliance level. *if alliance / corp dismiss does the medals remains ?* yes, medals you have been previously awarded stay with you regardless of changing corps. *will it be possible to throw out medals afterward to avoid that* see first answer (yes you can) a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon.

Maria Kalista	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:39:00 - [66] Hmmm, time to join a corp otherwise no shiny medals.... nice move CCP! (Trying to get the masses out of NPC corps) Originally by: CCP Mitnal You put a bear in your tea???
Karma Eve University	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:40:00 - [67] with medals costing 1m each... you know if someone has a medal (be it 'ultimate *****' or 'made of pure win' you know they either deserved it or, in the latter case, is the CEO) .. as for the certifications, as stated, they're good for new pilots to get a handle on what skills they need to aim for... but also, for instance if you want to limit the pilots who get to fly carriers/motherships/etc. in fleet ops to those with only a set number of skills at a specific level, you can now make a certification called 'ship* class fleet certification'... and that's it.. gives an easily overview for CEOs and fleet commanders to see what their pilots are capable of. and hey... if you're flying ship A, and someone with a mind to attack you checks your info and sees you've got ELITE class certifications for everything about that ship, he or she might reconsider. shrugs just a few thoughts.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:43:00 - [68] Originally by: CCP Chronotis *will it be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^)* when you are awarded a medal, it is set to private by default (meaning only you can see it) and you have the option to trash it if you want or make it public if you want to show it off. *will it be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corp level* for corps for now, the intention is for medals to be a corp tool but in the future we may look at extending their use to the alliance level. *if alliance / corp dismiss does the medals remains ?* yes, medals you have been previously awarded stay with you regardless of changing corps. *will it be possible to throw out medals afterward to avoid that* see first answer (yes you can) a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. Chronotis stole my thunder __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
MuffinsRevenger EmpiresMod	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:54:00 - [69] Shiny, i liek!
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.13 09:57:00 - [70] Originally by: CCP Chronotis *will it be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corp level* for corps for now, the intention is for medals to be a corp tool but in the future we may look at extending their use to the alliance level. How about just making it unrestricted? If I'm impressed by someone from another corp/alliance, why shouldn't I be able to give them the Merin Ryskin Awesomeness Award? It's not like anyone would bother abusing the system, it would be kind of pointless to pay a million ISK to give someone an "EVE's Biggest Noob" medal that would never be public, and just get trashed as soon as they saw it.
sg3s Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:24:00 - [71] Originally by: CCP Chronotis a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. We all know CCPs SoonÖ. Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
Falaricae	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:26:00 - [72] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: CCP Chronotis *will it be possible to have medals at alliance level or only at corp level* for corps for now, the intention is for medals to be a corp tool but in the future we may look at extending their use to the alliance level. How about just making it unrestricted? If I'm impressed by someone from another corp/alliance, why shouldn't I be able to give them the Merin Ryskin Awesomeness Award? It's not like anyone would bother abusing the system, it would be kind of pointless to pay a million ISK to give someone an "EVE's Biggest Noob" medal that would never be public, and just get trashed as soon as they saw it. This seems like a nice idea. It would be a nice isk sink and a fun but costly way to express your oppinion about someone you hate or like. You can abuse it, but medals like "I'm going to kill you IRL" or other abuse are covered by the current rules and as said you can just thrash it. -insert name- seal of approval or similar medals could even have value(not isk) and use in game.
sg3s Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:34:00 - [73] I'll take a 'Noob of the year' award and show it to the public!! Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:36:00 - [74] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 10:38:34 Originally by: sg3s I'll take a 'Noob of the year' award and show it to the public!! You already have that, its your alliance Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Complete Tart Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:40:00 - [75] Originally by: CCP Chronotis a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. Yeah we'll be taking that with a truckload of salt
royal killer Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2008.10.13 10:49:00 - [76] Edited by: royal killer on 13/10/2008 10:49:16 Originally by: CCP Chronotis ...... will it be possible to throw out medals afterward to avoid that see first answer (yes you can) ...... I'd be awesome to be like that in ambulation, best way to show off when you walk into the bars Edit: This is a neat tool tho -------------------- ding ding! Wrangler: Hello and w ding ding! Wrangler: ...damn nanowhiners.
