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Bayushi Kitsuke Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:41:00 - [1] I'm thinking of trying out Amarr ships, however most of my skills lean towards shield tanking. So, I present you all a challenge. - Make a effective shield tanking Amarr ship set up. Everything from frigs to battleships. What ship would be better as a shield tank if any.
Khraunus Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:45:00 - [2] Arbitrator with 4x extenders, 4x power diagnostics. Have fun! Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or my signature?
CherniyVolk Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:55:00 - [3] Shield tanking an Amarr ship works because your lasers pwn anything regardless. Thanks CCP! 88% resists in EM and Thermal? That ain't gonna fly, 'Amarr n00b laser barely strikes you for 450 damage and CCP has a laugh'. Infact, you can do anything else you want with an Amarr ship. Retribution? Yeah, slap a Warp Scram in that one mid slot... CCP empowered you with 'better than T2 Blaster + Faction Ammo + Drones + everyone has less EM resists' DPS in your T1 lasers AND you have ridiculous range too. You can simply replace your tank with a sticker of AT&T 'reach out and touch someone'. Just don't worry about it. Nothing can tank your lasers long enough for a tank to matter anyways. Do what everyone else does, train T2 lasers (nothing else) put one on your frig, and kill any Battleship with one shot.
Khraunus Amarr Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2008.10.28 04:57:00 - [4] Originally by: CherniyVolk Shield tanking an Amarr ship works because your lasers pwn anything regardless. Thanks CCP! 88% resists in EM and Thermal? That ain't gonna fly, 'Amarr n00b laser barely strikes you for 450 damage and CCP has a laugh'. Infact, you can do anything else you want with an Amarr ship. Retribution? Yeah, slap a Warp Scram in that one mid slot... CCP empowered you with 'better than T2 Blaster + Faction Ammo + Drones + everyone has less EM resists' DPS in your T1 lasers AND you have ridiculous range too. You can simply replace your tank with a sticker of AT&T 'reach out and touch someone'. Just don't worry about it. Nothing can tank your lasers long enough for a tank to matter anyways. Do what everyone else does, train T2 lasers (nothing else) put one on your frig, and kill any Battleship with one shot. Did an amarrian **** in your coffee for the past 6 months?
Artemis Rose Varion Galactic Accord Corporate Enterprise Syndicate	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:14:00 - [5] I've seen all sorts of nano'd, shield buffered, missile Curse setups. Could start there.... *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
SuperSarge Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:31:00 - [6] nightmare ?
Joss Sparq Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Khraunus Did an amarrian **** in your coffee for the past 6 months? Well, everything else they do is golden, so ...
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.10.28 05:43:00 - [8] Originally by: SuperSarge nightmare ? Isn't technically amarr? Really the nightmare is probably the PERFECT PVP ship, if it weren't for it's staggering price. It can deliver upwards of 1k DPS, and the favored shield tank layout can be setup to absorb more than 1500 DPS of damage a second, all while maintaining at least a minimum level of tackle. It's got brutal damage and a tremendously thick tank. I guess it has to be awesome, otherwise people wouldn't pay the 900 million isk that seems to be the common asking price.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.28 09:17:00 - [9] [Armageddon, shield] Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Overdrive Injector System II Co-Processor II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Overdrive Injector System II X-Large 'Locomotive' Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L E500 Prototype Energy Vampire Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Ogre II x5 thats 600 dps with my skills, have fun
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.28 09:30:00 - [10] Originally by: Gneeznow [Armageddon, shield] Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Overdrive Injector System II Co-Processor II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Overdrive Injector System II X-Large 'Locomotive' Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon I, Caldari Navy Uranium Charge L E500 Prototype Energy Vampire Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Ogre II x5 thats 600 dps with my skills, have fun this is over 9000 times less awesome than the l0rpion gneez
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.28 10:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Terianna Eri this is over 9000 times less awesome than the l0rpion gneez only thing that comes close to being as awesome as the l0rp1on is the blasterbird or fallofferox or the hamrook, hell those caldari sure have some cool ships
Elias Modron Rage For Order Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.10.28 10:31:00 - [12] What's a l0rpion?
