Did they say how much it costs per man? Because I don't recall reading that, what I do recall however is CCP removing the limit on how many wardecs you can have active at one time.

I found one good proposal, please CCP, read it!!!!


Form Eve News24 comments:

"Take the Killboards of the aggressor and the defender as base for the calculation.

The bigger the difference the more expensive the wardec must be. Will protect mining-corps or R&D-corps better then the membercount."


And bind corp killboards with member kill boards so that there can't be infinite number of corps only for one or two war decs and then killed.
Killboards of corps will be combined killboards of its members. (your record goes with you in the new corp you join.)
I think it would be perfect.

I will quote myself about solution for one part of that problem:

"I still think this would be the best solution ISK part of the problem:



So elite PVP corps with rich killboard will attack other PVP corps with good killboards for little money. (you have balls you pay less)
And if elite PVP corp with rich killboard attacks mining/indy corp without any killboard (empty/poor killboard) it must pay much of ISK. (you are a wuss who attacks people who cant defend themself - you will really pay for it)

So you are paying for less risk.
Find the opponent of your own size and have fun, if you like fighting, and don't grief children who cant defend themself.
I think that's only fair."

From a personal level, we are a 5-6 men corp, and we contemplate the possibility of waging war on large alliances in order to attack one member at a time, and run away when they bring friends.

Fixed that for you
I support this feature and I do war dec, why should it cost you just 50 mill to dec a 1000 man alliance? I am sorry that eve is becoming to "hardcore" for you. If you actually did target freighters then you would have plenty of isk to fund the war..so nice try.

Your irrelevance is amazing.

From what I have read the cost is as follows :

25 mil (or something along those lines) for war dec to a corp
50 mil to an alliance
500,000 isk per member.

For an alliance like the Goons, it would effectively cost over 4 billion isk a week to keep a wardec on them.

I will quote myself about solution for one part of that problem:

"I still think this would be the best solution ISK part of the problem:



So elite PVP corps with rich killboard will attack other PVP corps with good killboards for little money. (you have balls you pay less)
And if elite PVP corp with rich killboard attacks mining/indy corp without any killboard (empty/poor killboard) it must pay much of ISK. (you are a wuss who attacks people who cant defend themself - you will really pay for it)

So you are paying for less risk.
Find the opponent of your own size and have fun, if you like fighting, and don't grief children who cant defend themself.
I think that's only fair."

So valid points are brought to the table and you dismiss them because I disagree with you? lmao

As much as I would love to, I couldn't understand your proposal.

Could you try and word it in a different manner. Either I am blind or stupid, don't know.

Uhuh. And how are you going to stop people from grabbing a character and putting a few thousand losses on it to have its presence in the corporation act as a decshield?

Ill try to go step by step:

First:
Make killboard of corps as a combined killboard of their members so that players kill record goes with him when he change the corp.

Second:
Make difference between killboards of attacker and defender as a base for calculating war fee.
Something like this:
- Add up isk worth of all destroyed things by all members of the corp
- Add up isk worth of all losses of all members of the corp
- Subtract this two values
- Divide value that you got after last step with number of corp members.

Third:
- Do above thing (from second step) for attacker and defender corp
- Subtract values of attacker and defender corp
- That value you have now use for calculating the price for war dec (multiply it with some number of isk and you get war dec fee)

Ill try to go step by step:

First:
Make killboard of corps as a combined killboard of their members so that players kill record goes with him when he change the corp.

Second:
Make difference between killboards of attacker and defender as a base for calculating war fee.
Something like this:
- Add up isk worth of all destroyed things by all members of the corp
- Add up isk worth of all losses of all members of the corp
- Subtract this two values
- Divide value that you got after last step with number of corp members.

Third:
- Do above thing (from second step) for attacker and defender corp
- Subtract values of attacker and defender corp
- That value you have now use for calculating the price for war dec (multiply it with some number of isk and you get war dec fee)


This way you have system that will make cheap for PVPers to war dec PVPers regardless of number of players in corps.
And will make attacking indy/noob corp by the PVP corp expensive

If you have balls to attack someone who can fight back you will pay little, and if you are a wuss and attack someone who cant defend itself you will pay much.

I hope you understand better now.

p.s.
This was only an example so there can be changes.

So valid points are brought to the table and you dismiss them because I disagree with you? lmao

You brought zero valid points to the table, and two personal attacks.

For this to work then you would have to have an official CCP Kill Board which is probably the biggest problem with this idea and any other that involves kill boards.

As for values of items destroyed, how would you decide what their values are?

Mineral values for ships and modules perhaps, what about things like BPO's, BPC's, PI, Implants which values are purely based on what people want to pay for them and such very subjective.

Point 1- If you attack freighters then you should have isk to continue a war.
Point 2- Real Pvp'ers will pay whatever is needed to pvp.
Point 3- I support the war dec changes.

Being unable or unwilling to defend yourself shouldn't be a means to defend yourself.

Just putting it out there.

This type of system would be so unbalanced that CCP would be literally $1000 jeans-on-head ******** to even consider it.

So I guess we'll be seeing a dev blog on its implementation shortly.

Point 3- I support the war dec changes.

Well, doing this by kill-death ratios alone would be blatantly exploitable. Using ISK values makes it slightly more difficult, but each side can still game the system.

Both sides are aiming for the lowest efficiency possible; the attackers do it to lower the cost of war by being more like the defenders, and the defenders are trying to raise the cost of war by being much "worse" than the attackers. Both can fake losses to lower their ratio. They can also lower it by padding the corporation with no or low activity members.

Why does it seem that so many decisions taken by CCP in the development of this game have the sole purpose to reinforce the idea that everyone should be in a power bloc and that small entities and small groups of players are none of CCP's concern ?

Ok, they can, but its so much harder then with CCPs proposal.
And what if there is not middle value??? (value is not divided with number of members)?
Then its fix sum of all members isk damage and i don't see how it can it be exploitable then.
No exploits but gradation is more steep then.

Point 1- If you attack freighters then you should have isk to continue a war.
Point 2- Real Pvp'ers will pay whatever is needed to pvp.
Point 3- I support the war dec changes.