Jimer Lins Gallente Noir. Trinity Nova Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:02:00 - [77] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 10:38:34 Originally by: sg3s I'll take a 'Noob of the year' award and show it to the public!! You already have that, its your alliance Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Oh snap! :D Corp and Personal killboard
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:23:00 - [78] heheh best new thing reward! great work ccp www.garia.net
sg3s Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:24:00 - [79] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 10:38:34 Originally by: sg3s I'll take a 'Noob of the year' award and show it to the public!! You already have that, its your alliance Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Well done turning this into a mud fight, do you want this topic to exist or be closed, because from now this can go either way. Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:26:00 - [80] Originally by: Karma with medals costing 1m each... you know if someone has a medal (be it 'ultimate ****' or 'made of pure win' you know they either deserved it or, in the latter case, is the CEO) ... What? 1m is the ultimate in pocket change, if someone has a medal you know that the corp's directors were bored for ten minutes. If 1m is a lot of money and a deterrant to you, you need to be better at the game. Originally by:** Karma and hey... if you're flying ship A, and someone with a mind to attack you checks your info and sees you've got ELITE class certifications for everything about that ship, he or she might reconsider.. On what level is that possibly a good idea? Hey enemy, have free intel, so you can bring racial jammers to my best ships, or avoid fighting me all together! _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
murder one Gallente Invincible Reason	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:32:00 - [81] Originally by: sg3s Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 10:38:34 Originally by: sg3s I'll take a 'Noob of the year' award and show it to the public!! You already have that, its your alliance Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh Well done turning this into a mud fight, do you want this topic to exist or be closed, because from now this can go either way. It can't go either way. You've been owned so hard by Chaos (who has no face, no less) that it is impossible for you to recover any dignity that you may have allegedly had at some point in the past. ^5s Chaos btw. [07:13:55] doctorstupid2 > what do i train now? [07:14:05] Trista Rotnor > little boys to 2 Fleet Combat Ships
Fennicus Amarr Shoot To Thrill	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:36:00 - [82] Edited by: Fennicus on 13/10/2008 11:37:11 I like it. "Medal For Surviving The Great Battle What We Had The Other Day" and various other combat-awarded things would be awesome. The inevitable "MONKEY COMMANDER" medals et. al. will sadly drag it down, though. Not that that means I won't be awarding that to myself. :) I guess if you prevent players from awarding themselves medals then it could work out overall.
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:39:00 - [83] Shit, my CEO will have a field day when he gets drunk. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Mikal Drey Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:42:00 - [84] Your wallet contains only 12,427,893.00 ISK you require 25,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation. ISK SINK ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !! Soooo creating a medal costs 25mil :/
Neth'Rae Gallente Decorum Inc Tygris Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:45:00 - [85] I wish corp logotypes would be updated in both quality and resolution to the same level as the new medals. Dey see me trollin, dey hatin, moddin they tryin to catch me postin dirty..
Shaun Livingstone iMine Industries	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:48:00 - [86] Edited by: Shaun Livingstone on 13/10/2008 11:56:48 It's another tool to our sandbox. If people want to give each other medals of monkeyness and ***** largesses then so be it. If people want to behave like that then I guess they're allowed to. I for one welcome the arrival of our shiny fluffy overlords. Also hope that medals will be showable on people's uniforms/clothes once WiS hits TQ. (edit: **** is censored? really? It's a medical term! )* --
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 11:49:00 - [87] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 11:50:52 Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 13/10/2008 11:49:26 Originally by: murder one Originally by: sg3s Well done turning this into a mud fight, do you want this topic to exist or be closed, because from now this can go either way. It can't go either way. You've been owned so hard by Chaos (who has no face, no less) that it is impossible for you to recover any dignity that you may have allegedly had at some point in the past. ^5s Chaos btw. I lol'd hard IRL - touche, sir. Touche. __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
Derdre Esme	Posted - 2008.10.13 12:16:00 - [88] Edited by: Derdre Esme on 13/10/2008 12:26:17 THanks Chaos Incarnate and Chronotis for answers i have 2 other : -will it be possible to buy / sell medals and i bet if it will be possible, it will be only as 'collectible' ? -can a corpo remove the right to own some medals if afterward the owner behave badly or even worst, turn to be a corpo thief / spy ?