Bayushi Kitsuke Gallente	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:05:00 - [13] Hey guys, thanks a lot for the replies. What's your experiences with shield tanking with Amarr? Are any of the ships better off with shield tanking? ============================================= This is your future, Drake PvPers. -Dirk Magnum ===================
Panglossian	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:13:00 - [14] To the EFTmobile! [Apocalypse, shield tanked neutpoc] Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I Damage Control II Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 Kills 200 cap/s or 4800 cap in one "volley" :) runs everything permanently
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Bayushi Kitsuke Hey guys, thanks a lot for the replies. What's your experiences with shield tanking with Amarr? Are any of the ships better off with shield tanking? No, not really. The only two that might have a good time with it are the Curse (six mids, don't really have to use TDs to be good) but that's more of a buffer tank than anything else, and the Harbinger (cheap EHP with extenders and resist rigs, but it's the worst BC for getting fit like that). The tech 1 ships don't really gain anything from being shield tanked and it doesn't get better with T2 - amarr T2 racial resists are badass for armor tanking but pretty much worthless on shield. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Dorah Hawkwing Armada.	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:31:00 - [16] Amarr ships where a shield tank defenitely improves performance: Sigil, Bestower Amarr Ships wich can get a good shield tank going: Curse, Arbitrator Curse can get 12k+ shield HP's, arbi can fit an xl-booster and feed it via NOS in close orbit while the drones do magic. At least it's a surprise fit. Melts fast under zealot fire though.
TimMc Gallente The Motley Crew	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:33:00 - [17] Amarr have so few mid slots and lasers use so much cap, you'll rarely find a way to shield tank them (except obvious shield buffer tanks on nanoships).
Felix Dzerzhinsky Caldari Wreckless Abandon G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.10.28 12:35:00 - [18] Shield tanking Amarr ships. . .no Can it be done? Sure. would you want to? Why. . . its not like you gain anything, infact, you are simply killing your setup. Its a bit idiotic to fit a ship that has a lot more armor and bonus' for tanking that. AC Punishers and prophesies are ok because they don't get lazer bonus' - but when it comes to ignorring the advantages all amarr ships have in armor tanking. . .no doing so is reserved for very few ships that can really take advantage of it. . .but they don't shield 'tank', they either speed tank (nano zelot), or use a small shield buffer (nano curse). . .thats really about it. . . ---- ECCM is a Counter-measure not a defense.
FT Diomedes Gallente Ductus Exemplo	Posted - 2008.10.28 14:09:00 - [19] Apart from the Curse, I wouldn't bother. ------------ Improvize. Adapt. Overcome. Selling Gallente, Minmatar and SoE faction goodies (including Virtue implants). I am looking for a good 0.0 corp/alliance. Convo if interested.
Maephista	Posted - 2008.10.28 14:25:00 - [20] Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky Its a bit idiotic to fit a ship that has a lot more armor and bonus' for tanking that. Shield tabked Myrmidon says... NO
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.10.28 15:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Elias Modron What's a l0rpion? a scorpion with lasers
InsanlyEvlPerson Gallente Night-Stalkers	Posted - 2008.10.28 16:20:00 - [22] its amarrian, it shield tanks, and could run lvl 3 missions, thats about it. use whatever droens you feel most useful, and feel free to change the highs out for whatever you can fit. 14k shield HP, 170ish peak regen, max skills. [Arbitrator, Shields] Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S Medium Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Assault Missile [empty high slot] Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I --------------------------------------------- I may be a bit over Zealot, but i cant help myself, its the best investment i ever made!
Shereza	Posted - 2008.10.28 20:24:00 - [23] Shield-tanking the curse for missions works a charm. THe first setup is a variation of something I've used to solo L4s with and the second is a new one I'm considering trying. [Curse, Test] Damage Control II Co-Processor II Ballistic Control System II Power Diagnostic System II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Booster II Heat Dissipation Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] Hammerhead II x5 [Curse, New Setup 3] Ballistic Control System II Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Overdrive Injector System II 10MN Afterburner II Medium Shield Booster II Heat Dissipation Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Cap Recharger II Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Torrent Assault Missile Medium Nosferatu II Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Hammerhead II x5 ____________________ Minmatar in Fantasy or Duct Tape Goes Medieval.
Daergaar	Posted - 2008.10.28 21:13:00 - [24] Originally by: CherniyVolk <snip> Nothing can tank your lasers long enough for a tank to matter anyways. Do what everyone else does, train T2 lasers (nothing else) put one on your frig, and kill any Battleship with one shot. Sounds like someone had a bad experience judging from the obvious hyperbole. In a 1 on 1 fight, I've yet to see any battleship break my Drake's passive PvE tank with high EM and thermal resists, and good explosive and kinetic resists. The only problem is that my mission ship sucks for PvP because it does no meaningful DPS and has no utility modules, and PvP isn't about 1 on 1. Really, Amarr ships are fine. I really don't see the logic in trying to shield tank one though, when all the bonuses are for armor tanking. The shield is just a buffer.

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