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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.07.01 23:24:00 -
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all happened a bit fast....
but a hardy bunch of pirates in a variety of ships found themselves getting an almight slapping form some nasty Serps...
this happened in the Pain system and i think there may still be some players still fighting the cause....
here are some pics
Deathage
Pain
Serp chasing us when we retreated to gate
Serps giving it the large and basking in there glory
after much work the fleet managed to take out a single BS...
only for it to return.....what a gig...
much fun....
more of the same pls.....
Ranny
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.07.01 23:24:00 -
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all happened a bit fast....
but a hardy bunch of pirates in a variety of ships found themselves getting an almight slapping form some nasty Serps...
this happened in the Pain system and i think there may still be some players still fighting the cause....
here are some pics
Deathage
Pain
Serp chasing us when we retreated to gate
Serps giving it the large and basking in there glory
after much work the fleet managed to take out a single BS...
only for it to return.....what a gig...
much fun....
more of the same pls.....
Ranny
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.07.01 23:57:00 -
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uummm.... are these events announced somewhere? or do they just happen randomly? just curious 
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Schroni
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Posted - 2004.07.01 23:57:00 -
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uummm.... are these events announced somewhere? or do they just happen randomly? just curious
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:01:00 -
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Looks like you where having fun, hope you enjoyed it, i lke the one person in your gang shouting in your gang chat "Im on Fire", wonders if such an event will partake in CA space
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:01:00 -
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Looks like you where having fun, hope you enjoyed it, i lke the one person in your gang shouting in your gang chat "Im on Fire", wonders if such an event will partake in CA space
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Hamish
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:11:00 -
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Yeah it was fun Boy did they rip us to shreds...
The Hamish Saga - by HellGremlin |
Hamish
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:11:00 -
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Yeah it was fun Boy did they rip us to shreds...
The Hamish Saga - by HellGremlin |
Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:15:00 -
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Our forces: 80 ships (approx)
Their Forces [Serpentis]: 8 ships
Our losses: 60-70 ships
Their Loses [Serpentis]: 1 ship
Their BSes jsut would not die.
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Xadian
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Posted - 2004.07.02 00:15:00 -
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Our forces: 80 ships (approx)
Their Forces [Serpentis]: 8 ships
Our losses: 60-70 ships
Their Loses [Serpentis]: 1 ship
Their BSes jsut would not die.
Always hit the big red button whenever you get the chance.
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:04:00 -
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I saw most of the bs die.. believe it or not alot of it was FF from people using smartbombs or shooting on each other. The Serpentis were obviously shield tanking each other so there should have been more coordination. Warping all the bses in one massive group doesnt help either.
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:04:00 -
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I saw most of the bs die.. believe it or not alot of it was FF from people using smartbombs or shooting on each other. The Serpentis were obviously shield tanking each other so there should have been more coordination. Warping all the bses in one massive group doesnt help either.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:15:00 -
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Ack, I saw the blob and I *almost* went to investigate. Dang.
Looks like you guys had some great fun. 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:15:00 -
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Ack, I saw the blob and I *almost* went to investigate. Dang.
Looks like you guys had some great fun.
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"My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Bacchuss on 02/07/2004 01:23:03
i was able to obtain a picture from one of my drone orbiting me at the time,Lots of Battle Ships and Pods
i also recieved this nice e-mail from concord
2004.07.01 22:33:00
For your termination of Serpentis Smuggler we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 1,000,000 ISK
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2004.07.02 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: Bacchuss on 02/07/2004 01:23:03
i was able to obtain a picture from one of my drone orbiting me at the time,Lots of Battle Ships and Pods
i also recieved this nice e-mail from concord
2004.07.01 22:33:00
For your termination of Serpentis Smuggler we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 1,000,000 ISK
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:06:00 -
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the 8 actors were outfited with the top of the line weapons and were probley very close to being toped out in combat skills
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Bacchuss
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:06:00 -
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the 8 actors were outfited with the top of the line weapons and were probley very close to being toped out in combat skills
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Bella Verde
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:23:00 -
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What is the story? And how did everyone find out about this?