Karma Eve University	Posted - 2008.10.13 12:43:00 - [89] Originally by: El Yatta On what level is that possibly a good idea? Hey enemy, have free intel, so you can bring racial jammers to my best ships, or avoid fighting me all together! ... showing your cards to your opponent isn't always a bad idea, if you're holding a royal flush. besides.. racial hammers? for people who are actively hunting you this would be a problem I suppose... but if you're just running into someone by accident and they're in a mood to attack you, then it could act as a deterrent. then again, you'll be completely free to not display your certifications, so what are you complaining about?
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2008.10.13 12:54:00 - [90] Originally by: Karma besides.. racial hammers? for people who are actively hunting you this would be a problem I suppose... but if you're just running into someone by accident and they're in a mood to attack you, then it could act as a deterrent. then again, you'll be completely free to not display your certifications, so what are you complaining about? I was wondering where the post you responded to was because I was going to reply and destroy it, but I see you did a wonderful job of it already I'd also point out that there aren't really any ship-specific certificates (Ie, there's no uber-raven-pilot cert), so its not like even if they were visible that they could say "Hey, he's going to be in a cerberus with <insert mods here>". Instead, they can just guess based on your displayed certificates - and if people do try to predict your ships you can fake them out by displaying minmatar spec'd certs and flying a Falcon or something. This is not difficult. __________ Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail?
El Yatta Mercenary Forces	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:01:00 - [91] Originally by: Karma Originally by: El Yatta On what level is that possibly a good idea? Hey enemy, have free intel, so you can bring racial jammers to my best ships, or avoid fighting me all together! ... showing your cards to your opponent isn't always a bad idea, if you're holding a royal flush. besides.. racial hammers? for people who are actively hunting you this would be a problem I suppose... but if you're just running into someone by accident and they're in a mood to attack you, then it could act as a deterrent. then again, you'll be completely free to not display your certifications, so what are you complaining about? The only time you should be showing your cards to your opponent is at the end of the hand: ie. the only time you should learn I am maxed out on blasters is when 1300 DPS are eating through your hull. Anyone who is displaying their certs will be automatically considered a complete fool. You also missed the point: why is a "deterrant" a good idea? That promotes less combat, not more. _______________________________________________ Mercenary Forces
CrayC Gallente CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:13:00 - [92] Originally by: El Yatta The only time you should be showing your cards to your opponent is at the end of the hand: ie. the only time you should learn I am maxed out on blasters is when 1300 DPS are eating through your hull. If you're only specced for one thing, then yes, it's free intel. But if you, like me, can fly all 4 races and have trained all weapon systems, it's impossible to tell what I can do to you, until you find out what I am flying. I may be Gallente specced and love my Domi, but I'm not bad in a Scorp, Geddon or Phoon either
Max Teranous Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:15:00 - [93] Will those of us with alliance tournament medals be able to add them into the new medal system? Max
whisk Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:20:00 - [94] waste of memory on my HD Adapt or Die
Tyr Vaantau Amarr Synthetic Frontiers	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:37:00 - [95] I'm glad the Medals cost 25mill to create. It stops excessive medal-spam, unless you're in Goonswarm or something. ------
Kelron Queldine Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:43:00 - [96] Originally by: CCP Chronotis *will it be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^)* when you are awarded a medal, it is set to private by default (meaning only you can see it) and you have the option to trash it if you want or make it public if you want to show it off. Presumably the certificates will have public/private settings too? I don't really want people to be able to see my skills before fighting me, they'd only run away.
