I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

This is not the friendliest game in the world, simple as that... report them if you want but you are gonna have to have thicker skin in order to play.

Who said that I was quitting because people are being offensive? I know its not the friendliest game in the world. I've taken great joy of taking ships from other people by force.

Some people are just d*cks. This game breeds so much hate. It disgusts me. The only reason I still play this game is because I have 7 years invested in it, and it's hard to walk away. It's the same with the "jew" term. As if all jews are rich. Which I know for fact they are not. There is nothing wrong with you or anyone who has Aspberger's. If anything your mind is wired better for EvE then theirs, so IMHO your winning.

No, but most people don't start creating threads on the forums when something offends them (unless you are trying to metagame like the goonies).

Posting on the forums does nothing and if you have not reported the people you are complaining about then you have no right to complain.

There's no reason to report them. Am I to call the cops because someone is being a racist? This thread is just to see what others in EVE Think, not to 'BAWWWW' about being made fun of.

Have you considered joining the Goons?

They're probably compensating for some lack in their life.


Living with Asperger's for 16 years (well, parents have at least, I don't remember half of them). Though I don't feel offended when people use the terms in a derogatory sense. Maybe annoyed, a little. Faced worse in school when I was younger, so not much bothers me anymore.



Unfortunately, it has become the ADHD of the 90s. So not many non-physicians take it seriously.

Ignorance and predjudice.

And has already been stated, kids will be kids.

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

In May 2013, when the DSM 5 is put into practice, autism spectrum disorders as we know them will change radically, and many people who are now considered to be "autistic" may find themselves with a brand new diagnosis. Unless something changes between now and then, as of 2013, Asperger syndrome will no longer exist as a diagnosis.

They're probably compensating for some lack in their life.


Living with Asperger's for 16 years (well, parents have at least, I don't remember half of them). Though I don't feel offended when people use the terms in a derogatory sense. Maybe annoyed, a little. Faced worse in school when I was younger, so not much bothers me anymore.



Unfortunately, it has become the ADHD of the 90s. So not many non-physicians take it seriously.

They found a cure:



remove the disease from the books

Yeah I have/had it too

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

I have autism, and I am a constant target of ridicule and prejudice, especially by goonswarm and it's leadership.

Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

I have autism, and I am a constant target of ridicule and prejudice, especially by goonswarm and it's leadership.

They found a cure:



remove the disease from the booksYeah I have/had it too

Fun Fact, aspergers is often misdiagnosed because most doctors dont care enough to diagnose anymore (had a brother who was diagnosed with eevrything rom ADHD to some weird-ass form of autism and aroudn 30 other things over the eyars, they eventually just settled with hes weird, normal but weird)

most people who truly have asbergers are characterized (in more milder cases) with a fear/resistance to being around others,a dn an absolute hatred/distaste for human interaction, they generally exhibit an aptitude for numbers and science, remembering facts and formulas very easily, but having trouble with things such as names and faces.

In myc ase as a kid, i learned reading very early, was into college-level astronomy and cience by 3rd grade, reacted VIOLENTLY to face-to-face interaction with others, and was unable to express any kind of emotion for years. 9 eyars alter, i still have trouble with emotion, but i can read people a little better (still ahve trouble with telling when soemone is joking when they say soemthing if im not looking at them).

though aspergers has several identifying characteristics, the reason it is so widely diagnosed now is that it cn manifest in many levels, some aspects ebing severe, others not.

In my town there are even alot of computer programming and development agencies, one even specializing in internet-security, who hire almost exclusively asbergers teens and young adults, sicne they take to coding and monitoring data-streams easier then other people.

Well hell, you just described me with the exception of the numbers. I got C's on my last few math classes but it required a ton of notes, tutor's, and hopeful guesses. I live far away from everybody. Don't like going out much. Don't even like to leave my lab if I can help it. But I just attributed all that to a ****** childhood in jr and high school. I just chalk it all up to being a self proclaimed introvert.
I'm a ADD diagnosed person though. At least that is what they told my parents when I was around 13. Parents also tell me I was hell to get talking, used to just grunt for everything. Put me on the Ritalin for several years and turned me into a zombie. Father remove me from it because he didn't like what it did. I have a tendency to space out a lot, especially during meetings, but I've gotten much better at it over the years.
I'm also a bit of a believer that Aspergers is the syndrome of the decade. Couldn't imagine a room full of these guys, all sitting there hating to be next to each other.

most people who truly have asbergers are characterized (in more milder cases) with a fear/resistance to being around others,a dn an absolute hatred/distaste for human interaction, they generally exhibit an aptitude for numbers and science, remembering facts and formulas very easily, but having trouble with things such as names and faces.