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Bella Verde
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:23:00 -
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What is the story? And how did everyone find out about this?
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:49:00 -
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Sounds like a fun time, what did that BS drop? anything good? And who was coordinating this attack?
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.07.02 02:49:00 -
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Sounds like a fun time, what did that BS drop? anything good? And who was coordinating this attack?
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 07:07:00 -
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I'm glad you all had fun, the producer who executed this event is happy ;)
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 07:07:00 -
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I'm glad you all had fun, the producer who executed this event is happy ;)
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.07.02 09:04:00 -
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uummm.... are these events announced somewhere? or do they just happen randomly? just curious
the call for arms was announced in the Mission channel.
some people might be a bit grieved as they dont frequent the mission channel...but if you think about it this was really just a stonking great big mission.
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the 8 actors were outfited with the top of the line weapons and were probley very close to being toped out in combat skills
not wrong there at all....
i think some people under estimated the firepower of the Serps.....
basicaly when your sheild started to go, it was time to aline for warp back to gate.
in the time it took my Tempest to turn and enter warp they had taken out all my shild and amour and down to 3/4 hull...
good job i had a repaired on board....must have warped in and out of battle 4 or 5 times.
what a gig.
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Sounds like a fun time, what did that BS drop? anything good? And who was coordinating this attack?
not sure what they dropped or what were the rewards. some of us didnt get any reward at all, even if we were there from start to finsish.
(but im not *****ing as i had plenty of fun, which is all i really want)
the attach was coordinated by a chap called "Tche"
he was lucky enuf to find the original scout and hence the bookmark to the outpost.
the assult was very poorly organised, but this was not Tche's fault.
just imaging a large fleet of people who dont normaly play as a team, many people didnt seem to follow the most basic of instructions when Tche gave them.
for instance just befor the assult Tche asked everone to aline with the sun ready to warp.
half the gang warped to the sun...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
i think next time around the only chance of sucess is to have a fleet largely composed of battle exsperianced players, with an exsisting command structure.
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I'm glad you all had fun, the producer who executed this event is happy ;)
we were all very happy to participate.....
i was however very annoyed with all the people who decided to bleet like babies after they lost ships.
we were TOLD it was dangerous....
we had scouted and knew in advance the force of the serps
basicaly if you warped to theout post and enganged the Serps, you had to appriciate there a good chance you whould lose yer ship.
i feel these bleeting people put a totaly downer on the event and gave Devalon a totaly un-acceptable ammount of grief in channel, cause they lose ships and mods.
may there be more events and soon.....
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Rancid Mare
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Posted - 2004.07.02 09:04:00 -
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Quote:
uummm.... are these events announced somewhere? or do they just happen randomly? just curious
the call for arms was announced in the Mission channel.
some people might be a bit grieved as they dont frequent the mission channel...but if you think about it this was really just a stonking great big mission.
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the 8 actors were outfited with the top of the line weapons and were probley very close to being toped out in combat skills
not wrong there at all....
i think some people under estimated the firepower of the Serps.....
basicaly when your sheild started to go, it was time to aline for warp back to gate.
in the time it took my Tempest to turn and enter warp they had taken out all my shild and amour and down to 3/4 hull...
good job i had a repaired on board....must have warped in and out of battle 4 or 5 times.
what a gig.
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Sounds like a fun time, what did that BS drop? anything good? And who was coordinating this attack?
not sure what they dropped or what were the rewards. some of us didnt get any reward at all, even if we were there from start to finsish.
(but im not *****ing as i had plenty of fun, which is all i really want)
the attach was coordinated by a chap called "Tche"
he was lucky enuf to find the original scout and hence the bookmark to the outpost.
the assult was very poorly organised, but this was not Tche's fault.
just imaging a large fleet of people who dont normaly play as a team, many people didnt seem to follow the most basic of instructions when Tche gave them.
for instance just befor the assult Tche asked everone to aline with the sun ready to warp.
half the gang warped to the sun...LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
i think next time around the only chance of sucess is to have a fleet largely composed of battle exsperianced players, with an exsisting command structure.
