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teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:02:00 - [301] Originally by: Alexandra Belani I think the point Llebring, is that you were losing, and cant just go down with grace. Pathetic. If that's what you think, you are seriously out of touch with the reality that is EVE Online: The Second Genesis. _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:02:00 - [302] Originally by: Alexandra Belani I think the point Llebring, is that you were losing, and cant just go down with grace. Pathetic. If that's what you think, you are seriously out of touch with the reality that is EVE Online: The Second Genesis. _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:05:00 - [303] I still fail to understand why you all have to flame each other so much, why lie, twist, deceive, hate, spend hours dragging up old ****, quote each other to death and all trying to claim the moral high ground all the time. It just makes the lot of you look like bitter and twisted 4sshats. It's a game, get over it. So far all you have conclusively proven with 90% of the debate is that neither side is whiter than white (although why any of you feel you need to claim to be is also beyond me) and that both sides have royally p1ssed one another off. It's comical in the extreme how quickly the original reasons for war get buried in the frenzied scramble to 'look good in public' that always goes on in the forums when a war kicks off. No matter how much noise is added at this stage the fact remains that (appart from Evol/m0o who have their own reasons) we are all at each others throats because CDI decided to push the boundaries with RKK and attempt to get away with it or were deliberatly trying to pick a fight with RKK. Muddy the waters all you like the simple fact is that's why we're fighting each other. All this other mudslinging comes down to the fact that you all want to prove you're better/more righteous/more godly/have a bigger d1ck than your opponent and is just a crap attempt at garnering public support. It makes you all look like chimps in my opinion. Just get on and fight for goodness sake. In the words of a certain fictitious individuals mum "you're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy"! Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:05:00 - [304] I still fail to understand why you all have to flame each other so much, why lie, twist, deceive, hate, spend hours dragging up old ****, quote each other to death and all trying to claim the moral high ground all the time. It just makes the lot of you look like bitter and twisted 4sshats. It's a game, get over it. So far all you have conclusively proven with 90% of the debate is that neither side is whiter than white (although why any of you feel you need to claim to be is also beyond me) and that both sides have royally p1ssed one another off. It's comical in the extreme how quickly the original reasons for war get buried in the frenzied scramble to 'look good in public' that always goes on in the forums when a war kicks off. No matter how much noise is added at this stage the fact remains that (appart from Evol/m0o who have their own reasons) we are all at each others throats because CDI decided to push the boundaries with RKK and attempt to get away with it or were deliberatly trying to pick a fight with RKK. Muddy the waters all you like the simple fact is that's why we're fighting each other. All this other mudslinging comes down to the fact that you all want to prove you're better/more righteous/more godly/have a bigger d1ck than your opponent and is just a crap attempt at garnering public support. It makes you all look like chimps in my opinion. Just get on and fight for goodness sake. In the words of a certain fictitious individuals mum "you're not the messiah, you're a very naughty boy"! Eve Blacklight Style
LLeBRing	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:06:00 - [305] Edited by: LLeBRing on 06/07/2004 20:08:26 Originally by: Notferr Wow... Now that is a pious post. Good for you LL. The only kills Running-KIA gets is solo ganks. I don't remember the last fleet battle we have seen. We mobilized a CoD fleet against an ELITE AND UBER Running-KIA task force that snaked into Deklein right at down time. Even odds, and R-K has more PvP exp. Running-KIA ran. You and Labmonkey make good speed. How many MWD's and Warp Core Stabs on those Scorps? Once again wrong. This war is not about fleet battles as they do not win wars. Secondly tell me a time when we have ran from equal numbers... Tell me?!?! I HAVE NEVER SEEN YOU AT ANY MAJOR ENGAGEMENT Why?? Because you aren't there! Do not talk about something you know nothing about you pompous individual Also I don't fly a scorp and lab monkey is in a frig. Nice you know our names though, because you've died many times to us. Them and every other RONA pilot 200-250 CoD kills in 1.5 months. Eat it. Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella
