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0uch	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:55:00 - [1] All has been cancelled, i'm doing my time payed out and parking my accounts (so leave the can i have your stuff posts out please) I hope a lot of people follow in my footsteps, a +150 pages post on the forums from them against the nerf didnt help, maybe if we take the $ signs out of there eyes they'll listen. I invested to much time in one of the chars to get him where he is now, and now that i can finally use it decently they think they can nerf it even if 2/1 is against it? And dont give me the adapt or die thingie.. i always adapt IRL but i'm not planning skilling again for ages before i'm adapted enough. The changes on SISI are plain stupid. So people of new eden, lets show them how much we like the nanonerf!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:57:00 - [2] Even if i'm tempted to say somethng else, i'll just say "won't matter what you do, will happen, leaving people are calculated risk."
knifee Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:57:00 - [3] Yer! you stick it to the man!
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:59:00 - [4] Oh no! What will Eve do without this faceless alt?
Furb Killer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2008.10.24 15:59:00 - [5] Removed. Please do not spam. Navigator
Gaius Weyland Caldari Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate EVESpace	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:00:00 - [6] Yeah! Down with the system! ...or not...meh
AkRoYeR	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:02:00 - [7] I just reactivated this alt because of the nerfs..so there you big meanie!
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:04:00 - [8] Originally by: 0uch I invested to much time in one of the chars to get him where he is now, You trained a flavor of the month and you expect something different?
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:12:00 - [9] Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/10/2008 16:14:44 Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/10/2008 16:12:59 Respect to the OP for putting his moeny where his mouth is. With luck, CCPs recent shocking behavior towards the gamebase, will be punished by many more people quitting/suspending alt accounts etc. whether your gripe is suicide ganks, speed, blasters, ghost training, GTC timecodes, or just the fashion they have been interacting with the gamebase over the past year.. do something positive and kill off an alt. With the people in control of the game atm, big drops in income is the only hope for them to get the message and mend their ways before what is at heart a truely excellant game does die out. SKUNK
Brodde Dim Unseen University	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:13:00 - [10] Originally by: 0uch and now that i can finally use it decently they think they can nerf it even if 2/1 is against it? I am sorry you were late on the bandwagon, but this is exactly why nerf is necessary. Soon everyone would be specialized in flying nanoed HACs, and nanos would be the only way to pvp (atleast sub capital).

An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/10/2008 16:12:59 Respect to the OP for putting his moeny where his mouth is. With luck, CCPs recent shocking behavior towards the gamebase, will be punished by many more people quitting/suspending alt accounts etc. With the people in control of the game atm, big drops in income is the only hope for them to get the message and mend their ways before what is at heart a truely excellant game does die out. SKUNK You next.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:15:00 - [12] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Originally by: Le Skunk Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/10/2008 16:12:59 Respect to the OP for putting his moeny where his mouth is. With luck, CCPs recent shocking behavior towards the gamebase, will be punished by many more people quitting/suspending alt accounts etc. With the people in control of the game atm, big drops in income is the only hope for them to get the message and mend their ways before what is at heart a truely excellant game does die out. SKUNK You next. Am suspending two alt accounts when they run out next. So shut your face ;p SKUNK
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:26:00 - [13] Edited by: Haraldhardrade on 24/10/2008 16:26:17 Originally by: 0uch All has been cancelled, i'm doing my time payed out and parking my accounts (so leave the can i have your stuff posts out please) I hope a lot of people follow in my footsteps, a +150 pages post on the forums from them against the nerf didnt help, maybe if we take the $ signs out of there eyes they'll listen. I invested to much time in one of the chars to get him where he is now, and now that i can finally use it decently they think they can nerf it even if 2/1 is against it? And dont give me the adapt or die thingie.. i always adapt IRL but i'm not planning skilling again for ages before i'm adapted enough. The changes on SISI are plain stupid. So people of new eden, lets show them how much we like the nanonerf! So you fitted nanos since you started playing? If not, what did you do before nanos were the win? edit : I'm not going to ask, in stead I'm going to tell you to give me your stuff.