Agree: 2,4,5,6,7,9,12,13,16,19,22,23,26,33,35,39,41,42,43,45,46: 1 point
Disagree: 10,11,15,17,24,25,27,28,29,31,34,36,38,44,47,48,49: 1 point
Score: 38

Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

as for the test




Is that good or bad?

as for the test




Is that good or bad?

in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Ps.
Explore yourself.

in the 90s no one heard of autism, assburgers and many other diseases

SUDDENLY 2010!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zomg 9 in 10 people have autism
just like the obesity "epidemic" suddenly everyone has a disease that no one heard of 10 or 20 years ago.

my advice, try and be like the 90s was because maybe its the food people eat and the way they don't exercise as much.
eat fatty foods like we did in the 80s and 90s, play outside every day or so
turn off your cell phone for a few hours a day ect.

If you want to bat this ball around...I raised an eight-year old with Asperger's to (he's now) 22 years old. He was an honor grad in high school. Made the Dean's List in undergrad. He's now in graduate-level physics.

When I first became a parental authority "over" this kid, I was told he was high-functioning autistic, with Asperger's Syndrome. But, I'd raised two other children to adulthood by then, so I figured I'd had some experience with kids with which to make better than average observations. It wasn't long before it dawned on me the kid didn't have a disorder. He was just different. He processes information differently than "normal" people. And, most normal people today find it difficult to process information at all.

What is stunning is his memory and recall ability. He can quote me exactly from the age he was eight to today. I hate it when kids say, "But, you said..." It's even worse when they get it right. Getting it right EVERY TIME is a bit unnerving. However, it has to be marked if someone is 100% accurate in recall. Another thing I noticed is he didn't require a lot of background to dive into some rather deep subjects, which involved juggling half a dozen or more bits of information, including the plethora of extrapolations with variables that ensue. "Normal" kids required a bit of a refresher to bring them back up to speed on what was previously discussed in order to progress with a discussion.

(Discussing what? Oh, simple things like: Is the physical universe comprised entirely of waves, and do our misapprehensions create in our imaginations the existence of "matter?" Where in the universe does consciousness actually reside? What exactly is occuring during the cognitive process? Simple stuff...are humans eternally entrapped in self-imposed ignorance using warfare as a passtime as a result; a fear-based compensation?)

During his public school days he was eternally bullied and picked on. The "normal" kids targeted him early and constantly. This, of course, gave me ample ground to cover "how the self-doubting, herd mentality drives the behavior of individuals being initiated into a self-willed competitive society when their nature as a social species is cooperative, and how that is the root of abherrent behavior, such as putting others down to elevate themselves." The good stuff.

He's unable to read facial expressions and vocal inflections and how they signify an added meaning to what people say. If you say something sarcastically, he takes it literally. Of course, some things like smiling aren't a problem. Figuring out if someone's angry is a bit more difficult. Oddly enough, while being ill-treated by the average American schoolchild, they always smiled. That could get confusing. What amazes me most about him is he harbors no ill will toward anyone regardless of it all. He's literally the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. Though, he's learned his lesson well from me, he doesn't have to take any crap off of anyone. Since he's six-foot four and weighs a muscular 250 pounds, I wouldn't want to be the one on whom he finally unloads that right-cross I taught him. Ow.

I wish I could agree that "ignorance" covers this behavior you see. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. This sort of aggression is used as a social ladder in this society. There are cheers and pats on the back...knowing lulz...as it's being done. I suggest you not concern yourself with it. Enjoy the game. Let the stupidity roll down your back, as you seem to do. They aren't gonna change for themselves. They certainly won't change for you.

Could also be the fact that they re examined the guidelines of what exactly autism is. They broaden it and surprise! More people were diagnosed.

It's like if you cast a larger net you can catch more fish!
Even CDC reports reflect this in plain English... "Dear public vaccines do not cause autism... The reason more people have autism is because they redefined what it is, and who fits under it"... Seriously go look up how general the definition is now.

