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TheStarman
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.10.24 16:05:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: wdwjhdw
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Go back to WoW. You're poisoning Eve's life blood with your very presence.
Unfortunately (for you) his money is as good as yours and CCP dont want people "going back to WOW", even if they never played WOW which you have no idea about with this guy.
If you had some male organs you would go to lowsec or nulsec, but you're so ****poor you have to run around highsec picking on the little guys. Truly pathetic.
CCP have stated they intend to change wardecs, and its people like you who exploit what was originally probably a good idea, so cry more and adapt, or leave and you wont be missed.
Post with your main.
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Bondo Jones
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Posted - 2008.10.24 16:21:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Molly Mayhem
Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
Clever troll is clever.
in addition...
Successful troll is successful.
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Sidus Isaacs
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Posted - 2008.10.24 16:28:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
Go back to WoW. You're poisoning Eve's life blood with your very presence.
You fail at spotting trolls :P
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Lustralis
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Posted - 2008.10.24 17:36:00 -
[34]
Originally by: TheStarman
Post with your main.
I've never understood what difference things like that make, unless of course you're looking for an angle, i.e. either an argument from authority or the opportunity to sneak in the Ad Hominem.
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.24 19:21:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Why suicide gank? Just wardec. Oh right, that's next on the list of stuff to ruin.
You used the wrong tense there, mate.
Which is why I am laughing at you all nerf whiners now. Was there an uproar on the forums when my alliance was nerfed? Nope. Do you think I am going to do anything but support the nerfs to games styles of all you ****ing hypocrites?
I ♥ the old Privateers.
It was a sad day for the game when "alliance P" got nerfed 
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.10.24 19:56:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Lustralis
Ok, can we have the obligatory "how many ravens will it take to suicide the Orca in high sec before Concord saves your life" thread.
Much obliged.
A few hundred.
1. Concord rebalance changed the timing and sec hit determined by the two parties (the attacker and the attacked).
2. Future insurance loss will make suicide ganking only for the most valuable targets, IE freighters carrying billions of isk worth of equipment to make the attack worth while.
3. Most Orcas will escape attack via wardec by either not being out during a war or simply being in an NPC corporation.
Given what the Orca will primaryly be used for, it would cost more to suicide attack the thing then any loot one could hope to get out of it. |
Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Safespot Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.24 20:35:00 -
[37]
What's wrong with the war-dec system? Just the ability for people to leave corp. to avoid?
Peace and love,
Josh
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Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.24 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert
What's wrong with the war-dec system? Just the ability for people to leave corp. to avoid?
There's that, for one
On the other side of it, CCP have mentioned recently that they don't much care for it as a 'pay to grief' system and prefer to somehow link it to goals and objectives, I think
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.24 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
if all you want to do is circle jerk with your friends eve online probably isn't for you. one of these games involves a cookie, here I will even give you the cookie, enjoy!
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.10.24 21:14:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
What's wrong with the war-dec system? Just the ability for people to leave corp. to avoid?
There's that, for one
On the other side of it, CCP have mentioned recently that they don't much care for it as a 'pay to grief' system and prefer to somehow link it to goals and objectives, I think
I agree, Pay to grief adds an extra step there I dont like.
Just grief. Thats my style 
Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.10.24 21:15:00 -
[41]
Originally by: wdwjhdw
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Go back to WoW. You're poisoning Eve's life blood with your very presence.
Unfortunately (for you) his money is as good as yours and CCP dont want people "going back to WOW", even if they never played WOW which you have no idea about with this guy.
If you had some male organs you would go to lowsec or nulsec, but you're so ****poor you have to run around highsec picking on the little guys. Truly pathetic.
CCP have stated they intend to change wardecs, and its people like you who exploit what was originally probably a good idea, so cry more and adapt, or leave and you wont be missed.
go ahead and look at my alliances active wars and then tell me we are picking on the "little guy"
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.10.24 22:04:00 -
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They are pretty damn tough from what I've tested on the test server.
Can fit a XL-shield booster quite easily. |
Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.10.24 22:29:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
Nice troll. |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.10.24 22:34:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/10/2008 22:34:09
Originally by: Megan Maynard
They are pretty damn tough from what I've tested on the test server.
