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Opertone Caldari SIEGE. United Legion	Posted - 2008.10.23 03:07:00 - [31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3v8EkW5koI - no links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqX82-HRYE - copy paste
Harrent Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.23 03:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Opertone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3v8EkW5koI - no links http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgqX82-HRYE - copy paste Completely fail to see the point in those videos. =----------= Semper Fi
Baldour Ngarr Interwarp Plexus Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.10.23 08:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Harrent Completely fail to see the point in those videos. It's quite some time now since anything in this thread had a point. :D ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Kendar Gallente Disney inc	Posted - 2008.10.23 08:40:00 - [34] Originally by: Romp Stomp Such a wafd move to quote yourself, but sometimes people don't read. Originally by: Romp Stomp from a developer and only a developer. Do you know this for a fact because you programmed the game Kendar? yes
Hesperius	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:42:00 - [35] Edited by: Hesperius on 24/10/2008 19:44:09 The devs seem to like to leave the game up to the player. Yesterdays comments in the live dev blog when questioned about Jove would be unlocked went something like this: "That is a good question. Next question." People saying you cant get it... They don't know for a fact if you can get in or not. CCP seems to want to put the history of Eve and the story of Eve in the players hands as much as possible. I cant imagine that CCP would not leave unlocking Jove up to the people who PLAY eve. Weather it is currently in the game mechanics... that would be a good answer to know. I spent time doing things such as trying to see if the Apothesis pointed to something like a number in a Jove station that could possibly indicate a star system to go to. If it isn't in the game right now, it should be.
Tornim Minmatar HeXstoof	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:49:00 - [36] Originally by: Hesperius Weather it is currently in the game mechanics... that would be a good answer to know. I spent time doing things such as trying to see if the Apothesis pointed to something like a number in a Jove station that could possibly indicate a star system to go to. If it isn't in the game right now, it should be. thats got to be it. the new jove shuttle. my theory is that if ur the last person with an Apothesis you win the Jove prize. so start buy or blowing up each others Apothesis!
Korovyov Mercantile Investments	Posted - 2008.10.24 22:32:00 - [37] Actually, there is a way to get into Jove space. Back in 2004 a Jove guy exploded when he tried to use his teleporter, sending little bony bits into everyone's hangar. CCP cleverly misled everyone into donating them to a faction to gain Jove standing, thus removing the majority of the seeded items and making them impossibly rare. You'll need trillions of isk and a lot of luck to buy one off someone who actually kept a Jivian giblet. Once you have your giblet, I suggest you go to Band of Brothers controlled space with it (Querious, Delve, Period-Basis looks like). Why there? Well there was a bit of drama way back about BoB being favored by CCP, and well... used to be a good bit of CCP devs like TomB were Jovian, right? So, my speculation would be that maybe if you take a Jovian bit to some NPC out in BoB space (maybe a roaming space agent) they will give you high standings with the Jove empire and thus you can use some widget to get into Jovian space. That's my guess. Good luck! All of this is moot, though, because this game has a serious lack of space whales.
Jonna Andromedae	Posted - 2008.10.24 22:54:00 - [38] Originally by: Romp Stomp One is where some bug testing goes one. So you are saying that Jove space holds SISI?
Baldour Ngarr Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.25 00:55:00 - [39] Originally by: Hesperius People saying you cant get it... They don't know for a fact if you can get in or not. The people saying you can't get in ARE CCP. How in the blue hell are you going to argue that the people who made the game, don't know which bits are closed off?
Hesperius	Posted - 2008.10.25 06:19:00 - [40] If a dev comes in here and says that Jove space can not be unlocked, I could not argue that. Regardless, Im going to keep my eyes peeled for clues. If there isn't a mystery to getting today, perhaps some time in the future. I think it would be lameburger if they just popped some gates in and put the open sign up. You never know what someone else has planned and thinks would be neat though.
Harrent Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.25 10:18:00 - [41] Originally by: Hesperius If a dev comes in here and says that Jove space can not be unlocked, I could not argue that. Regardless, Im going to keep my eyes peeled for clues. If there isn't a mystery to getting today, perhaps some time in the future. I think it would be lameburger if they just popped some gates in and put the open sign up. You never know what someone else has planned and thinks would be neat though. Easter Eggs ftw. I remember back in the old excel you could play games in there... Countless hours in highschool were spent doing that... =----------= Semper Fi
Baldour Ngarr Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.25 15:10:00 - [42] Originally by: Hesperius If a dev comes in here and says that Jove space can not be unlocked, I could not argue that. But you are doing.
