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Corwain
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.11.05 13:51:00 -
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After the discussion on the forums last night about Obama and dealing with some of the posters who would just call me names and not actually address my points with logic or evidence I decided I was done talking politics until the next Presidential election. I'm not much a political person.
But then there was the morning I just had. Just got to work after one of the scariest bus rides I've had. I ride a bus to work every day. Better for the enviroment than taking a car and cheaper for me. At least half the regular bus riders are black. I hadn't even noticed this until today.
Today when I got on the bus all the black riders were chanting slogans and comments about Obama and his victory, which while any loud shouting is annoying over a 40min bus ride I can put up with it. Then the slogans started to get progressively scarier and scarier.
The slogans shouted about Obama and his victory became more and more anti-white. I head someone yelling how they'd like to "choke-slam those damn whites". Another black person railed about losing a job because he had dreadlocks. Of course 2 years ago as a caucasian I had to shave my shoulder-length dreads when I went job hunting.
So I was glad to get off the bus on one piece. Nobody replied in opposition to any of the shouted slogans, comments, or threats but all the same I was worried the next step would take place where random white people that were "looking at us funny" were physically beaten and thrown off the bus.
I hope all this cools down soon.
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Frankinator
Malevolent Emo Herders
Obsidian Empire
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Posted - 2008.11.05 14:58:00 -
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Damn dude, if youre telling the truth, thats ****ed up. 
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:05:00 -
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Isn't it awesome how something so simple can turn people into complete monsters.
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MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:08:00 -
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It was kind of to be expected either way. Race was a silent issue in this election, luckily Obama did the right thing and not bring it up, running as a candidate who is black, not a black candidate. If McCain had won, I would have expected violence to occur, sadly enough.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:13:00 -
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There are always asshats in any group of any stripe. That was particularly crappy of that crowd on the bus. I am amazed the bus driver didn't control things. I have seen far less goings on on a bus here in Chicago that prompted the bus driver to pull over and kick ass (metaphorically speaking).
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:17:00 -
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I wish race was a silent issue, I look at you Media.
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:18:00 -
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After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
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MooKids
Caldari
Dark Echo Engineering
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:22:00 -
[8]
 Originally by: Benilopax
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
He wasn't saying that all of them are violent, he was saying those people on the bus were near violent.
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Micheal Dietrich
Caldari
Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
I'd hate to break it to you bud, but the door swings both ways, and this will never, ever, be a perfect world.
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jason hill
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:23:00 -
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I had a feeling that certain sections of US society would get a bit of a chip on thier shoulder when he got into office ..And i`m affraid they are deluding them selves if they think that he`s the next messiah.
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Bodhisattvas
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
After the discussion on the forums last night about Obama and dealing with some of the posters who would just call me names and not actually address my points with logic or evidence I decided I was done talking politics until the next Presidential election. I'm not much a political person.
But then there was the morning I just had. Just got to work after one of the scariest bus rides I've had. I ride a bus to work every day. Better for the enviroment than taking a car and cheaper for me. At least half the regular bus riders are black. I hadn't even noticed this until today.
Today when I got on the bus all the black riders were chanting slogans and comments about Obama and his victory, which while any loud shouting is annoying over a 40min bus ride I can put up with it. Then the slogans started to get progressively scarier and scarier.
The slogans shouted about Obama and his victory became more and more anti-white. I head someone yelling how they'd like to "choke-slam those damn whites". Another black person railed about losing a job because he had dreadlocks. Of course 2 years ago as a caucasian I had to shave my shoulder-length dreads when I went job hunting.
So I was glad to get off the bus on one piece. Nobody replied in opposition to any of the shouted slogans, comments, or threats but all the same I was worried the next step would take place where random white people that were "looking at us funny" were physically beaten and thrown off the bus.
I hope all this cools down soon.
Logic had no part in what transpired on election day so what makes you think its going to apply on these forums.
51% of the electorate voted because of a chip on their shoulder and now because those same people were so short sighted
a proportion of those 51% are going to think they now have cart blanche to say and do what they like.
What price do we have to pay for exposing the real racists it seems.
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Rachel Voegel
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:25:00 -
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If that is true, then you've just experienced what many non-whites have been experiencing from whites for a long time. Also it happens at football matches every weekend (excepts it's the reds vs the blues etc there).