S1r Minealot Shade.	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:30:00 - [14] Edited by: S1r Minealot on 24/10/2008 16:30:06 Same here. sigh
Zalathar Minmatar Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:32:00 - [15] looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 in being opposed to it. if anything look like the opposite to me, if not 5 to 1 in favour. personally i think the nano nerf is a good idea, and playing around on sisi has given me the impression of more balanced combat. By training FOTM you asked to be eventually nerfed, and nanos have been like this for a while, so you got to enjoy it while it lasted. PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's.
Ksane Nkkpokm	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:34:00 - [16]
Zyck KDS Navy	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:35:00 - [17] Yeah, this nano nerf sucks! There's no other ships, mods, weapons, or tactics in the game at all!
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:40:00 - [18] I like how people point out how massive X or Y thread is. Funny thing is that's just a number, not much in the thread. It's usually the same 30 people going back and forth in a seemingly never ending smack/troll/occasional good point posts.
Jago Kain Amarr Pan Galactic Traders	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:47:00 - [19] Oh noes! Some total tool with no imagination is quitting the game rather than use his brain and work out a decent set-up that does not revolve around nanos. Must have come as a huge surprise as well; after all, CCP have never nerfed an obviously overpowered tactic or ship before in the name of game balance, have they? I guess we'd all better follow suit and quit too; after all, we wouldn't want the OP to think we didn't agree with his narrow minded view of things would we? Incidentally Ouch, I don't want your stuff; I have enough of my own and I got it without the EVE equivalent of waiting in dark alleys for old grannies to walk past and then running quickly up behind them with a crowbar in hand. Bye Ouch... it's a big universe and whatever happens, you won't be missed.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Zalathar 1)looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 ... 2)PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. 1) Look in the Assembly parts of the forums Currently 1582 AGAINST NANO NERF (votes) 785 FOR NANO NERF (votes) Which is the 2 to 1 hes talking about. 2) Until it is mandatory to vote, figures smaller the 200k are proportionaly high. 1585 people is the strongest support by far ANY issue has ever had in the CSM. Issues which have had 100 supports have been brought to the CSM, then CCP, hen actioned by CCP so CCP have established they think a couple of hundred votes is a significant amount (let alone 1500) Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. SKUNK

Uzume Ame	Posted - 2008.10.24 16:59:00 - [21] People can go on sisi before talking crap at least?
Tiirae The New Era HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Le Skunk Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. There's so many reasons why that vote thread achieves nothing that I can't begin to list them. But the most important reason is that CCP didn't create that thread, they didn't suggest people vote in it, and they sure as hell aren't bothered by it's contents. Citing the CSM in any of this is pointless as it's only been around a few months, you can't draw any conclusions from such a small sample. When pvp'ers leave because of stuff like this, it just hurts the pvp'ers that stay, because proportionately, we now represent less of their customers than before. it doesn't hurt CCP, because the bulk of their customers are carebears who didn't even vote in the csm elections and i'm sure don't give a toss about nanos. By leaving, you are in effect making things worse.
Aurora148 Gallente DBCI	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:03:00 - [23] the amount of people who are having emorage after the various nerfs and saying they will cancel all their accounts is laughable. people can whine and say they will cancel but in reality very few people will actually quit. ccp know this and just because 1/200th dont agree doesnt mean anything will change. Be thankfull that the devs even take notice at all, in the majority of games its done their way with feck all communication between devs and players at all.
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zalathar 1)looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 ... 2)PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. 1) Look in the Assembly parts of the forums Currently 1582 AGAINST NANO NERF (votes) 785 FOR NANO NERF (votes) Which is the 2 to 1 hes talking about. 2) Until it is mandatory to vote, figures smaller the 200k are proportionaly high. 1585 people is the strongest support by far ANY issue has ever had in the CSM. Issues which have had 100 supports have been brought to the CSM, then CCP, hen actioned by CCP so CCP have established they think a couple of hundred votes is a significant amount (let alone 1500) Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. SKUNK Is it possible to create alt's trials to 'beat' the voting system?