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I'm glad you all had fun, the producer who executed this event is happy ;)
we were all very happy to participate.....
i was however very annoyed with all the people who decided to bleet like babies after they lost ships.
we were TOLD it was dangerous....
we had scouted and knew in advance the force of the serps
basicaly if you warped to theout post and enganged the Serps, you had to appriciate there a good chance you whould lose yer ship.
i feel these bleeting people put a totaly downer on the event and gave Devalon a totaly un-acceptable ammount of grief in channel, cause they lose ships and mods.
may there be more events and soon.....
Rancid Mare of the EveMarshals.
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Damocles Ician
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Posted - 2004.07.02 09:37:00 -
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I joined the battle later on, after the initial force had been decimated. I tried to rally everyone again, but with only 13 ships (a couple of BS's) it was decided we'd never have a hope. So a tactical withdrawl was in order!
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
I managed to get some of the loot in the serps containers after they'd warped out (the event had ended) but Devalon understandably didn't want to reward me then! Does any DEV reckon I could get a bonus to my weapons research will a pile of unassembled energy weapons that I recovered?!
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Damocles Ician
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Posted - 2004.07.02 09:37:00 -
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I joined the battle later on, after the initial force had been decimated. I tried to rally everyone again, but with only 13 ships (a couple of BS's) it was decided we'd never have a hope. So a tactical withdrawl was in order!
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
I managed to get some of the loot in the serps containers after they'd warped out (the event had ended) but Devalon understandably didn't want to reward me then! Does any DEV reckon I could get a bonus to my weapons research will a pile of unassembled energy weapons that I recovered?!
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Amarillon
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:13:00 -
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I went there thoroughly expecting to go home in a pod! 
I was in on two attacks without a problem and having great fun. Unfortunately when we were attacked while regrouping at the gate, the attacking BS landed almost on top of me. It hit me with drones so I pressed autopilot to head for the gate, released my own and hit the BS with a volley of heavy missiles about half a second before I got lagged out totally.
When I "woke up", I was in the next system, in a pod, being told I had been killed by the sentry guns. That bit I don't get in the slightest... 
Ah well. It's not as if there's an EVE-wide shortage of Caracals. I'd just like to know why the sentry guns killed me for defending myself!!! 
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Amarillon
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:13:00 -
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I went there thoroughly expecting to go home in a pod!
I was in on two attacks without a problem and having great fun. Unfortunately when we were attacked while regrouping at the gate, the attacking BS landed almost on top of me. It hit me with drones so I pressed autopilot to head for the gate, released my own and hit the BS with a volley of heavy missiles about half a second before I got lagged out totally.
When I "woke up", I was in the next system, in a pod, being told I had been killed by the sentry guns. That bit I don't get in the slightest...
Ah well. It's not as if there's an EVE-wide shortage of Caracals. I'd just like to know why the sentry guns killed me for defending myself!!!
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jeNK
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:18:00 -
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Looks like fun 
BTW, you might want to consider using new safe points now
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jeNK
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:18:00 -
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Looks like fun
BTW, you might want to consider using new safe points now
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:32:00 -
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Congrats to CCP for an outrstanding Event. They ceretainly seem to being doing a lot of good work now.
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Lord Draco
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Posted - 2004.07.02 10:32:00 -
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Congrats to CCP for an outrstanding Event. They ceretainly seem to being doing a lot of good work now.
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Damocles Ician
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them 
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Damocles Ician
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
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Nebulai
Vice-Admiral Events Team
Interstellar Services Department
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulai
Originally by: Damocles Ician
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
Nebulai, for a small fee, CA would train them for you
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulai
Originally by: Damocles Ician
I agree, it really annoyed me when players tried to palm themselves off as losing a battleship when they hadn't, in an effort to get compensation from Devalon. They deserve a slapping. Kudos to Devalon for giving some talky-roleplay after the event. That was a really nice touch. And respects to the NPCs who were very well organised and stood their ground. I wonder what your personal chat channel must have looked like during the event?!
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
Nebulai, for a small fee, CA would train them for you
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Elad Baan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulai
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
Sounds like it's even more fun to be an actor than to be in an event as a player! ... I want to be an actor! 