Can fit a XL-shield booster quite easily.
wont do sheet in 19 seconds
SKUNK |
Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.24 22:58:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Mika Meroko on 24/10/2008 22:59:39
remember kids:
as long as other kiddies are paying CCP money, they can do whatever...
CCP are not gonna lock people into being targets,
period~!~!
****ing off the majority of your customers are bad mkay?
as for the epeeners/go back to wow people...
yes yes, they can ALL go back to wow and we can watch the devs having to cut back on cheese and booze money....
ignore the people who dont like being shot at.. have fun with the people who shoot back.
you will have less angst and more fun that way.
edit: ORCA with DC II and Reinforced bulkheads II are gonna be on par with a freighter... not as much... but almost there.
if they rig it for amour/shield resistances too... even more hp XD..
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.10.25 00:17:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Strak Yogorn
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Why suicide gank? Just wardec. Oh right, that's next on the list of stuff to ruin.
you cant ruin something thats already ruined.
We are talking about CCP here... I fully except non-consensual wars to be completely removed.
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Opertone
Caldari
SIEGE.
United Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.25 00:36:00 -
[47]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
Originally by: Strak Yogorn
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Why suicide gank? Just wardec. Oh right, that's next on the list of stuff to ruin.
you cant ruin something thats already ruined.
We are talking about CCP here... I fully except non-consensual wars to be completely removed.
oh that be sweet! |
McFly
C0LDFIRE
RUDE Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.25 01:16:00 -
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Wars are a fairly dodgy system currently. And although I did disagree with the Priv's being nerfed, I agree that the current system is in truth a pay to grief system. There are a lot of people in this game trying to get their bearings, remember this is not an easy game to learn, and every guide to help is not just outdated but many nerfs ago dated.
So yes I think there should be a measure of some safety in eve. For people who don't know what the hell is going on yet. NPC Corp tax I think is a good idea, to push more people into player corp/alliances. Simply because that is where the core of entertainment in this game comes from imho.
A Highsec CommandShip gate camp popping bewildered pilots who have no grasp on the game or it's mechanics. Now there does need to be a system for fighting in empire, that I whole heartedly agree on. A lot of people like to fight, and empire is an entertaining place to do it. But it can't be a system that allows repeated noob ganking leading to a group of freinds closing down their corp and rejoining the NPC corps. Eve is all about the player organizations. Be it alliance or corp or faction or people who chat in the same channel it's all about having fun with other people.
Anyway that's my 0.02 isk please troll hard, I'm not checking back for any of your reply's anyway.
--McFly-- |
Cece Cline
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Posted - 2008.10.25 10:32:00 -
[49]
Sorry but I'm not trolling, that's just the way it is and I'm saying it on behalf of lots of pilots.
It might become as a shock to you but not everyone gets their kicks doing gatecamps, some might even like to take somewhat more casual approach to the game, like enjoy it the way they like to without being griefed. :SHOCKANDHORRORIDONTBELIEVEIT:
I'd love to see negative wardecs, to pacify another firm making them unable to shoot player targets for a week, you need to mine for a week because I say so.
Oh, and if you don't like it "go back to wow".
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Joshua Calvert
Caldari
Safespot Industries
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Posted - 2008.10.25 10:46:00 -
[50]
Is anyone else remembering the attack on Yulai? :D |
fkingfurious
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Posted - 2008.10.25 11:27:00 -
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So whats being done to the war-dec system then? Or is this all just a bunch of forum emo rage?
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Mutabae
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Posted - 2008.10.25 12:04:00 -
[52]
Originally by: fkingfurious
So whats being done to the war-dec system then? Or is this all just a bunch of forum emo rage?
I suggest you go to the game dev forum and go back a couple of pages (I think there's also a dev blog). I'd point you in the right direction, but I dare not look at the threads again lest my blood pressure rise to dangerous levels.
In a nutshell, CCP wants to make war-decs harder to execute, with added flim-flam like 'victory conditions'. Apparently, the current system is 'pay-to-grief' (CCP's words, not mine). Soon(tm), avoiding combat in Eve, particularly in high-sec, will be even easier than it is currently.
