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Caldari Citizen20090217
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:37:00 -
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Woo Glin wrote:I'm autistic and single.
a/s/l
I scored 28 on the test.... Noooo!!! I might be one of.... them
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Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:41:00 -
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Perhaps the folk in Iceland think 'aspie' and 'sperg' means that someone comes from Aspen, Colorado, and that they are simply being 'called' for living there? |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
128
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:44:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps the folk in Iceland think 'aspie' and 'sperg' means that someone comes from Aspen, Colorado, and that they are simply being 'called' for living there?
No they wont. People outside of America now that america exists but they dont know much more. America is not the centre of the Universe Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
91
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:44:00 -
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It also doesn't help that a lot of people online use Asperger's as an excuse (often when they don't suffer from it) for being socially awkward, so people have become somewhat desensitized to it and no longer take it as seriously as they should. Mittani discussing, long before the alcohol, what his panel will be about. It is entitled "Goonswarm Hates You".-á Enjoy! Be sure to go re-read his "Apology" after listening to compare his claims. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SKC00a0ovTA#t=413s |
Kattshiro
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:53:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Kattshiro wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:[quote=Kattshiro] So mercury isn't a neurotoxin now, zippy? Thimerosal did not contain mercury?
Of course, I have to say the exact cause cited... because Rule #1 of doing the idiot roll is to never argue facts, never bring up facts, just be condescending.... like you know what you are talking about, which you don't.
But the doses were too low!
Cause, you know, one year old baby resistance to neurotoxins is honestly probably higher than a full grown mans! Just saying. Ya know. It just makes sense!
Of course, they still stopped using it. But you know, a bunch of people said it was dangerous, and then the medical industry stopped using it.
My mamma always said, were there is smoke, there certainly ain't fire! Anyone who tells you different, they probably is lying to you!
Oh, and zippy, vaccines in general.... you know, not nearly safe as you think. Normal product liability is suspended for vaccines in the United States. You want to know what *BLEEP* they replaced it with? Use google. Cool story bro. I mean it is a story. Also names not Zippy, Champ. Thanks for arguing the facts. Oh wait, I meant doing the idiot roll. Good slave! Master give good slave a cookie!
Lol my facts involve doctors and are readily available to look up. Go to itunes U and listen to the lectures on Autism. But I already know what you'll say.
Those guys (doctors or other people with PH.D's) are wrong. Those guys work for big pharma... This guy (Jenny Mcarthy says this. She got rid of autism with a colon cleanse BTW)
So what's the point in arguing with a wall? And that walls never changes it's answers or cares to look up the science?
"**** facts they disagree with me."
So call me names Zippy (usually indicative of sound mature state of mind and argument ability) , but at least im an educated slave... |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
70
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Posted - 2012.04.03 16:55:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps the folk in Iceland think 'aspie' and 'sperg' means that someone comes from Aspen, Colorado, and that they are simply being 'called' for living there? No they wont. People outside of America now that america exists but they dont know much more. America is not the centre of the Universe
Complete fail on my part. I was trying to be funny. |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
128
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:32:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Perhaps the folk in Iceland think 'aspie' and 'sperg' means that someone comes from Aspen, Colorado, and that they are simply being 'called' for living there? No they wont. People outside of America now that america exists but they dont know much more. America is not the centre of the Universe Complete fail on my part. I was trying to be funny.
+1 for being a God among men. This may be one of the few times in recorded Internet history of someone not arguing back for the sake of it. Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
22
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:33:00 -
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haven't read whole thread but I'd like to state, as a mom of an Asperger's kid, LMFAO if any of the posters actually think Aspie kids (or adults) give a **** what other people think about them Seriously, go look up the syndrome before kneejerk responsing with the typical can I haz ur stuffz comments lol
Also at OP, it's simply a side effect of social awareness of Autism and Asperger's. Regardless of which side of the fence you are on as to the ultimate causes (evolution due to computer age, genetic difference or vaccination caused), the point is that more and more people are being diagnosed with something along the spectrum. Whether that is an artifact of increase in the syndrome, or merely an increase in diagnoses, who can tell. Eventually our grandchildren might be able to after enough time has elapsed for studies to complete and be properly processed by the scientific community.