LLeBRing	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:06:00 - [306] Edited by: LLeBRing on 06/07/2004 20:08:26 Originally by: Notferr Wow... Now that is a pious post. Good for you LL. The only kills Running-KIA gets is solo ganks. I don't remember the last fleet battle we have seen. We mobilized a CoD fleet against an ELITE AND UBER Running-KIA task force that snaked into Deklein right at down time. Even odds, and R-K has more PvP exp. Running-KIA ran. You and Labmonkey make good speed. How many MWD's and Warp Core Stabs on those Scorps? Once again wrong. This war is not about fleet battles as they do not win wars. Secondly tell me a time when we have ran from equal numbers... Tell me?!?! I HAVE NEVER SEEN YOU AT ANY MAJOR ENGAGEMENT Why?? Because you aren't there! Do not talk about something you know nothing about you pompous individual Also I don't fly a scorp and lab monkey is in a frig. Nice you know our names though, because you've died many times to us. Them and every other RONA pilot 200-250 CoD kills in 1.5 months. Eat it. Nuttin but corn bread en chicken for this fella
Tatsue Nuko	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:08:00 - [307] Originally by: LLeBRing Hmmm let me see... Evol? m0o?? You needed help to kill us because NAST can't do it alone. Nice attempt at rewriting history. Those with intect memory circuits do, however, remember that Evolution were there right from the start - before CoD, FU or NORAD had entered the scene. And the exact time of when m0o descided to come up I have absolutely no clue about. Ask them. But it's moot anyway. I don't personally care to bother about the "waah waah they called in PA" thingie. It's not like it makes you more or less of the oathbreakers that you already were, now is it? I do remember an old conversation I had with Propehcy right after the start of theese things: [ 2004.05.30 03:09:49 ] Propehcy > you guys are already with m0o [ 2004.05.30 03:10:09 ] Tatsue Nuko > That's just because Lord Zap does a great lapdance. There you have it! All mysteries have their completely mundane explanations...
Tatsue Nuko	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:08:00 - [308] Originally by: LLeBRing Hmmm let me see... Evol? m0o?? You needed help to kill us because NAST can't do it alone. Nice attempt at rewriting history. Those with intect memory circuits do, however, remember that Evolution were there right from the start - before CoD, FU or NORAD had entered the scene. And the exact time of when m0o descided to come up I have absolutely no clue about. Ask them. But it's moot anyway. I don't personally care to bother about the "waah waah they called in PA" thingie. It's not like it makes you more or less of the oathbreakers that you already were, now is it? I do remember an old conversation I had with Propehcy right after the start of theese things: [ 2004.05.30 03:09:49 ] Propehcy > you guys are already with m0o [ 2004.05.30 03:10:09 ] Tatsue Nuko > That's just because Lord Zap does a great lapdance. There you have it! All mysteries have their completely mundane explanations...
crice	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:14:00 - [309] Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Alexandra Belani I think the point Llebring, is that you were losing, and cant just go down with grace. Pathetic. Pathetic is not being able to beat us on your own. Pathetic is asking m0o and evolution for help. Pathetic is to say someone is losing a war when your own alliance can't beat one corporation. Nuff of the pathetics, you asked for a large war, now here it is. Enjoy it. This will be FUN!!!!
crice	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:14:00 - [310] Originally by: LLeBRing Originally by: Alexandra Belani I think the point Llebring, is that you were losing, and cant just go down with grace. Pathetic. Pathetic is not being able to beat us on your own. Pathetic is asking m0o and evolution for help. Pathetic is to say someone is losing a war when your own alliance can't beat one corporation. Nuff of the pathetics, you asked for a large war, now here it is. Enjoy it. This will be FUN!!!!