CompMage Caldari 151st Arch-Angels	Posted - 2008.10.25 15:38:00 - [43] Let's think about this for a while. Jove space...... They can't open it up. Or more of it would be to much of a system shock to the whole of the eve echo system. This is why. First you have to see... that is huge expansion to 0.0 space. Now with that huge vacuum of space every major alliance is going to surge in. This will create mass havoc on the servers. Most of the servers supporting systems with entry points into the Jove are will need to be twice what Jita is. We are talking 2000+ players running in there with every major battle asset they can. We are talking 10+ titans in some of the systems. And if that will not crash a server nothing will. Not to mention that this would be about a good 10-15% increase in servers needed to run the game. Now this will also create a good vacuum to because all the large alliances will be fighting over the new space. Smaller corps in empire and low sec will likely be able to come up and take hold of a few systems. The challenge will be to hold on to them once the dust settles. Beyond that is the flux to the eve economy. You're going to see HUGE losses likely trillions lost out of the economy from loss of huge numbers of capital ships, and other PVP. While this will be GREAT long term as with any great war (see real history ) short term it will create another vacuum till things settle down. Prices for basic ore will go up to crazy prices and "carebare" mission runners will get hosed as the cost of basic ships once the economy if flushed out shortly of what's around will jump in price dramatically. In the end for 3-4 months everything would be completely FUBAR. Past that, stay cloaked by the gates that lead in and wait for a dev. If you look at the maps with it set to show how many players are in system you can catch a few dev pilots having fun from time to time. Cheers!
Hesperius	Posted - 2008.10.25 17:25:00 - [44] Originally by: CompMage Let's think about this for a while. Jove space...... They can't open it up. Or more of it would be to much of a system shock to the whole of the eve echo system. The speculation that a massive fleet of caps would be going out to Jove and the entire economy collapsing... I imagine that when the link to our universe and the Jove empire is made, there will be some fluctuations. I do not think it will be the end of the universe. Originally by: Jonna Andromedae Originally by: Romp Stomp One is where some bug testing goes one. So you are saying that Jove space holds SISI? If you load up sovereignty on your map, show all factions and alliances, go look at Jove space, you will see that someone has sovereignty out there. The alliance is Tanis. Alliance "Testing alliance operated by CCP Quality Assurance."
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.10.25 19:25:00 - [45] I have 2.50 standing with Jove. I'll be as ready as one can be when the UFOs come for me.
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.10.25 19:41:00 - [46] Im a Joviphile. Beyond getting actual jovian faction up to 2.5 its also possible to get Society faction uopt to 6 or 7.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.10.25 23:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Romp Stomp Am I wasting my time looking for clues that could lead into Jove? yes
croakroach Gallente DEATH'S LEGION	Posted - 2008.10.26 03:04:00 - [48] I think that when ccp decides to close the game for good (i hope not) they will open a jove gate and send armadas of jove Bs and caps into high , low sec and 0.0 and wipe out all the players and disrupting the clones so we cant be reborn and then anouce the closure of eve for good
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.26 03:30:00 - [49] Originally by: Romp Stomp When I was a few weeks into this game I started looking around at the map and saw this mysterious place in space that was totally vacant, and there was no way to get to it. Jove. You definitely can get to Jove space. it's in the database, there are systems & stations, there are polaris and other ships there. Devs hang out there for testing that can't be done easily on SiSi. And there most definitely is a way to reach it from 0.0 I don't want to get banned for exploits or anything so I will leave it at that. Also, what the hell is a 'waypost'?
Higgs Foton Scoopex Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2008.10.26 13:58:00 - [50] There is actually a very easy way to get there. Fly with a cap ship to one of the systems near jove space, and then ask in the rookie channel if one of the devs there will light a cyno for you. A lot of people did that! And they never returned, so still no jove skills and bpo's. :(
Elhina Novae Sky's Edge	Posted - 2008.10.26 14:33:00 - [51] Jove space is not possible to reach atm. The Devs said during fanfest they will reveal T3 ships and Jovians... DAMN IT COULDN'T GO THERE THIS YEAR! I am so going to the fanfest next year
faithl3ss	Posted - 2008.10.26 15:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Ghoest Im a Joviphile. Beyond getting actual jovian faction up to 2.5 its also possible to get Society faction uopt to 6 or 7. Interestng. How do you increase Jove standings across the board?
Ghoest	Posted - 2008.10.26 15:48:00 - [53] Jovian maxes out at 2.5 you get that from Minmatar. Society of Conscious Thought goes up to 6 and you get that from SOE.

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