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Isn't it awesome how something so simple can turn people into complete monsters.
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Amarr Citizen 155
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Posted - 2008.11.05 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Voegel
If that is true, then you've just experienced what many non-whites have been experiencing from SOME whites for a long time. Also it happens at football matches every weekend (excepts it's the reds vs the blues etc there).
Fixed that for you. No need to toss all white people into the same pot.
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Rachel Voegel
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Posted - 2008.11.05 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rachel Voegel on 05/11/2008 16:29:05
Why thank you. 
Obvoiusly I didn't mean to imply that ALL whites have behaved like that, but many have, sadly.
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Porgy
Foundation
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:10:00 -
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Race will always be an issue in areas where poverty is rampant and education is sub par. Its human nature to look for something to blame.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/11/2008 17:11:22
Yeah, and today the *** painted their slogans all over my university's "free expression tunnel" (space for anyone who feels like it to paint stuff on the walls). I'm sure it's just the black people who you have to worry about...
edit: damn word filter. *** = racist organization with lots of Ks in their name
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:12:00 -
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I just hope that the next four to eight years whatever "bad" things happen to Obama and or his administration are not race driven. He's an intelligent man, I'm sure he is fully aware that the race card will be in constant play for him. How he breaths, how he acts in front of the other nations, how he dressed, etc, everything is going to be inspected with a fine toothed comb and should he be linked to something big enough, you can bet the question will be raised if it is because of his race (sad, but as they said the other day, "all is fair in politics"). It may not be publicly said but I would not bet against the idea that it would be a ôsilent issueö.
Same goes double for African American citizens in the days before Obama becomes the president. If these reports of palatable tension and so forth are true you can bet somewhere someone is going to say "look what happened when Obama was elected president, do we really want a repeat of that?"
IÆm not saying this to offend anyone but Obama has the potential to keep the door open for the presidency to remain open to all walks of life and race in the US or to slam and nail it shut for the next century. I sincerely hope that people realize that just because he won the election doesnÆt mean its over.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 05/11/2008 17:11:22
Yeah, and today the *** painted their slogans all over my university's "free expression tunnel" (space for anyone who feels like it to paint stuff on the walls). I'm sure it's just the black people who you have to worry about...
edit: damn word filter. *** = racist organization with lots of Ks in their name
While I am not surprised I am equally disturbed at what this could be foreshadowing. Obama is the first non Caucasian male to ascend to the presidency. Up until inauguration day the US has had a, ôtraditionö of what the president was. With things being shaken up I really cant see the various supremacy groups sitting on the side lines for the next four years.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
The Firm.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:38:00 -
[20]
No different to what happens the night the home team wins at the sport the home country likes. The alcohol leaves the bloodstream with time. Next!
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:45:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Isn't it awesome how something so simple can reveal the monsters that we are.
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FOl2TY8
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:48:00 -
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Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes. So chill out honky lips, the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... what a tool ef you and your stupid face
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Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:53:00 -
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I'm sure I'll be flamed to hell and back for this, but....
Electing Obama as our president would be like electing someone who is strongly associated, but not actually apart of, the ***, as the President of Africa (Yes I know Africa is a Continent and not a country).
Has nothing to do with him being black (African-American, for you Politically correct nit-pickers), but his Anti-white and Anti-American associates and the books/papers he's written on it.
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:53:00 -
[24]
Originally by: FOl2TY8
Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. (Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes). So chill out 2.(honky lips), the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... 3.(what a tool ef you and your stupid face)
1. So causing trouble and blaming it all on the white man is the way forward to people not thinking about skin colour. Logic demands an explanation of how this could work.
2. If a white man had same the opposite of what you said there, he would be branded a racist and ridiculed for the rest of his life. So cut back on the racism please
3. Lol wut?
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supr3m3justic3
Caldari
Hakata Group
Blade.
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Posted - 2008.11.05 17:59:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Benilopax
After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
Shut the **** up with ur I love jesus crap.....
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FOl2TY8
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
1. So causing trouble and blaming it all on the white man is the way forward to people not thinking about skin colour. Logic demands an explanation of how this could work.