Cool ideas for the game - New mission types - Group missions - Planets and the market |
Elad Baan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nebulai
As for events co-ordination, Aurora uses a combination of teamspeak and ingame dictation by the producer on how to perform in an event and of course ongoing updates during the event. The actors are also given weekly team working exercises and combat training.
Sounds like it's even more fun to be an actor than to be in an event as a player! ... I want to be an actor!
Cool ideas for the game - New mission types - Group missions - Planets and the market |
Crimson Smith
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Crimson Smith on 02/07/2004 12:25:06
Edited by: Crimson Smith on 02/07/2004 12:24:13
Had a right laugh- think it's the largest fleet engagement I've ever been in- grabbed a couple of screenies that I'll upload when I get home.
Props to the organiser- the only thing that spoiled it for me was the whole game freezing about 30 seconds after the serp smuggler warped to Reynire gate- I had him at 20km sucking down my cruises with a side order of AM, then everything went black, leaving me slightly worried about the health of my BS...
Wonder if the rude children of ROME are going to be the event team's next target?
(edit) Oh- and we took out two of their BS- one at the outpost and apparently the one which decided to chase us to the gate- my share of the bounty? A whole TWO THOUSAND isk! All to myself!  (/edit)
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Crimson Smith
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Posted - 2004.07.02 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Crimson Smith on 02/07/2004 12:25:06
Edited by: Crimson Smith on 02/07/2004 12:24:13
Had a right laugh- think it's the largest fleet engagement I've ever been in- grabbed a couple of screenies that I'll upload when I get home.
Props to the organiser- the only thing that spoiled it for me was the whole game freezing about 30 seconds after the serp smuggler warped to Reynire gate- I had him at 20km sucking down my cruises with a side order of AM, then everything went black, leaving me slightly worried about the health of my BS...
Wonder if the rude children of ROME are going to be the event team's next target?
(edit) Oh- and we took out two of their BS- one at the outpost and apparently the one which decided to chase us to the gate- my share of the bounty? A whole TWO THOUSAND isk! All to myself! (/edit)
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:46:00 -
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I'd guess that the actors never have to put up with the lag such a blob creates...
That would be one serious advantage.
But damn! 80vs7 and no luck!
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Feta Solamnia
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:46:00 -
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I'd guess that the actors never have to put up with the lag such a blob creates...
That would be one serious advantage.
But damn! 80vs7 and no luck!
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Looks like you where having fun, hope you enjoyed it, i lke the one person in your gang shouting in your gang chat "Im on Fire", wonders if such an event will partake in CA space
you guys chased a jove remember?
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I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:55:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Looks like you where having fun, hope you enjoyed it, i lke the one person in your gang shouting in your gang chat "Im on Fire", wonders if such an event will partake in CA space
you guys chased a jove remember?
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"this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me.
I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist
OMG im a pretzel!!! |
Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:58:00 -
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looks like a good event... too bad for all the smacktalk in local...
"We brake for nobody"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.07.02 13:58:00 -
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looks like a good event... too bad for all the smacktalk in local...
"We brake for nobody"
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.07.02 14:12:00 -
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If only i wasn¦t on vacation and 4000 miles away from my system... .
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2004.07.02 14:12:00 -
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If only i wasn¦t on vacation and 4000 miles away from my system....
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 14:48:00 -
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Sorry guys, had to shift this to the events forum.
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Nebulai
Vice-Admiral Events Team
Interstellar Services Department
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 14:48:00 -
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Sorry guys, had to shift this to the events forum.
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Nebulai
Vice-Admiral Events Team
Interstellar Services Department
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Digger Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Amarillon
...When I "woke up", I was in the next system, in a pod, being told I had been killed by the sentry guns. That bit I don't get in the slightest...
Ah well. It's not as if there's an EVE-wide shortage of Caracals. I'd just like to know why the sentry guns killed me for defending myself!!!
I had a similar experience.
Suggest you look in your EVE\capture\Gamelogs directory.
