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Cynaux Aulte
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:28:00 -
[61]
Why go half hog with a stupid idea when you can run with it!
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Raymond Sterns
Utopian Research I.E.L.
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.10.14 06:58:00 -
[62]
 Originally by: Lady *******nose
Edited by: Lady *******nose on 14/10/2008 06:12:54
If CCP are going to screw us over, they might as well screw us over royally and do it right. Momma always said it ain't worth trying if you're not gonna do it right.
Momma always said like was like a box of chocolate, you never know when you're gonna get punt kicked in the butt.
Or something like that.
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RedLion
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 07:07:00 -
[63]
Stop LP = YEA
Corp closure / market cancel = NAY
Deleting very old characters (specially on trial accounts), and corporations without any members = YEA
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The Gallenteans must be destroyed
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Eran Laude
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:01:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Eran Laude on 14/10/2008 08:01:12
Agreed.
IMHO, banning "goast tranin" is a positive step, so they should go one step further and nerf account processes in general.
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Myk Taison
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:04:00 -
[65]
supporting goon trolls
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:12:00 -
[66]
Goons are being sarcatic trolls per usual.
But I agree with killing RP and market orders (if possible) would be consistent with ghost skilling. The difference between market orders/RP and SP is that you cannot just 'pause' a market order or pause your RP. You can cancel market orders/RP, but that is different from pausing as you lose all current RP. If CCP wrote a way to pause all orders/RP and other stuff then I fully support this.
Not being able to reactivate an account with GTCs makes zero sense however. You not are profiting with an inactive account, so that doesn't make any sense at all.
Weak troll .5/10
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Ankhesentapemkah
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.10.14 08:25:00 -
[67]
Yes to a stop on RP gain for inactive accounts, so that the legitimate players can earn more with them.
On the other hand it makes invention more expensive and that's not a good development, but that system should be overhauled anyway.
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.10.14 09:26:00 -
[68]
All is good up until...
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Also GTC's must not be usable on an inactive account. If you want to reactivate an account they you have to pay in cold hard cash. This is the only way it can be fair to everyone because the benefits of having isk should accrue only to paying players!
GTCs are cold hard cash. Some of us cant subscribe through CCP shop.. I forget the error or whatever I got when I tried but it wouldnt work.
Trading isk for GTC codes securely just makes sense.
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Ribeye Jaksom
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 09:59:00 -
[69]
Did not read OP.
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Saraah Leeown
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Posted - 2008.10.14 10:11:00 -
[70]
Absolutely, I've been calling for this for months |
zzCoins
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 11:16:00 -
[71]
Ghost research points should be removed
Other changes are not needed
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Odetta Harpy
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Posted - 2008.10.14 12:24:00 -
[72]
I HATE YOU ALL
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Suitonia
interimo
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Posted - 2008.10.14 12:41:00 -
[73]
If CCP are removing 'ghost training' then I see no reason for them not to do this too.
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Reika Wylde
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Posted - 2008.10.14 13:38:00 -
[74]
yes.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2008.10.14 13:53:00 -
[75]
I'm going to say no on the basis that I'm against the disabling of ghost training anyway as a bad precedent that caused all this crap, promoted by a bunch of whiners who seem to want every MMO out there to be absolutely the same.
Why not go the whole way and just have us earn SP on blowing ships up and therefore no SP earning unless you're playing the game (which should sound familiar territory to those from other MMOs), and forget about all the things that made EVE the game it was?
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Environmental Effects
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AlphaMeridian
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 14:31:00 -
[76]
Supported (if only because this will make me shitloads of isk)
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Jin Labarre
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Posted - 2008.10.14 15:02:00 -
[77]
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Ledoro
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Posted - 2008.10.14 15:09:00 -
[78]
Only right to halt all functions on an inactive account while it is inactive. |
Rongar Maximus
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Posted - 2008.10.14 15:35:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Tevlent
Edited by: Tevlent on 13/10/2008 20:20:47
Your market orders and research points should stop if the account is inactive. After all, with market orders up you can make money while your account is expired. With research points you can continue to accumulate them while your account is expired, and when you re-subscribe you come back to a fat amount of RPs that you can cash in for ISK. That is entirely inconsistent with the ghost training thing.