Logic doesn't demand anything dude. That doesn't even make sense... In response to what a smart person would have said: Black people celebrating is to be expected, anger towards white people is to be expected. The only trouble caused was a little bit of pee to get on the OP's tighty whiteys. Don't worry about it, the anger will die down.
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2. If a white man had same the opposite of what you said there, he would be branded a racist and ridiculed for the rest of his life. So cut back on the racism please
You missed whutididthar didn't you?
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3. Lol wut?
Race riots? Are you kidding me? Some guys yelling on a bus? I am going to invent a time machine and find you and transport you to April 29 1992 in Los Angeles and put your ass on the corner of Normandie and Florence and show you a real race riot. Then I'm going to leave you there while I travel to the 60's and have lots of unprotected sex.
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: kor anon on 05/11/2008 18:21:04
Sorry if this sounds stereotypical but are you high? Cos it seems you havent read op in its entirety, the people on the bus became Anti - white which in my books = racism. + causing such a disturbance is only one step away from violence, OP had a right to feel intimidated
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FOl2TY8
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/11/2008 18:21:04
Sorry if this sounds stereotypical but are you high? Cos it seems you havent read op in its entirety, the people on the bus became Anti - white which in my books = racism. + causing such a disturbance is only one step away from violence, OP had a right to feel intimidated
Your equations don't add up. Anti-white=racism+disturbance=(?)violence. So anit-white equals violence?
Of course they were being racist, only an idiot would disagree with that. The point I am trying to get you to look at is that their are a lot of angry black people in this country and yesterday was a huge step in quelling some of that anger for good. Who knows, maybe we can all get along? Well... not as long as there is the south of course.
Also because you said it I just had to...
Originally by: Maddox
Sorry, but (also known as "No offense, but"): Girls usually say this when they think they're being clever: "sorry, but you're a moron." It's a phrase derived from the expression people use when they're breaking some bad news to an old friend: "I'm sorry to say this, but the results are back and... you're an idiot." The only problem is, they never intend to say it with such eloquence, but rather, they use the phrase like it's a blunt object, hammering their square insult through your round psyche. If you think someone's an idiot, just come out and say it without these ***** apologies you dumb hag. Unless you're a character in a fighting game, have big boobs, and just won the round with a ***** slap, saying "sorry" just before you insult someone is obnoxious, cut the bull****.
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: kor anon on 05/11/2008 18:35:24
 its a fairly obvious typo.
I am a male therefore your quote is null and void
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FOl2TY8
Scorpion's Sting
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/11/2008 18:35:24
its a fairly obvious typo.
I am a male therefore your quote is null and void
You may be a male but you're still a big vagina.
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Originally by: kor anon
Edited by: kor anon on 05/11/2008 18:35:24
its a fairly obvious typo.
I am a male therefore your quote is null and void
You may be a male but you're still a big vagina.
right....
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2008.11.05 18:44:00 -
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It appears to me as an outsider that race is not going to be a non-issue in America for a long time.
Obama is at least taking a constructive stance on the whole thing and making it clear that isn't his stance.
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.05 20:04:00 -
[33]
Originally by: MooKids
It was kind of to be expected either way. Race was a silent issue in this election, luckily Obama did the right thing and not bring it up, running as a candidate who is black, not a black candidate. If McCain had won, I would have expected violence to occur, sadly enough.
Obama brougth race up periodically. Numerous times he would go one to say people would say he had a "funny name" or didn't look like other presidents. He was banking on the racial vote and was counting on racism to push turnout of his base.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2008.11.05 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Hey! Get your damn lungs outta the way, that's MY air!
(Sorry, just human nature kicking in!)
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Ademaro Imre
Caldari
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.11.05 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Race riots? Are you kidding me? Some guys yelling on a bus? I am going to invent a time machine and find you and transport you to April 29 1992 in Los Angeles and put your ass on the corner of Normandie and Florence and show you a real race riot. Then I'm going to leave you there while I travel to the 60's and have lots of unprotected sex.
The black community did not set their alarm clocks or text each other to start rioting. It has to start somewhere.