In my own case, I went in in a Frigate, armed with a SmartBomb and some drones. When I warped in, I immediately set course to Orbit the Serpentis Smuggler -- which the GangLeader had designated primary target -- and launched one drone.
I then arrived in Lag City, found myself at my target, and started SmartBombing. I got multiple unexpected warnings about initiating hostilites, but I blew them off. Never did get to launch my other drones before I got awarded my pod and ran away.
Looking in EVE\capture\Gamelogs later, I found that I had done at least as much damage to other members of my Gang as I had to my target. Including podding one of them! 8-((
And now I'm sporting a nice -0.9 Security Status. Ghu knows how long I'll have to do penance, hunting Rats, to work *that* off!
I still think Kamikaze SmartBombing can work, but only if the other attackers stand off out of range.
Which will take a bit more discipline than an ad-hoc-ly-thrown-together mob like yesterday's is ever going to have.
Oh. Well.
It was still a fun, highly entertaining and educational Event for me. And a classic illustration of what Carl von Clausewitz had in mind when he wrote about Friction in War.
But I don't plan to attend another such, unless I can find some mates who want to practice up some tactics first: it's just too expensive in lost equipment and too dangerous to this, my most highly-trained character.
Hmm... Maybe next time I could try one of my less expensive characters. Hmm...
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Digger Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Amarillon
...When I "woke up", I was in the next system, in a pod, being told I had been killed by the sentry guns. That bit I don't get in the slightest...
Ah well. It's not as if there's an EVE-wide shortage of Caracals. I'd just like to know why the sentry guns killed me for defending myself!!!
I had a similar experience.
Suggest you look in your EVE\capture\Gamelogs directory.
In my own case, I went in in a Frigate, armed with a SmartBomb and some drones. When I warped in, I immediately set course to Orbit the Serpentis Smuggler -- which the GangLeader had designated primary target -- and launched one drone.
I then arrived in Lag City, found myself at my target, and started SmartBombing. I got multiple unexpected warnings about initiating hostilites, but I blew them off. Never did get to launch my other drones before I got awarded my pod and ran away.
Looking in EVE\capture\Gamelogs later, I found that I had done at least as much damage to other members of my Gang as I had to my target. Including podding one of them! 8-((
And now I'm sporting a nice -0.9 Security Status. Ghu knows how long I'll have to do penance, hunting Rats, to work *that* off!
I still think Kamikaze SmartBombing can work, but only if the other attackers stand off out of range.
Which will take a bit more discipline than an ad-hoc-ly-thrown-together mob like yesterday's is ever going to have.
Oh. Well.
It was still a fun, highly entertaining and educational Event for me. And a classic illustration of what Carl von Clausewitz had in mind when he wrote about Friction in War.
But I don't plan to attend another such, unless I can find some mates who want to practice up some tactics first: it's just too expensive in lost equipment and too dangerous to this, my most highly-trained character.
Hmm... Maybe next time I could try one of my less expensive characters. Hmm...
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Matsu
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:24:00 -
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I will express my opinion on this subject...
From our part we were organized, our TS was running, we were calling target and synchronized to warp and so on. Firstly we send a scout who reported eight BS. Well we were around 50 people. We engaged them and then hell broke loose.
For some of us lag was terrible, and we did not stand a chance against those BSes. They were crushing armor tanked megathron in around ten seconds. And when we killed one of the BS, it respawned.
This was already bad at this point, but the worse was to come. After some minutes of intensive "shoot the people", there were can flying everywhere. So some people from "Rome" came and started to grab the loot. I do not have any problem with that, it is part of the game, but when there was no other target, the people from aurora not only let them empty our can without problem but they also podded us if we try to get our stuff.
What I see here is simply collusion between people involved in the event and this corporation.
And then it is already hard to loose a BS when you went in what was basically a trap, but it is even harder when some rogue are trying to sell your named mods on the event channel. Then you can get really angry.
For a lot of people it was a funny event, "hey go there and get banged by gm", it would have certainly be fun if I would came in a cruiser and come back in a pod. But this was not the case.
Several of us went to a lot of event, and it was *never* like that. And for this one :
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As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
I suppose that's why we receive a compensation in that case ? Simply because you know that everything was screwed up ?