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:15:00 - [311] in the words of the Battlefield Vietnam Propaganda announcments "This topic falls like broken bird from the sky" "GI you Moderators have abandonned you, run for home whilst you still have the chance" "You have no chance to win this flame war" "Do you think your pilots care when they napalm this topic?" cough please give this topic up for dead kthxbye
Jadrut	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:15:00 - [312] in the words of the Battlefield Vietnam Propaganda announcments "This topic falls like broken bird from the sky" "GI you Moderators have abandonned you, run for home whilst you still have the chance" "You have no chance to win this flame war" "Do you think your pilots care when they napalm this topic?" cough please give this topic up for dead kthxbye
Kronarty	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:35:00 - [313] It's funny, This whole crap was based on your supposedly higher moral ground, the freedom of the north, free space and supposed piracy actions. What do we have now? We have a Coalition that is full of liars like Notferr (yes, you're still a liar, IG and OOG). There goes the higher moral ground! We have a Coalition that has brought the largest pirate corps to help them, what freedom of the north are you defending? The freedom to eject and EndYourself? (c) the m0o corp We have a Coalition whose 3 main alliances enforce closed borders (that is, they say they do). Open space? What a joke, reminds me of a certain COD politician that is also a liar. Supposed piracy actions from people that were kicked from CDI before the war. Now we have proved piracy actions from those that have been called to "liberate" the north. I am still laughing... Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? It's fun to see you guys change from a "just cause" war to a "who cares" approach. At last you are honest now. But it's VERY VERY late. You have a lot of explaining to do Notferr. To your corpmates. To your allies. To those you managed to drag into this situation. And even to yourself. That is if you have anything to say that won't make things worse, and I highly doubt you do. How does it feel when you see that all the bullets you have fired were blanks and there is a bunch of angry mofos heading your way with loaded shotguns, not so sharp knives and an evil grin? I will enjoy this until the end. I doubt you will.
Kronarty	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:35:00 - [314] It's funny, This whole crap was based on your supposedly higher moral ground, the freedom of the north, free space and supposed piracy actions. What do we have now? We have a Coalition that is full of liars like Notferr (yes, you're still a liar, IG and OOG). There goes the higher moral ground! We have a Coalition that has brought the largest pirate corps to help them, what freedom of the north are you defending? The freedom to eject and EndYourself? (c) the m0o corp We have a Coalition whose 3 main alliances enforce closed borders (that is, they say they do). Open space? What a joke, reminds me of a certain COD politician that is also a liar. Supposed piracy actions from people that were kicked from CDI before the war. Now we have proved piracy actions from those that have been called to "liberate" the north. I am still laughing... Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? It's fun to see you guys change from a "just cause" war to a "who cares" approach. At last you are honest now. But it's VERY VERY late. You have a lot of explaining to do Notferr. To your corpmates. To your allies. To those you managed to drag into this situation. And even to yourself. That is if you have anything to say that won't make things worse, and I highly doubt you do. How does it feel when you see that all the bullets you have fired were blanks and there is a bunch of angry mofos heading your way with loaded shotguns, not so sharp knives and an evil grin? I will enjoy this until the end. I doubt you will.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:58:00 - [315] K, get a life and a new song. I will not be dragged into your circle of stupid arguements. Strap on a gun or shut up. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
Notferr	Posted - 2004.07.06 20:58:00 - [316] K, get a life and a new song. I will not be dragged into your circle of stupid arguements. Strap on a gun or shut up. - N - Cowboy - Celestial Apocalypse Now hear this, I am selling clues on market in gehi.
crice	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:05:00 - [317] Originally by: Kronarty It's funny, This whole crap was based on your supposedly higher moral ground, the freedom of the north, free space and supposed piracy actions. What do we have now? We have a Coalition that is full of liars like Notferr (yes, you're still a liar, IG and OOG). There goes the higher moral ground! We have a Coalition that has brought the largest pirate corps to help them, what freedom of the north are you defending? The freedom to eject and EndYourself? (c) the m0o corp We have a Coalition whose 3 main alliances enforce closed borders (that is, they say they do). Open space? What a joke, reminds me of a certain COD politician that is also a liar. Supposed piracy actions from people that were kicked from CDI before the war. Now we have proved piracy actions from those that have been called to "liberate" the north. I am still laughing... Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? It's fun to see you guys change from a "just cause" war to a "who cares" approach. At last you are honest now. But it's VERY VERY late. You have a lot of explaining to do Notferr. To your corpmates. To your allies. To those you managed to drag into this situation. And even to yourself. That is if you have anything to say that won't make things worse, and I highly doubt you do. How does it feel when you see that all the bullets you have fired were blanks and there is a bunch of angry mofos heading your way with loaded shotguns, not so sharp knives and an evil grin? I will enjoy this until the end. I doubt you will. Less Forum Talk. They will learn the hard way.