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Irish Whiskey
Caldari
Warped Mining
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Posted - 2008.11.05 21:49:00 -
[36]
Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Originally by: Benilopax
bla bla hippie propaganda bla bla
Shut the **** up with ur I love jesus crap.....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.06 00:01:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Rachel Voegel
If that is true, then you've just experienced what many non-whites have been experiencing from whites for a long time. Also it happens at football matches every weekend (excepts it's the reds vs the blues etc there).
Raceist ******* much?
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.06 00:04:00 -
[38]
Originally by: FOl2TY8
Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes. So chill out honky lips, the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... what a tool ef you and your stupid face
Looked in a mirror much and saw the racist look back at you?
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ALLIED TACTICAL TECHNOLOGIES
Collective Asylum
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Posted - 2008.11.06 01:16:00 -
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I see no issue with refusing a job because of dreads.
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.06 01:29:00 -
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Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Originally by: Benilopax
After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
Shut the **** up with ur I love jesus crap.....
I am a aetheist, I don't believe in Jesus or at least that he was the son of God. My spirituality is through the six billion humans on this planet and that every last one of them deserves the right to life, freedom and food.
But then I bet your just a selfish middle class idiot who thinks the rest of mankind can go hang as long as you have an SUV in your driveway and a bucket of fried chicken every night.
Gah all my pent up negative energy has exploded after the election.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2008.11.06 02:06:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 06/11/2008 02:07:22
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: supr3m3justic3
Shut the **** up with ur I love jesus crap.....
I am a aetheist, I don't believe in Jesus or at least that he was the son of God. My spirituality is through the six billion humans on this planet and that every last one of them deserves the right to life, freedom and food.
But then I bet your just a selfish middle class idiot who thinks the rest of mankind can go hang as long as you have an SUV in your driveway and a bucket of fried chicken every night.
Gah all my pent up negative energy has exploded after the election.
This. Way to give the rest of us a bad name. Because you know, it isn't hard enough to convince people that there is more to my atheism than "i hate god, u r idiots" trolling.
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Retromash
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.06 02:18:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Benilopax
I am a aetheist, I don't believe in Jesus or at least that he was the son of God. My spirituality is through the six billion humans on this planet and that every last one of them deserves the right to life, freedom and food.
It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
As for the right to life? Not a right. You must fight for life, starting with your first breathe out of the womb, all the way through to your last. It can always be revoked by nature at any moment, and you have no 'right' to argue about it. What right to life has the man swimming alone in the middle of the ocean? None, and some may think him stupid for getting into the predicament.
Freedom is also not a right. You must fight for it, and often pay for it in blood, or it will always be taken from you. Many give it up freely without knowing they do so.
Food. Mmmm. Gotta love food. I'd hate to argue that someone doesn't have a right to food. But if there isn't enough to go around, someones gonna starve. The logistics of delivery, distribution, and people who pilfer and stockpile along the way. If you're starving, it's time to fight for the food, even if you have to spill some blood along the way. That's freedom, isn't it?
Just my 2 cents.
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.06 02:32:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Retromash
Originally by: Benilopax
I am a aetheist, I don't believe in Jesus or at least that he was the son of God. My spirituality is through the six billion humans on this planet and that every last one of them deserves the right to life, freedom and food.
It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
As for the right to life? Not a right. You must fight for life, starting with your first breathe out of the womb, all the way through to your last. It can always be revoked by nature at any moment, and you have no 'right' to argue about it. What right to life has the man swimming alone in the middle of the ocean? None, and some may think him stupid for getting into the predicament.
Freedom is also not a right. You must fight for it, and often pay for it in blood, or it will always be taken from you. Many give it up freely without knowing they do so.
Food. Mmmm. Gotta love food. I'd hate to argue that someone doesn't have a right to food. But if there isn't enough to go around, someones gonna starve. The logistics of delivery, distribution, and people who pilfer and stockpile along the way. If you're starving, it's time to fight for the food, even if you have to spill some blood along the way. That's freedom, isn't it?
Just my 2 cents.
Vote republican much?
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Retromash
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.11.06 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
Vote republican much?
I vary across the board. I went about 75%R, 20%D, and a Greenie or two. All the R's won except one, the rest lost, go figure.
And yes, you do know which R lost.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Retromash
Originally by: Benilopax
Vote republican much?
I vary across the board. I went about 75%R, 20%D, and a Greenie or two. All the R's won except one, the rest lost, go figure.