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Matsu
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:24:00 -
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I will express my opinion on this subject...
From our part we were organized, our TS was running, we were calling target and synchronized to warp and so on. Firstly we send a scout who reported eight BS. Well we were around 50 people. We engaged them and then hell broke loose.
For some of us lag was terrible, and we did not stand a chance against those BSes. They were crushing armor tanked megathron in around ten seconds. And when we killed one of the BS, it respawned.
This was already bad at this point, but the worse was to come. After some minutes of intensive "shoot the people", there were can flying everywhere. So some people from "Rome" came and started to grab the loot. I do not have any problem with that, it is part of the game, but when there was no other target, the people from aurora not only let them empty our can without problem but they also podded us if we try to get our stuff.
What I see here is simply collusion between people involved in the event and this corporation.
And then it is already hard to loose a BS when you went in what was basically a trap, but it is even harder when some rogue are trying to sell your named mods on the event channel. Then you can get really angry.
For a lot of people it was a funny event, "hey go there and get banged by gm", it would have certainly be fun if I would came in a cruiser and come back in a pod. But this was not the case.
Several of us went to a lot of event, and it was *never* like that. And for this one :
Quote:
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
I suppose that's why we receive a compensation in that case ? Simply because you know that everything was screwed up ?
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SEP Mystic
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Digger Dan
But I don't plan to attend another such, unless I can find some mates who want to practice up some tactics first: it's just too expensive in lost equipment and too dangerous to this, my most highly-trained character.
All aurora events are different where some like this were, proved to be too powerful for the players (you were infact attacking a Outpost, where you should expect them to be stronger.) You shouldnt use this as a reference for all Aurora events, not all our events are combat either. It would be a shame for you and others to miss out on lots of opertunities because you lost this fight.
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Mystic
Senior Event Producer
Aurora - ISD
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SEP Mystic
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Digger Dan
But I don't plan to attend another such, unless I can find some mates who want to practice up some tactics first: it's just too expensive in lost equipment and too dangerous to this, my most highly-trained character.
All aurora events are different where some like this were, proved to be too powerful for the players (you were infact attacking a Outpost, where you should expect them to be stronger.) You shouldnt use this as a reference for all Aurora events, not all our events are combat either. It would be a shame for you and others to miss out on lots of opertunities because you lost this fight.
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Mystic
Senior Event Producer
Aurora - ISD
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Matsu
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As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
I suppose that's why we receive a compensation in that case ? Simply because you know that everything was screwed up ?
Not at all. No compensation was given out last night.
The rewards given out last night are in line with the original event proposal and the associated risk versus reward balance.
If you risk a lot to take part in an event, or do a lot of work then the reward is more than someone who doesn't risk themselves at all.
Its one of the hardest parts of events to balance correctly.
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Nebulai
Vice-Admiral Events Team
Interstellar Services Department
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Nebulai
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Posted - 2004.07.02 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Matsu
Quote:
As long as the risks are clearly defined no compensation is given - people have a choice to take part in an event, we don't force them
I suppose that's why we receive a compensation in that case ? Simply because you know that everything was screwed up ?
Not at all. No compensation was given out last night.
The rewards given out last night are in line with the original event proposal and the associated risk versus reward balance.
If you risk a lot to take part in an event, or do a lot of work then the reward is more than someone who doesn't risk themselves at all.
Its one of the hardest parts of events to balance correctly.
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Nebulai
Vice-Admiral Events Team
Interstellar Services Department
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Icarius
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Posted - 2004.07.02 20:15:00 -
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yes...it was a great event...for the aurora team who (thx ccp) can make a event to kill the most people possible and sell the loot with their friens Rome
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Icarius
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Posted - 2004.07.02 20:15:00 -
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yes...it was a great event...for the aurora team who (thx ccp) can make a event to kill the most people possible and sell the loot with their friens Rome
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Ma Raia'l
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:08:00 -
[63]
Ah yes, I was wondering why it showed 92 ships destroyed in the last 24 hours in the Pain system
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Ma Raia'l
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:08:00 -
[64]
Ah yes, I was wondering why it showed 92 ships destroyed in the last 24 hours in the Pain system
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Icarius
yes...it was a great event...for the aurora team who (thx ccp) can make a event to kill the most people possible and sell the loot with their friens Rome
Or maybe ROME are just a bunch of people who are not above looting other people's property?