IT MUST BE SOMETHING IN THE AIR!!!

/sigh...

Lots of people claim that they are assholes in game but they are not assholes out of game.

I think these sort of discriminatory comments demonstrate that is not the case.

So Mittens tells some guy to end it and in the ensuing marathon of soapboxing we decide to be guilt-ridden into airing all our PC laundry?

Who the **** cares that you have aspergers? Don't make a point of bringing it up and its not an issue. I'm sure over half of the retreads in this game probably partially qualify themselves. People are going to talk **** about everything, so just ignore it and move on.

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

People are just jealous that Aspies are smarter than them.

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland

You may have survived Cleveland. You may have escaped from New York. But, this is L.A., vato. And, you're about to find out that this ******* city can kill anybody!

It's actually really simple.

People ridicule or hate what they don't understand. It's easier than getting to know the unknown.

Those who resort to names like Spacejew, *****, Sperg etc are nothing more than morally handicapped people with a severe lack of the human genome.
Most of them you reckognize by them dragging their knuckles over the ground while walking.

I may have Aspergers - most of my family thinks I do - and I function effectivly in the real world but a bit differently than most people.
And I would guess that high functioning autism is a common condition to find in EVE as opposed to other places on the internet.

But dont start being pouty about it being an insult when its used as a metaphor. Its bad enough that so many gay guys cry about this.
The truth is some of us do behave differently than most people, its noticeable and its makes sense to use it as a metaphor. Lets just deal with it.

So mercury isn't a neurotoxin now, zippy? Thimerosal did not contain mercury?

Of course, I have to say the exact cause cited... because Rule #1 of doing the idiot roll is to never argue facts, never bring up facts, just be condescending.... like you know what you are talking about, which you don't.

But the doses were too low!

Cause, you know, one year old baby resistance to neurotoxins is honestly probably higher than a full grown mans! Just saying. Ya know. It just makes sense!

Of course, they still stopped using it. But you know, a bunch of people said it was dangerous, and then the medical industry stopped using it.

My mamma always said, were there is smoke, there certainly ain't fire! Anyone who tells you different, they probably is lying to you!

Oh, and zippy, vaccines in general.... you know, not nearly safe as you think. Normal product liability is suspended for vaccines in the United States. You want to know what *BLEEP* they replaced it with? Use google.

Holy moly whats it like to have a family full of clinical psychologists who have diagnosed you.

Also, just to add, my impression is that one does not simply live in Cleveland; one survives there.

*(A quick online search tells me that World Autism Awareness Day was on Monday, which supports the above analysis).

C.

Wait. It was? When was this? Where was I when this happened?

If you want to bat this ball around...I raised an eight-year old with Asperger's to (he's now) 22 years old. He was an honor grad in high school. Made the Dean's List in undergrad. He's now in graduate-level physics.

When I first became a parental authority "over" this kid, I was told he was high-functioning autistic, with Asperger's Syndrome. But, I'd raised two other children to adulthood by then, so I figured I'd had some experience with kids with which to make better than average observations. It wasn't long before it dawned on me the kid didn't have a disorder. He was just different. He processes information differently than "normal" people. And, most normal people today find it difficult to process information at all.

What is stunning is his memory and recall ability. He can quote me exactly from the age he was eight to today. I hate it when kids say, "But, you said..." It's even worse when they get it right. Getting it right EVERY TIME is a bit unnerving. However, it has to be marked if someone is 100% accurate in recall. Another thing I noticed is he didn't require a lot of background to dive into some rather deep subjects, which involved juggling half a dozen or more bits of information, including the plethora of extrapolations with variables that ensue. "Normal" kids required a bit of a refresher to bring them back up to speed on what was previously discussed in order to progress with a discussion.

(Discussing what? Oh, simple things like: Is the physical universe comprised entirely of waves, and do our misapprehensions create in our imaginations the existence of "matter?" Where in the universe does consciousness actually reside? What exactly is occuring during the cognitive process? Simple stuff...are humans eternally entrapped in self-imposed ignorance using warfare as a passtime as a result; a fear-based compensation?)

During his public school days he was eternally bullied and picked on. The "normal" kids targeted him early and constantly. This, of course, gave me ample ground to cover "how the self-doubting, herd mentality drives the behavior of individuals being initiated into a self-willed competitive society when their nature as a social species is cooperative, and how that is the root of abherrent behavior, such as putting others down to elevate themselves." The good stuff.