And yes, you do know which R lost.
Rosie?
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 03:30:00 -
[46]
Your damn lucky I wasnt on that bus because I would probably be stupid enough to open my big mouth and then it would be on.
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Kalahari Wayrest
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.11.06 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 06/11/2008 16:49:20
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It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
Not that I know for sure, but I interpreted what he said as, rather than saying he had spirituality, saying his equivalent to spirituality is the ideology of brotherhood along with the right to life, freedom and food - just as yours would be the idea that all of the above need to be fought for in order to be obtained and are not entitled to by default 
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rValdez5987
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Benilopax
After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
I'd hate to break it to you bud, but the door swings both ways, and this will never, ever, be a perfect world.
Then humans do not deserve to survive for the next thousand years.
If humanity is too stupid to evolve past petty matters of sex, race, religion, or creed, then humans do not deserve to live at all as their intelligence will never improve.
Sure im human too, but atleast I'm not a ****** like the majority of our planets population.
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kor anon
Amarr
Corporeal utopia for nasty tramps
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:25:00 -
[49]
Originally by: rValdez5987
Originally by: Micheal Dietrich
Originally by: Benilopax
After slavery, segregation, the murder of Doctor king, racism, and mistrust from the white man; a little steam will obviously need to be let off.
By posting here that black people are violent and want to crush the white man your not helping. Embrace your fellow human beings for the love of God.
Bobby Kennedy said (before he himself was slain)"We are all of this same world, we breath the same air."
Perhaps, just perhaps, it is time to move on and try to live together?
I'd hate to break it to you bud, but the door swings both ways, and this will never, ever, be a perfect world.
Then humans do not deserve to survive for the next thousand years.
If humanity is too stupid to evolve past petty matters of sex, race, religion, or creed, then humans do not deserve to live at all as their intelligence will never improve.
Sure im human too, but atleast I'm not a ****** like the majority of our planets population.
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Deserve? thats a matter of opinion, our very existance makes us worthy as despite ourselves we are still around.
We are all vicious barbarians under the skin, and the sooner we accept that we are, the sooner we can improve ourselves. Our arrogance is monumental though, because despite the fact we still ****, murder, declare war on each other for no other reason than the fun of it; people think that they are are 'enlightened' and civilised, and this hypocracy makes me sick.
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Benilopax
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.11.06 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 06/11/2008 16:49:20
Quote:
It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
Not that I know for sure, but I interpreted what he said as, rather than saying he had spirituality, saying his equivalent to spirituality is the ideology of brotherhood along with the right to life, freedom and food - just as yours would be the idea that all of the above need to be fought for in order to be obtained and are not entitled to by default
Thank you, yes exactly.
All I am saying is, maybe when America elected Obama we made a step in the right direction. I'm not saying the world is fixed, far from it, but the world turned for the better after turning for the worse in recent years. He himself said there will be setbacks and false starts. However, we should use this moment to inspire ourselves and those around us that maybe we can make it as a species dispite our darkest fears.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.06 18:48:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 06/11/2008 16:49:20
Quote:
It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
Not that I know for sure, but I interpreted what he said as, rather than saying he had spirituality, saying his equivalent to spirituality is the ideology of brotherhood along with the right to life, freedom and food - just as yours would be the idea that all of the above need to be fought for in order to be obtained and are not entitled to by default
Indeed, many people today are starting to believe that if something is a right its granted, and given.
Just because something is a freedom doesnt mean your entitled to have it for free, that just means the government wont stop you from getting it aslong as you follow some basic laws.
The only freedom granted by nature is the persuit of happiness, the rest you have to EARN
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2008.11.07 01:23:00 -
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Was the near-riot on Fox? Or else it didn't almost happen.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Posted - 2008.11.07 03:17:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 07/11/2008 03:19:46
Originally by: FOl2TY8
Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes. So chill out honky lips, the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... what a tool ef you and your stupid face
The biggest perpetrator of racism are those that scream racism the most.
I have observed more racism from those that claim they are being a victim of racism than actual racism itself. I hate to say it but I've personally seen incidents started by black people claiming "racism" simply because they can't or didn't get their way.