crice	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:05:00 - [318] Originally by: Kronarty It's funny, This whole crap was based on your supposedly higher moral ground, the freedom of the north, free space and supposed piracy actions. What do we have now? We have a Coalition that is full of liars like Notferr (yes, you're still a liar, IG and OOG). There goes the higher moral ground! We have a Coalition that has brought the largest pirate corps to help them, what freedom of the north are you defending? The freedom to eject and EndYourself? (c) the m0o corp We have a Coalition whose 3 main alliances enforce closed borders (that is, they say they do). Open space? What a joke, reminds me of a certain COD politician that is also a liar. Supposed piracy actions from people that were kicked from CDI before the war. Now we have proved piracy actions from those that have been called to "liberate" the north. I am still laughing... Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? It's fun to see you guys change from a "just cause" war to a "who cares" approach. At last you are honest now. But it's VERY VERY late. You have a lot of explaining to do Notferr. To your corpmates. To your allies. To those you managed to drag into this situation. And even to yourself. That is if you have anything to say that won't make things worse, and I highly doubt you do. How does it feel when you see that all the bullets you have fired were blanks and there is a bunch of angry mofos heading your way with loaded shotguns, not so sharp knives and an evil grin? I will enjoy this until the end. I doubt you will. Less Forum Talk. They will learn the hard way.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:10:00 - [319] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 06/07/2004 21:13:15 FU and CoD died weeks ago yet you still come on here to spout rubbish. The same FU and CoD who dismissed the PA from NAST after being shown "evidence" of "alledged" piracy acts by the PA, who then cried to their pirate friends to come and help them after they got a kicking, and now they're like waaa you had to call in the CA you lamers. The lies that I've seen spread by your corporations to drum up support is quite frankly a joke. We've watched you go from saying PA is ebil etc etc, then afen we've proven again and again beyond doubt that we are absolutely in the right, you resort to who cares it's just a war blah blah. Like you say, it doesn't matter anymore. FU and CoD are dead Jericho are nowhere to be seen except in frigates and pods. Evol and Moo generally log on to annoy us for a while before logging off ready for a log in gank trap in a couple of hours time. Where are UNICOR? UNICOR who? Where are NORAD? Well they're generally flying around inconveniencing the PA in empire, but at least they don't talk crap whilst doing it. As for DB Preachers options, we'll take the defeat you option please. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:10:00 - [320] Edited by: KIAInkZ on 06/07/2004 21:13:15 FU and CoD died weeks ago yet you still come on here to spout rubbish. The same FU and CoD who dismissed the PA from NAST after being shown "evidence" of "alledged" piracy acts by the PA, who then cried to their pirate friends to come and help them after they got a kicking, and now they're like waaa you had to call in the CA you lamers. The lies that I've seen spread by your corporations to drum up support is quite frankly a joke. We've watched you go from saying PA is ebil etc etc, then afen we've proven again and again beyond doubt that we are absolutely in the right, you resort to who cares it's just a war blah blah. Like you say, it doesn't matter anymore. FU and CoD are dead Jericho are nowhere to be seen except in frigates and pods. Evol and Moo generally log on to annoy us for a while before logging off ready for a log in gank trap in a couple of hours time. Where are UNICOR? UNICOR who? Where are NORAD? Well they're generally flying around inconveniencing the PA in empire, but at least they don't talk crap whilst doing it. As for DB Preachers options, we'll take the defeat you option please. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:36:00 - [321] Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? We still care. And the fact that you do not care anymore means that you have lost. You may now come back to Deklien from empire to pick up your stuff as soon as you leave the corporation that is still at war with the PA. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:36:00 - [322] Originally by: Notferr You know, Who cares??? Really??? Who cares? We still care. And the fact that you do not care anymore means that you have lost. You may now come back to Deklien from empire to pick up your stuff as soon as you leave the corporation that is still at war with the PA. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:52:00 - [323] Locked for continued trolling. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.07.06 21:52:00 - [324] Locked for continued trolling. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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