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Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:19:00 - [1] Surely if a battleship collides with a frigate it should be game over. Mass should be an available weapon. My ship is bigger & if it bumps into something smaller both ships should obtain damage & in the case of a small ship that should be significant-now try getting out of a Jita without bumping into something! Just a thought
Sovereign533 Caldari PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:20:00 - [2] you bumped into my freighter, ph34r the concord pwnage
Lazuran Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:21:00 - [3] Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course.
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:24:00 - [4] Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. I think that is correct-equal and opposite reactions and all that. When guns hit a target the target should react and get pushed into a new orbit especially with smaller ships. Eve uses an adapative physics engine-it adapts to whatever is easier to program.
soldieroffortune 258 Gallente Trinity Council	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:25:00 - [5] Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. and missiles oh, and lasers should burn a hole through the ship, and if it hits your engine, you cant move anymore Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 "*Eve is about making yourself richer while making the other guy poorer*"
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:25:00 - [6] the cpu's...think of the cpu's Wyvern & Chimera fitting flowchart
Yuleth Gix	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:25:00 - [7] /me fires magic missile at the darkness.
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Sovereign533 you bumped into my freighter, ph34r the concord pwnage That is an interesting thought. Concorde should not intervene as it is a traffic accident. The exploit for safe empire ganking is alrady in the mixer!
Lana Lanee	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:27:00 - [9] i'm gonna get 5 friends, get in 5 apocs, 7 1600 plates, mwd, gogo, insta kill another bs. immagine that!
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:29:00 - [10] Edited by: Pteranodon on 23/10/2008 13:28:57 Originally by: Lana Lanee i'm gonna get 5 friends, get in 5 apocs, 7 1600 plates, mwd, gogo, insta kill another bs. immagine that! .....your lucky. I haven't got 5 friends.
Lana Lanee	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:29:00 - [11] tsk tsk, you need friends and lots of alts to spam the forums when you have an ideea like this, so the devs implement it cuz lots of ppl whine
Abrazzar	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:30:00 - [12] And lasers should create either a heat or a ecm effect, depending on the frequency. And Hybrids should punch through one layer of protection, blasters bleed through shields and rails bleed through armor. -------- Ideas for: Mining
Maxxt0r	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:30:00 - [13] Originally by: soldieroffortune 258 Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. and missiles oh, and lasers should burn a hole through the ship, and if it hits your engine, you cant move anymore Larger missles such as torps used to knock you around in the old days. This was back when torps were long range and could kill a frig with 2 missles. This was changes as people were complaining that if they were getting ganked the enemy did not need to have a scram on them simply becouse the torps hitting them would knock them out of alignment that they would never reach 3/4 speed in the right direction to warp
Andrea Tesla Caldari Crazy Clone Warriors of Disaster Hereticus Aegis Communis	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. ... which consequently would mean, that the ship, that is firing the projectile weapons gets pushed off its course when firing already... impulse conservation principle. oh and what about shields that take 100% of the damage ? would they absorb the impulse too or not ? I would guess, that the shields are an orb around the ship and that gets a small dent which is immediately restored by the shield emitters.... So bumping only if the shield is breeched ? Sounds like a lot of physics involved to gain very little effect. Taking mass and speed into the equations for bumping does sound reasonable though.. An 10k m/s inti bumping into a dread should explode, not send the dread bumping away. AT
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:34:00 - [15] Imo you should be able to turn on and off collision avoidance, by default it should be on. If both ship got it on, it works like now If one ship has it on, that ships gets knocked out of course when there is almost a collision, the ship with avoidance off will continue its previous course If both ships have it off, the smaller one will be destroyed and the larger one takes damage depending on the size of the smaller one.
Pteranodon	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:35:00 - [16] X3 has the right idea. You can kill NPC ships when you bump into them. You take a faction hit for each one you accidentaly kill & the death screams are hilarious. I used to take a big freighter out just to kill as many NPC's as possible in the shortest time-don't we call these people noobs in Eve!- I digress.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:47:00 - [17] Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. shouldn't the ship that fires also do these equilly (except with explosive (not the damage type, just stuff that created a bang from a reaction other than from a collision) ammo types) --------- I JUST FOUND THE GAME!
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:51:00 - [18] I had images of sermons from which there was no escape. - DesuSigs
Tashiie Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:53:00 - [19] This would be a Minmatar buff post speed nerf, therefore it will never happen.
Shirley Serious Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.10.23 13:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Crumplecorn I had images of sermons from which there was no escape. i lol'd Yes. Yes, I am.
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Pteranodon Surely if a battleship collides with a frigate it should be game over. Mass should be an available weapon. My ship is bigger & if it bumps into something smaller both ships should obtain damage & in the case of a small ship that should be significant-now try getting out of a Jita without bumping into something! Just a thought No it shouldn't and stop calling me Shirley -- Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Pteranodon Surely if a battleship collides with a frigate it should be game over. Mass should be an available weapon. My ship is bigger & if it bumps into something smaller both ships should obtain damage & in the case of a small ship that should be significant-now try getting out of a Jita without bumping into something! Just a thought You do realize that a interceptor at full overheated MWD speeds would act as a projectile driving through (given how the best armoured BS has the equivalent armour of 3.2m of reinforced rolled tungsteen plates, and the very best you can get in game would be the equivalent of 11.2M of it) your armour with trivial ease, and then burning through the delicate hull of your ship as over a thousand tons of metal heated by friction to melting point plows through your ship's hull at the speed of sound, effective one-volleying your BS with a 15M interceptor with overheated MWD and 3x overdrive II? I like it. Sig removed, inappropriate link. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Rhatar Khurin Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:31:00 - [23] Bumping is completely screwed atm anyway. After steaming my tempest at someone flying a malediction and coming to a dead stop with neither me or the inty whizzing off.
TigerXtrm BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:32:00 - [24] Lol can you imagine a fleetfight with that? 500 ships all racing out at each other in a game of who will survive! :D
Cpt Branko Surge.	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:40:00 - [25] New role for interceptors: kamikaze ships
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:43:00 - [26] Another interpretation is that fleets with fat FCs should always win.
Faife Noctiscion	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:45:00 - [27] Originally by: Cpt Branko New role for interceptors: kamikaze ships new?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.10.23 14:46:00 - [28] Originally by: Faife Originally by: Cpt Branko New role for interceptors: kamikaze ships new? I LOL'd
mr id Caldari White Cell	Posted - 2008.10.23 15:10:00 - [29] Originally by: Pteranodon Originally by: Sovereign533 you bumped into my freighter, ph34r the concord pwnage That is an interesting thought. Concorde should not intervene as it is a traffic accident. The exploit for safe empire ganking is alrady in the mixer! No, you must stop, not move the ships, exchange insurance info and wait for the CONCORD Traffic division to send an investigator... oh and better not be on a booster... lose your pod lic for a year, and only get three strikes.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Out of Order	Posted - 2008.10.23 15:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Lazuran Also, projectile weapons should push targets off their course. So should the lasers, torps, and hybrid weapons by that definition....

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