Therefore, with more people being diagnosed there has been a rise in public awareness of it as well. Look at shows featuring autistic people, or with the protrayal of autistic/asperger's people within the last ten years or so - what was once simply written off as either being a geek, nerd or a truly ******** person, is now being looked at differently. As that happens, you can watch the way humans explore the topic and their reaction to it, in the media, in games, exactly like you describe.
There are good and bad things with this exploration. Like any other topic, it's easy to be disparaging about it. New hot trends are the easiest to mock with little knowledge. At the same time, the fact that it's even there, with any resulting knowledge, is very interesting.
So, in my personal opinion, you hit the nail on the head actually; it's following either the same or a very similiar pattern to 'gay' now. Different reasons, no doubt, but look at the level of acceptance of gay as a term, still derogatory, but at the same time divorced of the origin as hatred for a sexual choice (when used as a pejorative).
Anyway way too philosophical for a game forum perhaps but still fun topic :P |
Kaitlin smithson
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.04.03 17:38:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Just want to point out that the OP didn't contain any complaints or requests for sympathy. The poster just explained his EvE resume for background and raised a topic for discussion. Come on guys, read the content before you jump to any conclusions! Poor reading and poor listening are epidemic in America (maybe elsewhere too). (BTW, dad of an autistic (not Asberger's) 12-year-old. Some simple things he struggles with, some very complicated things he's incredibly brilliant with. Completely out of the blue unique talents. Society's not used to autism yet, but eventually it will adapt. There will always be a few racists, haters, ignoramuses, asshats, whatever around, that's a given. But the overall understanding will be better).
be proud of your child sam. people don't realize that a child/children are a gift and you should be proud of what you created. we influence them to be good or bad thru TLC. unfortunately, we can't always watch them 24 hrs a day and stop the bad influences from making them do the wrong things. why would anyone want to lose their freedom and be couped up in a 10 X 10 room? I have a wonderful niece and nephew both autistic and they, too, can turn on a computer, tv, dvd player and use the remote and put on their favorite movies/shows whatever. Once they learned from watching their parents, grandmother,uncles and aunts do it, they learned to do it by themselves. we don't evenhave to change dvd's for them either. In eve you can blow my ship up to smithereens and my brains away, too, but in real life, you can never take the joy of having two wonderful members of my family away from me just because they're autistic. I'll love them to the end and give them love as long as I wander on this earth. I may not wander throughout all of eve because I'm not in any big alliances but life isn't easy. never has and never will be. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.04.03 18:48:00 -
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I notice that no one from CCP has posted in here. Probably because that would mean that they need to give some guidance on what is and what is not acceptable in terms of insults posted on the forum.
Sensible move on their part. |
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THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:09:00 -
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Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
jason hill
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
60
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:24:00 -
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well ive fuking got tourettes ....its a ******* nightmare every other word is a **** **** and bollox .... you wanna ask my corpmates my corpies just everytime i login !... its allways nice to test te profanity filter |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
63
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:36:00 -
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HTFU as said before...
Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.
Hellokittyonline... it cares. |
Hito-Shura
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.04.03 19:51:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:HTFU as said before... Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice. Hellokittyonline... it cares.
A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears. |
Josef Djugashvilis
The Scope Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.04.03 20:11:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things.
Don't give up the day job. Stick with the burger flipping.
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur
63
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Posted - 2012.04.03 20:26:00 -
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Hito-Shura wrote:supersexysucker wrote:HTFU as said before... Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice. Hellokittyonline... it cares. A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears.
Cause imma read 7 pages yes on a sad thread...
OP is a crying baby... HTFU as said...