:psyduck:
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OutOfTheBox Cyborg
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Posted - 2008.10.25 12:14:00 -
[53]
Originally by: wdwjhdw
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Go back to WoW. You're poisoning Eve's life blood with your very presence.
Unfortunately (for you) his money is as good as yours and CCP dont want people "going back to WOW", even if they never played WOW which you have no idea about with this guy.
If you had some male organs you would go to lowsec or nulsec, but you're so ****poor you have to run around highsec picking on the little guys. Truly pathetic.
CCP have stated they intend to change wardecs, and its people like you who exploit what was originally probably a good idea, so cry more and adapt, or leave and you wont be missed.
It seems to me that ccp have recently been trying to treat the symptoms of the problem, rather than address the cause.
High sec has never been totally safe, but it used to be basically safe unless you did something stupid, or behaved like an obnoxious jerk, or maybe were just occasionally unlucky. Why are those in high sec who just want to pve getting more pvp forced on them though?
Part of it may be more young immature players joining the game over the last year or two, but it would seem to me that it may be largely due to lowsec becoming a deserted dust bowl for pirates.
Instead of constantly nurfing the play style of of those who like to hunt, why not boost the pve content and rewards in lowsec.
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Comae Berenices
The Trillion ISK Project
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Posted - 2008.10.25 12:19:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Lustralis
After 24 hours, I can dock up and go play TF II for a while until the wardec is over.
And we have have a winner!
The Coward Carebear of the year: Lustralis! |
fkingfurious
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Posted - 2008.10.25 12:57:00 -
[55]
Tbh, the war dec system as it stands is pretty shambolic.
If they could just patch up all the silly ****ing holes like out of corp logistics ships repping war targets without getting flagged and non war target command ships in war target gangs giving bonuses without being flagged it'd be a start.
At least then you'd know who the **** was griefing you.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2008.10.25 16:37:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
loser |
The PitBoss
Caldari
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.25 19:14:00 -
[57]
If you're going to talk about us ... I guess the thread should have a token Active Privateer in it.
FREE HUGS ... meet me in Rens to collect 
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ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.10.25 20:13:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Why suicide gank? Just wardec. Oh right, that's next on the list of stuff to ruin.
You used the wrong tense there, mate.
Which is why I am laughing at you all nerf whiners now. Was there an uproar on the forums when my alliance was nerfed? Nope. Do you think I am going to do anything but support the nerfs to games styles of all you ****ing hypocrites?
This is what Banana's last Alliance op looked like
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Don't mind the crudely done "internet Sp4ceships". I'd throw in a few periods to show them firing but that last battle was fought with tears instead. Yeah they drowned the enemy to death, in space no less. |
ShardowRhino
Caldari
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2008.10.25 20:15:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Originally by: Cece Cline
I've always left my corps when the wardecced. I think wardeccing is stupid and it shouldn't be allowed. Small starting out friends only -corps are the ones suffering from this the most.
I play this game to get the coolest ships and gear available and fighting some war with 100-1 underadvantage doesn't sound fun to me, or atleast I don't want to pay for that. I rather do missions and mine and fly my officer fit faction bs's when I feel like it than hide cloaked in safespot with a 2m cruiser.
Make high sec safe and you gatecampers can keep low sec.
I've never been killed by players btw so I'm not bitter. Only ship I've lost so far was a cruiser in a lvl2 mission iirc a long time ago.
loser
OHHh....did that hook hurt when you bit down on that thing??  |
Mika Meroko
Minmatar
Crayon Posting Inc
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Posted - 2008.10.25 20:19:00 -
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to the guy who say buff low sec:
not gonna work, not until the math makes dying LESS painful...
IE: losing 1 insured BS. with insurance. = around 20 to 30 million isk lost to insure.
for most people.. thats about 1 to 10 hours of highsec stuff...
(keep in mind most people dont earn that much.. and that in reality, what you see in forum about blah blah 20+ mill an hour is just vets with too big an epeen to see that avg players DONT make that much.. nor have the time.)
so yeah, too many pirates + cost of loss = no way in hell people spend a week to recover losses for your giggles.
Originally by: CCP Atropos
I pod people because there's money to be made in selling tears.
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