Eran Laude Gallente The Aduro Protocol	Posted - 2008.10.13 13:49:00 - [97] Originally by: Kelron Queldine Originally by: CCP Chronotis *will it be possible to refuse medals (to avoid being griefed with medals like "medals for being a tard" or "medal of the greatest noob of jita" or such ^^)* when you are awarded a medal, it is set to private by default (meaning only you can see it) and you have the option to trash it if you want or make it public if you want to show it off. Presumably the certificates will have public/private settings too? I don't really want people to be able to see my skills before fighting me, they'd only run away. They do, was just playing around with them on Sisi.
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:02:00 - [98] Originally by: DigitalCommunist It looks like a lot of work went into this, but I don't see the value of these features. They don't do anything. sure they do ... nubs will change from what skills I need to fly a Raven to what certificates I need to fly Raven ? and I will make public any non-combat certificates just to have people to look at something :-) --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:04:00 - [99] This looks nice :) Meci Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Ms Massacre	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:09:00 - [100] Originally by: Flamewave Edited by: Flamewave on 12/10/2008 22:22:47 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Post more pictures already, i don't want to have to recopy my eve directory =P Here's a really, really big image with the full list of certificates as well as a sampling of certificate details. Warning, 2mb jpg. http://eve-files.com/dl/175449 edit: Show Info screen with the decorations tab. http://eve-files.com/dl/175451 woah woah woah woah woah... After looking at the navigation part it says it is relative to two HACs. If this is so, then what two? if they mean the vaga (fair enough) but the muninn (lol?) well idk... The vaga for sure, but who is the 2??
DrAtomic Atomic Heroes	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:20:00 - [101] Originally by: Ha'Uler Edited by: Ha''Uler on 12/10/2008 19:26:13 http://eve-files.com/dl/175435 Those certifications appear in the decorations tab in the character info screen IF the player chooses to make them public. They're hidden by default. Wahaha, they are awesome, i love the text! - - - Originally by: CCP Wrangler If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:21:00 - [102] Originally by: Ms Massacre Originally by: Flamewave Edited by: Flamewave on 12/10/2008 22:22:47 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Post more pictures already, i don't want to have to recopy my eve directory =P Here's a really, really big image with the full list of certificates as well as a sampling of certificate details. Warning, 2mb jpg. http://eve-files.com/dl/175449 edit: Show Info screen with the decorations tab. http://eve-files.com/dl/175451 woah woah woah woah woah... After looking at the navigation part it says it is relative to two HACs. If this is so, then what two? if they mean the vaga (fair enough) but the muninn (lol?) well idk... The vaga for sure, but who is the 2?? I believe that would be the Deimos (And by "believe" I mean "I happen to have the spreadsheet open in front of me and I just double-checked")

CrayC Gallente CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:26:00 - [103] Originally by: CCP Greyscale (And by "believe" I mean "I happen to have the spreadsheet open in front of me and I just double-checked") If you're gonna pwn someone, this is the way to do it
Ms Massacre	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:26:00 - [104] Edited by: Ms Massacre on 13/10/2008 14:28:01 Originally by: CCP Greyscale Originally by: Ms Massacre woah woah woah woah woah... After looking at the navigation part it says it is relative to two HACs. If this is so, then what two? if they mean the vaga (fair enough) but the muninn (lol?) well idk... The vaga for sure, but who is the 2?? I believe that would be the Deimos (And by "believe" I mean "I happen to have the spreadsheet open in front of me and I just double-checked") Ah, that would make sense. Ty greyscale =) And to CI: about orienting "new players" on important early skills, i would have to agree, as my friend has been trying to pvp in a raven for 3 months without knowing what shield management did edit: You guys are mean.
Ishamel 1 Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:29:00 - [105] Kudos to ccp, this is a pointless excercise, but is brilliant anyway.
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:33:00 - [106] I want a medal that says Im "Fuc/king awesome". If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
knifee Caldari eXceed Inc. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:40:00 - [107] Will the medal images be exportable?