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Cabadrin
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:15:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Icarius
yes...it was a great event...for the aurora team who (thx ccp) can make a event to kill the most people possible and sell the loot with their friens Rome
Or maybe ROME are just a bunch of people who are not above looting other people's property?
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Digger Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:19:00 -
[67]
Originally by: SEP Mystic
It would be a shame for you and others to miss out on lots of opertunities because you lost this fight.
Oh, it's not that I/we "lost this fight".
Losses are always educational; victories too often lead to "victory disease" and unlearning of important lessons learned in previous defeats.
It's that the expected cost of participating was too high. I knew going in that I was quite likely to lose my ship: that's why I didn't take my most expensive ship. But I didn't realize until after the Event that I was also risking my clone. And if I'd had too low-quality a clone to support all my skill points, I would have been risking even more.
The problem for players is that they spend lots of their real-time doing boring Game-work to accumulate the resources they need to do fun-things and things that give feelings of accomplishment (which are not always the same things). In EVE, there's also the real-world-time cost of training up skills: I spent several months mining, to buy the skills I have now, and then another several months not playing at all, except to log on from time to time to launch the training of another Skill.
I'm not going to risk that investment again on a hastily thrown-together suicidal charge into the massed artillery and machine-guns. If I'd realized what I was risking, I'd not have risked that character even that one time.
But I'd observed a previous GFTL-Event from a safe distance from a Courier, and it had looked fun, so when the announcement came, I just jumped in without thinking through the possible consequences.
Now I also have some lower-value characters that I might be willing to risk. But I'll have to train them up a little -- still haven't calculated how much -- before they'll be able to make a contribution other than cannon-fodder to such a major-combat Event.
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Digger Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.02 22:19:00 -
[68]
Originally by: SEP Mystic
It would be a shame for you and others to miss out on lots of opertunities because you lost this fight.
Oh, it's not that I/we "lost this fight".
Losses are always educational; victories too often lead to "victory disease" and unlearning of important lessons learned in previous defeats.
It's that the expected cost of participating was too high. I knew going in that I was quite likely to lose my ship: that's why I didn't take my most expensive ship. But I didn't realize until after the Event that I was also risking my clone. And if I'd had too low-quality a clone to support all my skill points, I would have been risking even more.
The problem for players is that they spend lots of their real-time doing boring Game-work to accumulate the resources they need to do fun-things and things that give feelings of accomplishment (which are not always the same things). In EVE, there's also the real-world-time cost of training up skills: I spent several months mining, to buy the skills I have now, and then another several months not playing at all, except to log on from time to time to launch the training of another Skill.
I'm not going to risk that investment again on a hastily thrown-together suicidal charge into the massed artillery and machine-guns. If I'd realized what I was risking, I'd not have risked that character even that one time.
But I'd observed a previous GFTL-Event from a safe distance from a Courier, and it had looked fun, so when the announcement came, I just jumped in without thinking through the possible consequences.
Now I also have some lower-value characters that I might be willing to risk. But I'll have to train them up a little -- still haven't calculated how much -- before they'll be able to make a contribution other than cannon-fodder to such a major-combat Event.
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The Unseen
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:50:00 -
[69]
hmmm.....
"Time is a companion that is with us on our journys."
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The Unseen
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Posted - 2004.07.03 03:50:00 -
[70]
hmmm.....
"Time is a companion that is with us on our journys."