I'd like to point out that no one alive today has ever been a slave in the United States. Yes, it was a terrible thing that happened, but its over. Its been over for over 100 years. Unless you have actually been a slave yourself, STFU. I don't wanna hear about it. If ANY race in our country has a right to ***** it would be the Native Americans, but they don't because they're not looking for a hand out.
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.07 03:39:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 07/11/2008 03:19:46
Originally by: FOl2TY8
Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes. So chill out honky lips, the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... what a tool ef you and your stupid face
The biggest perpetrator of racism are those that scream racism the most.
I have observed more racism from those that claim they are being a victim of racism than actual racism itself. I hate to say it but I've personally seen incidents started by black people claiming "racism" simply because they can't or didn't get their way.
I'd like to point out that no one alive today has ever been a slave in the United States. Yes, it was a terrible thing that happened, but its over. Its been over for over 100 years. Unless you have actually been a slave yourself, STFU. I don't wanna hear about it. If ANY race in our country has a right to ***** it would be the Native Americans, but they don't because they're not looking for a hand out.
Oh hell yeah, knew one guy once that assumed he was disliked just because he was from bangadesh...had noing to do with the fact he was a total arse with a chip on his shoulder...
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Posted - 2008.11.07 07:00:00 -
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In be4 the thread lock cuz u know its gunna happen
Race + Polictics = thread lock
FFS Leave racism back in the 1800-1960's damnit it's gonna be 2009 soon and this petty **** is still goin on ffs. The only people we can blame is ourselves and the Media let the ****ing past be the ****ing past the US has a black prez now hooptydamndoo hopefully he will turn the US around.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rachel Voegel on 10/11/2008 13:34:50
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Retromash
... Freedom is also not a right ...
Vote republican much?
Isn't what he said against the US declaration of independence?
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Rachel Voegel
If that is true, then you've just experienced what many non-whites have been experiencing from whites for a long time. Also it happens at football matches every weekend (excepts it's the reds vs the blues etc there).
Raceist ******* much?
Actually I am extremely anti-racist and anti-nationalist.
What on earth makes you think I'm racist, or are you just trolling?
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Malcanis
RuffRyders
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.10 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain
After the discussion on the forums last night about Obama and dealing with some of the posters who would just call me names and not actually address my points with logic or evidence I decided I was done talking politics until the next Presidential election. I'm not much a political person.
But then there was the morning I just had. Just got to work after one of the scariest bus rides I've had. I ride a bus to work every day. Better for the enviroment than taking a car and cheaper for me. At least half the regular bus riders are black. I hadn't even noticed this until today.
Today when I got on the bus all the black riders were chanting slogans and comments about Obama and his victory, which while any loud shouting is annoying over a 40min bus ride I can put up with it. Then the slogans started to get progressively scarier and scarier.
The slogans shouted about Obama and his victory became more and more anti-white. I head someone yelling how they'd like to "choke-slam those damn whites". Another black person railed about losing a job because he had dreadlocks. Of course 2 years ago as a caucasian I had to shave my shoulder-length dreads when I went job hunting.
So I was glad to get off the bus on one piece. Nobody replied in opposition to any of the shouted slogans, comments, or threats but all the same I was worried the next step would take place where random white people that were "looking at us funny" were physically beaten and thrown off the bus.
I hope all this cools down soon.
So by "race riot", what you mean is some idiots got a bit loud on a bus, but did not actually offer you or anyone else any violence whatsoever?
By that standard there's a "riot" on most of the buses in this country after school every day.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 14:04:00 -
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Hmz. I wonder what sort of effect something like this would have here in Holland.
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Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2008.11.10 15:48:00 -
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Prior to this election I had watched an Oprah show where she talked about how blacks talk about race.
She said (my summary here) when talking about white people (without wanting to say white) blacks will point to their palms. When talking about non-whites they will point to the back of their palms.
Well, now that Obama is president-elect I now have an Oprah-like method of referring to blacks/African-Americans/etc! I can now say "That Obama ..." and I don't have to worry about if I'm being PC. If it is ok for Obamas to refer to whites generically then I feel it ok to use a generic method of reference.