Derdre Esme	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:45:00 - [108] Originally by: Derdre Esme i have 2 other : -will it be possible to buy / sell medals and i bet if it will be possible, it will be only as 'collectible' ? -can a corpo remove the right to own some medals if afterward the owner behave badly or even worst, turn to be a corpo thief / spy ? me want answer to my 2 questions
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.13 14:54:00 - [109] Edited by: Dianeces on 13/10/2008 14:54:58 Originally by: Vaal Erit Except I can see new players training useless skills like it wants you to train Multitasking as part of Core Competency skills. But no one trains multitasking, dumb skill. Look how dumb you are. Edit: Constructive comments so my brosefs the forum mods don't ban me again ~~~~~~o7o7o7o7 Look at the max number of lockable targets for Logistics and Carriers. Then come back and tell me it's useless.

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2008.10.13 15:50:00 - [110] Originally by: sg3s Originally by: CCP Chronotis a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. We all know CCPs SoonÖ. http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=591

Mithfindel Gallente Gariushi Foundation	Posted - 2008.10.13 15:59:00 - [111] So, no trademark given, it actually is soon.
Solomunio Kzenig Amarr VITOC	Posted - 2008.10.13 16:12:00 - [112] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Originally by: sg3s Originally by: CCP Chronotis a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. We all know CCPs SoonÖ. http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=591 Yay for CCP now how about the same for the new medals system, oh I can forsee great fun with that......
CommmanderInChief Comply Or Die	Posted - 2008.10.13 16:18:00 - [113] nice to see CCP developing something that really important
Karma Eve University	Posted - 2008.10.13 17:37:00 - [114] I'll quote your stuff out of order here, Originally by: El Yatta You also missed the point: why is a "deterrant" a good idea? That promotes less combat, not more. for some less pvp-combat is desirable. Ever considered that? if a suicide-ganker in high-sec sees my tanking skills being labeled as 'elite', and I'm flying a ship known to be very good at just tanking... if that gives him pause, then that's saved me a few minutes of fighting I didn't want to endure. Originally by: El Yatta The only time you should be showing your cards to your opponent is at the end of the hand. well, there are two ways about everything, I suppose. your way has merit, personally I consider it a bit guileful. if you know you will win, there's no need to play games or psyche your opponent... no need to hide your strength. then all you need is a disclaimer saying 'attack at your own peril'.
Vina Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:11:00 - [115] why are there no spaceship command certs? I want people to know I have black ops 5! ----------------------------------- my opinion is my own.
Vina Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:24:00 - [116] Edited by: Vina on 13/10/2008 18:24:35 I like how ecm elite requires multitasking level 5 when there isn't even any ships that can target that many targets, and widow can only target 7 anyway. (increase this too when you fix black ops!) ----------------------------------- my opinion is my own.
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:34:00 - [117] Originally by: CCP Greyscale http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=591 I'm actually a little worried that this might make things seem more complicated to new players rather than less complicated. I was wondering, would it be possible to make certificates almost like a group of skillbooks? As in, you'd start training the certificate and it would train the skills in its list in order until they reach the levels in it? That would allow limited and very controlled skill queues. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Vina Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:44:00 - [118] also you guys messed up on elite shield reinforcement.. it doesn't require thermal compensation. ----------------------------------- my opinion is my own.