He's unable to read facial expressions and vocal inflections and how they signify an added meaning to what people say. If you say something sarcastically, he takes it literally. Of course, some things like smiling aren't a problem. Figuring out if someone's angry is a bit more difficult. Oddly enough, while being ill-treated by the average American schoolchild, they always smiled. That could get confusing. What amazes me most about him is he harbors no ill will toward anyone regardless of it all. He's literally the nicest person you'd ever want to meet. Though, he's learned his lesson well from me, he doesn't have to take any crap off of anyone. Since he's six-foot four and weighs a muscular 250 pounds, I wouldn't want to be the one on whom he finally unloads that right-cross I taught him. Ow.

I wish I could agree that "ignorance" covers this behavior you see. Unfortunately, it's not that simple. This sort of aggression is used as a social ladder in this society. There are cheers and pats on the back...knowing lulz...as it's being done. I suggest you not concern yourself with it. Enjoy the game. Let the stupidity roll down your back, as you seem to do. They aren't gonna change for themselves. They certainly won't change for you.

I think you were busy counting stuff.

Just stick to your burger flipping and you will be fine.

You should stick to flipping burgers.

Cool story bro. I mean it is a story.

Also names not Zippy, Champ.

Remember, you can always ignore people who offend you. This is just a game.

LOLWUT You in the wrong thread son, this is for the assburgers, victims of Alzheimer is down the hall. Don't worry, I'll keep flipping the bergers in here.

I wouldn't let it bother you, I know that sounds trite, but it's really the best thing you can do. And actually, being in my 20's in the 90's. I can recall the use of the word "gay" as meaning something lame etc... Even though it sounds like it was slur of gay people, most people I knew were VERY liberal minded that used it and hung out with gay ppl quite often.

Thing is, I just don't think you can train or force people to use only language that is unoffensive to everyone. There is always going to be something offensive to someone.

Best thing you can do is block em, report em if you find it necessary (if they are personally attacking you), or best yet, ignore them.

Btw, your portrait is awesome.

Some people are just d*cks. This game breeds so much hate. It disgusts me.

we have a fine tradition of ****-taking in the UK

QFT

About two weeks ago a student in the UK was jailed for 56 days for making racist tweets on Twitter (an equally public forum in legal terms, I would expect). [...] I understand that if you were raised in the US, under the age of 21 and hang out on certain internet forums you may believe that that kind of behaviour is acceptable.

"Extracting the urine" does not fall under the above law.

We just don't feel the need for the government to censor our speech. It opens the door to a lot of future government abuse.

Hate speech could eventually start to cover "anything negative about the government"

Legislation can't affect the way people think, it only punishes them for what they do (if they get caught)

The "ohforpeetssakes" award thread of the day

Well I guess the bathroom pub bandit in Birmingham can have a sigh of relief

Kaitlin smithson][quote=Hito-Shura]I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?[/quote


who knows bro? all I know is I have a niece and nephew with autism and it's sad that they have it but it brings a "normal" being to tears seeing how they can do things still that other kids can do. Congrats for your achievements in life. I guess some people are fortunate enough in life not to have any relatives or loved ones with any conditions such as autism. I've seen it all in life from relatives and friends dying of all types of cancer, ALS aka Lou Gehrig's disease and other ailments besides the unfortunate accidents in combat and regular life.
I don't wish it upon anyone but the world needs to wake up and smell the roses because it may hit them one day and won't they feel like **** for mocking it.

Ask another twitter guy who profusely apologised once the Police turned up at his door and gave him a warning

The Sedition Act of 1918 (Pub.L. 65-150, 40 Stat. 553, enacted May 16, 1918) was an Act of the United States Congress that extended the Espionage Act of 1917 to cover a broader range of offenses, notably speech and the expression of opinion that cast the government or the war effort in a negative light or interfered with the sale of government bonds. One historian of American civil liberties has called it "the nation's most extreme antispeech legislation.

It forbade the use of "disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language" about the United States government, its flag, or its armed forces or that caused others to view the American government or its institutions with contempt. Those convicted under the act generally received sentences of imprisonment for 5 to 20 years. The act also allowed the Postmaster General to refuse to deliver mail that met those same standards for punishable speech or opinion. It applied only to times "when the United States is in war." It was repealed on December 13, 1920.