So, I'm sorry those Obamas were making you afraid and they were being aggro. But, expect more of that as they find their new place in society and history.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.10 18:34:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kravick Drasari
Edited by: Kravick Drasari on 07/11/2008 03:19:46
Originally by: FOl2TY8
Sensitive much OP? You must be some kind of wimpy neckbeard if a bunch of black people celebrating on a bus qualifies as "the scariest bus ride ever". In comparison the scariest road trip I ever took was when I took my then girlfriend, who is black, through Texas.
Blacks have a reason to be so "anti-white". Hell, I haven't had a single white friend since grade school. Racism is in our blood and last night was a huge step in the right direction. The right direction being eliminating separation of people based on physical attributes. So chill out honky lips, the big bad black man isn't going to hurt you. Of course that doesn't mean you still shouldn't cross the street if you see him coming towards you.
"race riots"... what a tool ef you and your stupid face
The biggest perpetrator of racism are those that scream racism the most.
I have observed more racism from those that claim they are being a victim of racism than actual racism itself. I hate to say it but I've personally seen incidents started by black people claiming "racism" simply because they can't or didn't get their way.
I'd like to point out that no one alive today has ever been a slave in the United States. Yes, it was a terrible thing that happened, but its over. Its been over for over 100 years. Unless you have actually been a slave yourself, STFU. I don't wanna hear about it. If ANY race in our country has a right to ***** it would be the Native Americans, but they don't because they're not looking for a hand out.
Agreed, I am part native american AND jewish, in this if anybody had a reason to ***** about bigotry and slavery and genocide etc, it would be me.
But I dont, because unlike some I do realise that then was then and now is now and blaming somebody for what his/her ancestors did is just simply idiotic, and expecting a handout for that reason is even more idiotic.
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.11 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: nahtoh on 11/11/2008 00:15:42
Originally by: Rachel Voegel
Edited by: Rachel Voegel on 10/11/2008 13:34:50
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Retromash
... Freedom is also not a right ...
Vote republican much?
Isn't what he said against the US declaration of independence?
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: Rachel Voegel
If that is true, then you've just experienced what many non-whites have been experiencing from whites for a long time. Also it happens at football matches every weekend (excepts it's the reds vs the blues etc there).
Raceist ******* much?
Actually I am extremely anti-racist and anti-nationalist.
What on earth makes you think I'm racist, or are you just trolling?
You really need to ask? If a white person said something that wide ranging about a non white person what would it be called? Hmmm can you guess the answer? |
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Posted - 2008.11.11 00:31:00 -
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Gotta love the human race... All its foibles... All its pettiness... All its pathetic attempts to divide and subsume... I supported Obama because he is progressive, he is reaching out and trying to unite, rather than trying to split and scaremonger (Different/New/Original = Bad, amirite? ).
Colour of skin (Like religion, another pointless them/us categorization, given that the overall message is essentially the same) is meaningless to nearly everyone I know, and of those to whom it means something, most are overly sensitive and perceive racism where there is none, and the others were brought up in a less multicultural environment leaving them far more open to the Different = Bad/Inferior mindset.
The OP experienced racist (though not directed at them personally) comments Quote:
"choke-slam those damn whites"
and so is entitled to feel ill at ease.
Obama may suffer because he will be taken up and used as a figurehead for causes not his own, by people who identify with him because of the colour of his skin, and seek to use him to champion their cause without him making any gesture of support, we will see.
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Olleybear
PoliCratton Technologies
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Posted - 2008.11.11 00:44:00 -
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Racisim never has been, and never will be, about race. Its about control. That bears repeating.
Its all about control.
When whites were killing blacks back in 1st half of the 20th century, it was to keep control over not only the blacks, but control over the whites who let themselves be controlled by hatred and angry.
That has not changed today. There are posts in this very thread that rely on making someone angry over race in order to breed more anger and hatred. This is a cycle, that repeated enough times, actually works in keeping people apart. Which keeps them from working together. And keeping people from working together is the real goal.
You can control the masses of people if they can not work together for their own good and are too preoccupied with bickering amongst themseleves to work for change that would benefit everyone.
Racism is simply one way for those at the top, those that are already in power, to keep that power and keep you and me under their control.
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Posted - 2008.11.11 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
Edited by: Kalahari Wayrest on 06/11/2008 16:49:20
Quote:
It's spelled atheist. And if you have spirituality, you're probably an agnostic.