Last Wolf Umbra Wing	Posted - 2008.10.13 18:44:00 - [119] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: CCP Greyscale http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=591 I'm actually a little worried that this might make things seem more complicated to new players rather than less complicated. I was wondering, would it be possible to make certificates almost like a group of skillbooks? As in, you'd start training the certificate and it would train the skills in its list in order until they reach the levels in it? That would allow limited and very controlled skill queues. This is what I was hoping for when I first read about them. 5 Million isk it doesn't happen though =( __________________________________________________________ Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.13 19:43:00 - [120] Originally by: Last Wolf I was wondering, would it be possible to make certificates almost like a group of skillbooks? As in, you'd start training the certificate and it would train the skills in its list in order until they reach the levels in it? That would allow limited and very controlled skill queues. This is what I was hoping for when I first read about them. 5 Million isk it doesn't happen though =( # Certificates don't allow you to set skill queues or any similar functionality from dev blog --
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2008.10.13 19:58:00 - [121] Edited by: Pottsey on 13/10/2008 20:04:39 Vina said "I like how ecm elite requires multitasking level 5 when there isn't even any ships that can target that many targets, and widow can only target 7 anyway." There are modules that give you extra target locks. It's pretty easy to get over 10 locks. I really like the certification idea but the current ones are flawed. The drone ones are crazy. It's wrong to need active shield tanking before you can get passive. A skill that most passive tankers avoid at lvl 5 is needed for the Elite passive tanking certification which is wrong. The gun ones are not much better. Lots of them are just flawed. Some of the skills elite passive tankers use are not even in the Elite certification. But I guess its not finished and still being worked on. It's a good idea that needs a little more tweaking. EDIT: I number of areas I consider myself Elite in like Drones as I cannot get any more damage out of it and there are no more useful skills to train, yet Certifications show me as a standard drone pilot. Reading the Dev blog I see this is only the first pass. Hopefully stuff like this gets fixed. ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Vina Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.13 20:18:00 - [122] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 13/10/2008 20:04:39 Vina said "I like how ecm elite requires multitasking level 5 when there isn't even any ships that can target that many targets, and widow can only target 7 anyway." There are modules that give you extra target locks. It's pretty easy to get over 10 locks. I really like the certification idea but the current ones are flawed. The drone ones are crazy. It's wrong to need active shield tanking before you can get passive. A skill that most passive tankers avoid at lvl 5 is needed for the Elite passive tanking certification which is wrong. The gun ones are not much better. Lots of them are just flawed. Some of the skills elite passive tankers use are not even in the Elite certification. But I guess its not finished and still being worked on. It's a good idea that needs a little more tweaking. EDIT: I number of areas I consider myself Elite in like Drones as I cannot get any more damage out of it and there are no more useful skills to train, yet Certifications show me as a standard drone pilot. Reading the Dev blog I see this is only the first pass. Hopefully stuff like this gets fixed. Those modules are a stupid waste of highslots, combined with the fact they auto-target EVERYTHING in range... worthless module. ECM ships should be able to lock the max targets you can anyway. ----------------------------------- my opinion is my own.
Erbo Evans Gallente Ralpha Dogs Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.14 04:44:00 - [123] I like the certificate and medal ideas, I'm just afraid that, after Lexx gets done awarding me all the medals she'd like to give me, I'm gonna look like some sort of South American tinpot dictator. -- Erbo Evans, Abbot of Ralpha Dogs Inc. (Rho Alpha Delta) "Libera te tutemet ex inferes" "Kick ass. Just don't miss."
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2008.10.14 05:35:00 - [124] Fantastic stuff.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2008.10.14 06:39:00 - [125] Vina said "Those modules are a stupid waste of highslots, combined with the fact they auto-target EVERYTHING in range... worthless module. ECM ships should be able to lock the max targets you can anyway." I don't think they are a waste. They don't lock everything that was fixed ages ago. Anyway I dont use them to auto lock things, I use them for extra locks. What about Signal Amplifier II? They boost target locks, scan res and scan range. http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/electronicsandsensorupgrades/signalamplifiers/1987.asp ____ Telltale sign of their presence is non-linear teleportation (www.eve-online.com/races/theodicy/Theodicy_All.pdf)
Derdre Esme	Posted - 2008.10.14 13:00:00 - [126] about medals -will it be possible to buy / sell medals and i bet if it will be possible, it will be only as 'collectible' ? -can a corpo remove the right to own some medals if afterward the owner behave badly or even worst, turn to be a corpo thief / spy ?