Lawyers don't really see that as an acceptable counter

UK laws regarding what you can say on broadcast media are more "free" than the US (I assume you are referring to the US), so, no

I'd bet that he apologized because he felt he should and needed to, not because the police visit changed his mind about what he felt

And no, not tin-foiling about being jailed by speaking out against the government. I'll quote part of the text that I linked earlier, because you didn't read it and I want to show you that it has indeed happened:

And I do mean harmless. If as adults we're support to be able to communicate without using offensive language, then we should also be capable of not freaking out when someone else does. That doesn't make it acceptable, but they're just words and they only have the power we give to them.

I probably shouldn't even post here but... Has it occured to you that autism got its bad rep from the roughly 9 billion self-diagnosed autistics that roam the Internet? The ones that use their "specialness" as an excuse for their stupid uneducated opinions or just to garner attention?

This. really i mean this.


I have two degrees in psychology and know a lot about psychopathology and the above comment could not be more astute.

I'm autistic and single.

Perhaps the folk in Iceland think 'aspie' and 'sperg' means that someone comes from Aspen, Colorado, and that they are simply being 'called' for living there?

Thanks for arguing the facts. Oh wait, I meant doing the idiot roll. Good slave! Master give good slave a cookie!

No they wont. People outside of America now that america exists but they dont know much more. America is not the centre of the Universe

Complete fail on my part. I was trying to be funny.

Just want to point out that the OP didn't contain any complaints or requests for sympathy. The poster just explained his EvE resume for background and raised a topic for discussion. Come on guys, read the content before you jump to any conclusions! Poor reading and poor listening are epidemic in America (maybe elsewhere too).

(BTW, dad of an autistic (not Asberger's) 12-year-old. Some simple things he struggles with, some very complicated things he's incredibly brilliant with. Completely out of the blue unique talents. Society's not used to autism yet, but eventually it will adapt. There will always be a few racists, haters, ignoramuses, asshats, whatever around, that's a given. But the overall understanding will be better).

Tears

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.

Would be great if the mods came along and nuked this silly thread. People get offended over the smallest things.

A pretty poor troll. It would help for you to actually point out which post has tears.

I'd bet that he apologized because he felt he should and needed to, not because the police visit changed his mind about what he felt. He's sorry about what he did only because he was punished for it. Just like any other criminal or celebrity that does something ********

And no, not tin-foiling about being jailed by speaking out against the government. I'll quote part of the text that I linked earlier, because you didn't read it and I want to show you that it has indeed happened:Also, need I bring up China? What about Iran? Not only does it happen today, but it has happened since we started recording history. It can happen again - anywhere - and throwing someone in jail for a few unacceptable, distasteful (but harmless) tweets is proof of that

And I do mean harmless. If as adults we're support to be able to communicate without using offensive language, then we should also be capable of not freaking out when someone else does. That doesn't make it acceptable, but they're just words and they only have the power we give to them.

Cause imma read 7 pages yes on a sad thread...

OP is a crying baby... HTFU as said...

Nice try on trolling...

Don't give up the day job.
Stick with the burger flipping.

Man are we scraping the barrel or what with all this pc stuff. Not so sure about this one though. I've seen our wonderful starred word ******** used often but autistic? Really?
If anything more often than not I see the autistic people using their autism as a crutch (both in game and out), and when I say autistic people I really mean specifically the Asperger crowd. I've come to liken them to the ADHD's, who back in the 90's appeared to be every 1 out of 2 people. In fact I did a little research on Aspergers recently as I've been hearing the term more and more and it turns out that it and ADHD has quite an abundance of similar symptoms. Now I can't help but wonder if Aspergers is the new craze for Doctors who want to drug you with something new and expensive.

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game

Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game

Lol my facts involve doctors and are readily available to look up. Go to itunes U and listen to the lectures on Autism. But I already know what you'll say.

Those guys (doctors or other people with PH.D's) are wrong. Those guys work for big pharma... This guy (Jenny Mcarthy says this. She got rid of autism with a colon cleanse BTW)

So what's the point in arguing with a wall? And that walls never changes it's answers or cares to look up the science?

"**** facts they disagree with me."