Malen Nenokal Eden Federal Recon	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:19:00 - [25] I like the nanonerf. Eden Federal Recon
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:30:00 - [26] 1. Nanonerf is not that bad 2. It hasn't even happened yet 3. Who the heck are you?
4nic8	Posted - 2008.10.24 17:44:00 - [27] I had a character called viqtoria (look for them on forums, then try to ingame...), after some of the recent ***zle (the repeated lying over ghost training, the bizzzzarrrre reasoning over GTC changes, WoW-esk game rebalancing, countless other serious issues with a 5 year old game, etc) and my feeling that ccp just ain't up to it, I deleted them. full +5 implants, 5% hardwirings, billions of isk and assets all given away and gone. I wish other people would, instead of whining in limbo, just do what they feel is the right course of action. make yer choice or stfu. fyi I agree with the OP, rebalancing in a game where it takes yonks to actually get anywhere or do anything* just ain't this gamers cup of tea! :)
Slade Trillgon Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:45:00 - [28] I don't really get it, that is all the hate against the nerf. I by no means know all the skill training that goes into flying a nano HAC, but could someone enlighten me to what skills need to be trained that can not be used with every other ship? I assume that the rigging skills to fit the speed rigs are pretty heavy but outside of that what other skills do not cross over? Oh yes. See you later /0 Slade Originally by: Crumplecorn NerfBat is now known as the WaveMachine. ≡v≡
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.24 18:51:00 - [29] Lol ------ Originally by: Micheal Dietrich You can even get a midget with a camera to sit on the floorboard.
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:04:00 - [30] Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zalathar 1)looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 ... 2)PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. 1) Look in the Assembly parts of the forums Currently 1582 AGAINST NANO NERF (votes) 785 FOR NANO NERF (votes) Which is the 2 to 1 hes talking about. 2) Until it is mandatory to vote, figures smaller the 200k are proportionaly high. 1585 people is the strongest support by far ANY issue has ever had in the CSM. Issues which have had 100 supports have been brought to the CSM, then CCP, hen actioned by CCP so CCP have established they think a couple of hundred votes is a significant amount (let alone 1500) Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. SKUNK I wonder how many of the subscribers who actually bothers reading the whine threads on the forums. Something tells me the nano whiners are a groups of well....whiners with nothing better to do because they are lazy at pvp.

4nic8	Posted - 2008.10.24 19:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Haraldhardrade Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zalathar 1)looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 ... 2)PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. 1) Look in the Assembly parts of the forums Currently 1582 AGAINST NANO NERF (votes) 785 FOR NANO NERF (votes) Which is the 2 to 1 hes talking about. 2) Until it is mandatory to vote, figures smaller the 200k are proportionaly high. 1585 people is the strongest support by far ANY issue has ever had in the CSM. Issues which have had 100 supports have been brought to the CSM, then CCP, hen actioned by CCP so CCP have established they think a couple of hundred votes is a significant amount (let alone 1500) Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. SKUNK I wonder how many of the subscribers who actually bothers reading the whine threads on the forums. Something tells me the nano whiners are a groups of well....whiners with nothing better to do because they are lazy at pvp. and your just a lame forum troll who likes to stir nationalist sentiment to make people spew internet tough-talk, what's your point?
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2008.10.24 20:09:00 - [32] Originally by: 4nic8 and your just a lame forum troll who likes to stir nationalist sentiment to make people spew internet tough-talk, what's your point? Nice claim, evidence please.
Lexa Hellfury Maximum Yarrage	Posted - 2008.10.25 04:15:00 - [33] Edited by: Lexa Hellfury on 25/10/2008 04:15:07 Originally by: Haraldhardrade the nano whiners are a groups of well....whiners with nothing better to do because they are lazy at pvp. Nice claim, evidence please.
Vladimir Ilych Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2008.10.25 09:25:00 - [34] Pfft. I never flew nano ships as I hate the concept. Felt like cheating to me. So a big "Yay!" for the nerf here.