Nice try on trolling... |
Richard Aiel
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
100
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Posted - 2012.04.03 20:32:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Bob Bedala wrote: Ask another twitter guy who profusely apologised once the Police turned up at his door and gave him a warning I'd bet that he apologized because he felt he should and needed to, not because the police visit changed his mind about what he felt. He's sorry about what he did only because he was punished for it. Just like any other criminal or celebrity that does something ******** And no, not tin-foiling about being jailed by speaking out against the government. I'll quote part of the text that I linked earlier, because you didn't read it and I want to show you that it has indeed happened: Quote:The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub.L. 65-150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds. One historian of American civil liberties has called it "the nation's most extreme antispeech legislation.
It forbade the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for 5 to 20 years. The act also allowed the Postmaster General to refuse to deliver mail that met those same standards for punishable speech or opinion. It applied only to times "when the United States is in war." It was repealed on December 13, 1920. Also, need I bring up China? What about Iran? Not only does it happen today, but it has happened since we started recording history. It can happen again - anywhere - and throwing someone in jail for a few unacceptable, distasteful (but harmless) tweets is proof of that And I do mean harmless. If as adults we're support to be able to communicate without using offensive language, then we should also be capable of not freaking out when someone else does. That doesn't make it acceptable, but they're just words and they only have the power we give to them.
wasnt there a kid that had the secret service show up cause he said something to the effect that the president should be wary of suicide bombers? I wonder why that doesnt happen to us more often? I know Ive bitched more than once about a suicide gank and usually refer to a CEO as a president cause its pretty much the same
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1052586#post1052586-á thats why "EVE is dying" and you only have yourself to blame -á |
Hito-Shura
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.04.03 21:35:00 -
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supersexysucker wrote:Hito-Shura wrote:supersexysucker wrote:HTFU as said before... Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice. Hellokittyonline... it cares. A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears. Cause imma read 7 pages yes on a sad thread... OP is a crying baby... HTFU as said... Nice try on trolling...
I think you may need to read the first post. |
THE L0CK
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
147
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Posted - 2012.04.03 21:40:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things. Don't give up the day job. Stick with the burger flipping.
U sound mad bro.
The best part is your comeback. To tell an actual cook to keep on cooking is not an insult. I doubt you could afford my seared foie gras though. In fact I doubt that you even know what it is. Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Kinroi Alari
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
18
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Posted - 2012.04.03 21:55:00 -
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Anti-Vaxxers... In EVE? OMG, where's my popcorn? This is great!!!
EDIT: Also, OP has my respect; both for posting, and for troll-wrangling without showing animosity. |
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Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
341
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:00:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really? If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive. It's disappointing to see such a brutal, and callous response to any post, or communication. I'm not going to call you out on the fact the odds of you having met enough people with Asperger's to make a group judgement are the same as the odds pigs will fly out your butt. Doing "a little" research into Asperger's (as though you're checking out carpal tunnel syndrome) can't be realistically done without background in neural function, neurology and cognitive processes. (Evidence of this is claiming ADHD and Asperger's share symptoms.) To call something "new" that was identified in the 1940s shows your "research" was little more than a cursory glance. You clearly have an axe to grind, so the odds now increase you were looking "for" something pejorative, and now you seem to believe you've found it.
Yes, there is a possibility for anyone with a condition recieving attention to use it as both a crutch and an excuse. I've seen athletic stars using their prowess in a sport as an excuse from civil behavior. I've seen phds in physics use their intelligence as a way to excuse themselves from considering other people's thoughts as having any validity, just because they're not a physicist so they shouldn't be allowed to think. As in all such behavior, lack of parental action when these tendencies show themselves are more often as not the cause of the such behaviors becoming practices, similarly to how in your post you used misleading, misapprehended, and flat-out untruth to make a divisive and condemnatory judgement. I somehow think your mind was made up before you read the facts. "How come these people with disorders get all the attention, and I don't?" (That's a disorder, too. So, you may not be as out of luck as you think.) Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
DonHel
Aliastra Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:08:00 -
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Hito-Shura wrote:I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.
And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.
Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.
And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?
