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DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1063
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Posted - 2012.04.03 03:57:00 -
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Hey everybody, In the fanfest ship balancing presentation, there was a chart shown with all the T1/T2/T3/Faction ships, colour-coded according to how CCP sees them. Red = Broken Yellow = Semi-broken Green = Working as intended
Unfortunately, the names of the ships were kept hidden. Fortunately, the structure was kept intact, allowing me to discern all of the hidden ships!
All races (hidden): http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9098/baseao.png Revealed Amarr chart: http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/7751/amarr.png
Now then, I don't have enough time to do a fancy reveal of all the races, but the structure remains the same. You should be able to figure out the other races for yourself!
Here are some very quick insights, from the other races: Tengu: Working as intended Proteus: Broken Loki: Semi-broken All Black Ops ships: Broken Falcon: Semi-broken All tier-1 battlecruisers: Semi-broken
So, what do you think about CCP's opinion of the current ship balance? It's all subject to change, so share your opinion. |
Enkryption
Intergalactic Pool Boys
7
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Posted - 2012.04.03 04:14:00 -
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Wondered why they needed a panel to tell everyone what they already knew. |
JamesCLK
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
159
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Posted - 2012.04.03 04:18:00 -
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So apparently the Merlin is broken but the-
/suddenly Kestrels, hundreds of them. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1376
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Posted - 2012.04.03 04:20:00 -
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JamesCLK wrote:So apparently the Merlin is broken but the-
/suddenly Kestrels, hundreds of them.
..... Because of Kestrel .. I remember that meme.
Sorry for spam* |
Koban Agalder
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
0
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:01:00 -
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It's very funny that Naglfar is marked as OK. |
Doggy Dogwoofwoof
Doggy Missions
14
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:07:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:[quote=JamesCLK]
Sorry for spam*
Spam was made... BECAUSE OF KESTREL. |
Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
92
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:10:00 -
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I don't quite understand how they missed the Nid and Chimera, they really aren't even close to equal. |
Alain Kinsella
100
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:41:00 -
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I don't see the issue with the normal Omen. At low skills you can run a 4-turret config, then at higher skills graduate to a 5-turret setup (5 high-end Beams can be tricky IIRC). I grew into that ship rather nicely actually.
Same with the Sigil. Smaller and agile, a nice step down from an Impel if you're just doing casual shuffling things about (like a bunch of P1s from a planet). And it was free if you did the career tutorials. What's not to like?
Maller and Aug I can understand being a problem. Never seen much of a use for those. I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
408
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Posted - 2012.04.03 05:46:00 -
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Hmm, supercarriers and titans: only half-broken. Not bad. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
17
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:05:00 -
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Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. |
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Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:10:00 -
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Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. Same here... damn shame, I was planning on buying one in the somewhat near future too. |
Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt
State War Academy Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:18:00 -
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Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now.
What drone changes?? |
Farang Lo
State War Academy Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:22:00 -
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cant understand why proteus is broken, loki is ok, legion is really really broken |
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:23:00 -
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Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. What drone changes?? They plan on adding salvaging drones. |
marVLs
2
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:23:00 -
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Are You F... Kidding me? Golem on green?
I don't want to live on this planet anymore... |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
1063
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:24:00 -
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Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. What drone changes?? Salvage drones |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2040
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:26:00 -
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Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. What drone changes??
There are several drone user buffs coming, but I'm guessing he refers to the introduction of salvage drones. |
Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:32:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. What drone changes?? There are several drone user buffs coming, but I'm guessing he refers to the introduction of salvage drones. There are several changes to drones, but the ones that are relevant to marauders are salvage drones. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1435
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:33:00 -
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The chart was definitely made prior to the AF buff. They have the Harpy as "broken" and I doubt they mean it in the "OMGLOLOP" way that it is now.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
17
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:35:00 -
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The ones i were referring too was the addition of a bounty to the drones. |
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Nedes Betternaem
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:40:00 -
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Xurr wrote:The ones i were referring too was the addition of a bounty to the drones. Eh... I guess if you live in drone space that might be important. Otherwise, I still think salvage drones will do more to lower demand for marauders than the removal of rogue drone mineral drops. |
Xurr
Angelic Insurrection Corp
17
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Posted - 2012.04.03 06:49:00 -
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Well for mission running the only time i'd consider a marauder is for the drone missions. Unless they are only changing the drone region drones, not the mission ones.
For infiltrated outposts and that convoy one i currently blitz them with my nightmare. With a marauder they might be worth looting. If drones get bounties i just don't see the point in ever taking out a marauder. |
Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
47
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Posted - 2012.04.03 07:02:00 -
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Confirming Arbitrator is the only Amarr cruiser worth flying for a newbie :D
The Omen is too difficult to fit for a ship that should probably be considered the 'step up' for Amarr lazor users. Why not train directly for a Harby?
I do not understand why one of the Amarrian recons is marked in red? Both appear to be good ships. (I M NUB)
The Naug, like the Prophecy, is tank and not much more. |
Dato Koppla
Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.04.03 07:08:00 -
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Weird about the Pilgrim, I always though it was one of the premier cloaky ships to uncloak on unsuspecting noobs and neut them to hell and set drones on em.
Yeah recon changes puzzle me a little, they marked one of the Caldari recons as yellow as well, probably the Rook but I don't see what they can do to fix that. |
Donedy
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.04.03 08:00:00 -
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Proteus is broken? oO I dunno what they mean by "broken", but im a bit affraid. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
116
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Posted - 2012.04.03 09:15:00 -
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Nedes Betternaem wrote:Xurr wrote:Its a bit interesting they consider all the marauders to be fine.
With the coming drone changes i see them losing what little value they have now. Same here... damn shame, I was planning on buying one in the somewhat near future too.
If you're planning on flying them eventually, now is probably the best time to buy them. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Tobiaz/sig_complaints.gif
How about fixing image-linking on the forums, CCP? I want to see signatures! |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
95
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Posted - 2012.04.03 09:39:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Hmm, supercarriers and titans: only half-broken. Not bad.
Well technically titans and SC aren't broken, theres just too damn many of them. |
ElQuirko
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
491
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Posted - 2012.04.03 09:42:00 -
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I'd like to know how the ships are broken - the proteus fills a very nice high dps/massive buffer role, as well as (post-crucible) being quite a nice active tanker. Could do with being a bit faster, but that's my only complaint. Don't hurt my proteus!
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Gnidex
Eclectic Electric
6
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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:09:00 -
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I'm surprised they think the Sacrilege is fine. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
404
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Posted - 2012.04.03 10:21:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:I'd like to know how the ships are broken - the proteus fills a very nice high dps/massive buffer role, as well as (post-crucible) being quite a nice active tanker. Could do with being a bit faster, but that's my only complaint. Don't hurt my proteus!
I would guess they refer to it's complete uselesness in PVE, after all the T3s should be versatile and adaptable to various roles. Proteus is imo a pure PVP ship, but yeah, is pretty damn nice in that role.
Myrmidon needs to be rated as semi-borked, though.
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