Nocts Minmatar Vanguard Wing	Posted - 2008.10.25 09:28:00 - [35] To all above, please review this post: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=906617 --------- Jack Bombardier - Gallente huh. I thought the closest they had to a space program was throwing sharp wooden sticks* labeled "ballistic missiles" into the air*
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.25 09:42:00 - [36] Originally by: 4nic8 I had a character called viqtoria (look for them on forums, then try to ingame...), after some of the recent ****zle (the repeated lying over ghost training, the bizzzzarrrre reasoning over GTC changes, WoW-esk game rebalancing, countless other serious issues with a 5 year old game, etc) and my feeling that ccp just ain't up to it, I deleted them. full +5 implants, 5% hardwirings, billions of isk and assets all given away and gone. Good for you. One account, that's really going to hurt CCP's wallet What assets your character built up is totally irrelevant, you could have owned every isk in the game but you're still only paying for one account. Ghost training doesn't affect me as my account has always been active except for my 6 month break in my early days. At that time, the longest training time would only have been a few days. GTC changes got me a bit miffed cos now I have to budget for 3 months of game time from one months wages. The stealth price increase wasn't an issue because the price hasn't increased for years so it was on the cards anyway (excuse the pun), although CCP should have been a bit more open and admitted the increase in price. Game rebalancing can be done without nerfs though. It's bad to train for ages to get something just to have it nerfed from under you. New toys to counter rather than nerfs would appeal to everyone. Those who have trained will not have wasted their training and those who gripe about overpowered stuff will have something to counter them with. Although there are often already ways to counter them if people thought about it more, the nano corp that wardecced us gave up after losing nearly every nano ship they put up against us. My only real gripe is the lack of resources (ore etc) and slots in highsec, the lack of nullsec space for new alliances to make their home in and the resulting overcrowding of highsec. Lag caused by overcrowding wouldn't be so much of a problem if the amount of nullsec space was significantly increased. The problem is that it has never really increased by any significant amount since the game was first created but the population has more than doubled since I first started playing. However, the existing unused nullsec space that could be home to many new alliances is blocked by the alliances who control the bottlenecks to it. Sov has now made their control over these bottlenecks almost impregnable.
4nic8	Posted - 2008.10.25 15:46:00 - [37] hmmm you miss my point, i quit playing because for me it's no longer worth playing, infact i am done with mmos altogether - they're a horrible waste of time - but I put my isk where my mouth was which is something I wish more would do other than endlessly whine. It's ashtonishing to see so many grown men whining like they do here, wtf is up with that... oooh and it's 3 accounts (2 used ghost training to ease the strain on my isk as they never did much active stuff, just exploring different paths), to imply a company that through it's own actions/inactions/baldface lying is not getting my money (and many others) via subs or bought GTCs doesn't hurt it is perverse, of course it hurts them! but that's not on my agenda.
P'uck	Posted - 2008.10.25 18:45:00 - [38] I really don't get it. As the game is now (with a bit of a reduced maximal possible speed modifier) you just need to add some specialized webbers to a gang, and everything is fine. You know, rapiers and huginns and sometimes even hyenas work in most situations... OH NOES! A mandatory shiptype! So what? Just see where this will be going with falcons and arazus
Micheal Dietrich Caldari Terradyne Networks	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:37:00 - [39] I dedicated this song to the OP and all the fellow sheep
Jago Kain Amarr Pan Galactic Traders	Posted - 2008.10.26 00:46:00 - [40] Edited by: Jago Kain on 26/10/2008 00:46:12 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich I dedicated this song to the OP and all the fellow sheep Great idea MD, and in the same vein, for the OP. Wonder how many we can squeeze out of this one? ___________________________________________________ The game will never be over, because we're keeping the meme alive.

Julius Rigel House Rigel	Posted - 2008.10.26 09:38:00 - [41] I reactivated an account. Now your righteous emoragequit has been nullified!