So call me names Zippy (usually indicative of sound mature state of mind and argument ability) , but at least im an educated slave...

You just pretty much stated that you don't believe people with aspergers are people.

We're not.

We're aliens here to take over the world.

I probably shouldn't even post here but... Has it occured to you that autism got its bad rep from the roughly 9 billion self-diagnosed autistics that roam the Internet? The ones that use their "specialness" as an excuse for their stupid uneducated opinions or just to garner attention?

HTFU as said before...

Wow cry much? Find another game... get into the real world... learn everyone is not nice.

Hellokittyonline... it cares.

I too take online tests that tell me I have assburgers.

I too take online tests that tell me I have assburgers.

Well, I know I have Asperger's but I don't really parade it around and use it to explain my behavior. That's why I'm using an alt to do so to not only protect my real EVE identity but also to protect my corp and alliance.

Heck, it took a great deal of thinking and willpower to actually post this thread.

It is, I feel, rather different to say it up front, and to ask people to let you know if your behavior offends, so you can attempt to fix it - and to only say it after they are offended, implying that they just have to take whatever it is, because you can do nothing to help it. I've seen both types. First ones are just fine, the second category... meh.

Oh, I was thinking of a third type. The ones who are asses, and when probed, it is found they do not even have a diagnosis and they have never been around the doctor's office. They end up creating huge threadageddons, insulting everyone in the proces, and when people have had it, they say "But I have Aspergers.... i think". They ruin it immensely for people with actual Aspergers.

People are ignorant towards things they do not understand or have personal experience with. Like making fun of someone for the colour of their skin or their sexuality making fun of someone with Asperger's is essentially a proof of ones own insecurities. Some people feel the need to do so in order to feel better about themselves.

It can be hurtful, yes, but I can almost guarantee that if you sat down with that same person 'making fun' of you and asked him some serious questions about Asperger's he would sound so ignorant you would wonder why you cared what this person thought in the first place.

Oh, I was thinking of a third type. The ones who are asses, and when probed, it is found they do not even have a diagnosis and they have never been around the doctor's office. They end up creating huge threadageddons, insulting everyone in the proces, and when people have had it, they say "But I have Aspergers.... i think". They ruin it immensely for people with actual Aspergers.

I identified online as having Aspergers for years before I got an official diagnosis. If you read the wiki on it you will see direct mention of how people with it often self-diagnose before the doctor can even figure it out because we are such private people and do not know how to always express the right things for the doctor to make a proper diagnosis.



Asperger's falls under a wide spectrum. If you met me in real life you would not be able to tell I have Asperger's because my case is so mild. I do not have so much problems with being "too honest" like you have experience with. It becomes a pretty complex issue because the types of people who have it are so varied



I would go "I have no opinion on how those lightblue spandex hotpants make you look because I do not really think in those terms."

Just because you are socially awkward and prefer to be alone so that you dont have to be crushed in yet another social encounter does not make you Autistic.

Most of you have no idea what its like. It does not make you a loner who plays by his own rules. It makes ******* rain man.


Could you imagine him trying to play this game

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?

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I have aspergers/high functioning autistic spectrum disorder, got a diagnosis from medical professionals in my early teens

I've been playing EVE Online for almost 2 years now. I've had my hand in almost every aspect of EVE during the time I've played it. I was a highsec carebear, running Level 4 missions. I did some time in Nullsec, being part of the blob. I have been a pirate in lowsec, attacking ships ranging from Carriers to their cyno alts, both solo and in a gang. I've even lived in a wormhole for some time. I am a 26 year old male living in Cleveland, Ohio in the USA, graduated from college twice with a BS in Computer Animation and Design with a Masters in Technology, focused on Quality Assurance and Control.

And I have autism. Asperger's Syndrome, to be exact.

Lately, though, I have noticed that there has been an increase in the use of the word autism. Its been somewhat disturbing to me that its been mostly used in a derogatory way. Anyone who is a highsec carebear n00b pubbie is autistic or heck, even when Goons were interdicting Gallente ice, I've noticed talk about 'Using Aspergers to camp the belts for miners'.

And I'm wondering why is this so? Why is being autistic bad all the sudden? Is it the new 'gay' from the 90s? Can someone explain it to me? Is it just EVE Online or is it ranging all the games on the internet?