If CCP wants to remove ghost training then they should also remove market orders from inactive accounts, and stop inactive accounts from acquiring RPs.
Dividend payouts to inactive shareholders as well, those should be stopped.
Also GTC's must not be usable on an inactive account. If you want to reactivate an account they you have to pay in cold hard cash. This is the only way it can be fair to everyone because the benefits of having isk should accrue only to paying players!
Capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters should reap the benefits of the game, not inactive ones. TIMExENERGY=PROFIT! NOT TIMExINACTIVE=PROFIT!
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Qlanth
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 15:41:00 -
[80]
Yep
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Hertford
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 16:18:00 -
[81]
Yep yep. |
Kashbrok
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.14 16:35:00 -
[82]
Very much agree.
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KAELA MENSHA
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:02:00 -
[83]
I can hear the screaming on the forums now
My bank screwed up my direct debits.
And you deleted my accounts,
wheres my dreadnought/freighter/battleship/etc/etc/etc
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:23:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Tevlent
Edited by: Tevlent on 13/10/2008 20:20:47
Your market orders and research points should stop if the account is inactive. After all, with market orders up you can make money while your account is expired. With research points you can continue to accumulate them while your account is expired, and when you re-subscribe you come back to a fat amount of RPs that you can cash in for ISK. That is entirely inconsistent with the ghost training thing.
If CCP wants to remove ghost training then they should also remove market orders from inactive accounts, and stop inactive accounts from acquiring RPs.
Dividend payouts to inactive shareholders as well, those should be stopped.
Also GTC's must not be usable on an inactive account. If you want to reactivate an account they you have to pay in cold hard cash. This is the only way it can be fair to everyone because the benefits of having isk should accrue only to paying players!
Capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters should reap the benefits of the game, not inactive ones. TIMExENERGY=PROFIT! NOT TIMExINACTIVE=PROFIT!
OP is nothing but logical and consistent. END RP/Market/research exploitation by unsubbed alts NOW.
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Little help
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:34:00 -
[85]
+1
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shuckstar
Gallente
Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:40:00 -
[86]
Supported
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Kotori Shirakawa
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.14 17:46:00 -
[87]
Consistency++
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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:14:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Tevlent
Your market orders and research points should stop if the account is inactive. After all, with market orders up you can make money while your account is expired. With research points you can continue to accumulate them while your account is expired, and when you re-subscribe you come back to a fat amount of RPs that you can cash in for ISK. That is entirely inconsistent with the ghost training thing.
If CCP wants to remove ghost training then they should also remove market orders from inactive accounts, and stop inactive accounts from acquiring RPs.
Dividend payouts to inactive shareholders as well, those should be stopped.
Also GTC's must not be usable on an inactive account. If you want to reactivate an account they you have to pay in cold hard cash. This is the only way it can be fair to everyone because the benefits of having isk should accrue only to paying players!
Capsuleers who actively put their time and energy into working on their characters should reap the benefits of the game, not inactive ones. TIMExENERGY=PROFIT! NOT TIMExINACTIVE=PROFIT!
I'd agree with it, without the non-GTC option.
Simply because with multiple accounts, it's easy and frequent enough that an account goes inactive because you weren't watching the days remaining on the account. Transferring isk to the inactive account, from an active one, should still be possible.
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Jill Montana
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:28:00 -
[89]
I'm all for consistency.
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Calvin Tower
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Posted - 2008.10.14 18:30:00 -
[90]
This needs implemented if ghosting is an imbalance, then getting rp (and thus ISK) while inactive should be blocked, too, and right away.
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