Gr0n0s Dirty Filthy Perverts	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:28:00 - [42] NANONERF FTW !!!!!! bout time they sorted the "i shoot you @ range and MWD away" peeps the nerf would make low sec piracy a lot more interesting :)
Lord Windu Imperiosus Tutela	Posted - 2008.10.26 11:32:00 - [43] Bye, as I can't have your stuff can I just look after it for you then in my hangar?
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.26 12:43:00 - [44] I'm happy the nano nerf is going forward
Rasik Argimater	Posted - 2008.10.26 16:28:00 - [45] Originally by: Julius Rigel I reactivated an account. Now your righteous emoragequit has been nullified! You'll have to reactivate eight more to keep up with the nine I cancelled.
Rasik Argimater	Posted - 2008.10.26 16:42:00 - [46] Originally by: Zalathar PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. I recall reading that the rule used in U.S. federal class action suits is that each person in the suit represents about 1,500 others who didn't step forward. It was 150 pages, not 150 ppl, but even if 150 ppl and the U.S. rule were applicable, those 150 voicing their opinion would actually represent 225,000 ppl. Say the 150 pages were actually made by only 50 different ppl, and say that instead of being representative of 1500 each, they were only representative of 300 each... that would still be 15,000 people, and that could be as much as $225,000 per month, or $2.7 million per year. Get it? This is my sig?
4nic8	Posted - 2008.10.26 16:52:00 - [47] fyi i never poasted in that thread but ccp have lost my 3 accounts. but i gotta re-iterate that losing any amount of real cash because of their own actions, especially right now, hurts a company. to argue otherwise is silly.
annoing Viziam	Posted - 2008.10.26 17:36:00 - [48] I for one welcome our nano-nerf masters.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei United Front Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.26 19:01:00 - [49] At least some people with numbers in their names are leaving. Great. I am not asking for your stuff, just that you leave and do not return.
4nic8	Posted - 2008.10.26 19:38:00 - [50] Edited by: 4nic8 on 26/10/2008 19:44:10 edit: infact idiots like you ain't worth gracing with a considered response x

Sila Fang Caldari	Posted - 2008.10.26 21:00:00 - [51] Originally by: Highwind Cid Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Zalathar 1)looking around my friends, and people i know, i do not have any idea where you get the number that people are 2/1 ... 2)PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. 1) Look in the Assembly parts of the forums Currently 1582 AGAINST NANO NERF (votes) 785 FOR NANO NERF (votes) Which is the 2 to 1 hes talking about. 2) Until it is mandatory to vote, figures smaller the 200k are proportionaly high. 1585 people is the strongest support by far ANY issue has ever had in the CSM. Issues which have had 100 supports have been brought to the CSM, then CCP, hen actioned by CCP so CCP have established they think a couple of hundred votes is a significant amount (let alone 1500) Unfortunately, what "you and your mates think" is irrelevant unless you vote for or against. SKUNK Is it possible to create alt's trials to 'beat' the voting system? there are some easy ways to explain the figure as those anti nano-nerf are: a) more likely to vote as they have strong feelings in preserving their method of semi exploitive combat, then the ordinary person, who has not experienced many nanos, or does not feel passionately enough about the issue to bother casting a vote. b) most of the eve forum residents are pvpers, or think they are very tough people. Pvpers re more likely to vote against the nerf, as it gives them an advantage over those who do not pvp as much, so the voter base is also mildly skewed.
Evelgrivion Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.26 22:00:00 - [52] Numbers are nothing without a good argument to back them up. I actually haven't seen anyone make a good argument why the speed changes are detrimental to the game, I am loathe to say.
Death4free Caldari ADAMA Corps Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.10.26 22:37:00 - [53] Originally by: Evelgrivion Numbers are nothing without a good argument to back them up. I actually haven't seen anyone make a good argument why the speed changes are detrimental to the game, I am loathe to say. well for a start... 1.ccp just caved in because too many carebears started whining. Proof you say? well the nano issue has been around for aaaages when it was a big problem with 0.0 warfare ccp didnt bat an eyeli...however when fw came out and the carebears started whining ccp caved in. 2.ccp has no moderation when it comes to nerfing its either totally nerfed or totally buffed 3.nanos are just as easy to combat as other types of fighting (blobbing, spider tanking (which is imba), smartbomb gangs. Its just that the carebears feel that just because someone spent 5 bil on pimping out a crow (implants and all) they shouldnt have an advantage over someone in a 50mil drake. Eve information kiosk
Drima Veeshaub Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.10.27 03:07:00 - [54] Good riddance really. Delenda est achura.