Not that I know for sure, but I interpreted what he said as, rather than saying he had spirituality, saying his equivalent to spirituality is the ideology of brotherhood along with the right to life, freedom and food - just as yours would be the idea that all of the above need to be fought for in order to be obtained and are not entitled to by default
Thank you, yes exactly.
All I am saying is, maybe when America elected Obama we made a step in the right direction. I'm not saying the world is fixed, far from it, but the world turned for the better after turning for the worse in recent years. He himself said there will be setbacks and false starts. However, we should use this moment to inspire ourselves and those around us that maybe we can make it as a species dispite our darkest fears.
Im sorry but I really need to comment on this. Obama is President Elect. He is not President yet. The man is not president yet and talking like he has and that hes already accomplished great things is wrong, pure and simple. Saying things like this is setting the man up on a pedistal to the point that the only way he can go is down. For all we know he could be the worst of the worst president this country has ever seen.
Assuming he will be americas answer to everything is the biggest mistake this nation can make as the moment something goes against his plan the **** is going to hit the fan. Mark the accomplishment AS he makes them, NOT before. Currently he only has 1 accomplishment under his belt, he wont the popular vote.
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goodby4u
Valor Inc.
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Posted - 2008.11.11 02:01:00 -
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Originally by: uzumoreru
Gotta love the human race... All its foibles... All its pettiness... All its pathetic attempts to divide and subsume... I supported Obama because he is progressive, he is reaching out and trying to unite, rather than trying to split and scaremonger (Different/New/Original = Bad, amirite? ).
Colour of skin (Like religion, another pointless them/us categorization, given that the overall message is essentially the same) is meaningless to nearly everyone I know, and of those to whom it means something, most are overly sensitive and perceive racism where there is none, and the others were brought up in a less multicultural environment leaving them far more open to the Different = Bad/Inferior mindset.
The OP experienced racist (though not directed at them personally) comments Quote:
"choke-slam those damn whites"
and so is entitled to feel ill at ease.
Obama may suffer because he will be taken up and used as a figurehead for causes not his own, by people who identify with him because of the colour of his skin, and seek to use him to champion their cause without him making any gesture of support, we will see.
Atrocity is always easiest if committed in the name of another.
Racism isnt the only reason somebody would vote against obama(this isnt your point but I want to ensure that people know this).
I didnt vote for obama because I disagree with the redistribution of wealth, aswell as just about 90% of his total stances.
And to be completely and fully honest, I dont give a flying fudge if your black brown red or rainbow, I care about where somebody stands and how he has acted in the past.
Oh and also I do agree that its about control, but I hate racism, from the white and black side, I hate the act of it completely and fully, but what happened in the past stays in the past and just because person A's ancestor was enslaved by person B's ancestor, doesnt give person A the right to treat person B like crap. |
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Posted - 2008.11.18 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: Rachel Voegel on 18/11/2008 12:17:11
Originally by: nahtoh
You really need to ask? If a white person said something that wide ranging about a non white person what would it be called? Hmmm can you guess the answer?
What was wide ranging? That certain non-whites have been attacked by certain whites? Are you denying that? Also that other groups have attacked yet other groups (as I pointed out initially via the football example)?
Oh and FYI - I'm what most people call white. 
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nahtoh
Caldari
StrikerCorp
Dark Trinity Alliance
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Posted - 2008.11.18 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Rachel Voegel
Edited by: Rachel Voegel on 18/11/2008 12:17:11
Originally by: nahtoh
You really need to ask? If a white person said something that wide ranging about a non white person what would it be called? Hmmm can you guess the answer?
What was wide ranging? That certain non-whites have been attacked by certain whites? Are you denying that? Also that other groups have attacked yet other groups (as I pointed out initially via the football example)?
Oh and FYI - I'm what most people call white.
Are you actualy as stupid as you are coming across here? Read your own comment...heres a hint you will see no limiter than "whites".
Personaly I hate racists...but I also hate the aplogista just as much, which you seem to be a prime member of.
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Posted - 2008.11.18 14:46:00 -
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Before calling other people stupid, perhaps you should check my post #15 where that was resolved very quickly. |
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