My 10 year old nephew has Aspergers , There is nothing "bad" about it and nothing should make it be a derrogatory title for name calling... My nephews best friend also has Aspergers, and I am willing to bet they are smarter then 80% of the kids in thier grade, if not more. They are both in multiple advanced classes, and love computers and working with them also. My nephew plans to do almost what you went to college for, i'm proud of him. When someone makes fun of him for the way he acts sometimes or says he is "********" because they dont really know what he has just that he is different, he says " don't hate me because I'm smarter then you" hehe |
Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg
1-800-FUBAR
128
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:10:00 -
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Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.
Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.
Could you imagine him trying to play this game Standing in for Karn Dulake who was banned for saying bad words |
Hito-Shura
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:13:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.
Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.
Could you imagine him trying to play this game
I can actually handle non-personal contact very well. I'm pretty lively in the game.
However, I'm awkward when it comes to Teamspeak or vocal chats to the point where I don't say anything at all and much rather talk through fleet chat than my microphone.
And of course, real life crowds make me nervous and I just want to escape without social interaction. |
DonHel
Aliastra Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2012.04.03 22:44:00 -
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Ashley SchmidtVonGoldberg wrote:Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.
Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.
Could you imagine him trying to play this game
Rainmain would own jita |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2012.04.04 01:42:00 -
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Kattshiro wrote:Quote:
Thanks for arguing the facts. Oh wait, I meant doing the idiot roll. Good slave! Master give good slave a cookie!
Lol my facts involve doctors and are readily available to look up. Go to itunes U and listen to the lectures on Autism. But I already know what you'll say. Those guys (doctors or other people with PH.D's) are wrong. Those guys work for big pharma... This guy (Jenny Mcarthy says this. She got rid of autism with a colon cleanse BTW) So what's the point in arguing with a wall? And that walls never changes it's answers or cares to look up the science? "**** facts they disagree with me." So call me names Zippy (usually indicative of sound mature state of mind and argument ability) , but at least im an educated slave...
Projection anyone? You still haven't mentioned fact one.
Did you know that DOCTORS with PH.D's approved the lead paint idiocy?
Oh yeah, and abestos to.
Of course, they did admit they were wrong and stop using it.
These days, they just stop using it and refuse to admit that they were wrong. |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
92
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Posted - 2012.04.04 02:19:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dyner wrote:People are just jealous that Aspies are smarter than them. You just pretty much stated that you don't believe people with aspergers are people.
We're not.
We're aliens here to take over the world. |
Im Super Gay
Hedion University Amarr Empire
38
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Posted - 2012.04.04 03:18:00 -
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The essence of comedy and humor is to make fun of something: yourself or others. Jewish comedians make fun of everyone and everyone makes fun of the Jews. Black people make fun of white people and white people make fun of pretty much every non-white racial group.
Since everything is made fun of you'll eventually find something that offends you, but no one really gives a **** if you're offended so learn to deal with it and move on. |
Hito-Shura
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.04.04 04:43:00 -
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Dyner wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dyner wrote:People are just jealous that Aspies are smarter than them. You just pretty much stated that you don't believe people with aspergers are people. We're not. We're aliens here to take over the world.
Indeed.
Prepare your rears for probing. With Asperger's, I know everything there is about anal probing than other people.
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Mike712
BattleClinic
86
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Posted - 2012.04.04 05:06:00 -
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Basileus Volkan wrote:I probably shouldn't even post here but... Has it occured to you that autism got its bad rep from the roughly 9 billion self-diagnosed autistics that roam the Internet? The ones that use their "specialness" as an excuse for their stupid uneducated opinions or just to garner attention?
^this
I have aspergers/high functioning autistic spectrum disorder, got a diagnosis from medical professionals in my early teens, the rest of you antisocial nerds are just ******* sperglords.
The one thing that does annoy me is when people call it "assburgers", because despite being dyslexic I have the fairly typical autistic trait of being picky about correct spelling and grammar and saying assbergers means I will instantly categorize you as a ******* moron.
I believe deeply in equal opportunity discrimination, I think its highly hypocritical that using a racial slur will get you reprimanded but calling someone autistic or a jew is deemed okay, it should all be against the rules or contrary to that all fair game, no exceptions.
Hate hypocrisy... Regards, Mike712 The BattleClinic Team
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