Grarr Dexx Amarr The Cosa Nostra La Cosa Nostra Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.14 14:55:00 - [127] Originally by: Derdre Esme about medals -will it be possible to buy / sell medals and i bet if it will be possible, it will be only as 'collectible' ? -can a corpo remove the right to own some medals if afterward the owner behave badly or even worst, turn to be a corpo thief / spy ? It will most likely be solely in-corporation, and not tradeable, just a tag in your character sheet or in the corporation UI. They most likely will, this is to prevent turncoats from keeping their medals and boosting 'credibility'.
Taius Pax	Posted - 2008.10.14 15:07:00 - [128] With every patch, the sandbox becomes more and more astroturfed.
sg3s Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.14 20:09:00 - [129] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Originally by: sg3s Originally by: CCP Chronotis a blog is forthcoming on certificates and should be out soon. We all know CCPs SoonÖ. http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=591 The exception that proves the rule. Originally by: Tarminic Because even when EVE sucks, it sucks less than every other MMO out there.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.14 20:54:00 - [130] Originally by: Nyphur I was wondering, would it be possible to make certificates almost like a group of skillbooks? As in, you'd start training the certificate and it would train the skills in its list in order until they reach the levels in it? That would allow limited and very controlled skill queues. Originally by: CCP Greyscale The What Not A few things that certificates don't do, just to clear up a few possible misconceptions: Certificates don't allow you to set skill queues or any similar functionality did you even read it? --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.10.15 21:47:00 - [131] Originally by: Nicholas Barker Originally by: Nyphur I was wondering, would it be possible to make certificates almost like a group of skillbooks? As in, you'd start training the certificate and it would train the skills in its list in order until they reach the levels in it? That would allow limited and very controlled skill queues. Originally by: CCP Greyscale Certificates don't allow you to set skill queues or any similar functionality did you even read it? I'm not asking what they are currently designed to do, I'm asking if there is a possibility of CHANGING the concept to something more frigging useful than what is essentially achievements to show off with. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Dmian Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.15 21:56:00 - [132] Originally by: Pottsey Vina said "Those modules are a stupid waste of highslots, combined with the fact they auto-target EVERYTHING in range... worthless module. ECM ships should be able to lock the max targets you can anyway." I don't think they are a waste. They don't lock everything that was fixed ages ago. Anyway I dont use them to auto lock things, I use them for extra locks. What about Signal Amplifier II? They boost target locks, scan res and scan range. http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/EN/shipequipment/electronicsandsensorupgrades/signalamplifiers/1987.asp If you press the "Quote" link on top of the message you want to quote, it will add the message to your reply. You know that, right? ---- Eve Alpha - The font of Eve - Get it here
Nyphur Pillowsoft	Posted - 2008.10.15 22:22:00 - [133] Originally by: Dmian If you press the "Quote" link on top of the message you want to quote, it will add the message to your reply. You know that, right? You're just jealous because Pottsey has posting style :D EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
GeneralXplosiv	Posted - 2008.11.13 23:51:00 - [134] Is there a way to remove a medal that i have created for my corp? I messed it up?
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2008.11.14 00:25:00 - [135] Originally by: Derdre Esme -will it be possible to buy / sell medals and i bet if it will be possible, it will be only as 'collectible' ? 1. Make own corp. 2. Copy medal you like. 3. Issue medal to yourself. [] thinking. -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2008.11.14 01:28:00 - [136] just like to say I'm 2 days from hull tankiing
Giand Amazone Caldari Knights of the Old Code	Posted - 2008.11.15 16:19:00 - [137] Is it possible for a corporation to take back a medal from a member once it's given out ?
Zanmaru Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2008.11.16 01:08:00 - [138] Edited by: Zanmaru on 16/11/2008 01:13:16 Kudos to CCP for these small but significant improvements. Certificates in particular helped to show me what areas I'm weak in. As for the complainers, the only legitimate argument is that time spent devoloping these features could have been used on something else, but that's ridiculous, as it assumes these simple features took a long time to develop. And very few can argue that these changes detract from the game. Point your NERDRAGE! cannons at the speed nerfs if you need something to complain about. (edit) The blog entry even mentions that the New Player Experience group developed certs, so its not like they would have been working on anything that would have affected current players otherwise anyway. ---

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