~Patric Stewart |
Emperor
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor on 03/07/2004 04:06:09
as much as i dont like it, the Serpentis DID shoot us as we looted all your cans. i would like to thank you all for having such great stuff too. Hopefuly next event we will be able to fight on the side of the Serpentis as Devalon has told us that he will never give us rewards again. was great fun though hope more fully-loaded battleships attend the next event!! |
Emperor
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:03:00 -
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Edited by: Emperor on 03/07/2004 04:06:09
as much as i dont like it, the Serpentis DID shoot us as we looted all your cans. i would like to thank you all for having such great stuff too. Hopefuly next event we will be able to fight on the side of the Serpentis as Devalon has told us that he will never give us rewards again. was great fun though hope more fully-loaded battleships attend the next event!! |
ArcticWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:06:00 -
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I liked the day before better, where i killed 90% of the serpintis npcs with the warp jamming frigs trapping them for me, and then when i proceeded to kill several people that were collecting my loot
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ArcticWolf
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:06:00 -
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I liked the day before better, where i killed 90% of the serpintis npcs with the warp jamming frigs trapping them for me, and then when i proceeded to kill several people that were collecting my loot
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:06:00 -
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We weren't the ones bringing top-of-the-line equiptment into a situation as grim as that. Maybe next time try some tactics other than big guns and more of them.
We sincerely thank all of you who participated. If you want some of your XL Cl-5s back check trade channel
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Aturayd
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:06:00 -
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We weren't the ones bringing top-of-the-line equiptment into a situation as grim as that. Maybe next time try some tactics other than big guns and more of them.
We sincerely thank all of you who participated. If you want some of your XL Cl-5s back check trade channel
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The Unseen
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:10:00 -
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Most of you think that we are scum and stealing is wrong. Well it is'nt. It is just a way of life so get over it or we will show you Pirating
"Time is a companion that is with us on our journys."
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The Unseen
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:10:00 -
[78]
Most of you think that we are scum and stealing is wrong. Well it is'nt. It is just a way of life so get over it or we will show you Pirating
"Time is a companion that is with us on our journys."
~Patric Stewart |
Snavold
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:18:00 -
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Yeah. Honestly. You all stole loot too just as much as we did. You can't blame it on just ROME. Cry someplace else please.
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:18:00 -
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Yeah. Honestly. You all stole loot too just as much as we did. You can't blame it on just ROME. Cry someplace else please.
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:26:00 -
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It didn't help being hit 120km out by 425 rails moving at 2km a sec either. What kinda hacks you using? :D
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Snavold
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Posted - 2004.07.03 04:26:00 -
[82]
It didn't help being hit 120km out by 425 rails moving at 2km a sec either. What kinda hacks you using? :D
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Engelious Angelion
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:09:00 -
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I WISH I'd been there
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Engelious Angelion
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Posted - 2004.07.04 23:09:00 -
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I WISH I'd been there
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Sakorski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.07.07 20:20:00 -
[85]
wow, you guys lost 70 ships? geez...
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Sakorski Zalani
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Posted - 2004.07.07 20:20:00 -
[86]
wow, you guys lost 70 ships? geez...
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Amarillon
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Posted - 2004.07.08 17:22:00 -
[87]
Nice to see all the ROME people whinging about people whinging...
Apparently I got killed for attacking someone called Mangold. Would said person please step forward and be recognised, so I can apologise to them - if they were on our side? If not, one of the gaps in my lag showed the "Serp" as being 99.99% dead, so eat Scourges, rat! 
Amar.
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Amarillon
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Posted - 2004.07.08 17:22:00 -
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Nice to see all the ROME people whinging about people whinging...
Apparently I got killed for attacking someone called Mangold. Would said person please step forward and be recognised, so I can apologise to them - if they were on our side? If not, one of the gaps in my lag showed the "Serp" as being 99.99% dead, so eat Scourges, rat!
Amar.
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Mangold
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Posted - 2004.07.10 16:11:00 -
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That would be me.
But I never saw you attack me. Strange.
However, I did enjoy the event. Thanks Nebulai and the others.
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Mangold
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Posted - 2004.07.10 16:11:00 -
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That would be me.
But I never saw you attack me. Strange.
However, I did enjoy the event. Thanks Nebulai and the others.
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THE CHOSEN1
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Posted - 2004.07.11 13:36:00 -
[91]
CA would of owned those serps.
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THE CHOSEN1
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Posted - 2004.07.11 13:36:00 -
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CA would of owned those serps.
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