EnslaverOfMinmatar Yarsk Hunters DeaDSpace Coalition	Posted - 2008.10.27 03:22:00 - [55] i can haz ur polycarbons?
Zalathar Minmatar Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.10.27 07:20:00 - [56] Edited by: Zalathar on 27/10/2008 07:22:10 Edited by: Zalathar on 27/10/2008 07:21:45 Originally by: Rasik Argimater Originally by: Zalathar PS: 150 people posting in a thread is not enough wehn you condier over 200K active subscriptions. while your opinion is valued, it is not valued over everyone else's. I recall reading that the rule used in U.S. federal class action suits is that each person in the suit represents about 1,500 others who didn't step forward. It was 150 pages, not 150 ppl, but even if 150 ppl and the U.S. rule were applicable, those 150 voicing their opinion would actually represent 225,000 ppl. Say the 150 pages were actually made by only 50 different ppl, and say that instead of being representative of 1500 each, they were only representative of 300 each... that would still be 15,000 people, and that could be as much as $225,000 per month, or $2.7 million per year. Get it? The 15,000 figure is based on the total population of the USA, and thus can NOT be correlated in any way to the population of eve, which is far less numerous (200K vs 200 mill). plus. I think they are reresentative of less than 300 each, and even if it were 300 they would not all be quiting, an many would be opposed, but adapt quite quickly. i think in eve there would be a far smaller ratio of people who do not express themselves, as there are alot of whiners in this game. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
trader2069 Caldari Ex Con Inc.	Posted - 2008.10.27 07:50:00 - [57] YAY THE NANO***S ARE QUITTING!!!! YAAAAYYY honestly i hope they all quit! it will help this game immensly. i mean seriously. i noticed a serious shift in the mentality of eve players about 2 years ago. its like all the asshats who played counterstrike and ruined it... then bf2 and ruined it finally discovered EVE. it was around the time of the NANOPHOON. and it just seemed to get progressivly worse. seriously guys. grow up. quit being such cry babies. there are other ways to pvp. adapt move on. Fly an interceptor if ya like speed.
Mr Friendly That it Should Come to This	Posted - 2008.10.27 08:30:00 - [58] I love the nano nerf simply because of the amount of tears and ragequit posts it's generating. It's like low-sec piracy, but on the forums. Awesome As for subscription losses, I guess we'll see after the patch. I have a feeling that, as usual, the ragequitters will quietly skulk back to whatever they were doing until there's another bandwagon they can jump on and whine about. Please, more tears.
nahtoh Caldari StrikerCorp Dark Trinity Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.27 11:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Death4free Originally by: Evelgrivion Numbers are nothing without a good argument to back them up. I actually haven't seen anyone make a good argument why the speed changes are detrimental to the game, I am loathe to say. well for a start... 1.ccp just caved in because too many carebears started whining. Proof you say? well the nano issue has been around for aaaages when it was a big problem with 0.0 warfare ccp didnt bat an eyeli...however when fw came out and the carebears started whining ccp caved in. 2.ccp has no moderation when it comes to nerfing its either totally nerfed or totally buffed 3.nanos are just as easy to combat as other types of fighting (blobbing, spider tanking (which is imba), smartbomb gangs. Its just that the carebears feel that just because someone spent 5 bil on pimping out a crow (implants and all) they shouldnt have an advantage over someone in a 50mil drake. And there was me thinking it was in the vein of stabs and nos...you know the fact that it was sso wide spread and one t the easir waysd to counter it was to do the damm same thing...you know the entire unblanced thing... Since the problem started when they changed some mods and it became so much easir to nano ships, problem is being fixed.


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